 You know what I was thinking? What? I was thinking with, I can sometimes, not all the time, but with all of the neck kissing and the history of Bollywood cinema, why aren't there more hickies? It's just kissing, not sucking. Start sucking, people. Hey, welcome back to our stupid rakes of Corbin. I suck. You can follow us on Instagram, Twitter for more juicy content. Thank you to Erduse for some Patreon, follow us through the accounts, subscribe, like, button. Yeah, and welcome to Spooky Month. Ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh, ooh. Scared? If you don't know in America, at least. October Spooky Month. Yep. Most people, a lot of people at least, like to watch spooky, scary-ish style movies for the sake of October Halloween. Yeah, we know it's not really a thing in India. But we like to do it. Very much. And so the first one we got to, we got to a little lake, because obviously we were at the Indian Film Festival, we had other stuff we wanted to get to, but trying to get to some of the kind of spooky-style films that we haven't got to yet. You can go see our previous ones. We've seen quite a few. Quite a few. This one was one that has been recommended a lot, and it's from the 2002 film, Roz. Sorry, movie review. It's all right, they know, we know. I just like going, the drama horror musical, which I would describe Rocky Horror. I was just gonna say the same thing, yeah. But it's different in India. Yes. But it's directed in, oh, sorry. You were gonna say written by, but it's not. It's directed by Vikram Bhatt, written and produced by Mukesh Bhatt. Mukesh, I know, is Aliya's father. Vikram, I'm assuming is- The writer is Mahesh Bhatt. What did I say? Oh, no, it's not, just throw me off here. That's all right, geez. Understandable. Okay, so. It looks like the exact same name. Three bots. For the price of one. Okay, so, I know it's- Hold on, they look similar. Okay, I don't know if Mahesh or Mukesh is her father. Are they twins? They look kinda similar. They look kinda similar, and the name is similar. I think her father is Mukesh. They look similar, are they twin brothers? Regardless. It'd be great if they weren't related at all. Yeah, exactly. It's directed by Vikram Bhatt, written by Mukesh Bhatt, and produced by Mukesh Bhatt. And I don't believe Aliya's in it at all. Was she even alive? Was it, it was 2020? Yeah, she was definitely alive. Just wanted to make sure. Starring these three. Say the name for me. Yes, Dino Morea, Bipasha Basu, and Malini Sharma. Thank you. But obviously this came out in 2002, so it's gonna be 100% spoiler review. Correct. So if you haven't seen it, please go watch it. I don't know where it's available in India. They have availability's different other places than we have them. But with a supporting role, we will bring up as well of Ashutosh. Yes, yes, yes, yes, yes. But anyways, so if you haven't watched it, please go watch it, come back, it's gonna be 100% spoiler review. Rick, your initial thoughts of the 2002 horror film, Raaz. Raaz is dreadful in all of the right ways. I went from liking the movie because it was so campy and reminded me of like 1970s horror movies here in Hollywood that just was like, okay, I'm in, it's so bad and so many great ways. And then the second half, I have so much good to talk about this movie. I loved Raaz. Oh, really? Yeah, I loved it. Where would it fall for you in your horror, India specific? Yeah, well, it's for me, it's gonna be in my list of horror movies period that I recommend. I've been making some recommendations on my Instagram that kind of got interrupted with some things that are happening globally. I don't know if you've heard about them. And I'm intending to recommend this week before it gets too late and we're too close to Halloween, at least 10 different films that I would recommend. This is right up there for me of my favorite horror films that have hit Indian cinema for us. And all cinema for me, this is like classic, campy, you're gonna groan because some things are so bad but they're endearing because you know the effort at the time was as intentional to be as good as possible. It's just, I love a lot of things about, I particularly love the sexiness of this movie. I'll talk a lot about that and talk about our two ladies. What'd you think? I enjoyed it. I thought, especially for the time, I know this actually inspired, there was a little obviously horror before this, just sprinkled in through Bollywood. But after this, this has about 10,000 sequels. Does it? Yes. And then I heard it was the second biggest film of the year in Indian cinema. But it definitely inspired a lot more horror genre in Bollywood after 2002. Good. That's a classic. It does have