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Well, all I can say for him is fella If somebody locked you in a room with a TV I doubt the TV would be safe and Dennis Miller wrote a song about you. Okay That's right Okay, Dennis Larry Larry not Dennis Miller direct me when I'm wrong And we're correcting you Think you're wrong too On the marble comic. Yes, indeed now last time when we finished off or we're Get the heck out of here. That's right. We were still talking about this guy. The mighty Hulk That's right That's right. There's the money home. Okay. Basically, um, I went through the whole thing about a Bruce banner and Radioactive thing and all that. Yeah Well, people run Bruce had a cousin. Well, in fact, he still does have a cousin Jessica Walters who apparently grew up in Dayton, Ohio Anyway, she and Bruce were like brother and sister even though they were cousins, you know And there's like five years between them and all and Bruce went away and got into the scientific thing And didn't see a lot over so he went back and just a good become a lawyer and she was defending this one One criminal and something happened in there and his men got upset and they came back and shot her and well She's losing a lot of blood and Bruce just happened to be back at that time So he rigged up this this transfusion thing and and gave her some of his blood because he knew that they had the same Type of blood well by golly Now she has a little more to her blood Because Bruce has this radioactive blood it turns him big and green when he gets upset Well, she did pretty much the same darn thing when those criminals came back and um So but she something else happened and she stayed that way She's big and green all the time now But she loves it and she's turned it in the part of her profession and her whole lawyer thing and well She's just the incredible she hawk. Yes indeed the incredible. She was sensational That's sensational she hawk and she's big and green and God love her Okay And I suppose there's other people that were affected by the gamma radiation like there's a Doc Samson who's got green hair and Things happen to him and there's there's his friend that always snaps his fingers. It's cool sidekick But he was really affected by it. He's just affected by the whole persona There's that thing. Well, let's move on to somebody else now. Shall we that's okay Here we go Matt Murdock Who um his father was a boxer and he grew up in know the hell kitchen part of New York and he um Went ahead there and that was pretty much it he Helped some guy when he was was young there was a blind guy going across the street and he jumps out to help him And there's this truck going by with oh no radioactive stuff on the back Okay, so he pushes the blind guy out of the way But the truck crashes the radioactive stuff breaks and it gets all over him and he's like this by the way That why they have the rule that the trucks have to go around 270. That's right They have that they have to go they have to go outside the whole perimeter of the tree now Only they have not back then G so he ended up in the hospital and They had his face all bandaged up and everything and well and they took the bandages off he looked okay, but um He couldn't really See as far as seeing goes but he could sense things because he's got this Radar since now where he can detect things and he knows where things are he can see people but not as We see them. He can see them kind of guess with Jordy vision kind of yeah Pretty much he got a division He can sense things and he can all his senses were heightened. He just lost his eyesight So um, he decided to put this to good use and become the amazing daredevil Basically if you can't see it you can't be afraid of it And he's real athletic and everything and he has this amazing Billy club that he uses to swing around with well It's not really like this, so we'll just put that away. Anyway, it's just this amazing Billy club when he's not He's not using the Billy club he takes it and puts it together and it becomes his cane And there's all kinds of things in this cane and he's a lawyer They get in some legal trouble they're all set that's right there's at least two super heroes around and um, no, there's his career was kind of ruined by One criminal, but we'll talk about him a little later. Let's move on to another hero And the Marvel Universe there is a certain oil company the rock song oil company Who's basically has a counterpart in our own world? But they just go about doing anything devious and nasty and at one point they decided they wanted to have a Super soldier kind of guy who could go into places and clear out any any Insurgents or Environmental guys helpless natives Just going and clear them out before going in with their big equipment and doing things right so they created death lock That's locked that killing machine. They're a secret killing machine anyway and He It's starting to kind of pretty much start off He was like exploring space or something like that, but then they they brought him back down to earth and Basically, they made him out of somebody who who had died and they kind of