 everybody welcome back to esoteric Atlanta I'm here with my southern sister Angie and this is the last minute episode we're gonna be doing kind of a Thanksgiving special today how you do an Angie with your ring I'm good I'm really good I've been working on a bunch of recipes I'm trying to I'm really not a big fan of Thanksgiving food but so I'm trying to trying to create some things that are more suited to people that just don't like it because like this year we're not even doing the whole like family dinner thing like we're going out somewhere we're going to Helen Georgia but we're gonna go eat German food those who don't know what Helen Georgia is Helen Georgia is a trip it's like you wander into a totally different dimension when you go into Helen Georgia Helen Georgia is like a little German town in the middle of northern Georgia and let me just tell y'all y'all who are not from America are not from the southeast when you look at the settlement of the United States that we're believing what the controllers tell us the northeast is more Italian heavy Irish the southeast is predominantly English and the New Orleans is French and Spanish so the fact that they're that's why everybody all of us like Angie's last name is Tillman my last name is Watson that's why I grew up with a lot of Thomas's Johnson's that's why we all have very English sounding our maiden name was Burnham like Burnham yeah and actually I've watched this fascinating video about the American accents and I I knew this from college when I when I studied diphthongs in college at the like if you look back at Shakespearean times that the shake the actual proper Shakespearean accent would be a southern American accent but that was how they spoke back then was a southern American accent like a like a like a nice not like a Hickey accent but like a nice like a Scarlett O'Hara uh-huh by the way our friend Jessica speaks right very nice southern accent how y'all do and you know that was it it evolved and as we separated it started to the accents and the languages started to change so I thought that was fascinating and so the fact that there's a little German and I have a lot of German in me as well I have um my the Stroms my grandmother was a strong that's German my great grandmother my dad's dad's mom's family immigrated from Germany so did my dad's um dad's but dad's mom's dad immigrated from Germany right actually he's actually the table I'm sitting at right now he built this table and he he was an inventor he invented the futon sofa he had the patent for it yeah oh wow cool Conrad Conrad Passara yeah it was um a lot of Germans came over right before world war one I think they kind of saw the writing on the wall and were like what I'm just gonna mosey on out of here before world war one broke out so now my three of his girls he never had boys but so all three of his girls are Gertrude Margaret and Olivia so it's all like very German very German my uh my the Stroms my other German line they came like in the 1600s so they've been here for a while but but it's very my both sides of my family the blonde hair the blue eyes are very dominant um but actually both sides of my family it's all blue white people there's no no brown eyed people at all so but you see that and so Helen Georgia the first time I went to Helen Georgia I was actually it was for my sister's bachelorette party and I drove up separately and so I was in my little Jetta at the time my Volkswagen Jetta and I missed a turn and I ended up like downtown to Helen and I it was during like it was like a biker's convention and I was like what the hell kind of time warp is this what dimension did I slip into I had no idea because we just never went there we I don't have I don't have really have Georgia roots the only Georgia roots I have equipment which is down in the south Georgia all my my mom's family and my dad's dad's family are not from Georgia so we didn't spend a whole lot of time like when we we had time off school we were typically in South Carolina on the beach in the low country with my mom's family so and there's kind of that I will say I think you kind of know like in in the southeast like you have these kind of like almost snobberies within states like rivalries yes and my mom's family it was very important very important that we knew that we were a low country we were not we were not Georgian even though my dad's mother is from Georgia but we were a low country we were South Carolina that was we were we were a Charlestonian like that was very like I didn't even go my first trip to Savannah Georgia I was an adult and Savannah is very close to Charleston but it's because if you're from Charleston you don't go to Savannah uh-uh it's crashing compared to Charleston I'm gonna be there next week I love Savannah but the first time I went to Savannah I was like I don't care how trashy they think this is this place is fun like I love Savannah I'm hoping to take Rosie to some of the places um you know kind of around the midnight in the garden a good oh I did a whole I have a whole series you guys I will put that in the description box I have a whole Savannah series um and I covered you know we should do Angie I'm we should talk to Jessica we should plan a girls trip to Savannah yeah and go and to that house I freaking love Savannah it's close only like three hours from me probably closer to you hours it takes me four hours oh really I'm only like three hours with Atlanta I guess because we hop right on 20 maybe writing the right into no it's 16 what you go I go 75 to make it and make it a turn and go 16 all the way to the coast yeah um and it's right there so Savannah's technically for you guys who are not familiar with the south Charleston is a coastal town New Orleans is a coastal town but Savannah is technically considered a river town yeah it's funny they have a river street which um I will say river street now is like very touristy they have great restaurants it's right on the river and I remember I was there with friends once and we were sitting at a restaurant I remember thinking this was where all the brothels were yeah that night we went on a ghost tour in Savannah and the guy was like this where the brothels were and I was like maybe I was maybe I was peddling some some sex work back in those days and that's how I knew it but yeah it was where all the boats would come in so the the the brothels were there but it's weird it's a it's a river town because the beach is like it's pretty coastal too yeah yeah it is because you have Tabby Island right out on it so yeah on the beach but like the the coast is there but I guess the town faces more towards the savannah river it's but y'all if you're ever in savannah like the and I will say midnight so midnight in the garden of good and evil that block that then was made into a movie during that time when that guy the guy that was was charged with the murder you guys will have to watch the movie if you read the book and it's based on a true story that guy was a designer they had savannah was so rough at that point they were starting to bring in or these designers were coming in and like revamping the old antebellum homes try to like bring the city back to life with all the historic stuff there kind of like the way charlson is very pristine and its preservation of history and there is a saying I've said it before the three sisters of the south charlson is considered the beautiful sister savannah's considered the dirty sister and new orleans is the wicked sister and those are the three three sisters of the south and but savannah's fun it's fun has rosie ever been there she has but never like this so it's just going to be the two of us and I really wanted to do something completely different you know and we're going to do some shopping of course because you know she's going she wants to go shopping she's 17 but um but I want to take her to cemeteries and and I've got I actually know one of the family members of the guy from midnight in the garden of nearly and so she's telling me all the places to go and we're going to get to go on some free tours I think so just there's a history to the house of you again if you guys go to my uh scandal of savannah series before that murder happened in that house there was already um stuff with that house which is most of the houses in in these old old cities I mean savannah was a city built on the debt so it's it's um especially when uh uh was a yellow fever went through and killed a bunch of people and I tell you something really freaky about the low country so the low country for those who don't know what that is that's the coast of Georgia and like southern or southern south South Carolina it's consistent drops is where they had a lot of rice plantations back in the day and so when you're driving east towards the coast you get to a certain point where you feel the land just dropped down and so the soil obviously is very different now my ancestors on my mom's side of the family they immigrated on boats allegedly over here landed in what was called charles town then now it's charles done and we're like we're good we're just going to stay here for the next 300 years they just did not leave they got you know through that long journey they just kind of stayed put in in these this town but um something that's freaky you can tell rosy because this is bad this is a they have a problem with this in savannah and this is another reason why I want to be cremated when they buried bodies because of the land like if you were tried to we here in savannah today and you were going to try to exhume a body from like the 1700s and you went to dig it up at its barrel plot the body is not going to be there yeah they moved with the because of the tide and the sand they moved so you could like be renovating your basement and drill a hole and all this one of my friends is buried right like in in bonaventure cemetery and and he's buried right there kind of like right on the water