 Okay, well, hello everybody. Is this going to be speed or? Is this speed? Okay. Okay, then we can say whatever we want. We are sponsored by Fox IT. Yay! We have the same guide, which is wonderful. We call it your actual... Should we record it? I don't care. I don't care. The recording is on the other time anyway. Okay, good. Then we can... Hey. So, in a way, we were sponsored by Fox IT, but given in our circle, there's two Fox ITs, even three. There's the PDF reader. There's a light and audio-official company called it, but with Fox with pH, and there's the IT company. The last one gave problems. One just called with another offer, with a sponsor offer. So, there's something nice that I can show for the first time in this event history, which is we always had a secrecy around how many tickets were sold. So, there were... I don't know where it came from. Nobody knows where it came from. And at heart, it was always a secret. I mean, things like that. What do we do this? So, this is the current ticket graph. Ticket sale graph. And let me explain a little bit. Yeah. The scale is... The scale is matching the other lines. So, what you see is the pink line, the lower one, this one, that's the heart. The blue line is the ordered from Aum. The mixed-up green line, apparently, here. That's the amount of tickets paid for Aum. And all the colored layers over here are the different ticket types that are in the shop for Xia. And, yeah, you can see a bronze ticket and silver, gold, young hacker tickets, press ticket. There's one press ticket. The discount tickets, you can see them here. The thing that's new. And you still see the orange line creeping up and the discount ticket line. So, that is pretty nice to see. Are these paid? These are paid. Ordered is way higher. This is paid. And you see that Aum is creeping up a little bit. And we're still very well underway. But, yeah, of course, we need some extra ticket sales to be sure that this will happen. Why access Aum, zero, increment by 50 tickets or increment by 100%? Uh, no. 200, 500. Yeah, it's being cut off. But the scale is the same. So, the number is 2,000 and it's on the other zero, zero is also 2,000. And we opened the tick job on the CCC Congress and that's been like 250 tickets in a day. So, if that didn't happen, we couldn't pay all the suppliers. So, that's very good to see. But we hope to have some of the boosts when releasing the final program. That's a must have. But currently we are at 2,012 tickets, at least this morning. And, yeah, if it's a steady thing, then we will reach about 3,000 people. But if there's a boost in some way or anyway, then it will be 3,500 people and we have a great event. And everything above that makes that more awesome. It's as simple as that. We've made budget for all these scales. So, this is the first time we do announce how many tickets were sold. So, yeah. We have no idea how many types of tickets were paid at home. Simply we don't know. Maybe we can find a backup of the ticket shop somewhere but we're in the process of erasing everything from home. So, yeah. For hard, we really don't know. And what you also miss on this graph is on the right side there is a month missing. For hard, there were 2,300 or 2,500. Over 3,300. And the graph only goes to 2750. So, yeah. This is the best we can do now. Can I share something? Yeah. Some people might think it's a way you can help with your organizing and the cost. Sorry? No. Would you really want to be in? It's just being recorded. No. What I said is that we have an awesome terrain which can feed up to 5,500 people. So, we are comfortable with the ticket amount but wherever you go and maybe talk to someone if people buy tickets now or just earlier it really helps with the organizing costs with the heaven for volunteers and so on. So, we can plan ahead. Yeah. That's a very good question. There's either or a mix of two things that is drama around FOXIT and the release of the program. Or both. Apparently, I think it's a mix of both so we should have more drama I guess. So, Evil Corp. What should we do? What drama do we want? We can choose one. Anyone. I will not repeat that. So, yeah. This is what we've all been hiding for years now and now everybody's come out of the closet. That's the ticket sales. What do we have more? We are currently working. There's like a team of six people working like crazy on the permit and permits in the Netherlands are well, a lot of work. Like crazy. It's really insane how much time we spend writing and looking for what the rules are. And while we go in February we sent in this permit request signed and searched and received and that's all fine. But it needs to be fleshed out. So, what are real hazards that we have on our events? So, they're used to like big dance festivals with 25,000 people walking to a single stage at the end of the event. This is a bit different. So, we have risks with lasers for example or people burning their hands on a soldering iron. Completely different. So, the immunity penalty is also a bit like what's this, what can we expect? And we have had two or three brainstorm sessions of all the things that can't go wrong with this event. What do we have more? There will be traffic. The traffic will be rerouted. It will be a one-way road around the site. We had to come up with a traffic plan. The traffic plan was actually pretty nice except for the first sign of the plan which was reversed. The sign was reversed so the whole plan was discarded. So, we did it again this time with the correct sign. There's a lot of objects on the site if you