 Helo! Welcoma wedi'i ei wneud i chi, mae fi genni dw i'n wneud i gyd-dwynyniadol yn falch ac gyda siaradau ar gyfer Essarys, yn Ysgrifetarysau Bwysce pan ni'n ddatblygu. Mae hwyl i'r newydd, mae'r Lod yn ychydig, mae hynodd yn ychydig, mae'n weithio. Mae gennym 10 unrhyw. Mae hwyl yn gwybodol gyda Glou sydd gysylltu gyd-dwynyniadol. o'r cwyliau na gwahanol, i'w beth. Arhaf. Y lluniauYmllunio eleor ein bod. Ychydig yn gallu lle. Mae'n gwneud gymnaeth y次b yn golygu at dyfohon o'n gweithio ymlaen i blynyddoedd? Mae'r pwysig yw'n gweithio. Mae'n your i bwysig o'ch fawr am y ddyn nhw. Mae'n mynd i fod yn gweithio'n ddysg. Mae'n mynd i gyd wedi'u bod yn gweithio. Mae e'n mynd i gyd wedi gynnal spaeth, mae gyd wedi gynnal spaeth yn gwneud. Rwy'n gwybod, o ran oedd yn oed yn rhan gwybod, ond mae'r rhai oedd ymlaen nhw'n amser yma. Mae'r amser yn ystod yn yrhaid o gyfliadau hefyd yn yma. Rwy'n gwybod, oed yn yr unrhyw o'r amser sydd yn yma, oed yn ymlaen nhw. Rwy'n gwybod, oed yn ymlaen. Bydd yn cerdd. Rydyn ni'n ymwneud yn ymddangos. Yn hyn, mae'n gweithio. Mae'n gweithio, mae'n gweithio, mae'n gwneud, mae'n ynnwyntio. Erm… Did it feel like you were, you know, you were going in the jungle or something or, a big brother housing you couldn't say a word to people and was it sneaky you're turning up a Finch farm and you camouflage yourself to recognise me. Yeah. Army rolling in the door and all that, yeah. Do you know the food was nicer? I didn't have any dodgy like Critters. No. That's good. Food was delicious, I have to say. Yeah, brilliant. Um, yeah it was an odd experience cos a few people knew, ...Right now, I'm just kind of a bit excited for this but I disappeared off Radio Merseyside and all sorts of things and I think a lot of people thought I left so there was sort of that going on and yet, it is the hardest thing is I still went to press conferences for BBC Radio Merseyside. So sometimes, I would be thinking right, I know that. Is that out there yet, no it's not, I'd have to keep my mouth shut about things or be in on air still and think, well I can't say that because I'm sat on that and no one knows about that so that's what's happened. Byddwn i'n meddwl eich bod yw eu hunain. Rwy'n edrych yn ei ffordd i walzio'n rhanowyd na ddim yn gallu'n gwybod, wedi bod yn y ddweud dwi'n meddwl, i chi'n fuy deinsiwr,aint dwi'n meddwl ond yr cystafell yna, fe wedi ffordd mwyn yn dweud o'r cyfyngu i ni dros yng Nghymru. Rwy'n daith rydyn ni'n meddwl i'w meddwl, byddwn yn ymddans i'r lleif wedi gweld yr Ffranc Llanpard yn ddiwedd yn y maen nhw'n ddweud, Wrath o dypen your appropriately, you know how he was working with the players and then very quickly you know after the world cup break You know you don't need to tell you happen, It's changed and then you have no idea where the story line taking you what to run. Cus obviusly würw treat digon wneud, how did this come about them because of you said you weren't in November so how did this all come about? The BBC in Everton were in a conversation and an access agreement was drawn up winner a rough between the two and I was the person that was dropped into Finch farm. Helicopter all! Helicopter ddod! When they jump off, you know, on there in Angeslayne. I parachuted in landing on the first team bench. Yes so I was put in there and had a little desk in there, was allowed to have my food in there, was very much part of it and then yes I had to work alongside the club work alongside, made the first team, the women's team, the ...onw i'n ddysgu eich cynnig? Rwy'n ei ddweud am ymhellwch? Dydy ni chi eich cyfarwydd? Diolch, dydynt. Rwy'n ddysgu米 a chael. Dyna mae'n dweud yn dangos, dwi'n iawn, cymdeithas y dyma yn ei isu, ond mae'n ddau chi'n gwneud... ... honestly arall, a mae'n amlwys i chi'n ymhentau am y club honno, dwi'n rydw i'n gwybodaeth i chi ddech chi. A yw'r amlwys i chi fyddfa, Iwn gŵr i'ch cymryd yn ddechrau. A whast iddyn nhw gwaith ddweud ei wneud dylech chi'n gweithio y gallwn byddwyr i'ch gwasanaethd. Rydym yn gweithio'n gweithio neu'n gweithio speisio naill yn gallu'n mythio. Ond mae wedi ddweud maen nhw'n cael ei wneud i'w cyhoedd. Ond yn myth i bob ddifer. Mae wedi gwneud mwy ar wing, inni eiddo. Rwyf yn gyf Barbie. Llywsodd diwrnod hwnna? Rwyf yn gweithio a oedden nhw yn glen ynglyn â i gyroedd. Hynny ddim yn hynny'n gyinkaeth. Dwi'n cwrwch barth gwrdd, a ddim yn gwybod yn gwybod o gyrdd dwydy bryd. Ie, ac yn gwybod yn gwybod. Holden, efallai rydym ni'n ddim yn amddangos ar hwnna'r fawr, aherein i ddim yn siŵr am hynny'n fawr. Yr enywydd yn ymwybod, a mawr i gwybod. Mae hwn yn bobl reliable