cybernetically Re-enhanced the body and half the living tissue was still there and then half of the Half of it was cybernetics and so he became death lock and he was going around doing what they said and then um, he gradually got his own memory back and Realized that he had been used to make become this cyborg and he didn't like that idea So he wants his body back basically because they they've got his actual body in a floating in a chamber and ah It's like he has to do what they say or else. I'll never get his body back Well, so he kind of half does what he said they say and half does it and then he's got his full consciousness back So he's pretty much become a renegade now And he can't really go back to his family because they he doesn't think they'd accept him very well being half dead and moldy And they're half cybernetics and so it kind of wanders around and it's like every time he thinks he's found his body They move it so pretty much this whole Thing to do there run around trying to find his body Yeah, try to see his family, you know and all like that and so that's that's the death lock story That's the death lock deal And if you look real close you can see his brain Okay, there's that one Now the last time we talked quite a bit about the fantastic for let's let's show you Johnny Storm now now He went to art show the fantastic for And the whole idea that now they're coming out with this big fantastic for movie I don't know if he can see any of that there or not the characters whatever anyway This is a low-budget movie this time there They're not spending a whole lot on it because basically the Just don't make it That's kind of the thing but um That one of the problems I guess they had before was well the companies would change or when they did them on TV They tried to make them I don't know to they tried to bring out the human side and they were on every week Yes, run out of story. You see the same effect over and over and over again. So people just got kind of sick of it and um Something that they're trying well the human thing they're trying to do too much of the human thing You know that's something that DC never really tried to do with their they basically dealt with the fact that they're superheroes And that's it. I mean you see them in there in there They're dual dual identity whatever their regular person identity, but um most of the time they were just a superhero That's right, and they were in unusual situations anyway, where the Marvel people they always try to put them in normal situations Here's here's this doctor, and he's just traveling from town to town Here's this college student. He's struggling to make money That's right People don't want to see that in the last ten minutes you actually see them in the costume No, no, no, no, no, no, no, they're doing themselves. We want to see people that are big flashing boy Lots of money. No cares in the world. They're just chasing women and laughing and having a good time and at night They're super hero. That's right, or they're mild manage reporters for the big metropon in newspaper And they look exactly like they would without the fill out They just have on a big suit that just fits them well because they had to make it big to fit over all those bulging Yeah, and glasses with no glass in them. Yeah, okay, but nobody ever figured that out They were just concerned and he was That's pretty much the whole philosophy of DC versus Marvel it's not as much as it used to be but pretty much Marvel did the trying to get into realism as much as possible and DC said no, no, no Kids want fantasy. Yeah, and that's what we're gonna give them and that's probably why their movies and TV things have worked more although now with the recent of the the comic thing the the Cartoon thing the there is there's a Marvel cartoon that's doing well But we'll talk more about that next time because it goes into our next that's right Our next big subject there, but that's it's doing real well Okay, so we'll just have to see how this fantastic four thing does and it's coming up later this year look for it So all right, that's where we want to move it into now. Let's do well. Let's see We've got one a representation of a Norse God character here Thor the mighty Thor In his human persona, he was a doctor also by golly Doctor well, I know it's Blake, but I want to say Robert Blake and that's Beretta It's Dr. Blake He would well Thor Thor the Norse got a thunder he'd come to earth and he'd smash his hammer down and it would become this This a stick basically a walking stick that this doctor would use and he's just a mal-mannered Doctor in New York because they're all basically in New York And every now and then whenever trouble would arise he would smash that stick down to become sore and Fly off and talk with a lot of these and now here's a nice example A lot of Elizabethan Speech and mannerisms to is you my lord We have found the thunder God my heart is gladdened at the very sight of thee for thou art to who I hold most dear Take heed mighty one. We have come to warn thee of danger most deadly And these are all his good friends up there in Asgard Yeah And of course