 వక్టక అఒధంన కి ఠ్టటకి ᄸ នៜកᅣᾱ ត៘ accountability ន។ំ theatrical ទ � Troy ⟘ ⟘ Is.ации 19 19 19 19 19 19 19 ? ? the foundation failures, extraordinary loads and corruption. The forces of nature were also identified as part of the causes of building collapse. The major reasons for building failures include the use of substandard materials, quarks and failure of designs during the construction. It is pertinent to note that the incidence of building failures and collapses in Nigeria has reached an alarming level and the stakeholders need to wake up and stop treating these continuous occurrences with levity. On several occasions it led to unnecessary loss of lives and destruction of people's properties, thus becoming an issue of major concern since it poses threats to the national development of our great nation. Generally, citizens including professionals and government must take a step in order to prevent the common problem of building collapse in Lagos and Nigeria at large. The responsible government agencies and professional bodies must create awareness of the need to obtain planning permission before building. They must also insist on the need to engage professionals in the construction of buildings. Guys, what do you think about building collapse? Comfort go first. Yeah, comfort, what do you think about the building collapse? There was a recent incident in Lagos last week. Oh wow, that was last week. Yes, that was last week. A butimeter precisely. Shall we? Yes. Please go ahead. Are we saying that the last two parts that the responsible government agencies must create awareness of the need to collect and building permits and professionals. Everybody including me and you know that these agencies exist. They come out to extract, we know them. So it's not that we don't know them. It's the issue of the system failure as we say and the fact that even we Nigerians especially have been come just deployed of all modern value systems honestly. We are the ones that will go to them, show them, bribe them. Exactly. Everybody will say it is where I work, I will job. They will take the money, compromise. So it's not as if they engage the professionals. The professionals are hungry or greedy and compromise. So this one fact, it goes beyond what we can see on paper. This is what the Bible calls a complete renewing of might. That's what is needed here. They need to renew. I don't know what ever it was that has been put into us to bring us this. Honestly, sorry mom, I have to go spiritual on this. Thank you. When all else fails, right? Yeah. For me, I think it's one major question. When buildings collapse, the site is seized, taken over by governments. That's the location of the building. What happens to the contractor and all the people that work on the building? The guy who supervises the mixing of the cement, the contractor, the foreman, what do you call them? Who supervises the entire process? At every stage of the building, the architects, do we check if the structure is okay? All this stuff, do we do it? Because if all these things are being done and licenses are being seized and people are sent to prison, it would deter a lot of people and make people a lot more conscious. That's one way. Secondly, do Nigerians themselves care about their lives and the lives of other people? Do we feel that the fact that my life had to live, do we understand that we're responsible for other people around us? Because if you're putting up a building and you know that the structure, the quality of that building is weak, then you're very inhuman. That on its own deserves a jail term, life imprisonment. I think something needs to be done to this. Absolutely. I'll share an experience with you. I mean like Comfort said, it's a system failure. Exactly. I did an event with some expatriates in 2011 and we're setting up an event in a hotel, a big event, massive event. It was an awards ceremony, one of the biggest in Nigeria. And they brought some consulsant from South Africa. So while the decorator was setting up, the guy asked me, so at what point did they do the fire drill, the fire test? I said, what was that? You know, it's funny, right? I said, what was that? He said, oh, they're putting drapes, right? I said, yes, they're not going to test it with fire. I said, you want this place to burn down? He said, are you being serious? He couldn't, his mind was buggered, he was like, what? You could just do things there. There's no agency that checks. So I mean, that's an event, right? An event of maybe three or four hours. Now think about a building that has to sit there for maybe 20 or 30 years or more in some cases. So clearly there's a system failure. There's no point where somebody has thought that at some point somebody needs to come and check. In some cases where they even check, you know, his money's are exchanged. So the system is already messed up, you know, because as long as the human behind the system in Nigeria, that's what I always say, you know, everywhere goes and I've been both, you know, guilty and you know, charged in this. I've been on both ends where the system fails and I can see it, where points where I've been guilty of system failure, because I always say to myself, you know, and I always say, oh, this thing can be done. Oh, they won't let that thing. Oh, this thing is always policy. You know, I always say, is it a human behind that? Let's test it. I've tested this thing too many times. I've tested it too many times. As long as the Nigerian behind that process or that policy, I won't tell you what I went through today. Trying to get, you know, renew passports or trying to do a parcel for my daughter today in this hour Nigeria. If I tell you the process that I went through to renew a passport as a Nigerian, you understand what the system failure is about. I can't even get started. So are we saying we doomed for life? What's the wealth? Well, you know, that's another I think that's another show entirely. But like you said, you know, you know, we said on the beginning of the show and comfort was hearing and comfort made a comment. I said that 200 million people in Nigeria, the leaders that we have done up to 50,000. If a million people, and my math is bad, I know what one million of 200 million is, if a million people decide to do right in Nigeria, one million people, we have 36 states, let's say a hundred thousand people per state decide to do the right thing. A hundred thousand people per state decide to do the right thing in Nigeria. And you have 3.6 million people doing the right thing in Nigeria. Nigeria will change. It's a change. It's now how to get those people to do the right thing. That is, you're not throwing debts out. You're not following one way. You're not paying bribe. Just 3 million people, 3.6 million out of the 200 million. Let's try it. And you see if there will be change. But you know, but you know, you know, most times when you go to government offices and you want to get, for instance, maybe a document or a permit, you know, and they tell you, the person in charge, as in the staff, the people in the office are telling you, madam, don't bother this person, our boss doesn't compromise. And you just know inside you that this man will definitely compromise because maybe you have an offer that's very irresistible. So juicy. Yes. And you just think that, and you know that if this person doesn't give you this permit, there's no way you can go ahead. And over the years, I know we, like you mentioned, we've been guilty. I've been on the side and I've been on the other side. Yes. And you know, this person now tells you, okay, I'm not supposed to do this, but I will help you. That's it. That's where it starts. That's where it starts. I will help you. Exactly, I'll help you. So we really need to work on ourselves as Nigerians. And like you mentioned, if we have just few people who are willing to stand, you know, for what is right, then who would go. But you see, while you wrap up, I agree with you that we need to do that, get those few people. Well, I think more importantly, we have a few people that do this. I can speak for myself. From the way you speak to, I know you. I mean, I know what you stand for and everything. I try. I know you all try. Nobody's understanding you. Now, I'm very sure from the top of our heads, if we also look, I mean, around our friends and everything, we can get maybe 50,000 people. But what we don't do is speak out. We do it and we keep quiet. And everybody thinks, oh, he's done what everybody does. If we all can speak out, we'll be a change. Yes. Yes. What God cannot do does not exist. Pritch Pritch, ha? All right, sure. Yes. Up next is Tolius. Stay with us.