look at the map. All these objects need to be named and explained. So, the resolution is extreme. So, each and everything here has to be oh, this doesn't work like that. I should do... Yeah, exactly. So, we have to of course tell what kind of tent and what kind of tent starts with asking the vendor what tents do you have and then you get this... Where is it? Oh, there's this explanation of a tent which is mostly what we see as code for computer code, this is basically all kinds of calculations about these tents. So, these tents are ridiculously engineered to the max and we have to supply all that and it also includes a drawing. Yeah. So, one of the nice features of this map now is that you can click on an object that shows this tag, this map object thing on the right and this is something you can use on the Xiaowiki. So, for example I made a page for the CTF tent to try it out. You can click on it and it loads a part of that wiki page. And that's nice because we can then add all kinds of information for visitors. It's a nice feature. The page is itself empty but well that's because it was just a test. So, this is a nice new feature of the map. But all the items here have to be described and searched and also the flamethrowers, the materials working on and the lasers and all the other stuff that this just has potential risk. What do we have more? That's really boring. Also the amount of showers and washing tables and how we promote the event and of course a lot of drawings. And these drawings are very detailed and it is where are they out of time? Yeah, I'm sorry. There are a lot of drawings of all the escape routes. We have three escape routes and what's the route that's used? What is the route that is used in emergency situation? There's also a map for that and there's a map for this and this and that. This is one of the drawings that Red Lizard made and Red Lizard was really happy with drawing over a thousand chairs. There's 1500 chairs here and yeah that was a lot of work and this is the layout for track 1 what we will have on the stages we decided last week will be instead of beamer projectors we will have LED screens or LED walls for 5 or 6 meters wide and 3 meter high so that's pretty nice. This is the smaller track, track 3 with still 750 people and for every tent there is a drawing of how it's going to look and of course this goes on and on this is really ridiculous well at least we know what we're doing I'm missing another list there's another list but also a few Sandmaster? Where is it? Updated tent or something I don't know what this one is used for we have another one but I cannot find it on the list oh here it is this is the other FM broadcast tower we also have to describe that this is a broadcast tower that can withstand normal wind speeds up to 136 kilometers an hour which is Orcane hurricane speeds so that's all fine and there's a lot of this stuff there's of course in the Netherlands we have to have house rules and there's an update on the house rules also with how when are vehicles allowed on the terrain oh this works pretty great yes I will make sure that happens so house rules and it's made in the cringy word I even had to download and pirate a copy I had to buy a copy of word to do this and it says things about don't panic and be excellent to each other about the environment vehicles they will also be available in English noise waste, lost and found, photography drugs, alcohol, smoking fire, blah blah blah pets, you name it and this is basically the short version of the extremely terrible terms of conditions that have been written by a group of raging lawyers that want to make sure that Shah is never liable and that doesn't work that way so we have this better set now of course there's a plan for security in first aid so what does security do how do they work what is the communication with that team they're working on it right now in short it says how how they communicate what stuff is not allowed for example if they find somebody is an idiot and brings a weapon to the site will never happen but still it's sort of standard there's also a first aid plan the Red Cross will help us hopefully also some people from CERC it will be really nice and it's a really long list of how that works the logs that they keep to keep track on for example food poisoning in between shifts and such so you need logs and that stuff it is incredibly long I will not bore you if you want access to all these files you're welcome to just say so everybody's writing like crazy on these things this weekend I have a deadline on next Monday so I'm not getting too much sleep but I'm here so I wouldn't get sleep anyway yes there's an escape plan for how to leave the field that of course happened there was a CC camp there was a storm which was not anticipated and well that was that is a source where we learned from but I've not seen the plan itself I know that there is something on the the notebook or the what's it called the script the script has a time slot somewhere where we're going to practice the emergency routes and there will also be meetings where all this stuff is explained to the point where the ORGA or a few key volunteers need that information yeah that's basically the permit I think so it's not too bad there's a phone list but we will not hand that over we will use that for ourselves they want to do it we just give the outline we have these numbers and these are the supplies we don't care about the supplies too much so in terms of they also have the numbers on the website what's more yeah of course how the