 That's new. Sounds good. We'll give it a little bit of time for people to show up. I think suspect since there was no agenda filled out, this is going to be a really, really fast meeting. But you know, You never know. You never know. We'll give, so I'll mark as far as I know as on vacation. And Oleg is continued to be unavailable for the media feature. So, yeah. Do you have anything you want to add to the agenda? Me. Yeah. No, not really. Just, just to explain that I have a difficult relationship with my calendar, but yes, I'm, I made it. So, yeah. Yep. So we were, we were saying we might want to reconsider time slots in September, but for the summer, we're just going to let whoever's available be available. Yeah. I'm going to just keep poking. I think. I mean, until people show up, there's not much to discuss. I'm just going to, I think what's a good, what's released for this week? It's 306. We are 308 this week, which makes sense. It was two weeks since the last one. Do you have anything you want to discuss about election support? Have you talked to anyone? Yeah, I just sent an email to Oleg. Asking for some information, basically for Oliver's email, because I don't have it. And I think it just fell into between other emails. So I don't have this, but if you have the, the mail, then that would be great. Yeah. So the, the email I just replied to from Oleg will have Olivia's email on it. Yeah. Fantastic. He also is back right there. There he is. Right there. Okay. So you, you dealt with the last election. Is that right? Yes. So are you talking about the addiction? Yeah, we just kind of. I don't know. We're out living it. Yeah. Because I said. Some weeks ago that maybe I, I can start doing something more and yeah, I, I, I think I'd like to, I'd like to help with the election. So it has to be started rather soon, I guess. And yeah, I was told there's a checklist or something that will help me do. Because I may, I may have to drop because I have some family urgencies. The thing is I started working on the addiction. I started to collecting all the links related to the addiction process. And I was like, what's the process is what we did one year ago, two years ago, and so on. And so I can share that with you. It's on the Jenkins info. I can be. So let me find the link. It's still draft. So at the moment I'm still trying to collect all the ideas. So it's not a final decision. And what I also try to identify is what's, what would be the timeline. I'm putting a link here. I hope that you can read the document. I think the most important, the most interesting thing at the moment is more about the links at the bottom of the page, more than what I wrote at this stage, because it's just about a draft at the moment. But yeah, I would like to start the election process in the coming week. So we start dominating people and so on. I can read the document. So that's, that's, that's going to be a good start. I started working at that last Friday. I would like to have some time this week. Turn this off. And then so I would like to find some time this week to continue working on this. And yeah, I would like to, to encourage other people to join, but I'm not sure. But so do you think you'd like to have a separate meeting that. I think it may be. So the thing is the way I, the way I see it is. We probably created a different meeting where we can just discuss about the election. What we want to change compared to what we did last year. Then we can validate the timeline. So I think the timeline need to be validated in the governance meeting probably into week. So let, let me just show my screen. So you can have a quick view of what I'm talking about. Just remember we are recording. Yeah, I know, I know. That's why I'm taking the right. That's why I want to say the right window. To my screen. Yeah. So basically in the process right now we have. It's moving out. So we have, we have to calculate. We have to identify who want to vote in the process. So what we did one year was to share a Google form where people could just register and we'll collect the email and then we send them the invitation for the part for the, for the, for the election. Two years ago we notify every email addresses that we have in the open that database, which is not something that I want to do again. So that's the part that we have to identify if we want to change the process compared to last year and how we want to improve. The second main idea was we used the condorser internet voting system to, to run the election. I think it worked correctly and I am not aware of a better tool at this time. So we probably will reuse it. But yeah, that's something that we have to, to identify. We then have the timeline, how we see the election. So typically the way it works is people are invited to nominate people for board as a board member or officer role. We close the nomination. We notify the different people who were nominated in the process. If they accept the nomination, then we ask them to provide a short description and what they want to do for the coming year. And then we have to notify all the people like we have, we have candidates and we would like invite people to vote for their best candidates. So that's, that's the main picture. So the timeline that I'm showing here is not the definite, I