a bunch of that. And I thought there was some really, really good stuff in terms of some performances. Also, I thought the production quality and the kind of tone of the film, I really enjoyed that also goes into production. I thought it was really nice. There's some moments, especially at the end. Yeah. And I'm like, it goes off the rails. No way. I love it. Because a lot of those are specific for the time of for India specifically, of why they do certain things and blah, blah, blah. And I'll get into that more. Overall, I actually thought it was very good. Especially for in India, like I said, it wasn't scary. But I thought in terms of a lot. It had some good jump scares with sound. But in terms of like a imagery, I thought it was very good in terms of, it'd be up there with the Indian horrors of Bhut and other ones that I really enjoyed. And I thought for Indian horror, it did a very good, especially for it being basically at this time, kind of the one that was leading the way for the new versions of Bollywood horror. Yeah. And Drani, before I watched it, because she's seen it, all she told me beforehand was, you're gonna like it. And I was messaging her because she was away, she was in Northern California for a day at a wedding and we were texting each other as I was watching it. And she just replied, because I was texting her nonstop. And she said, I told you, you're gonna like it. So yeah. And actually, let's talk about the performances first. All of them, I believe this was their first, actually. Yeah, it was not Bapasha's first film, it was her first leading role. Okay, gotcha. But regardless, a lot of the three specifically were very new in what they were doing. And you saw that at times in terms of like, especially when there was any kind of like heightened emotion, you saw them like kind of reaching. But talk about screenqueen. Oh yeah. And she had exhausting. I mean, it's really difficult for any actor, let alone someone who came from modeling, and this is your first leading role, to spend Bapasha, to spend 65% of your time on set. Be scared. Yeah. Be more scared. Yeah. And I thought like, she has great screen presence. Great eyes. She's one of the most beautiful women we've seen on film as far as I'm concerned. I found her to be absolutely gorgeous. I thought she did a really good job. All of them had their moments of when it was, they needed to show a little more emotion that I'm like, you could see their newness. As a new terminology for me that I wanna talk, I would love to talk to more about from Raul Bose. The pitch they were at. And the different pitches they hit. As new actors, you don't know that. You're just like, you take, or you give what you think and do what the director tells you to do. But overall, especially when it was just like, just, she did a lot of just staring, right? Yeah. She was very, having to react at things that she's not seeing obviously. Very green screen for the day, you know? Yeah. I thought she did a very good job. I did too. Other leading lady. Yes, Malini Sharma. Malini Sharma who played the evil spirit. Once again, this is under reason to early came out 20 years ago. Yeah. Yeah, if you haven't seen it, go see it. I then come back and watch. I thought she did a very good job. So I really enjoyed her performance. So did I. The ladies were the killers for me, man. They're the reason to watch it. No offense to the guys, because the guys were good. But the ladies were the ones leading the way on this thing. Yeah, she did a very good job. One playing. It's a great story too. Kind of this evil spirit slash mentally ill person. But also giving off extreme sexy vibes and. Both ladies. They both had really, really nice screen presence on screen. I enjoyed both their performances. The definitely the stand out. Yeah. The notes I wrote down, particularly about Bapasha. The moment when he comes home and she's got Malini inside of her and she's possessed in that moment. She reaches her hand out to him in the bedroom and he's like, what's going on? I'm gonna read a quote that she says. But I wrote down and I texted my wife. I said, there hasn't been a sexier possessed woman on screen since Sigourney Weaver and Ghostbusters, right? When I was a kid and I watched Ghostbusters, I saw Sigourney Weaver and Mike Ghostbusters. I think I want a woman with an evil spirit in her to seduce me, because she was so damn nice. I was like, Bill Murray, what are you doing? That's what I call my demands. Here you go, you ready? Evil spirit. Evil spirit. Here's a quote that she sang to him and then he doesn't take her up on it. More on it. I screamed at my screen. I said, you idiot. She says, for ages, this dry, parched earth hasn't