bar works when they have alcohol and there's one thing we still need a workaround for we are allowed to sell beer no problem but we are not allowed to sell to mix your own alcoholic beverages at the bar so that means I just visited the lightning talk where somebody made a chunk mixer from a concrete mill and we are not allowed to do that so what we are looking for is a bottling plant or a keg factory that can fill up rum and mata before the event and we can put that on draft or top so if you know such an organization that can do this it's highly we would really want to get our know who that is we have a lot of connections to people who are into their own beverages so we should talk and maybe get some time yes thanks it's not allowed in any way we've discussed this all the options and as long as we when it comes to mixing alcohol they want to have a guarantee that the alcohol we sell is Swag alcoholies below 15% but they are even stronger and they are even more strict and they say max 5% so yeah that's what they want so we have to work with that in some way so having kegs with a chunk premade or a part of a chunk premade is a work around here it's not allowed in the Netherlands sorry mixing is not allowed in the Netherlands I think mixing is allowed in the Netherlands the question was okay yeah there's so much stuff forbidden these are normal incident scenarios there's this the evacuation plan let's see what it says well this is really easy stuff oh this is work the program it's being announced well that's something I will have to read through still 112 okay emergency services yay well don't want to think about that I have other things now yeah question is so the question is can we build towers or our own structures the answer is two parts it is the terrain of the scouting organization so they're used to a lot of types of things happen towers being built and such so that's part one but the second part is when will it become dangerous or when is there a risk there will be an inspection on site five days before the event and one day before the event we walk around with some professionals and yeah if something is not deemed safe then we will offer an alternative basically that will be the process and if you have questions just ask them to me or any one of the permit team right now if you think the tower should be 30 meters high then you might think there are some rules attached to this so so yes is there anything else okay would you like to do the honor of presenting the squares and lines I just got this can is there any oh they're not that insane so this easy thing the utility building E0 and L0 this is a datanclow plan oh wow how many datanclows does have I ah closet okay good it's paper go to the map map will have some layers we don't like the trees we don't like the tents no field names no campers no base um oh it's not really that impressive oh this is it this is the plan power water yeah so this is basically all the utility boxes on site and the yeah I think the whole terrain is limited to 32 amps or something 64 the whole terrain okay it's still not enough yeah so yeah dren E0 and L0 which are like the utility so I sort of left there E0 because he is able to lay out the building oh I will uh and there are buildings so there's a utility building there which has a net level of power to put servers uh and video and whatever stuff there and then there's also L0 that's another one so it's a concrete building which is already there and from that building there's there's fire and power going out to these closets which each closet will have power fiber and copper and sometimes water as well with the power supply power in those buildings but all the other stuff will probably be on the generators yeah additionally a few of the light installations will also run on the backup or the standard power just because if the if the generators go offline then we still have light or if the standard power to go offline we still have the generator if both filled and we have another problem more interesting problem oh yeah we have two generators dedicated with emergency lighting we can just drive on the terrain for the emergency roads so that's that's pretty nice and if that fills flashlights flashlights smartphones with lamps on them um so yeah um also planning for a fountain glow this will be the first fountain glow on a pier that's a pier it's gonna have a fountain glow uh fiber to the boat oh wow what's the status of the uplink that does the uplink also okay it goes to the left there if you zoom in there there's another utility building there it's called end one and everybody has a fiber going to the Euro fiber and we're currently we have like dark fiber going to Amsterdam which we can light ourselves and uh we're kind of fooling around to see how much capacity we can put on there but we're aiming for one minute of deep connection which is going to kill that we at least can say we had one minute of deep connections going to happen yeah are they going to splice things for two times or something but yeah so because because it's uh the dark fiber I think it's around 50 kilometer and uh so they're they have to all the interconnection points they have to splice otherwise you have too much loss all that kind of distance there's some costs involved unfortunately but uh this is basically the only option we have and this is bad thing about it they're basically a monopoly in the pooler there's one company one fiber one company you would offer fiber so that's the bad thing about this the rain because there's uh oh you want to go like with