o'r gwaith o gael Ffarae, ac mae'n ddefnyddio'r Llanfaleu Manfaith i DC. Felly mae'n ad hyd yn dwi'n du. Ie digon, it was a head of the league game at the weekend. But there was still a feeling, and I don't know whether you thought it. Well, you did say this, I think, on the show that at that time. Yeah, we did a little bit of a sticky path, we just lost our own to Leicester, and then we're heavily beaten at Bormith, and it was an awful performance at Bormith. But he was still very up beat about what he wanted to do. He was aware of the game at the weekend, then there was the break for the well cup, ac ymddai'n ffocws yn tych yn y ddechrau yn gweithio ar y cwmwysgai sefydlach yn y Tannig. Mae'n ddod i'n ddweud i'r ddweud i'r gweithio ar y cwmwysgai yn y ddechrau. Ac mae'n cyd-dreifio ddych i'n gweithio ar y gwrs a'r cyd-dreifio. Mae'n ddod i'n ddod i ddod i'r gweithio ar y cyd-dreifio. Gwymddo ddatblygu'n teimlad arall, mae'n ddod i'n ddod i'n ddod i'r gwaith i'r gwaith. On i o'n amlwg, mae'n bwysig o'r cwestiynau ac ydydai'n bwysig o'n bwysig o bwysig, byddai'n cael'u cael ei fwy fwy oedd gwaith? Mae'n fwy o'r fwy o'r bwysig o'r bwysig o'r bwysig o'r bwysig i'r newidau i chi oedd ymddangos i'r llei. Yn oes, wedi bod ymlaen, mae'r ymddangos i fwy o gwaith. Mae'n gwybod i'r gwaith i'r ffordd o meddwl o'r ffordd o'r ffordd, phamffio a'r yr ydych chi o'n door iawnol ac nid oed ddim. Rwy'n dechrau iawn i'w growl amgylcheddol am dda iawn i wneud yn unig. Rydyn ni'n gweithio'r ddweud yn ei fantastic o'u cerddo'i, ac nid oed yn ymmiwr, unrhyw pan roedd fy nesaf y bos dawn iawn i'n amser rôl. Mae'n amser o'r sgwpl yn y dyma ganogi, ond yma yn gweithio. Hynny. Rwy'n cwrwch ein podi. Rwy'n cwrwch. Dysgrifio nhw wedi bod cwrwch drwy o drafnod. Nid ychydig o'r cyffredin wedi bod y peishchir yw'r cyfrif sy'n dod yn amlun. Gynnyddwch gyda a'r wych yn ein bod yn amlwg sy'n mynd i'r gyfer eu cymryd yma. Nid yw'n gwneud ar y cyfrolyniadau ar y cyfrolyniadau? Dyma'r cyfrolyniadau? A'i fod yn ddweud ydych chi'n gweithio'r cyfrolyniadau? Mae'r gweithio'r cyfrolyniadau? Mae'r gweithio'n gwneud yn y ffwrdd. Mae'n gwneud yn y ffordd. Mae'r gweithio'n gweithio'n gweithio'n gwneud, maen nhw'n gwneud yn y bwls ar hynny i ddwy'r gweithio. ond ond, byddw i'n fwy o'r ffrindi, ac maen nhw'n dweud i'r ffyrdd. Rhywbeth y byddai yn gweithio, ond ond yn ei wneud am ffyrdd. Felly yw'r ffyrdd yn dweud i'r ffrindi gyda Llywodraeth. Mae'r ddweud i'n ddweud i'r ffrindi gyda llunio, a'n ddweud i'n ddweud i'n ddweud i'n ddweud i'n ddweud i'r ffrindi. Felly mae'n ddweud i'n ddweud i'n ddweud i'r ffrindi, Ydych i chi jor yn ni? Yna y ceisio, mae'n fath o'r paedlaeth yn gandd! Efallai efallai y gallwn bod yn y rai. Rym ni'n meddwl yma, a oedd efallai ei gyddon o ran yn yr argynedd. Felly ydych chi fynd i'r ffaith sydd yn loed? Felly mae'n nu'n cyhoeddwyd gan yr ymddangos i'w halu sydd ynw, efallai efallai ffrilliant, efallai efallai rwyaf ni'n rhoi byd i diwyll iawn! Yn oedd y tro! Mae'n meddwl, a'i cynno! Efallai yn gwneud hynny, Ie dyn ni'n tynnu'n gwasanaethau oherwydd mae'n rhoi fydd yn Manosbyddio. Yn ddoch chi, ac yw'n ddag i ddod i fewnio'n ddysgu'r bobl. Yn ymdud i'ch ziwch chi'n gallu ei wneud o'r ysgwrdd hynny. On wna'n meddwl i'w wneud ar gyfer cyflugwyd. A'r swydd yw ddechrau'n siwys yn y sefyllfa mewn ni, at rwy'n tym gyda chi hwnna sydd gwybod nhw a dweud o beth sy'n mynd i ymddynt. a fyddwch ar gweithio'r llyfr yn gyfnod. Rydyn ni'n fawr o'r gweithio'r llyfr yn gweithio'r llyfr yn gyfer gynhyrch ymweld, ac mae'n rhan o'n dweud y dyfodol o'r cyfnod ar y cyfnod, ac mae'r cwmgeithio'r cwmwysau yn ei wneud yn dangos o'r 90 munud. Yn gweithio'r gweithio, mae'n gwybod, mae'n cwmiliadau o hynny'n fyddi'r brif. Mae'n gweithio'n cwmiliadau oherwydd o'r wneud, How much you've got in your bank account at that stage. That's completely different. And yeah, he looked shattered. He looked absolutely exhausted. And it wasn't for the want of trying. I was there quite long days. He used to be there well before me. I think he arrived at seven in the morning. I used to leave sometimes about sixish. He'd still be there. He was putting the hours in him and his staff. But just sometimes you just you know what it's like with football it spins that fast out of control that you can't do anything. a'r rhaid i yn symud i ei wneud, rhaid i bywach i'r cas am gyfnwys, rhaid eu bywach i'r cyswp dechrau i mewn gwybod, oedd sydd ei wneud i gyngor i ddeswar sy'r gwahanol. Mae'n fyddiaeth fyddiaeth ei wneud i'w waith i chi hoffi i chi. At y dwg, rhaid i fewn i weithio i'r lleoli a rhaid i fewn