 In the new alternative vision of formalization, which includes extending benefits to the workers, not just imposing costs of compliance with regulations and taxes, the approach is seen as incremental and that you move towards realizing a whole set of rights, whether it's worker benefits, labor rights, whether it's the right to social protection. You move along a continuum to gradually realize all of the rights to which they are entitled and that whole set of rights is what equals appropriate formalization for these workers. So then the question becomes, how do we begin this process of gradual progression towards full formalization? And one way to do it is to ask informal workers which benefits they most require in the short, medium and long term because they understand their needs and constraints better than the policymakers do and they will help chart a path to full formalization. To enable the workers to negotiate this process of gradual formalization, they need several things. One is that they need voice. They need collective voice. They need credible voice informed by data, informed by policy analysis so that they can advocate effectively for the benefits of formalization. A second is that they need to be visible in policy circles. So it's very important to have improved measurement of informal employment and related social indicators like how many have social protection, how many have housing so that they can make the case for their entitlements to these benefits or rights.