had a drop of water. Yeah, I remember this. Tonight, however, it will see a storm. Don't say anything. Just listen to me. Let the fires rage. Let me be charred. Are you kidding me? Are you kidding? Even when her face changes and he gets scared, I don't care. Stay right there. Yeah, yeah. My goodness, that was great. Yeah, she was great. A lot of sex, especially for 2002, right? Well, we noted and it lived up to the expectation. We watched that music number from it where she licks the water on his chin. Very sexy. It's like if the rest of the movies got that and it did, very sexy movie. That's one of my favorite things about it is how sexy the movie is. For sure. I thought the guy did well. You could once again see his newness with some of the scenes for sure. He wasn't as strong as the females, but I thought he did well. I couldn't separate whether or not I disliked him because he wasn't as strong as they were, though he was fine or just the character himself from the get-go. Not a likable character. Not a likable guy. And just continually proves it throughout. And then at the end, when she's taking the high moral ground as it were to save him, I was thinking to myself, Yeah, why? Why? Yeah. That is- Why? Let him go be with the woman he had an affair with and who cares? That was my biggest gripe with you. Yeah, I didn't like that. Was the ending? Because once again, what I said at the beginning, it's very Bollywood for the time. Somebody needs a redemption arc, even if they absolutely shouldn't. And also the random ass clapping for the girl that they had no idea what she even did, but they were clapping down the hallway. It's so bad. I'm like, why are you clapping for her? I know. You don't know what she did. It's so bad. But here's the thing. So I was like, when it was happening, when he was driving, and it caught me off guard that he went off. Right? Like- Oh, the crash? Yeah. That was like, they just killed him. And I was like, this is great. I love this. It was 200 feet on the rocks. I'm pretty sure the car doesn't have airbags. And then you see him in the hospital. Not a scratch on him. Actually, he did have a light scratch. Well, she had a horrible wreck at the beginning with nothing happening to her. I think that was Malini taking care of the situation. But she didn't fall 200 feet on the rocks. With probably no airbags. But if you don't do that, then you can't have the ending you have, Corbin. I didn't want them to have it. I think it would have been amazing. This is the ending. And once again, I know it's for the time. I get it, but I still hate it. Like, have him go off. He dies. And she's still, she wants to, she was like, even though he's an ass and he cheated on me. I want to get Malini. I still want to get her for killing and taking my husband. I want to get revenge. I prefer the purity of her getting Malini and burning her. It is absolutely to love your enemy, forgive your enemy is the high platform to take. But I very much was in the position of, my goodness, what he's done to her. Not just what he did to her, but what he did to both these women was abominable. He's a terrible guy. And I loved, I really enjoyed the performance of, I mentioned him at the very beginning, of Ashutosh, Ronam, he was as Agni. He was funny because he was either really good or he was insanely up here. Somebody was just whispering over here and he was like, I exactly, he was so great. And then I loved the contacts, his eyes, when they changed after the electric, Lassu choked him and he became possessed and he's chasing him. And then I loved how it just went off the fricking rails. She's ramming him into the tree and the blood is coming out of his mouth and then he's okay and he's trying to hatch it, these ladies, and then the ladies are attacking him and then they chop off his fricking head. I know, that's great. That part of the ending I really enjoyed. And the imagery of the forest as well was great. It was great, and the consistency of the scream. This had some of the scariest imagery we've seen in Indian cinema. I loved her head turn in the car. Yeah, head turn, also the blood coming from the chandelier was great. In terms of like horror imagery, this one had some of the best we've seen from Indian horror. Yes. Like I said, that's a different bar than obviously Hollywood horror. We've been doing it a lot longer. We've kind of perfected that same way India's perfected like romance. Yeah, and I think it's comparable when you look at the fact that Indian cinema and Hollywood cinema is only two to three years apart when they started. American cinema started in like 1910 and India started in 1913. So they started at the same time. But the evolution of