i'w zeith. Mae rhaid i fewn i bethau sydd eich chofeau un i'r bwysig o'r swydd. Roeddwn ni'n gwybodaeth i agor, felly o'n mynd arwain. menysu'n gwybod i wneud erdoedd. Felly mae'n gwybod i gael y merrodd pan hynny. Mae'n mynd datblygu'n mynd i gweithio chi. Ond mae'n gweithio allan o gwbl yma. Mae yw'r yr hyn yn adliadol. Mae angen i arno i'n trwy'n mynd ac i ddweud yr hynny. Felly mae'n gweld i oedd feidio chi. Felly yw'n gweld ei fod yn gwiaid o'r peth, ac gymuned yna? Felly mae i fod yn dwi ddiwedd yn gwybod. Mae'n gweithio'n gweld i elio, mae'r byd yn gweithio peth. Mae llawer o'r holl kim o'r rai arniwg Lloydovers, a mae hwyl hwyl y gallwch i gallu alech yn holl iawn. Mae hi ddim... Ond ei ddim ymddych chi'n gwellio. Cymru ceisio! Nid ystod i gael!owerwch ti'n gwellio! Felly, mae'n cwmwan o'r fawr i ni, mae hi ddim gael! Am gennym, mae hwyl tyfu, nad yw hi'n fawr iawn am i'n llifeiswch arniwch. Mae hwyl e. Mae hwyl e. Mawr e. Felly, mae fel me'n gweithio. Mae'n holl i'n ei wneud o'r tannu, oherwydd mae'n holl i ddweud cwrdd, mae'n holl i'n holl i ddweud'r holl i ddweud cwrdd a hwnnw. Mae'n holl i ddweud yw'r holl i ddweud o'r holl i ddweud. Mae nesaf, nesaf o'r collu i'r holl i gael 33 ym 13 mewn 10 ym 13. 40-33 mewn holl i'r holl i'r holl i'r holl i ddweud, mae'n holl i ddweud fel rhai. Rwy'n ei gael i'n gweithio'r hynny, ychydig di'n ddod ychu, a mae hwnhag yn gwrs, flynyddu chi ei nhw'n ddefnyddio'n ddod yma eich bwylltion. Felly, mae wedi dwi'n gofyniaid, mae gydwch chi'n gofyniaid. Ac mae Gwyl Tate ac Leiton Bain wedi gementadd ei gwaith, mae gen i g weld gofyniaid eu cyfrannu. Felly, mae gydwch chi'n gynnig y teimlo eich barhau. Echydig yw gydwch gynnig eich gweld y teimlo eich gynnig. A mae oedd y tîm yn y teimlo yna ar ddennod, ac mae gen i gyfodd y cymhwyこと. mae'n defnyddio byd薙on ac yn fwy gyfan gwaith, yn y pethau a bryd, ac mae'r ddweud o'r gwrthodd ac yn y gwrthodd. A'r defnyddio byd sefydlu eich bod, y mae'n ofi'r ysgwr. A'n gyfeinyr Ysgrifennu, ac yn hyn, mae'n defnyddio byd sefydlu ar roi, dwi'n gweithwyr, yn ffaith i'r ddau a'r dwrsio, ond mae'n chwiadw, ond mae'n siart iawn, ymchwil yn yn amlwi'n phobl. A'n gwybod I'n gamau, Sean Dice's office, there's just a desk and a couple of chairs, empty shelves, and I do ask him about that in the series and he's very funny about that but yeah it's so yeah. Is he not planning on stuff when there's that many managers are being through it? He just doesn't like things of his own, he explains that in the series because at home he doesn't have a lot of things of his own stuff, he has all things for his family but yeah. Not at all, not at all. But I did feel a bit like it was the headmaster's office. He does come across a bit like. I went in there a couple of times and the first time I did a tattooing, I'm going to get told off. Yeah, yeah. I didn't get told off. He strikes me as someone who could tell you off. So obviously you go in there and the plan is to chart Frank Lampard rebuild. Hopefully it was going to end happily and it didn't. I mean what was that like being in there when that inevitable moment comes where Frank Lampard is sacked and then there's a period. And you just said, you just referenced having your light and veins and Paul Tate taking training. Was it just, was it like the map? Was it like a, say the Marysha less but people but in there but was it like a real somber feeling of the manager going and you're just waiting for another appointment? It happens quickly as well. I didn't see Frank Lampard, I've never seen Frank again. I've never seen him again. So yeah it happens very speedily, everything changes and then there's big TVs up around Fitch Farm because they're like the rest of us, the TVs are on, you know, watching what's going on. And yeah, there's surreal points where you're watching players, watching the TV, looking who their new manager might be. And that's a surreal. You've got people phoning up, auditioning for the manager's job at that stage in the middle of Vita Pereira. Yeah, exactly. So yeah they didn't, you know, all they can do is come to work, train. There was no game because the FA Cup campaign was already over so it felt like it felt a really odd week that week. No game to prepare for, no manager. So no media was in there but I was in there and you know speaking to people and making sure I kind of got there. Cos I think if you asked people now what was it like in that week? You get a different perspective but if you ask them at that point they give you a really honest assessment of how they're feeling right now and in the series you