ohm you want to go two miles of rolling out fiber cables through fields and not no no no no no no they could have asked more money basically they could have squeezed us and they didn't so we should be grateful okay well don't say that too loud there's no recordings of this so so this is when we get in the pool right before that the pool there this is an artificial island where the event is so if you zoom out a bit then you see the water one of the largest man-made uh island well yeah man-made island basically another question mostly uh waters religious land you have to look at some just getting the solution points it was on the camp or will there be a possibility to connect up also small so they don't have to carry around like that I don't have the answer for that I have not heard the request there are I can show what the water points are and yeah there's there's enough places where you can water and there's enough places where there's sewage so it's about the same uh infrastructure um and you can I think uh but that's more see pressure maybe you can um this question was asked before um and unfortunately there's no answer to that yet um I talked to another about it and he kind of said we are not going to have that we still think we should have it and um I don't know how the infrastructure on site is so for fresh water I personally don't see the problem but for sewage I don't think you can supply it there so if you bring all the piping and the pumps and the stuff you can probably also have sewage yeah that's that's at least if yeah well there's there's a lot of sewage pipes here and a lot of places where you can put it in so that that sort of helps but uh I don't know we should find it out maybe on the next uh we're going to the terrain a few times more we can of course ask what the what the policy is I think that at least if you use water and you want to waste some water you have and you have a must use sewage system so there's no doubt um but I don't know exactly nobody really knows the details on this there's way more sewage points than water points so that that's at least a good thing but here on the bigger camping field there's yeah you have to if you are in in this lower corner then you have a challenge or do you have all that so another question yeah it's a bit underrated that we had a bit of a controversy about what is supposed to be a village and what is supposed to be a cluster do you have a number in mind about the number habitants for a cluster or is it just arbitrary what I think uh cluster is more of a some sort of grouping of villages and uh and you can have two villages with the same person with one person which is the same person so you can then make a cluster of more more than one village so basically you can have a cluster with one person yes yes so you can make whatever you want the clusters is an interesting thing I blindly copy that from the uh from the sea the camprikey so I don't know there was some Leander do you know about something about this I was mostly grouping and grouping purposes and did you remember exactly what uh thinking about I kind of think I can answer that because I put clusters into the wiki um so the idea is that just another level of hierarchy for organizing villages uh because um a lot of time villages plan their stuff together like they um they every village brings their own tents but they decide to do just one kitchen and they're going to use that together so that kind of is the that is a cluster so if villages want to work together infrastructure we next to each other that is a cluster um so normally you fix the description in the wiki and so the issue is that the house west we're still figuring out how many people are coming really uh so maybe it's just two or three from each of the second spaces so that would be that it would be a total and it's we're not quite figuring out how to create this and we have the living tents and we have the infrastructure tents so that would be a cluster in your mind yeah you can do that yes I would say do what you feel is best there's nobody going to police on this that would be horrible yeah well there's for example then the cluster of power those are villages related to creating their own power from solar from all kinds of whatever power source I don't know burning hamsters I don't know you name it and they grouped around this area on the camp that's pretty practical because they bring all kinds of regulators and power capacitors and such and they don't have kilometers of cable so the physical requirements for such a cluster in everybody that wants to help is evidence here and there's also a cluster for the family area so there's two parts of the family area which is the village and the playing field the top is designated as being the village and here's a playing field with all kinds of workshops and they put in there two things and there might be somebody that says hey I'm going to bring this and this and this and I'll just register as part of this cluster so those are simple examples another question that was asked before sorry for being late what's what I'm doing if you bring lots of stuff in and get on the the car yeah it's also a question more more suppressive maybe you should be here yes you can get on the your stuff we put some days and times into the week already it's on the HQ page on the central page those times might change but basically you can try on the area for all those stuff that will be possible okay but I mean there are still two to try on the fields right? yes so it will probably be similar to the CC camp