like oh he ain't there anymore he's not there anymore he's gone he's gone i'm not gonna find out but i mean in his funeral we actually all like shovel dirt into the grave i mean you know so you can like why are we gonna do this he's gonna be out to sea soon like man versus nature nature always wins i hope he had a good casket because man the bonaventure that's it i actually covered bonaventure in a lot of stories um were they in i can't when they did the whole uh voodoo uh voodoo with benign were they in bonaventure cemetery i can't think so yes the statue the famous statue mm-hmm is not there anymore they had to move it but it was in bonaventure um cemetery because after the book came out then after the movie was released everyone was coming to savannah to see it and that statue just got completely they had to remove it into a um a museum in order to preserve it but oh my god there's so many crazy it's like it's all like oakland cemetery here in atlanta there's so many stories of hauntings and just really interest you'll that this is one of the cemeteries in south you'll go to and people will have left like food out for their loved ones try to appease them um liquor bottles like full liquor bottles are listen you better believe me some liquor bottles when i'm dead and gone um you know it's it's and the more i work with people andy from other parts of the world i realize that's very unique to the south mm-hmm actually this picture behind me on the wall that's that's a place down in the low country it's called groat implantation um yeah in the middle of nowhere in south carolina bretton's carolina um but yeah a friend of mine who lives in savannah actually painted that and anyway yep that's a big thing to do in the south too that we paint our houses mm-hmm that's a really big thing to do my mom's the house my mom grew up in my mother has there were multiple portraits of that house and my mom has one my my aunts and they hang them in their house since my uh the uh the house marianne my grandmother marianne grew up in in equipment she had a painting of it in her house and houses have names a lot i think it's a very english thing to do though i think that comes primarily from the english but we would name our houses my house had i have a name for my house what's it called the cattle gap the cattle gap yeah when you when you pull into my driveway you drive over like an old like oh like a whole oh wow yeah that's and so i call it the cattle gap and i'll check in there a lot on instagram or facebook and i've had people go is that a restaurant or something i might know she's my house what's it like you think about gone with the wind tattara the the moment they had that they had the name for their plantation that was very normal back back in those days um have you ever been out to barnsley gardens angie in adairsville uh-huh but gone with the wind is based off of my sister right out there it's we should go out i mean i don't okay when i was a kid barnsley gardens that's allegedly that's the family that um margaret uh what was her name my mind's gone blank the lady who wrote gone with the wind michael that's it margaret michael she's buried here in atlanta at an oakland cemetery uh apparently she based the uh the ohara family off of the barnsleys that's what they say when i was a kid it was just the ruins because the house burnt down and we would go on a field trip to see the ruins of this old plantation but since then since i was a child that was a really long time ago um a prince from somewhere bought it and like turned it into this like really swanky resort really swanky and so you have to pay to get in now and they really like my sister got married like in the ruins they kept the gardens really nice and yeah it's in adairsville georgia which is just up 75 from atlanta but it makes sense with the story because you remember when she goes to atlanta atlanta burns down and you know adairsville is probably about what like an hour outside of atlanta north of atlanta heading towards chattanooga so in a car for us today now you think about that backward forces and buggies would have been a lot longer of a of a ride into atlanta from and then ret but look i'll tell you guys a really funny story he was from trawl since south carolina ret butler her yes um frankly my dear i don't give a damn um he so he's a fictional character i mean not a real character and when i was at my high school which was a private boarding and day school there was a boarding student who was also from charleston and she lived right there her parents lived right there in the battery like right where all the old houses are and she said in the summertime for fun her and her cousins would take like a piece of construction paper with a sharpie and right ret butler slept here and stick it in the window and see how many tourists would come knock on their door the mama's door to take a picture there's a guy here in town his name is ret butler oh wow yeah his parents did not do him a favor no i'm just kidding ret butler was the swabbest of all the men in that he was so bad so bad that she just wanted him like he was sexy because you know like that scene where he says something like um you need to be kissed or something like that and kissed he was in love with ashley ashley the man ashley who married his cousin um yeah it's it's uh that's a very scandalous story i mean your cousin con and so and then she had this like very passionate relationship but then he just like left her at the end because yeah yeah it's it's it's a it's a classic if y'all have nothing going with the wind you'll see why angie and i are the way we are if you watch going with the wind yeah you will i'm saying we're seen too is when she's holding the bed post and the slayers like pulling tight and shing her waist yeah i'm really gonna need it after thanksgiving i've been cooking and cooking and cooking and um just trying to work on different things i'm giving it to friends that are like by themselves um so yeah that should we bring that because i mean listen honey we still are our spanks are from atlanta like yes if y'all don't know it's spanks or that's like the modern-day girdle i gotta be fair of spanks my mama's got some we all got spanks and they're from atlanta so yeah they're awful it's horrible you can't believe i know i don't i don't get it because i've tried to wear them and i'm like it's just not i can't it's awful i'd rather wear baggy stuff so i can eat as my grandma my mama's mama would say proud there's no pain like beauty is pain suck it up put that girdle on and i never saw my grandma maxi my mom's mom i never saw her without high heels on i never saw her without a dress on i never saw her without her pearls on she her nails and now i respect that about her we're always perfectly painted she never had ship nails like she was horrible no i'm like well i'm gonna go out of town i'm gonna have all fresh nails when i go but yes i don't have any on right now my grandmother would sit i remember her she would sit at her vanity and like touch her nails up every single morning she would touch her nails up and when i would spend the night with her when i was a little kid my grandfather died when i was four um so then i would when i would spend the night with her i would sleep in the bed with her um as a child and when he was alive i remember sleeping in the middle of them but she would wear i think about this today she would wear the most elegant nightgowns like beautifully embroidered nightgowns with like matching silk robes i'm kind of like that price i'm always in like i stay home a lot you know work out of my house a lot and i'm pretty much always in like silky like pajama sets and gowns and things i don't know what where i get it from because i don't really i really don't know oh my grandma would be so proud of you she she would wear i mean i i've gotten better i used to sleep in like baggy t-shirts and granny panties i've gotten better about it mm-hmm they're my boyfriend's very happy about that but i've got about wearing actual pajamas but no she i mean she was like done up every night yeah i mean i walk down up and down the road here people see me all the time in my pajamas just my gowns and things well she didn't do that and i will say there was one time i told this story i forgot who i think i'd just say this with you and jessica with the pigly wiggly yeah she did yep oh my mama was so upset when i gone to that pigly wiggle sweaty like in the south in that my grandmother's generation like you even if you were going to go to the grocery store you wear your hat and your gloves and your pearls yeah oh oh how the mighty have fallen yes well and now you know living in a college town there's college kids are always in their pajama bottoms and slippers even at the kroger you know and so he's kind of i don't know you just it rose always really gets yeah she's always in like a tank top and pajama pants and uh slippers it's so different it's so different but speaking of the southern ladies the old southern stuff this is where we get a lot of our thanksgiving and dishes and i think it's a good time to celebrate like the southern dishes and last week on aquarius solutions when we're doing the sofia code of closing it up i started talking about a dish called pineapple casserole which is one of the biggest southern dishes at thanksgiving you guys and everybody was going off in the comment section now i will say angie food is one thing we are known for here in the south correct yes yes i mean when i first started my company i would do hashtag foodies like that was what i put on everything all over twitter because everybody's all you know it's food food food it's kind of a very gluttonous area yes we have soul food too i it's considered soul food and i don't know where we get it from in the south because i'm just going to be frank since we all are of most of us are very english and our descent english is not known for their food it's very