hear from Seamus and yeah you hear how he's feeling it and he says he's taking his child out and somebody came up to him in the park really nicely. Like he said there was no issue but he sees how much it means to people and he's sort of thinking already had this the previous season, it's happening again, how do we stop it, how do we work on it. Yeah Paul Tates in there, Leighton Baines who I don't think ever imagined he'd be taking first team training but he was and he did a good job. He took part for a bit as well, he had a bib on and took part so like he could do a job. So yeah but it was a very surreal week that you're behind the other side of Finchfarn where no one else is and then that you look at the TV and the TV cameras are outside Finchfarn and I felt very much part of the team then and we're just all watching the telly seeing what's being said about the club and you're in it and it's a very surreal situation that I don't think I've ever been in before. From a reporter and producer's point of view for this, can you now look at that and say it's not a good thing because obviously we want a Frank Lampard to succ even, we've said he's a nice man and everything else but for the series did that kind of give it, I don't want to say make it better but did it give it a different flavour, I never envisaged a situation where the manager would change, I thought I'd go all the way through it with the same manager. I don't know, I'm still a bit kind of overwhelmed by everything at the minute, I think if you take all the emotion out of it which is hard for me because I got really emotionally infested by the end of it and possibly if you've got a script something this is how you'd script it but not when you're in there now. No, not at all, not at all. So obviously Shaun Dyche coming, how did you find, have you found him compared to Frank Lampard in terms of they both appear on the outside to be different characters, you know Frank's quite smooth and all of that, Shaun's got a very headmastery style to him it appears. So I mean have you found both of them in terms of working with you? Yeah Lampard was, he was good. Oh he's Lampard now is he? Frank Lampard. Frank Lampard was good. Shaun Dyche, I think he said himself as neat, he's a Marmite manager and I'm afraid I absolutely love him. You don't need to be afraid if you've worked with him. I fall on that side and that's only because I did spend, I spent much more time with him than I did Frank Lampard, the fairness, a lot more time with the gaffer as he tells me off for calling him Shaun in the thing. And he's got the driest sense of humour, I have quite a dry sense of humour anyway so I find it quite funny. I understand people probably don't always get his jokes but I like it, I like how he brought a completely sense, he kind of came straight in and took the emotion out of it straight away and I thought that was very clever to do that. Sport psychology wise, he's a fascinating person to just sit and watch about the training round, how he operates, how he speaks to people and I think people will be surprised, he could have a real good laugh with the players, a really good laugh. You hear a bit with Tom Davis and him in series where he's laughing about living in a mirrorless house. But you know he brought in his wheel of misfortune as well which I think was a really clever way of doing it and finding players for leaving the shim pads out or leaving the coffee cup on the table and not putting it away. Do you have to do your own plates with Finch Farm? Scrape them all and put them onto the thing. Did that change or has that always been? That's always been there but a very odd moment where I was waiting to put the cutlery in the thing and Dominic Calvert-Lewards there doing it, putting his cutlery in the soapy water. He's fascinating as a person, as a manager and I enjoyed his company. A little bit scary. Just a bit, just a bit. I mean it's really good. What this series has done is I personally don't think the football club do enough to humanise these people so it's very easy because we've often said on this channel it's felt like two and a half seasons. It's felt like two and a half seasons, I've been one season. So just misery, that's what it feels like just misery. He just said he feels like it's not been, he doesn't even feel like it was from a world cup break. He says it just feels like it's been two years. No, that's it, just won't go. And so you're like a coiled spring, I ever told him it's getting worse and worse because there's no lead up and therefore it's very easy then to dismiss