they they were too cheap to get this door Come the hither be the God What's that thou did not do such a thing? That's right feel my wrath Now let's since we talked about mighty playboys and guys like that. Let's talk about iron man Iron man the the playboy of the Marvel universe playboy, and he is actually industrialist Tony Stark Tony Stark who was the head of the start corporation surprisingly enough. It's kind of like Wayne Enterprises Basically his whole problem here is he was this industrialist and he got invited to oh God invited to the Southeast Asian area during during kind of during these of Vietnam conflict there and He was over there doing some things and by golly some communists came in and captured him And so they took him off to their little communist hideout place there in the jungle He was there and he was working with this one older Oriental guy on a Honest suit and he was he was pretty much dying too because they had shot him He had shot him kind of close to the heart or something there. So he was working with this guy on this suit and They decided well, they're gonna get back at those communist guys So they made this suit of armor and Tony Stark got in it because it would help him to survive with his heart problems and everything and it was a big old iron suit big gray iron suit and He put it on and he went and he defeated the communist guys Then he pretty much had to stay in the suit because he got out of it. He would die pretty much and so He had to stay in there until he got his heart heart worked on and he got that problem figured out and by golly Then his girlfriend comes along and shoots him and so now he's paralyzed and he had to get a chip in his spine And he had to wear a suit again all the time and he's basically spending most of his billions Just trying to keep himself trying to keep the suit going there. That's that's pretty much iron man story there Along with Jim roadie roads his faithful sidekick and helper and bodyguard and sometimes iron man They go along and they fight industrial crime wherever they find it Let's move on let's move out into space where you've got a Well, you had a bad guy Galactus who was the world leader he would come along and he'd find a planet and he would suck it dry and Eat up all its nutrients and everything and he had targeted earth as his next planet to come into vourer And he said along his hair old to make sure he could do so his hair old the silver Here we have silver here we have real silver And basically he came to earth and he had to take he had to tangle with the fantastic for and find out that well Earth was full of worthy beings and Galactus couldn't eat it And so the silver server ended up staying here and becoming kind of earth's protector against me. I'm galactic wrongdoing There you go The silver server dude Anyway, no silver server dude You know by golly and we might need no, no, let's let's keep going. What's the heck? Who else we got we talked about the fantastic for basically read Richard when he was in school He he had this um this guy that was just about as smart as he was named Victor von doom Victor von doom the guy who is pretty much his name is pretty much Depth and Yeah, by golly, you don't become mr. Philanthropist with a name like Victor von doom He's from like the upper lower eastern middle European mania And that's basically his residence now because while he was there in college He decided to try this experiment to try to put him in touch with oh Anything that we can't really see He's a bull in the whole place up Himself included and so he takes a hiatus to the Himalayas and this this this This group of monks take him in and they fashion a mask or him to wear because his face And his whole look there is pretty much beat up and they create an iron mask for him And he becomes not just Victor von doom. He is now doctor And he's like the nemesis of the whole Marvel universe, but mostly the fantastic for Okay, so that's him that's pretty much that Let's see. We probably don't have time for one more although There's still um who we got there's doctor octopus who got these arms grafted onto him doing the scientific experiment And now he's after spider-man all the time or there's there's the the green goblin who Doesn't always look like this. He's actually a guy under this suit, but um He had on the suit one time. Well, no, he didn't have the suit on he got caught in some kind of a big experiment Something he was doing himself, you know, yeah Happens all the time It kind of warped his brain. So he's after spider-man all the time now. Yeah, and then he died Of course then there's talking about the big V this spider-man's big here a big enemy Venom who inherited spider-man's old black suit and he They've just got a thing against spider-man because basically he ruined both of their lives this is not this one being this is two beings and He's after spider-man because he's ruined both of their lives for us. Well, that's pretty much all of that. So Next time I guess we'll have to continue with this because we're out of time now I can tell you more about this That's interesting I This one Anyway during the