very bland it's not they're not known for their food at all i lived in england i never had so many stomach problems in my life like it was it's awful the food is terrible in england and then we our ancestors immigrated over here maybe it's because we just have access to better produce because the weather is better down here i don't know but pineapple casserole is one of and you're right i will say angie when you said about like thanksgiving foods that people like when i was a kid i hated thanksgiving because i hated the food i hated all the casseroles i hated it i just wanted desserts yeah and now i think people are being a little bit more sensitive to um to that and pineapple casserole is something most kids really do like because it's very it's sweet and savory it's um pineapple wristcrackers sugar sharp cheddar cheese butter that's about it right oh good it's right up there with with pear salad oh yeah yeah tell people what pear i talked about and i forgot the the sharp cheddar cheese tell people what i was talking about that on uh aquarius rising africa what's pear salad for our just canned pears you know in the cans they come they're they're halfed without the seed in the middle without the stone part and you just lay them out on a platter and then you put a dollop of mayonnaise and then sprinkle with cheddar cheese shredded cheese and um it's so it's a salty savory and it's cheap and it's every time i make it nobody eats it but me it's old school southern yeah it's old school southern so there that's what it looks like you guys yeah um it's it's um it's old school southern um so yeah leaf or leaves of lettuce be it iceberg or plain jane romaine a long pear half and a can one of that so it's canned yeah you have to use can even somebody asked me can you use a real pear and even my boyfriend was like no you have to and he's so organic he was like no for a pear salad tell him i do i do kind of a fancier version of it sometimes and i'll do like blue cheese crumbles on a fresh pear so wow okay yeah so and it's delicious i do that sometimes this is so quick and easy like if you've got like coming over and you can just quickly pop open a can of pear while on top of mayonnaise put some shredded cheddar and a cherry on top on top of lettuce and boom there you go um and my favorite was someone was like every time my mom pulled out a pear salad i knew the preacher was coming over uh-huh uh-huh what else well i know jessica was talking about um hash brown castor roll which is something you don't make you want to talk a little bit about that angie i'll never make that either but it sounded delicious i love potatoes i know me too i'm pulling it up right now so hash brown so you even have cracker rails cracker barrel has a recipe let's see if uh here's let's do southern living didn't she say that's the recipe she uses i think the cracker barrel one i just pulled up southern loving because that's like the more notorious um and guys i'm going to share all these recipe links in the description box below so if you want to try these recipes you're welcome to especially for our friends who are not from the united states or who are not from the south and have never heard of of this stuff so hash brown castor roll is easy cheesy and totally delicious this simple castor roll is made easy with frozen hash browns so copycat cracker barrel hash brown castor roll just eats five minutes of prep time making it a great side or potluck dinner uh dish this is a perfect breakfast castor roll i say that about pineapple castor roll because pineapple castor i've heard of people doing this or i've actually tasted it before with were they used to frozen tater tots yeah that's what well actually Todd's gonna he's gonna make some of this stuff so he actually went and got the recipe and got i saw that we have a bag of frozen tater tots in our yep um i my friends and not i told angie it might be comical one day if she tried to teach me to cook because i just don't know i'm not that i'm good at many things in this world cooking is not one of them um so yeah that's the hash brown castor roll i also wanted to talk about before we get into some of your stories angie let's talk a minute about sweet tea yes i'm always asked to bring the sweet tea i make really good sweet tea and i'll do it in the microwave well okay so i follow this guy this english guy on instagram he's hysterical and he spent like three months touring around the united states and made these hysterical videos and he just got back to the united kingdom and he made a video of what americans do better and one of the things was his last thing he said i'm so sorry to say this to my fellow brits but the southern americans do tea way better than we do and i happen to agree with him we don't hot tea is not i know you love your teapots but it's not common here is it there's no it's not you're not going to go to a restaurant and have options to get hot tea unless it's like a chinese restaurant maybe right you're not going to go to your friend's house and and have your friend put the kettle on like that's not going to happen in the south why is it not going to happen it's too damn hot most of the time it is literally too hot to drink hot tea in the middle of the afternoon here in the south it's just not i mean i have to ask my aunt kathy about this because she used to have a tea room down in leesburg georgia it was called sip of grace it's not there anymore it burned down years ago but and i wonder because when i went to it with my both of my grandmas i took both from each side we went and had tea there we did do the hot tea but i have a feeling that a lot of the people that went there probably just asked for sweet tea yeah if you so if you go to a restaurant here in the south and you and you ask for tea they're going to ask you sweet or unsweet it's going to be ice it's going to be cold it's not going to be in a it's going to be in a glass with ice you're in that lemon lemon and usually people say a sweet tea right they'll usually say that and that's just what's expected nobody in most restaurants are going to even think it's like you know i was a kid i remember somebody came in our fifth grade class and was talking to us about sense memory and they asked the kid they asked us to write down or draw i can't remember was draw or write down we're like in the fifth grade the guy said certain words and he said to write down or draw what we see and one of those was ski and almost everyone like drew water skis on a lake like nobody drew skis in the snow and so it's that sense memory so if you're from the south or if you come to visit in the south if you're from another country especially england where you drink a lot of tea and you come visit charleston or savannah or new Orleans and you go to a restaurant and you want tea they're going to bring you ice sweet tea and it's really really good it's really refreshing and my grandma in sylvester gertrude her tea was like syrup it was so sweet i don't know if she put two cups of sugar in that two quart container or what but it was just like syrup or syrup yeah it's um i don't put that much sugar in mine i do like um a little less than than a cup of sugar to two quarts um tea liptin iced tea family size bags yeah microwave four minutes with um about four cups of water and then you know just oh yeah almost a cup of sugar and then i just fill up the rest of the the pitcher with water it's perfect every time it's sweet tea is regarded as an important regional staple in the cuisine of the southern united states so it's a staple oh my grandparents every time we go to my grandparents house there was always a picture of tea like it's never there was never not a picture of sweet tea now my my dad's mom who was from quitman the south georgia they make their sweet tea a little bit different they put pineapple juice in their sweet tea that yeah sweet tea always tasted very different from my other grandmothers there's a restaurant here in town in Athens i think that does that they have pineapple juice it's from south georgia and i actually i've never made sweet tea because y'all don't even really know how to boil an egg so but i've been trying to find because my grandmother is no longer alive my grandfather and my grandmother and i've been trying to find her recipe for sweet tea just to have it because it's so unique it's not what you have in a typical um a typical southern and she did something so oh that's one thing i want to talk about angie because people who are not from the south don't seem to understand what our biscuits are they all think that what what right our scones well i've got the biscuit queens book right here this is natalie dupree's book when i was growing up i don't know which way it goes anyway mastering the art of southern cooking it's a huge book maybe heavy and big years ago i was sitting well first of all when i was a child this was the first tv cook that i ever watched she and justin wilson justin wilson did the like new Orleans style food and natalie did more of like she was in georgia she was um she's have a restaurant here called the blue willow in social circle georgia and now she lives up in like riley durham area but she lived in charleston for several several years also 100 queen street i can say the address now because she's not there anymore but so i grew up watching her and i dreamed of being natalie dupree i always wanted my own cooking show and i was just gonna be just like natalie dupree i would pretend like a lot of girls would like pretend they're teachers playing school or mamas i pretended that i was a tv cook and i was this was before the channel right where you you're gonna cook right and this was um this was um the four food network you know because i watched her on gp tv yeah and she made such a massive flower because she was always making biscuits and so my best friend who meg who died in 2016 got her recipe from natalie dupree with her biscuits and she called them biscuits