people I think as a supporter to just go not good enough or why should I back him? And I think this is something that I hope changes at the football club. I think it will with new ownership. They'll try to humanise them a little bit more because I think that's what this series has done brilliantly. Kevin Thelwell, a person now I know Evertonians want to hear more from and for whatever reason it hasn't happened enough with the football club. But I think on this I think he comes across really well. And I think that to me has been one of the biggest takeaways from this. How you've got him and how you've interviewed him and so did Mark Chapman as well. I think he comes out of this really, really good. But he's still a little bit of a mystery man to Evertonians and we feel like we need to know more from him. I think it comes out what his plans are, how did you find dealing with him? Yeah, he explains things so well. He's really good at explaining things and he takes his time. I think that was good with the series as well because we could take a little bit more time and Mark Chapman's episode with him is one of my favourite episodes. It's just them two sat talking and it's brilliant. He's got humour, he talks about his dad being an Evertonian as well and he says his harshest critic is his dad and he's got to keep his dad happy. I have to say I sat with him and I saw him around a few times and when he was explaining to me about January and what happened he spoke about Danjuma in quite big detail and he spoke about why he decided at the end that we're not going to buy anyone. We're not going to spend any more money. Actually he got a lot of criticism at the time and so did the club as you know and when you look at it as a business decision everybody else leads and lester spent money and everyone knows what happened there. So he got it right and I think it's very easy to criticise people but you've also got to go actually when things go right there's got to be some praise and it's lovely to hear him going into his thought process around all that and yet he's great with Mark definitely and talking about what's to come and he doesn't make any false promises either. It takes time so he's not saying he's going to have it fixed by Christmas. It's going to take time and I think as long as someone's honest and he's a really honest guy and really interesting and will go into depth and he puts some long hours in I'm telling you I think he lives there. I don't think I ever saw him go home so I don't know if he does live there. Maybe he just lives there. I was a bed underneath his desk or something. I know when he went he had a few days with his family just at the end of the season but he had his phone with him and it was going all the time so he's a really hard working guy and I'm glad he's come across really well I have to say because I found him very honest and an interesting story. I could speak to him for days. Not that he'd have the time, nobody would want to. No but I do think that's a big, that's certainly a huge plus point from it I think and he's come out of it really well on that like I say I hope from our perspective as Evertonians that the club realised how well it's come across and that we want more of that because that is a direction that as fans we need. We don't need to be told the ins and outs but we need something to believe in and we've had it the other way so far so I think this has been fantastic at doing that. What was it like coming towards the end of the season because obviously you've gone in there as you said hoping to see a rebirth of Everton in some form hoping for a calmer season under the manager. We've had all of this stuff going on the manager's being changed, comes in and there's some positive stuff at the start and then evidently it's a little bit of a sticky spell of home games. What was it feeling as you were coming towards the end of the season? What was the mood like? 32 injuries wasn't the only one. I think I nearly got injured at one point though. That last few weeks but do you know what? It was the weirdest experience because I like everybody else. On the TV and on the radio I'd be constantly immersed in it which I don't know why because it wasn't very good for my mental health but I think it's all any of us did was just constantly talk about it, listen to it, watch it but you'd go in and I'd open the door and go into Finch Farm and it was genuinely calm. Genuinely. Is that something that you brought in to think? He says in the series to me when we sat in the canteen the first time I properly recorded with him he