 Ellen, we're here at Mechanics Hall in the ballroom with some brand new banners you've created. Tell us about them. Well, I have here a baker's dozen of banners, 12 plus one, that have been created in various ways. Most of them were done in collaboration with some of the worker groups here in Portland, both formal associations such as labor unions and informal groupings of workers. USM students were also involved in making many of these banners. This has been over about a year and it started because my father wrote about the original 1841 banners in the early 1990s, I believe it was. And he described to me the way these early banners were paraded on Congress Street and the visual image of that was just so striking to me that I have kept it in my mind for many years and this opportunity to recreate or create a new series of banners that are inspired by the historic ones seemed to be the right time to do that. The historic banners represented different groups of makers here that were part of the mechanical associations, is that right? Yes, they were the cobblers, shoemakers, coopers, shipwrights, printers, those were the original banners. These banners are in some cases of those same groups, the coopers for example, there's a coopers banner, there's a luthier's banner, there wasn't an original luthier's banner but we do have a luthier's banner this time, there's a baker's banner, but some of these groups are not some of the original banner groupings but they just happen to be the groups of people that found me and wanted to work with me to do this. And what do these banners tell you, what kind of story are you trying to convey today and perhaps going forward? I'm wanting to create a thread with the past, I'm honoring the Mechanics Hall and the association, wanting to make sure that Portland reserves a place for the diversity of workers, different kinds of people working very different kinds of jobs, I'm hoping that that continues as part of Portland's future and I'm also hoping that Labor Day could possibly incorporate in the future a celebration that brings out all different kinds of working people in Portland to the streets and provides an occasion for them to display pride in what they do. And we're here on Labor Day weekend, the Friday before Labor Day weekend, what's your plan for this evening? To march these banners down the street. Between here and Monument Square, we're actually going on the sidewalk, but we have a nice wide sidewalk between here and Monument Square, so we may not make it all the way to City Hall, it depends, we haven't had much of an opportunity to rehearse actually carrying these out in the elements, so this year, this time, it's going to be a short parade from here to Monument Square and back. And maybe in the future something bigger? Maybe, hope so.