because she would make them small and everybody loved her biscuits you know and so and she'd serve them with peach fluff but um anyway yeah i've got natalie pre stuff right here she says in here she's like the just i'll just read like a little short clip biscuits are the quintessential quick quintessential southern bread they come in all shapes and sizes whether delicately holding a bit of jam or butter or sturdily encasing ham we dream about them praise them in stories legends and song and bake endless variations and there's so many different versions in this book but um so i'm planning on going to visit her she says she wants me to come and stay with her and she's going to teach me how to make biscuits i never i've never made them from scratch no my mama never i mean my mom all really didn't cook that much either but my mother would just get pop them out of the can that you can get the big wiggly and but my grandmother's boy like my grandmother from south george would make drop biscuits where she i would watch her make it she would make it and she would drop them and let them splatter on the um the cook the cooking sheets where friends most of them around and so angie let's make this very clear with our friends from overseas they're not stones they're not and i i thought so many people say that they like kind of it's like they don't think i know what i'm talking about y'all we have scones down here in the south scones exist down here biscuits are not scones they're totally different and i have i've been fortunate enough my life to literally travel the world multiple times the united states is the only place where i've ever experienced biscuits biscuits are not sweets they're very savory um they're very buttery and and and that's what she was saying yeah you can put jam you can eat a biscuit plain and it's just as good a butter are you jamming it people can put great you put gravy on them um i don't eat meat but some people put like ham and and um bacon in them um i'm just going to show you guys some so angie when we get off will you send me a good recipe or link to the yeah i'll put it in the description box so people can like if they want to play with this so yeah these are the so that's what my mama would buy she would just pop it open and biscuits y'all the english called cookies biscuits biscuits are cookies are not biscuits are totally different a totally different thing here in in the south this is more like the biscuits i'm talking about like this is yes scones they're not even a vodka brand called cathead because there's like cathead um biscuits are a big thing and they're cute yeah they're flaky too they're not like scones can be a little bit hard biscuits are very flaky if a biscuit's hard you burnt it like that's not good it's very it's very flaky um you know and they're different from roles too um the roles are very very different as well i'm trying to look um oh here's a southern living have a recipe i'm shocked southern living did not come up with a recipe for biscuits but here's the first recipe that came up the first perfect mom on time out the perfect homemade biscuits every time um let me share a screen here i'll put this down in the i don't know if this recipe is good or not but it's the first one that popped up and um yeah that's not sweet that's butter y'all it's not uh we know what we're talking about we're from the south we have scones in the south the skits are not scones and they can be eaten at breakfast lunch and dinner they're for all you know all all meals right there's only with some bad it is so i mean i don't eat i guess i don't eat but i hear that chick belays breakfast biscuit with the chicken is really good people love yeah actually i'll pull that up so you guys can see what i'm talking about maybe it's good price it is it's real good if you see the um the chicken in it maybe you'll understand that it's not a upping stone a scone that people see they just don't want to accept that a biscuit is its own thing chick belay breakfast biscuit biscuit okay biscuit sand whoops not price i'm going to do sandwich okay let's just do images here i even had two hats whenever i was about like 14 i remember getting these two kittens and i named one biscuit and one gravy yeah yeah look yeah look at this guy so that's egg sausage cheese we would not put that in a scone like this it's a it's a it's not sweet they're not sweet they're savory um that's a typical biscuits in the south that's a morning breakfast biscuit right there with a slab of chicken in the middle um it's kind of fun the other thing about thanksgiving too the other like we've got the biscuit in the scone that that's completely different but also the difference between dressing and stuffing yes yeah what are all the things that we do differently down here in the south so go ahead difference between dressing and stuffing yeah so dressing is um and the way i understand it is here in the south you know it's you never know what the weather is going to be like on thanksgiving and you've got that turkey you've cooked and you stuff it with like a bread mixture it's like bread you know stuffing um well in the south a lot of times like this would be left out and the the bacteria from the turkey would not stay at the right temperature long enough or whatever and then people would get sick from that i think i've heard this story before i just remember somebody tell me that's gonna be warm on thanksgiving then on thursday like yeah so then people started putting it you know just doing it in a casserole dish yeah instead of stuffing the turkey yeah we don't put our we don't put it inside the turkey down here um someone from the north and i were talking about that i was like no we don't we don't do that no you guys the north realize like i honestly can't do that anyway it just like cracks me up because i'm like our north or like i go in the north it snows in the winter like i know what the weather is like in the north but do people in the north don't understand like we're the sun belts like we we're that's actually what we're called like that's actually our this whole belt from like texas all the way to like south carolina is considered like the sun belts i mean we were talking about andy like christmas is where we're in shorts and yeah yeah i think the last time we filmed before we went on record we were talking about this my great-grandmother risked her soul she lived out in oregon and one year she knitted these toilet paper roll covers for everybody in the family they look like hats like toboggan's you know like like a like a little ski hat with a little fluff thing on the top and she put like eyes on them and like they had bases and she got so upset because we took a family picture of all of us together and we were all in shorts i just remember we were all in shorts it was hot on christmas day and all benny jordan or sylvester that um and we put the hats these things on top of our head and she was so upset because she was like they're not hats they're for the toilet paper rolls but but we were just funny because it was so hot and they looked like hat like so anyway sad yeah they're all in shorts on christmas day absolutely absolutely welcome to the south we don't know white christmas is down here thank god for that could you imagine though if we got like a snow storm over chris ever the power would shut off uh-huh there would be no milk in the grocery i mean kids would have a miserable if it could they wouldn't be able and the thing about it when when the few times it has snowed down here because we don't have like you know in some places where it snows heavily they put the power lines under the ground we don't have that here so when we do have a freak storm power lines get pulled down and so that means that most of time kids can't really even go outside and play unless they have an adult there to make sure there's no power lines for them to accidentally step on and so that would not be good for our little tillings i mean i i have like i last year i went and bought gloves i don't think i've ever i mean i have ski gloves from we used to go to colorado to ski but i don't think i've ever purchased gloves for the winter like there's been no there's no need for gloves like it's just not necessary here and um yeah and that's kind of give it that that that the fact that we live in the sunbelt does inform the way our culture has developed around ice tea versus hot tea uh-huh dressing versus stuffing what is it what do they call a sweet potato casserole what what is that called up north that's called something different no i don't know is it york shower pudding or something like that is that something no um is that that's like a bread pudding i think sweet potato what is sweet potato casserole what is sweet potato casserole so i know it's called yams they're called yams yams yams and we call them sweet potatoes down here but sweet potatoes i am not a huge sweet potato casserole is a staple in the sense the south but i am actually not i think we talked about this didn't we and she's yeah the sweet potato is already sweet don't add sugar and marshmallows to it but that's what they do i'm like no i'm trying to find potato i just want butter salt pepper that's well i i was thinking southern living would have a recipe but i don't see that so sweet potato so whenever sweet potato casserole is presented i usually get a glob of it and then i eat the marshmallows off the top so you like the sweet stuff i can't oh this one doesn't have marshmallows okay hold on let me go back and find one that does have marshmallows because marshmallows like that's the southern way to do it isn't it with the marshmallows on top i know you love it i see i can't eat the marshmallows off of it but you're right the marshmallows with the sweet potatoes to me is not a good combination so i can't get the picture job oh here it is okay here it is i'm on my laptop which is not the greatest step pulling up pictures here we