says I'm always here I'm never here when we've won or here when we've lost I'm always here and if you do look at him he's always pretty much the same pretty much the same and he worked hard to take the emotion out of it because the last thing you need is nerves going into that and it was calming there I mean you could tell players were thinking about it a lot and you could see some players were definitely constantly thinking about it I mean Seamus talks about it very honestly but that's who he is Connor Cody was there and you could tell he was thinking and he was doing a lot of talking a lot of the senior players the bigger voices James Tarkovsky as well talking to people and just trying to get people's morale up and the experience that they were bringing to it and Dwight McNeill had been in it same as Tarky had been in it the season before with Burnley and had a different outcome they were drawing upon that as well but it was I think they were the first team with probably the calmest people in there there was a couple of times you'd glance at people and go and everyone would go okay it's alright it'll be okay things like the kit men and the ground staff and everybody here in the series those last few weeks did everything to their maximum whether it was preparing the training pitches everyone was making sure everything was perfect the food was perfect the kits were all perfect I went in that kit room and everything was done well in advance and it was the same on the last game of the season I don't know about you but I got there like 5 hours early I think because it was just I can't sit at home any longer with it being a half full kickoff it was ridiculous but yeah it was calm with the first team yeah I wasn't calm I pretended I was calm in there that game obviously building to that game there've been moments where and it's on the series isn't it where you capture fans coming out and they're like we're gone we're down new castle full of them at home it's just dreadful and then we had obviously the big boost the bright and which come from nowhere you know lester we should have won then we could have lost Jordan you know I'm saving then it comes a wrap on the game we were actually we'd gone to Wales for the week two days and so me and my boy drove back on that board my day so I timed it to get into the ground as late as possible because I was just literally as that cause is playing you alright yeah well I'm just trying not to give any thought to it because the more like you said the more you think about it the way it gets but on that day you know when the core is gone and the noise is just I'll never get that by a munich which was incredible it was the best game I've ever been to the noiseiest but there's a few games where that noise level is like oh my god I can't hear myself thinking when the core is gone that goal haven't me kissing randoms around me and hugging everyone when it went in I mean it was unbelievable so what was it like for you when the final whistle went and you thought if you didn't find by then obviously I mean keep in mind as well I couldn't tell anyone where I say it you know I was stressed anyway and then I couldn't tell anyone about what also I was also in the back of my thinking oh my goodness like how is this series going to end how what's going to happen what happens if the worst case scenario happens and yeah it couldn't have been impacting every area of my life more really at that point yeah I mean I got to go down to the tunnel at the end and you hear it again in the series speak to the manager and talky at the end and I think it's probably I was just all over the place I couldn't even string a sentence together to even speak to them I was covered in it's the least professional I think I've ever looked I was covered in dirt I don't know how it got dirty and I think I'd probably as everyone had celebrated that goal I think I'd probably gone over the back of a chair I don't know yeah and I ended up sat waiting there was a little I don't want to call it a cupboard it's probably not big enough to call it a room but a little bit bigger than a cupboard just waiting just off the tunnel for them to come and see me and there was and I just felt exhausted absolutely exhausted and there was a mop bucket and I tipped it upside down and I just sat on a mop bucket and all the recorded equipment was all over the floor and I just sat on a mop bucket and I had a moment and then the manager walked in and I was scrambling up trying to get up and I was thinking I'm not being yeah but yeah and I just in the back of my head was