 From being here, the events that I've already attended, new frontiers, and the really big emphasis on integrating with Māori culture and really trying to understand that somehow has really given me a hunch that understanding or let's say healing the world's problems, I think doing that or trying to do that without indigenous knowledge will not be possible. And I think that's one of the main reasons why I actually decided to join the program because this is sort of the only place I've seen that really happening very intentionally and I think that if we don't include that perspective, we're not going to go very far.