that only a specific amount of vehicles, trucks, whatever are allowed on the field at the same time and the idea from the villagers team was to kind of blend this stuff ahead with time slots so the waiting time for everybody is lower so if you come on the planned date and time then you will be able to enter the field directly additionally you see here day one is an access for village build up in general if there is a special requirement or large installations or you have three trucks with stuff then you can just say hi and then a different arrangement can be made so but there is quite a bit of tarmac on the field as well so you can get pretty close right? yeah if you look at the map the grey stuff that tarmac you can drive with very interesting large trucks on that stuff we do not want anyone driving over the grass so if that is a requirement and you want to be somewhere on an outskirt that would be harder then we have to make some exceptions driving plates and what not so those are fire lanes this is also the Netherlands 101 there cannot be more than a thousand square meter in this particular area and they think there the reason is that if one tent burns down for example here I will make a ridiculous example if a tent burns down here it will not catch this whole forest on fire and burn the rest too no still they want to make sure that it is isolated if something terrible happens then they can get close by with a fire truck so this would be like yeah, flutterbund happens we tried also to get special shia flutterbund cyber flutterbund also so it will probably be the boring red white stuff are these campers are they able to be part of the village in some cases they are currently we have with the scouting and the arrangement for campers I can show that too but we as an orga are not really happy with this the reason that scouting wants this is because they don't want the terrain to be demolished by all kinds of cars so they are very careful about it so at the top there is a place there is here next to the lake next to the entrance there is a place and here is an overflow place most of us prefer that you can camp anywhere but that is not really allowed so the rule we have is if your camper or bus has a special thing of interest for the camp for example it has an installation of a piece of art then we can make a rule or can break the rule so a bit so make something beautiful yes this is what we have to do with unfortunately any other questions? yeah I know so we looked at the orders for campers there are 14 campers with kids and if we are lucky we can all place them in the family that would be the ideal situation if they would like to so that is still micromanagement which we don't like one thing about family village that is meant to be about months ago this is a very nice our third microphone facility which is actually built by scouting so nice the buildings are building things and enough space which is not always the case yeah yeah they did the official opening last weekend but major and yeah seriously all the facilities on site this one here they have put a block of toilets here and one here and one here in the center so we have to rent one truck with showers if I am correct and then we have enough showers that everybody can take a shower is there also a shower next to a sink there is a block of showers and such here here exactly I have not been in there but they promise me so I am there is a bicycle would cross in the field I remember there was never much discussion about people who wants to cycle through they were not allowed to do what is the plan here this is part of the traffic plan what will happen is that a few days before the event from here there will be a sign and things and they will say you have to drive over this road and then you can this this is the bicycle laid and it goes on and on and it basically says that you have to go here somewhat I don't really know I think here straight to this place and then you can continue your travels and there is also on the other side there is also a sign that is part one there is also these brown lines are what is it called there is also a mountain bike road we are currently looking into who manages that and can we ask to also have no mountain bikers there was one incident with a mountain bike that was looking like oh beautiful tense and flipped over ended up in the hospital sorry the dyke is very interesting this is if you look at what we rent this terrain this is part and that is everything you want to do there answers with no and this is a public part we cannot do anything with that and everybody can walk there anytime that is public so this is very interesting in terms of access control because that means there is basically it is very hard to do all kinds of other trickery and there probably might be some fences here and the other side that is very interesting to do any access control I don't know do we ever walk around and check risk brands Thomas that is what it is so we have a wiki page for this it is called the dyke oh this is not here we have to move this page copy the page dyke so we are going to make this right now so you see my security policy all passwords are pre-filled and here we go so this will be interesting because for press one of the most interesting locations is of course on the dyke then you see the whole campsite also for decoration there is a tower plant around here with a laser on it and this will be a ridiculous blue laser ridiculously bright and that will mimic the sea so if you are on this side on the camp here is that you see a laser