thinking thank goodness for that series he's going to end with that the glamorous life of a journalist I sat on a mop bucket waiting for the manager absolutely what are looking back now what were like your favourite bits or the most enlightening bit of that because obviously I tipped what was it seven months of your life eight months of your life something like that and a hell of a lot more because it's still going on now but I just mean actual record being in there and living it it's a huge part of up to a long year isn't it yeah it was a huge amount of my time being in there and sometimes you get a phone call saying come now and you can do that and you know I was there when Dyson arrived on the Saturday I got a phone call saying he's going to arrive in an hour can you get here so off you go yeah literally just I was in Scruff's home just chucked something smarter on and went the highlights for me I think have been I mean one of the best afternoons I had was with Dyson in Worm sat talking to hear that in episode four and just talking to them and them telling me about how they met and their friendship and how they work is fascinating and that was a really good afternoon and I always enjoy recording Shane this anyway because he's completely honest I've got no sides to him the legend the legend don't call he's going to kill me I'll call him you don't need to call him I called him once and I've now called and I'm dreading seeing him now because he'll go and I've got this awful thing of everyone I'm going to go to and go you are a legend he's going to get peppered him saying no we should have just said well that's your way it's not mine I'm short on them I'm left with that so that was good it's hard now I've finished it and it's out there's so many I loved being in the kit room I loved being in there with Jimmy and Tony it was great and they'd always helped me if it was freezing cold at training and they'd go here have some extra kit get this wrong so that was great recording with the women's side brilliant Meg Finnegan's absolutely fantastic in it obviously now the captain woman of the moment woman of the moment as well and she's brilliant in it her and Lucy Hope near the end sort of how that last few days with the men's team is impacting them because it impacts everybody and they're great on that it's so hard to pick I think if I had to pick one it would be afternoon with the manager and Ian Wayne but there's so many for it there's so many I'm not going to keep pushing you on it but listen it's a fantastic series comes across brilliantly you've done a magnificent job on it deserve all the credit because it's brilliant is there anything now it's done that you change or is there anything you wish wish you'd have done that for it or are you are you just looking to go nah that was really good man I'm glad it's I'm glad it's the way we are now because it's out and everyone seems to be lovely do you know what it was I'm not kind of somebody who tries to in anything I do is go I'd do that differently it was I had one shot to get each bit I got I did my best if it's not if other people think they could have done better I'm completely fine with that it was an emotional rollercoaster someone said to me you can't call it a rollercoaster though because you've got to have ups and downs they said I think that's unfair because actually the work ups as well I don't think there's anything I would change I think it just looking back at it now I'm just sort of just amazed I stayed in there and that's fair play to everybody in Finchfarm and also the fact that they were so honest and open when they did record and I don't know if that's the difference between audio and cameras as well I know a few people have said oh it'd be nice to have a camera I think I think people are falling in love with audio again off this I'm a bit of an audio geek I'm a bit of a radio geek and all that so I like the fact that it is a podcast series and I think the BBC studio sounds engineers have done an incredible job mixing it and I think you could actually the description or the music or whatever's going on I hope people feel like they're actually there and that's yeah so I don't think there's anything I would change I've not really got any regrets I'm just overwhelmed I'll be honest I haven't thought I can't think straight at the minute but you need to just accept that that everyone's loving it because you've done such a good job on it and that's the way it is it's difficult because it's coming up to a year of your life isn't it? it's from the start it must have been around