secret wars where a bunch of heroes were zipped up off earth and a bunch of bad guys were zipped up I'm pretty much taken pretty much rip off the crisis on infinite earth from DC We're done about the same time and they did have a brainstorming sense. They say well, we've got to do something like that Let's take a bunch of you And they'll fight each other take them to a place where nobody's ever heard And we'll do a big 12-issue thing off of it Yeah And basically I'm during the secret war spider-man suit get suit spider-man suit get ripped up So he goes to get a new New suit machine, but nobody told him which machine was the new suit machine So when he goes into the room, it's a button and a black ball He goes over to it and it molds itself onto his body, and it's a cool new black suit Yeah, and it does everything He doesn't even need to fill up the web cartridges because they're just built in there and it makes its own webbing So um, he takes it back to earth because um, it's cool And all he has to do is think and it'll just become normal close to and he doesn't even take the suit off all the time It's great, and if he does want to it'll just kind of mold itself off of him and then it'll come back Which is cool. So easy goes around like that and then um He's starting to feel tired and run down all the time. He doesn't know what's happening What's happening is at night when he goes to sleep the suit gets back on him And it animates his body and makes him go out and swing around and do all the stuff He does during the day And he gets back home and then it's time to wake up and go back to classes and so he just doesn't know what's going on So he finally figures out that it's the suit doing it. The suit made him do it And so um, he goes and Spider-Man goes and sees his good buddy Reed Richard and Reed Richard says Well, let me think about this Let me think some more Okay, basically Well, we'll do some tests and we'll find out what's wrong And so they put him into a sound ring room and tried they try everything on it and finally figure out that sound affects the suit so they figure if they blab bombard it with enough sound the suit will leave There's something try that and it's too much sound because it almost kills spider-man too But they do have the suit off of him and they keep it they house it But the suit gets out and it goes out there and find spider-man again And so spider-man he goes to this church and he rings the bell loud enough to back the suit off And then he goes back and so the suits the suits just up their days because it's actually an alien symbiote That's been living off of him draining his energy in there so Me in the meantime as a reporter because we all know that Peter Parker works for the daily plant that daily bugle bugle Excuse me almost I'm right over from Marvel the DC although they did do a big thing work. Yeah, they did anyway. That's right Anyway, he um He works for one paper and there's a reporter named Eddie Brock who works for another paper and a Brock is working on his big story about this Sanita guy who's been going around and killing people and He's gotten he's getting information from this guy He says yeah, I'm a senior and he keeps sending him information And so Eddie's writing him up and doing his big story the big thing and it's a real big story And everybody's following it and everything and then he finally exposes who the person is Meanwhile spider-man goes out and he happens upon the real Saint Peter and so he brings him into justice and It's like uh-oh Eddie Brock story has been discredited. Oh Eddie Brock loses his job And so he's going moping around he ends up at the church where the alien suit is He's got something against spider-man because fireman ends his career The aliens who's got something against spider-man because spider-man left him alone to die basically the aliens who graphs on the Eddie Brock And he becomes venom Mmm That's like every time you see venom he gets bigger And his mouth keeps getting wider and wider And he gets nastier and nastier and nastier and keeps coming after spider-man So they they caught him and they put him in the vault, which is like Marvel's big Super containment Prison for super power of the Marvel Universe, but he is getting away And so now in the continuity basically venom is trying to reform and turn over a new leaf saying well I Don't like spider-man, but I can't hold it against him that he did this to me So he's trying to he's trying to be good, but every time he gets out there people say hey, you're venom And so they you're a bad guy. They just get after him He ends up having to hurt people, but he won't hurt the innocent He'll only hurt the guilty which makes him sound kind of like the punisher. That's guy The punisher who's always after the guilty That's right the punisher and hey you gotta look at them their suits kind of dare the black with white on them that's similar Okay Okay, well anyway, I guess too bad because next time we're going to talk about the about the Three of cable okay three of cable television and then next time on the next comic book version we go into more Marvel stuff That's right Oh