ceiling across you on the whole night if you break the dyke then that is the part that will be the open part so yes there is actually also a very high pressure gas line running in the dyke oh really there is a high pressure gas line in the dyke so don't okay so don't break the dyke there is a box over here somewhere there is a power box over here somewhere with beautiful hazard signs stickers and all the stuff we have on our laptops this will be the parking area this is a very nice thing because parking tickets are ridiculously expensive those are 42 euros each and that goes to one single thing and that is getting trucks with plates in we have about 30 to 36 trucks with steel plates each weighing 1000 kilo and they will put them down over here and why would we ever do such a thing because the same terrain was used for scouting in 2015 and they found out after three days of rain on the event that there is no car able to drive off that camping site anymore so you have 1000 cars stuck in a field if you have a money to if you have 6 money tos it will take like days weeks maybe so that is so terrible that is also a feature of the polder it is all clay ground so it is all soft and we had to make some some decision the other option was to have parking way way way way offsite which is totally not practical at all so this is expensive it is practical you can even go to your car get safe stuff in it there is also a small outpost here a tent wifi and of course wifi and whatever light and such so it does not really suck if you do that kind of shift oh it has a nice facility space link already yay so we make people pay to make them park somewhere else or to have the infrastructure to transport cars off if there is an issue in this case we pay for those plates so we do these plates before cars to park on those plates are incredibly expensive because it is small and it is a clean view of this actual shape right I can also show the video if you want there you can see part of these this stuff we will do it without audio this time is this clear a little audio then so this is that parking filled with the sheep what was yeah it is pretty big we will only use this first part of that terrain it looks a little bit like the ohm terrain you can under normal conditions these trucks will not be used if there is no rain if there is no rain we throw away a lot of money if there is rain in the Netherlands so yeah let's fly over to camp most of you have probably seen it already we are currently working on a permit to get an entrance gate over here like ohm mum is going to decorate that you can yes that is correct if you want and you really put some effort in it you can camp on that island over there there is no power at all yeah you have to put in some effort there is also we are going to use some inflatable crocodiles but there is one or two of these lakes those have drainage we will have to have some fences around it unfortunately the other ones you can swim in the water is like fresh water that is moving it is supposedly safe to swim we of course will test that not with lifehackers but with something else yeah this is this is one of these boxes with facilities in it here is the other one and this is the scouting Porto Cabin complex there is another one another Porto Cabin here we will rent some for the logistics team we signed a contract that does terrain lighting around the terrain with 4 km of controllable LEDs so you can have a nice app and you can color the whole camp with your Shao Wan Hash off whatever you want the track 3 will be here with the CTF this is just insanely large so we will bring bicycles and stuff and overboards and whatever during the event you mean I don't know what the rules will be yeah we rent a lot of bikes this time 20 or something we have like 10 golf carts which is especially handy during build up also during build up you can just drive with your own car on the side so that means that you can just load up all the stuff and get at least close by if you don't park on the field that helps this is now on the right that field is now a little bit more populated it looks better way better right now there will be most surfaces will be here park, network, deco and such and this will be the main tracks and the bar and now we are flying through family village it's nice and remote a little bit quiet this is like 1 km with 1 km terrain if you want to walk that for the 17 days that we rent the terrain I would suggest get exercise right now a lot of exercise it's a lot of walking and cycling here will be the food court there will be food trucks from all kinds of suppliers and the radio studio will be over there if you have an awesome food truck supplier that you want to have on the terrain I can connect you to the people that arrange that right now currently there are 6 harbour tickets sold we expect about 10 to 12 boats there will be a ferry thing to the hotel there is a hotel on here somewhere far on the right and you can go get there with the ferry thing I don't know what the correct translation is PONT all the way over here there is a hotel you can just go back and forth once an hour it's a half hour one way about once an hour 12 times a day or something like that there is a small beach over there which we also rent and it goes until here we have to play some fences and that's the end of the terrain this is the part of the video where the drone crashed the software crashed and the battery was nearly empty it said it needed to be so energy-insulting and this is also part of the video I really like if you look on the