particular genres and styles of cinema are very different. And obviously Hollywood had a big money as well. Had a much earlier start. I think for its history and its timeframe, this is absolutely the kind of horror film you would expect 20 years ago. Absolutely. It's what our horror films were like 40 years ago. 70s and 80s. Yeah, absolutely. It's basically where this would be for, except for the Bollywood version of it, obviously the songs and which were great. Actually, I really enjoyed the songs and the happy ending for the, because if this was Hollywood, he would not have a redemption arc. No. He would have been murdered or brutally cut apart or possessed. It would be a dark ending of some kind. Which is what I prefer, but obviously they needed, I'm sure the producers are like, the audience wants her to save her husband. For sure, for sure. And for him to have a redemption, for some weird reason. I still don't like that. And also we want them to clap on the hallway for this girl that they have no idea why she did. That was the funniest thing, because I was like, you do not know what she just did. Doesn't matter. You don't even know her. I don't know why this, hold on. Oh, that light shouldn't be on. Yeah. Sorry. But the imagery, that's one of my favorite parts. I loved all the songs, they were great. This is a great album by... Oh yeah, beautiful music. Who is it? Some of it was just campy. Some of it was really complex. There's a moment where she's running through the forest and there's this piano piece going on underneath that's really fast and rapid that I thought, I hope no one misses that, because that's great composition under all this action. I think this would... And I struggle because we've seen some good ones, right? In terms of horror. And I don't include like Amos, because even though it's not like, I wouldn't consider that horror. It's just a creepy story, right? Yeah. It's more drama than it is. Yeah. It's more drama that has some creepy elements to it, right? It's kind of like, you didn't see the platform bid you from Spain? No. Yeah, it's kind of like the platform. The platform's disgusting, but it's drama, thriller, psychological. I'm more like something that's spooky, right? In terms of spooky horror. This would be up there. Yeah, because that doesn't include ghosts. No. Super natural. Like, boot would be probably still at the top. I love Perry. I thought Perry was great. I did too. But this would be in there. What else? Bull bull. Oh yeah, bull bull. Even though that one, like I said, not story. Street is comedy horror. Comedy horror. That's a different genre. I still include it for me. It's a Halloween movie for me. But it's the same kind of film as like a young Frankenstein for me. It's more on the comedy side. Bollywood, they do actually comedy horror, I think, quite well. Yeah, they do. In terms of, and I think that's what they prefer. And obviously, Tombad. Yes, we've seen Tombad. Oh, that would, yeah, Tombad would be probably number one. Wait. That's, that one's kind of in a league of its own. Yeah. And that one's still more drama folk horror. Yeah, it is. But the ending. Oh yeah, that, well, everything. When you're going in there, I mean, you don't, it's got the suspense and the tension when you're going in and seeing that. If you, well, you haven't seen it, maybe. So go see it. That Marathi one was phenomenal. Yeah, that was great too. We can see, I want to remember the title of that one. The one we're in the field. I'm gonna make a list, because that's one of the things in my recommendations of horror films I've been making, films that I've been watching here, they're not all Hollywood films. Some of them are French, some of them are Korean. There's Japanese. I would like to make one post that'll have at least 10. And I think I could get 10 that are Indian. My favorite Indian horror films of all time. I think I... I'm gonna do that. So you could go to my Instagram and you could see my list. I think I posted something on Twitter of my, I'm just trying to remember what I put as my... A good list of favorites. This is what are your top Indian scary style movies, mine, at least at the time. When was this? Like a week ago. Oh, okay. Recently. Stree, Boot, Bulbul, Tombad, Perry. It's called Lapa-choppy. That's the Marathi one. Yeah. And I know there's others. What about, where do you place... I interchange the titles because I think the titles are similar. So, Boot is the Rekha one. Yes. What's the name of the film that is just Manoj Bajpayee? Gaon. Thank you. Gaon. Gaon is another one for me that I include in classic Indian horror. Yeah. I wouldn't be my top five, but it'd be... Oh, also another one that I... Did you put