go so they put pecans on it as well sweet potatoes so i would just eat the whole marshmallows off the top of it i do the same with pecan pie though uh-huh i just i scraped the pecans off the top and just eat the gooey stuff i'm like a five-year-old yes that's worry i still do this um what i was very much like savory savory savory like right here i was trying to perfect i'm not i really i don't really like green bean casserole oh i don't either yeah it's usually made with like a can of cream and mushroom soup from camels and you know it's a staple at everything's getting but i mean i did this like i'm like like green beans with like slivered almonds but i do mine y'all with sauteed mushrooms and see if you can see them and that's a good year so it's that's a mushroom and i do like um pine nuts instead of um almonds these are these are toasted pine nuts and just sauteed green beans and then i instead of buying the can of those fried onions that people put on top i take a shallot and just thinly sliced it and just fry it for just less than a minute and it's delicious but that's what and then sometimes i'll sprinkle like Parmesan cheese on top just but that's that's how i make my green beans well you send me your recipe i'm gonna put um here camels actually has a green bean casserole recipe here um so i'm gonna show people what you're talking about who aren't familiar what it traditionally kind of looks like because yours looks way better but yeah that's traditionally green bean casserole why do you think people started making casseroles at Thanksgiving and Christmas instead of just making green beans beans and potatoes and why i do a steamed artichoke so i i do that's another thing i like to do for i'll i'll send you some pictures brice that you can use on the here but um if you want to i um i like to steam an artichoke and just have that kind of oh yeah yeah yeah and i do a sage butter because you know sage is a is an herb that is used in a lot of Thanksgiving traditional Thanksgiving meals like especially the the dressing or the stuffing will have that sage and a lot of people use rosemary i'm allergic to rosemary but um i use a lot of sage um yeah like the other night i was just you know kind of doing this for a friend and i'm kind of a little friend's giving thing and we did like steamed artichoke with sage butter um you don't have to have meat you don't have to eat i mean with all the casseroles people bring too i mean i am actually my boyfriend i were talking about this morning um and how miserable Friday morning is gonna be yeah because i'm doing a festival Friday morning so i i mean i'm gonna you know i've got to be a blue that's when you got to get you some spanks yeah but it's it's heavy food isn't it it's like it's supposed to be heavy it's supposed to be like a feast it's not supposed to be a meal it's supposed to be a feast i will say i prefer with my family actually prefer the um orders yes that they have now of course with my family usually while we're waiting to eat that's when people are getting like rip roaring drunk because as Angie taught me i guess that's what Presbyterians do yeah well for me back whenever i was complying and going to places i didn't want to go to for Thanksgiving i don't do that anymore but back then i would carry in a Bloody Mary because i was going to eat some kind of spirit in me you know i love listen i would my so every family member of mine has a bar in their house that's very isn't that normal in the south isn't it Angie there's bars in their house very normal or though you'll you'll walk into someone's house it might not be a full bar but there might be like a lot that well really nice people open it and there's like a bar there um and so i'll drink my rum and my cranberry juice and my aunt Kathy always brings this and it's the simplest order but i i don't know what it is but it's so freaking good i could sit there all day and just eat that for Thanksgiving it's like a white cheese with like an orangey jelly on top of it then you dip a cracker in oh yeah it's pepper jelly right yeah it's not super spicy though it's like cream cheese okay that would be a block of cream cheese and you know i have a pepper i have two pepper jellies and i sell so much of my pepper jellies during this time of the year because it's like everybody's favorite just easy go to it's so easy i don't have a name for it but you know we we do a block of cream cheese and just pour the pepper jelly over the tops or for crackers yep here it is i found it i mean this is this is why i'm i'm the i always laugh like i'm the cheapest date ever because this is my favorite literally like this with it that's i could sit there and when we you put just crackers or whatever crackers whenever we go to Thanksgiving there's all these like hors d'oeuvres everywhere and um i'll just sit at the hors d'oeuvres table and drink my rum and cranberry juice and shout out on pepper jack or whatever this is and then by the time we sit down to eat i'm just like just a little pineapple casserole that's fine as all i want because i'm already full from the appetizers um no i love to make this i make it all the time um because there's nothing to do i mean you just know yeah it's a block of cream cheese and you just pour the jelly over the top and you know why i teach an early morning class tomorrow and after i'm done teaching i think i'm going to run by the grocery store i might have to get the what did did you send us pepper i want to get more of your pepper jelly i don't know if i gave you my pepper jelly if you don't remember he's probably eating it all because he went through your stuff really quickly so it's also a company called pick a pepper you ever heard of that like your boyfriend probably have heard has heard of it probably it's a you don't do spicy as much as he does but um pick a pepper is another thing that people would put over cream cheese and it's it's just kind of more of a oh i see it's like a dip like uh i see it yeah like a hot no i can't it can't do super spicy but that is like that's mine that i love that like i literally actually i'm going to go pick some up tomorrow at the grocery store that's going to be my contribution my boyfriend blesses heart he's being going to be cooking tomorrow and i'm just going to be sitting here eating crackers because i you don't want me to cook if i cook for you guys it's going to be a disaster i literally one time i had to boil an egg not that long ago and i was home by myself and so i had to call my mother to ask her how to boil it nobody taught me this up we didn't have home ec in my high school and then i caught you know i just never i never was taught any of this like i was never given the how to anyway it's fine i have a partner who you can go into the deli section at the grocery store and buy boiled eggs they're already boiled and peeled and then you can just cut them in half scoop out the the yolk and then mix all that up with some mustard and mayonnaise and then salad put it back in and now you've got a devil bed oh that's okay yeah miss betty crocker over here i have no idea what's going on you know what when you say betty crocker when i was in fifth grade um we went you had the book fairs at school and that's the book i got you know when all the other kids were getting like um like whatever it was me i bought a betty crocker cookbook does that not say something i was 10 years old you knew what your dog was whenever i go to my boyfriend's family's house they have like stacks and stacks of cookbooks we do we didn't have stacks and that's what mama had been hidden somewhere like i didn't see all those cookbooks it's my favorite past time i'll just sit and just like flip through cookbooks this one by madeline doesn't have as very many pictures so it's not as fun but i like i like to see the pictures and things so um oh look look at here it's an egg an egg well my mother i didn't do her mother having a a box a box with a little cardboard rest a little recipe and actually the pineapple casserole recipe that we use my aunt debbie took a picture of her little index card and sent it to me and i have it on a picture i kind of know it now because it's literally it's i mean i that's one thing i can make um is is the pineapple casserole but um yeah that was old school we had it written on your on i still have all those i still have like my my dressing recipe was my ex-husband's grandmother's recipe i don't even know where she got it from i still have it like in her handwriting um yeah my sister uh my sister's uh husband his family is italian and so she's learned a lot of italian my sister's like miss miss little homemaker i i watch her instagram and she's like making homemade bread i'm like i need to find her i need to look her up and wait did we grow up in the same house like where did you learn how to do this this this wizardry and i didn't learn it like she's i mean she's patient though and that's what she does and it's important to her she's got three kids like you do yeah and i think with this all great awakening she's really trying her best to give them as good a food as she can now that we know what's going on right with the world and so she's really i know i get on our insta stories and it's like it's all like pictures of bread she's making i'm like i just go to the grocery store and pick a loaf have you ever heard of kush or kush c-u-s-h i was reading in nathalie's book about cornbread dressing and it says over the years former students and employees have added more and more recipes to the repertoire cindy morgan from covington georgia worked for me as a teenager in the 1970s i moved she moved and 20 years later we ran into each other at a swimming pool far from home we sat by the pool and taught recipes and she gave me this one and so it's a it says southern cornbread dressing and then kush c-u-s-h and you're asking the wrong thing yeah she says some southerners refer to their dressing mixture as kush oh no i