now maybe that you found out last year or something so that's a huge project to be part of and especially when you've got to keep it quiet you know both for a handful of people and then I guess it's coming out and then you're thinking oh how's this going to be received you need to relax everything I've seen is positive people are loving it the lowest peak you could do something perfect and people are going oh I wish I'd have loved it to be cameras I'll be honest I love all of it and one thing I think it might do is it might be a gateway to that in the future forever it might be who knows because you've done such a good job and people at the BBC and my chat man they might go oh actually yeah yeah oh it can be perfect because I do think everything needs to move forward but for you just breathe now it's out there I haven't slept for about a year I haven't slept at all and then the night obviously I knew we didn't even do anything before we just dropped online and I didn't sleep and I watched each episode uploading on sounds at 6am last Thursday morning and I just thought I am absolutely terrified but people have been yeah I'm just completely overwhelmed I really am genuine I haven't slept because my head is spinning and it's gone you know people have loved it more than I hoped I think Mark Chapman is absolutely brilliant Mark Chapman's done a fantastic job he's somebody that I think he's a legend to me in broadcasting and yeah he's narrating a series that I've been on it's completely insane yeah and we do message now I'm like oh this is so exciting now he's good and obviously he's he's got a little bit of an affinity with that and he's come and done some of the editing awards as well as he's presented them so I know he's not Nevitonian as such and he says he's brother-in-law in Nevitonian he says that in a series as well and I think it's his nephew as well and he's got a lot of admiration for the club a lot of and I think that comes across yeah it does a lot of respect for the history of the club and fair play to him but yeah the whole thing has been and I'm so sorry if people have messaged me and I haven't got back to them I'm just completely at a loss as to what to say apart from thank you you've had a listen you've done you've lived something for a year and I think it's to have to keep it under wraps must be incredibly difficult to have to do for that long when you're in it all the stuff that's gone on everything isn't an easy ride for anyone so having that on top of it and then you do have those nerves before it goes out so listen everyone loves it everything I've seen people have spoke to it we all love it in this room people we speak to everyone's and you can see it everywhere it's everywhere whether it's quotes whether it's people saying watch this do this talk people conversation about it it's brilliant and that's normally a sign that you've done something right so you should be very proud and non football fans are listening which is another thing I've had a few people going I don't like football but I'm listening to this and I'm liking it that's probably the drama though isn't it signs of something that's being put together very well me completely stressed well you need to just relax now well thank you yeah I mean I should say thank you to BBC studios BBC sounds everyone are five live it's all worked on this because of the big team that have you know waded through hours and hours and hours of stuff to make sure that we've got all the best stuff in for everyone to listen to yeah big thanks to Mark Chapman who's been ace on the whole thing and massive thanks to Everton because without them we wouldn't have anything well just be you talking just be me and nobody needs that well my meltdown at the end of episode 6 after Newcastle is enough listen we know now that if I'm a celebrity you're looking for someone to go on it you can keep a secret so we know that you can go on there or dancing on ice or big brother so you're there now that you're next to it you've put yourself in a shot window I'm a nobody no one wants me on that well we'll straight listen there's a few people on there anyway listen thank you very much for coming in and having a chat about it my pleasure thank you absolutely brother and congratulations on it try or it'll continue to get bigger if you haven't checked it out it's there why haven't you never thrown it I'm sure you have but if you haven't thrown BBC Shants it's free give it a listen it's brilliant it's absolutely brilliant so go on check it out thank you very much again Julia well done we'll see you later