right there is a fence on the dock you are not supposed to go on the dock let's see what happens fence is now gone we need to test the swimming is swimming possible this is one of the shower toilet combinations there are three of them on site and finally two parts some people say this is more the orga camping part then there is a field behind that even so yeah that's the terrain so the ticket sales is like 2,000 people right now with 3,500 it will be all fine we will have a good event we still paid and I don't personally go to bankrupt there is of course an emergency plan to scale down but we think that's really not necessary but we have one we also have plans to scale up from 3,500 to the max capacity of 6,000 that we arranged this and in that case there will be some other things like if you zoom out here there is this camper area it is now a dill grey we also rent this and now it is not sand but nice trees and such that's a very interesting terrain in sense of drainage and such we have to see what we how we can use this the best way it's also huge so yeah it's now 1930 I don't know how much time did we have oh another hour oh we have another hour so we can sing songs and dance no no well any other things we want to how high can we build in our village how high can we build in our village at least that's an interesting good question I like that question what purpose are you looking at really the height of all the instructions which makes it normal with at a certain height I cannot name numbers because I don't know them you will have to have them on the permit or something or have that inspected especially if there will be people on there but if you have antenna for example radio then you can go pretty high like higher than the trees that is just because the antenna most antennas have nice instructions and measurements with them if you will build a lighthouse with scouting did that is 20 meters higher or something then that's a permitting no people in our event climb on those structures in general they are very kind I've seen that at home with the rainbow island we had several towers that everyone could use and people still asked so people are in general really nice for example what happens if there is a storm what will happen with the high structure at what moment does the structure need to be taken down those are interesting questions because if it falls over you want to know those things in advance there will be those inspections on site but I don't really know the numbers by heart it is sensible in the way that it has to be safe and you have to be sure about the construction and it has to make sense and then you can you can build pretty nice things I guess you can try and arrange that from somewhere in the area but that's not really I know that moon for the gate is trying to do that we can ask scouting in that case but I'd rather have someone dedicated for that because that's a lot of extra work next to all the things we are currently doing so I can give some phone numbers and you can call the same question is also for DECO team for Moom she builds a gate that wants to use scrap wood too and I've seen also very big dance festivals with scrap wood constructions on scaffolding so yeah well I think if there are no more questions that's foresee pressure I have I haven't communicated with those people in a while so I don't know what the exact status it is there is some interesting rules with water in the Netherlands I don't know them by by exactly but there are some rules that the water has to move that has to decontaminate it and certainly a fresh water on the site so that helps a little bit other parts it's Netherlands so there are rules for that and you have to search them on the internet and see what they are if the village says we come to the Netherlands we do this according to this rule set and it's all fine and we can check that why not what if they come and just try and do something then in case of water on site that's always terrible it's hard I also had a structure there planned with water and then they came with this stack of paper that I had to fill in so the answer was no oh we can show the deco map so there is also a deco team which has a map with all kinds of constructions that we are now partly running through the permit for example this is a TL fluorescent light bulb I think TL shruggy this is this thing which they are building which is pretty fun t-shirts madness too much twitter stove waffles tada so they will build this on the fences um what's the worst thing now panic oh here UV there are some next to the track there is somebody that offered a lead wall 12 square meters for the lounge so that's one too some maps that we've seen at the camp somebody said I want to make those those are really awesome really helpful especially because the terrain is so large we ordered 70 inflatable crocodiles and a unicorn and some flamingos to put on the water and infinite amount of beach poles for the kids village there will be sharks on this part there will be a monument dedicated to a great titular who died this year scientist um crocodiles somebody is working on a fire matrix and somebody is working on a TL clock which is a 5 meter spanning clock on 9 meters high and with all the minutes are separate TL bulbs so they will flicker around it's ridiculous and that's a permanent thing that's a permanent thing so yeah and all kind of small lights like the things you might have seen before so that's that if there is anything else if not then we can just continue partying here at gpn okay let's party thanks