haven't heard that the sort shortened version of the gullas kush kush some suggests that the original word came from kush kush i've heard of i've heard kush kush she says it she says that she's like it came from the arabian kush kush and still others think it's native american in origin but kush kush i've heard that before but i mean my family grew up i mean well the gulla people of the low country like i'm not gulla my mom's not gulla that's that's the black in uh people and this was interesting about the gullas of the low country is mostly them still speak an african dialect they don't even know english so it's a very distinct culture and um so they might call it that but we call it cornbread the other other people okay here's the thing about cornbread actually really like cornbread if you don't put the corn kernels in it yeah i don't like that either i don't like when you bite into it there's like a corn kernel in it and i don't know if that's a southern thing cornbread um but this is cornbread and some people put i'll add i'll add some of these recipes guys i don't know that's going to pull up i might have to bring the screen down and pull it up but um yeah cornbread is really good if you do not put the corn kernels in there it's disgusting um and i'm a huge fan of hoecakes what's a hoecake my grandmother always called him like cracklin bread because she would put like like bacon you know okay in it and it would be like flat like fried flat it didn't it doesn't rise so i guess you make it without i've never made it but i love it whenever i come across um a restaurant like a country place that's got like a meat and three kind of place and they'll have like hoecakes or crackling bread with some big old lime brown lima beans and somebody you onions and you just stop it up well actually it's so funny you said lima beans because i think lima beans is more of a southern thing too isn't it i don't do i mean people i make them all the time i like lima beans lima bean lima beans and cornbread yeah lima beans i love but i we used to have those all the time when i was a kid and i really like lima beans um yep the ones i don't know what this white stuff is we ate the green ones uh i always growing up we always called the big brown ones the white ones we called those lima beans and then we called the green ones butter beans but now i find that in the grocery store lima beans are the green ones and butter beans are the big yellow ones yes one let me um actually i guess the question anything was zoom is you have to stop share to change pages but my well you talk i'm gonna run and get something down in my fridge that i just made the other day and it's not gonna look very good because it's cold right now but this is something i did with some with dressing okay be right back i am pulling up uh you guys i'm pulling up a southern mixture of what's called october beans and corn i'm trying to find the exact um recipe it's a south georgia thing my grandmother might from equipment door to she used to make october beans and corn all the time and it was really really i actually do like corn i just don't like corn in um oh here's more of what it would look like i love corn on the cob it's my favorite have you heard of the mixture of october beans and corn no um yeah it's it's a south october beans are an alternative to lima beans i'm looking at i'm trying to buy basically all she would do is mix october beans and corn and it was it's equipment it's a south georgia thing maybe north florida thing and i really as a kid i would like her october beans and corn it looked more like this but it was browner um and i can't believe i've never heard that it's so well actually it looked more like this with the corn mixed into it how she would do it uh huh do you know what she would make that i absolutely cannot effing stand what i don't even know what it's called jelly salad with like fruit in it yes it's so gross i know you're talking about what are you actually green no it would be like pink okay oh what's that called i don't know it was so gross and we got it like at bless bless her heart it was real south georgia i love the october beans and corn i love the drop the drop biscuit she made i loved her sweet tea with pineapple juice but this thing it was every time we ate at their house i think a lot of okay let me just set the scene i think a lot of people their grandparents you think about at your grandparents houses like whenever they were in the pinnacles of their life their house just kind of stays that way uh huh you go to my dad's parents house and on the outside it was just this beautiful white columns going up outside a beautiful swimming pool in the back just beautiful um the the lawn was really but inside it was like going through a time warp back into the 70s uh huh like horrific like the kitchen and carpet and like avocado green shit every like um shag carpeting like um the the kitchen was had like those big flower wallpapers well their their dining room which we would eat in the dining room like that we would actually i mean i don't even know if people have dining rooms anymore but at my grandparents my grandma my mom has a dining room actually in her house and we eat i love setting the table and doing all that i love to to bring out all the things my mom does that at christmas and thanksgiving like where it's all nice and fancy but otherwise you eat at the kitchen table now but at my grandma's house the only meal we ate at the kitchen table was like breakfast but when we go over to eat lunch or whatever at her house we're always in the dining room well this dining room had a mirror on one of the walls one of the walls was a full mirror like in the 70s and probably sitting there and i would be staring at myself in the mirror and i would have this jelly stuff like so gross and as a kid i would like have to eat some of it so it like i would like pick the little cherry fruit out of it and then just eat like the sugary jello stuff it would start to like melt over the lettuce oh i'm trying to find it you know what i'm talking about right well i think so i do know like the the cranberry sauce that's in the can you ever do that and then people will put here in the south will put like a dollop of mayonnaise on it i'm looking at it okay i'm looking at some pictures i wonder if it's cranberry salad and it was not cranberries it was like a light pink color i wonder if it was light pink because they mixed mayonnaise with it raspberry maybe i'm looking at some of these pictures none of the pictures look the way that okay this one kind of looks like it all right i'm going to share images quickly you guys and i'm sharing images as we're filming this i'm not going to have a chance to super edit this um when we get off so i'm trying to just share pictures as we go it kind of was like oh yeah but it looked like this it was like this color and it had like these little fruit things inside of it and it was always on top of a lettuce a leaf of lettuce i would have way rather had a pear salad um and it was that she literally made this kind of like look like this yes she made this for like every meal it didn't matter if it was christmas thanksgiving or a freaking sunday lunch and i always had to eat a little bit of it yeah i look kind of like more like this but it was pink yeah so my great grandmother mother made it the green it was green so i guess it was just different uh yeah it was and everybody else ate it like it was no big deal and i literally remember like taking my fork and just like being like like picking the it was so gross but i loved everything else that she made but uh uh this was disgusting i mean y'all that's i mean that's just like rings of like grandma doesn't it looking at these these things it's so gross yeah this is yellow so okay let's see can i okay i just change screen can you see it that i change screens or it's only old screen nauseating jello soaked recipes did you see that me on there nausea oh my god y'all so it said this is the 70s style so you know how i said go on to grandma's house like you're stuck in the 70s still yes this is why we i kind of want to make one just for fun to show your children what we had to sit through when we were kids yeah arrow look at that it's disgusting that is disgusting buying it a sausages yes and that looks like the the ravioli o's look at that it's disgusting i guess that's what your grandmother made the line yeah that's it they have to use like actual packets of jello mm-hmm there'd be like nuts in it like a little crunchy like nuts and we didn't have nuts it was just like so for our friends from the uk or south africa australia who are watching so we typically don't say jam for the stuff you put on like a biscuit we say jelly yeah that's our jam so this would be like our so what you guys would call let's see jelly is what we call jam and this is what we call jelly this oh with ramp and oh my gosh just traumatizing traumatizing it's funny though um last from the past look at this disgusting so what else do what other foods do you ask us to traumatize ourselves again like i remember like i remember kicking my feet like being so little that my feet didn't touch the ground and like kicking my feet against the chair and just like picking the salad trying to like pop the because i could i would eat like the jello like the jello but picking out the freaking chunks chunks and it would probably always start to melt my girlfriend always put it on a leaf and it was always on a separate plate like a plate beside the main plate and it would like start to melt over the leaf thing and i remember like watching a big family meals like watching my aunts and like my cousins and being like they don't seem to be grossed out by this like why am i grossed out by like they were just eating it and i was like this is so fucking disgusting like i don't i love the october beans and corn i love the drop biscuits the pineapple sweet tea but that uh-uh uh-uh that was