Bulbul? Yes. Okay. Another one I really enjoyed was 1920. Oh. Yeah, it's a beautiful one. It's very similar in terms of style. It's more, it's funny. It doesn't immediately come to mind because it's so much more romance for me. But it is a beautiful... Thank you for reminding me of that one. I forgot about that one. Dang, I gotta go back and check my list. There's also kind of the Malayalam one we saw last year was a newer. I would also include the Malayalam one we saw this year. Actually, I just forgot about that with the Ouija board. Oh yeah. Because I really enjoyed that one. But that's like comedy horror style again. And what was the one with Radhika that had the intruder that she's hallucinating and not sure? Oh yeah. She was one... The reason to watch that is Radhika Opte's performance. Oh yeah, for sure. What was it called? See, we've seen quite a few. I'm actually surprised when we understood very early on that this is not a really popular genre in terms of what producers make. Yeah. The percentage of good films that we've seen that fall into the genre is really, really high. Yeah. Really high. The Malayalam one we saw was Boothika with... This year. ...Kumbalanjina. No. That's one of the... Suven is what that... Oh yeah, yeah, I'm sorry. That's right. That's right. Which I actually probably would include because I really enjoyed that one. But the one last year... Did you put Death and the Gunge as a horror film? No. Okay. No, I wouldn't. The one last year with the kid from Kumbalanjina. They're in the house and it's kind of haunted. Did I like it? Is that why I did? We both really enjoyed the movie. I'm sure if I saw the film. Anyway, we digress. Yeah, but this one, for what it did for the genre in Bollywood and also just overall, I thought it was really nice even though there's some just stuff I really didn't like in the end. Not the end part, like there's some of the parts of the end part I really, really enjoyed. Like the forest parts. But the redemption for the husband and him just falling and not dying 200 feet on the rocks. Like that was like... I was like, no, do not let him survive that. Do not let him survive that. And I think the story is so good that it could be modernized. And... Well, I think it has been. It not only could be modernized, it is a universal story. This story could be told anywhere at any time in any culture. And it has the potential if it was remade in the right way. The story is so good that I think this could be extraordinary if it was done in a new way with the visual effects capacities we have and things of that nature. The story is fantastic. I know there's at least Roz two, Roz three. And like I said, I don't know. I've not heard. I don't think I've heard anything that was like great about them. Yeah, I know Andrani didn't say a thing about them. Yeah, yeah, yeah. So I think it's like all the new saws. And yes, for anybody who's wondering because you know my wife is Bengali, she was born in Delhi, I believe, but she was raised in Bengal, Bipasha. So my, in fact, right in and around Andrani told me she was grew up in and around where Andrani grew up. Yeah, same part of Kolkata. There's a one that's directed and written by Vikram Bhatt called Roz Reboot and it's starring Imran Hashmi, which is cool. So yeah, I don't know anything about it. Is that worthy? Is it what I just said, a modernization of the stories, man. You guys let us know, obviously, let us know what other horror films that we should watch. Yeah. Obviously for this month, I would like to get to some, we're gonna get to go stories. Obviously don't, do not worry. Because we told that we didn't do it right after we saw. Right. I was like, we should wait for Spooky Month. Yeah. It's ghosts. Yeah. It'd be good. It would be good. But like what else from the genre? I don't know if any are gonna be like watch along worthy, but obviously we don't do just watch along. Obviously we're still doing reviews. Just so you guys know, even though I know you guys love the watch alongs, but I need to, when we do watch alongs, I like to make sure there's stuff that a bunch of people will enjoy for watch alongs. Cause they take a lot of time. They, it's what? It's three hours of filming. Hours and hours of editing. It's at least 10 times as long as us just watching and reviewing. Exactly. For Corbin to put that work into minimum. Yeah. So I like to make sure the films we do for watch alongs will appeal to more people. Absolutely. And for reviews, it could be anything. Yeah. Much more likely we could get something. Absolutely. That's just whatever. But yeah, let us know what other horror from Hindi or other languages as well. Please. And what you think of Raaz down below.