mean, it's not the final one. It's just, I try to just pick up some random dates just to be sure that we have enough time between the moment we nominated people and we close the nomination and so on. So this is just a draft at this stage. I was collecting the idea of which officer role we have. For instance, last year we identified that we were needed, we were needing, we needed the documentation officer. I guess that's something that we can discuss here or in another meeting. If we want to have more officer, less officer and so on, that's something that can change in the future. And yeah, otherwise at the end of the document that I started here are just links to either meeting notes that we had in the past or what we did for the process. So I see at the bottom you've mentioned specifically announced on community. As I'm totally in favor of it, and I think it should go in the announcement section. But the first time we ever use that announcement section, everyone on there is going to be blasted with an email. So I suspect we want to make, we are sorry, I want to make sure that we're good the first time because people will unsubscribe after that. Yeah, exactly. So I definitely agree with you. And the to do again, the to do is just a draft. And that's a good, that's, that's, I was going to specifically, I was going to specifically say we should do that, but I just want to make sure that we, you know, we plan a little bit ahead because after that first announcement, people will stop subscribing to announcements. Yeah, exactly. So the reason why I think it's the right time to start working on that is because if we want to have enough time between the moment we ask people to nominate potential candidates and the moment we really start the election where people can vote for the election. It usually takes several months. So yeah, between start a September and December that's, I mean, So the announcement will be that nominations are open and voting will happen on a certain day. Right. Yeah, exactly. So, so ideally I would like to have some sound. I was hoping to have something ready for them to announce something for today, but I think we should target for in two weeks. So if everybody now you want to participate in that, I would be really glad to, to organize a meeting with you. Definitely, definitely. Okay. So I've been filling out a bit of a denda. So we'll go in reverse because we started with elections the end. So hosting. I don't know if you all saw Alex's email. He's looking for someone to take over officially for hosting because no one actually did before. I volunteered to take it, but I'm going to do it in a incredibly reduced state because I can't commit to the same level he was doing. We're so if we're looking for any other, if you know anyone who would like to get more involved, let us know. But if by the end of the week, I haven't heard anything. I'll probably take over and just approve anything that isn't specifically should be not approved. Because I don't have the time to go. Code of view and deep dive like he does. Yeah, I think as long as we don't have really have other alternative at this time. Yeah. Eventually I want to move it to, as I said in the mail, to the permissions repository and have it all automated because right now the hosting process is kind of, especially when you take over an old plugin, it's very annoying because you have to get approval in like four different places and meet people through many of the things. But I won't be doing that till the fall or next year anyway. So. Otherwise news, the only news I can pick up based on previous things is that the Jenkins 3.8 was released. I linked in the meeting minutes, the actual change lock. And the only other topic I had that I'm going to propose, postpone until the next meeting is commercial support. I think it's very important to get us to have a natural up to date list of people who can provide commercial support to end users. But I think we want a little bit more discussion than other, other than just being like, yep, we're going to put it. And I don't think. I don't think we're going to be able to do that. So. Two and a half board members. Three board members is the right people to talk. Well, Olivia is a. Officer, not a board member. And he's, and it's kids around. So I figured between the two, he's somewhere in the half mark. Two and three quarters. How about that? I do agree. We can, we can wait for a little bit more people to be presented. So, yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you have any questions, if you need to discuss or bring up. You can chat about elections, but I think it'd be better to talk during time zones that were better for you. And we can call it. Sorry. Yeah. But then Oliver, I'll, I'll, yes, I agree. We can, we can, we can finish the meeting for now. And I'll just drop you a message. Or. Yeah. So we can start talking about when, when to actually. If anyone else is involved and then we'll. See how much I can help. Okay. Good. That sounds good. I can send you an invite tomorrow. And I'll communicate about that meeting on this, on the discourse so other people can join as well. Very good. Very good. Okay. Is there anything else? Nope. Nope. Okay. Well, let's call it officially at 1213 for me. Bye. Thank you. Bye. Bye. Bye.