not good so anyway what else and what else do you want to talk about what are i came up with this idea the other day it's this is not look good because it's way left over it's been in my fridge for several days but this is this is dressing and i made them into muffins and so they're like single servings and then uh they're not crispy anymore but these are sage leaves that i fried and so i had them like on top of the little muffins like when i served them to my friends and they were really pretty but um this was just leftover but anybody you see the sage leaf it's like fried oh yeah so i'm pulling up so people can see angie what dressing looks like typically looks like so people understand like how you've made it individual if it will pull the picture up here um or is that a video um so hold on let me back out of this so i can pull the pictures up but i love this idea because you know i was taking things to some little old ladies you know they were that are kind of shut in and i took them like a court you know a dressing muffin and then um just the green beans and it was just kind of a little perfect little it was easy for me to transport and um yeah because you know there are a lot of people alone on Thanksgiving and and they don't need a whole what are they going to do with the whole casserole right like you i'm actually gonna i found a southern living recipe for the dress now i love dressing but i have to be careful with it except to make sure there's no um chicken stock used that's right vegetable stock that they that's substituted for vegetable stock um but i love i actually really like the dressing my aunt kathy makes a really good dressing actually and yeah because we don't put it in the turkey it's not actually put into the into the turkey so it's too damn hot we're like turkey don't want anything up its ass it's too hot outside um so i'll put that up now angie are you going to be writing your own cookbook are you going to be like with your i'm trying to work on it you know got a lot going on right now but i'm trying to work on it um i have been i mean i started it a few years back um so we'll see we'll see is anyone's got southern charm with a side of pickles or pickles with a side of southern charm i'm trying to figure it out that you know it's all um recipes that that i've made forever and this kind of staples that some of them are from my children you know when cat comes home she's always making a certain thing and um just what we all like and even like nasty stuff like dorito crusted you know fish and i love doritos so it's sad whenever i get doritos at the gas station i have to eat them in the car because my boyfriend says they smell like dog's feet so i have to eat them by myself by my own i try to keep them away from me but but sometimes i mean it's just like because you know they're corn chips so it's like a cornbread you can like it makes a good um you just crush them up and use them as a as a dusting over whatever fish or tofu or whatever you're cooking but don't people use uh coca-cola to cook chicken sometimes yeah they do they do they stick that is the other thing with coca-cola cans up their butts um hey oh yeah i think that's a southern thing uh coca-cola chicken needless to say i've never oh i did not that i don't know what i put there i totally did not spell chicken but um they use it mm-hmm like i'm trying to find i'll pull the pictures up because it actually like when the finished product like looks like a grilled chicken now how do they do this angie what what they stick it up its butt and like cook it like what's going on i guess the heat i'm not really sure but i guess the heat maybe makes the coat bubble up and go up into the chicken's butt i don't know like make the chicken savory like who thought of this who was like you know what we should try people do beer can chicken too like beer can chicken mm-hmm yeah um people are too bored and here's a guy pouring coca-cola on top of the chicken uh huh um what else angie what else is very southern fried okra we do fried okra fried fried green tomatoes everything in the second tomatoes i have that on my instagram recently i just made fried green tomatoes and fried pickles i had a whole like plate where i did like fried green tomatoes fried pickles fried green beans like it was just like a mixture um and with like a dip like ranch yeah i'm not a green i'm not just i'm not a green bean fan anyway like that's not my favorite vegetable but i might do fried uh-huh right i really like fried okra i didn't even know you could eat okra not fried that's how southern i like okra anyway you want to do it that okra can be consumed without being fried like i just thought it was always wrong um grits i mean that's we could talk about grits too that's a morning thing yep and then also i mean i do shrimp and grits yeah a lot of like like i like that kind of stuff so um also you can take so if you if you make a big thing of grits and you have a bunch of it left over pour your grits into a pyrex dish like a casserole dish and smooth it out you know just like a layer like cake and then refrigerate that and then you can cut that into little squares or rectangles and you have like grit cakes oh wow you can top those with different things you know whatever your topping is and so a lot of people if you're in the low country and all one year for Thanksgiving i did a surf and turf Thanksgiving so it was like a turkey breast with prices like grossing out over all this but a turkey breast covered in crawfish eti fai like over the top of that's well i know New Orleans like they just dump it all on the table and you just eat the table um now grits for our friends it's it's like cream of wheat but it's not the same thing nothing like it very different but people will compare the two we don't do cream of wheat down here in the south we do grits now it's savory savory when our um when we have our wellness retreat we're gonna make sure grits are on the menu for breakfast so people can try cheese i think they do it all i i personally just like them plain like i don't like what just like a little butter i don't like not a huge kind of like cheese grits um but cheese but grits uh toasted raisin bread with butter like that's a waffle house that's right i do a grit bar sometimes like for new year's eve new year's day like i'll do a grit bar like where i have like one of those um things i got it at sam's club it's got three crop pots you just turn on and you can have it and i would do like i would do different plans yeah and then i'll put all the different fixings over to the side and people just make their own grit bowls so it's a you know it's just that easy yeah very easy thing to do it's pretty healthy it's pretty i mean you can make it up if you want to oh and they do they do whatever they want it's kind of like doing tacos but they're just you know people just get to choose what they want you know put in their grit bowl so that's a really good easy party idea and also i think it'd be a really good Thanksgiving thing to do really low key just like here it is you know come through and make your own plate and you don't have to we should not be forced to eat all this crap and put it on our plates that we don't really want well my family knows i'm not going to do that like i would i just drop hold on i dropped the cat to my pen um my family knows like everybody will sit down on Thanksgiving meal with like yellow go and get all the food and sit down there place before my plate's like it looks like a kid's plate it's like it's like just very selective things but listen listen y'all my aunts know about they were with when i was six months old i was in eggleston's children hospital because my colon was so jacked up i wasn't even eating solid foods yet and my i just could not i could not digest anything so my family very much understands that i am not to eat something to eat something just to be polite when you have colon issues is not worth it right because it and i that was one of the biggest points of contention when when uh my boyfriend i started dating because he has no food issues he has no food allergies wow that would be so nice i know and he could not understand he thought he was going to like fix my food allergies and i kept saying because he's a chef and i kept saying no no i've dealt with this my whole life i know what to eat i know what not to eat and then we would you know he would go to make something and he would put like i would tell him i can't use certain oils and he put a little bit of oil and he goes oh it's just a little bit i'm like a little bit will make me sick for a week and so finally this last sickness we had where i was like sick for nine days of the fever and then he got it and i said i want you remember how miserable you felt for that nine days then every time you tell me oh it's just a little bit of olive oil it's just a little bit of this that misery you were in for nine days is what that little bit does to me yeah you're better with i would think ghee yeah i do use ghee i can't and i will say you guys especially when it comes to oils you have to be very careful oils come in fats like it like coconut oil is a fad right now i had somebody on my channel that was consistently commenting that everyone needed to eat coconut oil that is dangerous if you are vata like me coconut oil can literally kill you okay it's too vata but for someone who's kappa coconut oil is amazing so you really have to be careful when it comes to those ingredients especially if you have a sensitive essence i do better with like butter yeah ghee um i don't do good i don't do oil oils at all you would never do this but also like bacon grease i do i can do that it just is great with me but a lot of times like any kind of seed oils don't agree with me at all i don't do well with oils any oil really i have i struggle with and it's funny because i can walk into restaurants and smell i might not be a good cook but i can smell if i'm going to be sick and i didn't know what that was and it was my boyfriend that actually said you're smelling the oil that's you're picking up on what oils your body's telling you no no go so finally he accepted that there are just there's no way to fix this i remember so like tomatoes raw tomatoes for vatas are not great but cooked tomatoes like tomato soups are good or can be and there's just one restaurant here in atlanta that makes really good tomato soup that sits really well with my stomach and so i would go pick it up and finally one day he was like oh i can make you tomato because i bless his heart like he always wants to cook for me but that i just can't that's his that's his love language and i just can't eat this food um and so he made me this big bowl of tomato soup but i knew i knew it was going to make me sick i knew and i kept saying please don't do this please don't do this it's it's nothing against your cooking it's just whatever ingredients you're you're choosing to use are not good with me i ate a bowl 30 minutes later i was in the toilet projectile vomiting and he was like oh i was like yeah for some reason this restaurant whatever the ingredients they use it sits well with me but whatever ingredients you used is i could smell it was not going to sit well with me and so yeah it's um so that's another at any time you're making food and someone opts not to eat some of your food don't be offended it might just be that they literally have an allergy that they cannot you know for anybody out there watching this like oh i mean i'm allergic to so many things i mean i have to be so careful i mean i ate earlier i ate a little pizza and i knew better like i have a hard time with gluten i always have you know and um people say that's a bad you know no for me it's really a real thing i really have a hard time with breads and i love bread but i i know that i'm just gonna have to just suck it up and just like be bloated and you know miserable but i mean i can still hear like right now when i think about Thanksgiving and all my family's sitting around in south george i can hear it right now oh we owe we owe you after they eat and they're like unbutton their butting their pants and all i'm like oh no just give me a just give me a spinach salad and i'll be good some blue cheese on it some strawberries cream cheese and jelly pepper and we're good call today and some rich crackers we're good baby um but that's why you know i figured this restaurant in in hell and i can't think of the name of it right now that it's a german restaurant and they said they're doing a Thanksgiving buffet kind of thing but they're also going to have their regular menu going the whole time too so i'm like well okay so we can choose yeah use what you want i mean i so look forward to that much more than the forced family feast yeah yeah well y'all it's coming up about an hour and a half now so i'm a little over an hour and um you guys i want to hear and you know i want to hear from you guys but americans put your favorite dish title in the comment section that's specific to Thanksgiving for all of the europeans and our friends from other countries whatever holiday dish specifically a holiday dish whatever holiday that is that you like put them in the comment section below and then we'll see if maybe angie you can look through them and if there's any dishes that pop out to you that aren't traditional for us would you want to try to make it i would love that i'll come over we can i mean i can't help you girl it'd be disaster it would be it would be an offense to the country that it comes from if i try to make it but i can film it we can try it with you if it's something i can eat well you know that'd be kind of fun and i know on that query is rising after everyone saying they wanted to try their try the pineapple casseroles specifically so let's hey what you guys if you're from an area that doesn't traditionally make these casseroles so so for the southerners or for the americans that typically make this castle i'm not talking to you because you got experience i want the people that have never done these casseroles before if you're going to try to make these casseroles will you send me a picture of your finished product and i will create a reel of everybody's pineapple casseroles or you know hash brown casseroles whatever it is you choose to make will you email me that picture and i will create a reel and we can show you know that's the thing about culture right i'm proud of being southern i love being from the south i think the south is one of the coolest places and this is centric we got our ghosts we got all that fun magic stuff and we also have these really interesting food dishes and that's something that you should be proud of your culture so even if you're from the north and you've got like a Yankee style dish for for Thanksgiving or Christmas you make or from out west or whatever just send me that information because our cultures are meant to be shared with each other so share it with us and we'll share it with the world rosie what's your least favorite Thanksgiving food um come say hello people will love seeing you they always love seeing me oh my headband i just i just did all my skincare and i'm like your skin's perfect oh my skin is what's your least favorite Thanksgiving food oh no i don't know dry turkey i guess so chicken salad you're like dressing she didn't like you know yeah i don't know i like cranberry sauce you do like the cranberry sauce yeah i like the dark turkey meat better than the okay all right well this this year you just get to have whatever you want no forced feast i love Thanksgiving food oh it's pumpkin pie look at mom yeah yeah that's it that's another thing it's pumpkin i don't like pumpkin pie you you love pumpkin but she loves pumpkin pie oh wow i never we've never had pumpkin pie at our family thanksgiving this is nobody likes it we have a con pie we have chess chess pie is that a southern thing chess yeah i like chess pie um i do love chess yeah go get my purse my car keys are in the purse in my black purse okay yeah like my mom's mom would never even mess with dessert she would just buy a box full of uh ice cream sandwiches yeah yeah yeah when i was a little kid i i like i did not like this i'm not a huge chocolate fan when i was little i did not like the chocolate breadie part i just like the vanilla ice cream in the middle so my sweet mama's my sweet mama's mama in her high heels and pearls would get a bowl out and would pull the chocolate biscuits off of it that the the part and then smush the ice cream in the bowl for me she's a kid picky eater since day one uh my go to dessert that i make in holiday time is not it's not for children at all that sounds fun it's called heavenly tiddly and it's a recipe from a man from athens georgia and um it is an alcoholic beverage girl girl it's like vanilla bean ice cream or you could use coffee ice cream and then you use kalua clean the cocoa and vodka that sounds fantastic and i will like make them pre-made and have them in the freezer ready to go and i'll like shave like chocolate like dark chocolate at the top and yes and you know a lot of times the kids will have a little bit but it's i told you the story when i was 14 my dad granddad my dad's dad took me to the country club for dinner for some reason it was just him and me i don't remember why and we were sitting there and he ordered me a cocktail at 14 in the waiter kind of looked at him and he goes she's my granddaughter it's my responsibility to teach her how to drink and he said that's right i remember i was 14 years old with this cocktail my granddad was like and no and everybody's at country club knew who my granddad was and no one was bad and i because i was his granddaughter he was going to teach me how to drink a damn cocktail so um now apparently my mom's dad if you were a man in his presence and you ordered a cocktail that was a little too girly he would say something to you about your choice in cocktails so anyway all right you guys here's y'all here's y'all y'all welcome back now um i hope you guys have a wonderful wonderful thanksgiving i um yeah we've got some great stuff coming up i know we got some some more shows planned with angie and jessica and i've got to do some more research though for some of these shows that we'll be planning hopefully we'll get a few in before christmas but i know it's a crazy time of year so we've got lots of good stuff coming i'm really interested in all these bogs like we're indians oh yeah so i'm really somebody sent me some other stuff oh and i've got a lot of things i need to share with you that people have been sending me so okay well we'll we'll get into that at some point after you know this is like somebody uh said on social media the other day that october november december are like the friday saturday sunday of the year so it's it's quite crazy this time of year but all right you guys for the americans out there i hope you have a really really happy thanksgiving to the non-americans out there i hope you have a really really happy thursday and um yeah let us know your family your family recipes or what you like down in the comment section below and if you i'm going to have a list of all these recipes that we talked about it's going to be in the description box most of them are southern living recipes for those who are not from the united states southern living as a very reputable it's a magazine but they do really good recipes really good so i'm going to put all those in the description box and if you try to make some of these send me send me pictures of what you created all right you guys i'm going to put all angie's information in the description box so you can make sure you subscribe to her channel as well and maybe encourage angie to get her cooking show started i know i know i gotta talk to jay we'll talk about that another time but all right all right you guys right about it bye everybody