 On the breakfast, President Mohammed Buhari charges the National Institute of Policy and Strategic Studies to surpass the best think tanks policy institutes in the world. Also on the breakfast, I need to meet with the Nigerian Communication Commission to discuss identified blind spot in transmission of the 2023 result. Don't forget to also be going through today's newspaper headlines and analyzing the biggest stories of the day on the breakfast. And we're back with the breakfast and plus TV Africa. It's a beautiful Tuesday morning, reaching live from our studios right here on Victoria Island Lagos. My name is Kofi Bartels. Welcome. And I am messable for this good to have you join us this beautiful Tuesday morning. All right, we'll start off with a top training segment before we go to a major conversation this morning. I said the paper review in between mercy. I want you to help me pronounce the word J-A-P-A. I'm sure you know the name. How do you pronounce the word J-A-P-A? Jack Bar. Jack Bar. It's not Jack Bar. Jack Bar. Jack Bar. Okay. Is Jack Bar a Yoruba word? This becomes synonymous with the traveling abroad, the relocation of Nigerians because of the economic situation, political situation in the country, either or the two together. I hear it's a Yoruba word that means run. You know that social media, I think Tik Tok or Instagram video where somebody just come and then there's somebody singing their voice, you hear a voice saying run, let me start running. So if anyone wants to leave the country, say I'm done with the country at the airport to take a selfie, they say they are Jack Bar in, they are Jack Bar in. We can ask you, so this is training because the video can't quite tell when it was shot, we told the French ambassador to Nigeria wanted to know the meaning of Jack Bar and it got a brilliant answer. So we'll just play that. I'd like to hear the lady pronounce the word herself. Quite interesting. Let's go. Jack Bar in Yoruba, say I'm in Yoruba, Jack Bar in Yoruba, a word that describes to the character of the Yoruba series, describes the character of the Yoruba series of Nigerians. And in that sector, it means that the Nigerians were on our gifts, gifts, prayers, with Oh my God. It seemed like he was just trying to give a diplomatic coloration, diplomatic meaning to the word Jack Bar. He said we want to take our skills, our abilities, our dates, and export it to the world. I'm sure since he's talking to a foreigner, the French ambassador, a white woman, we want to go to Yoruba, Yoruba in this part of the world. Maybe he's giving her all looks, you know, packaged, packaged, let's call it a packaged definition, but the people there were laughing because they know that he's not just exporting our skills so well. People are packing their go-go, their loads, right? No. And they're running away. But if you look at it, so yesterday when I went through, you know, the comments and all of that, really interesting and some people were worried about the fact that the young man was a joke, you know? Why would he be making a joke out of a serious question that the lady asked? And if you look at the lady, she was smiling when she asked the question. I mean, the French ambassador, she was all laughing. It's even possible that she knows what it means, but maybe, you know, she wanted some kind of humor around it. And I'm sure that the young man never expected that kind of question. So it was really good. One would want to say that young man should be an ambassador, you know, of Nigeria. Trying to put out the story there, not necessarily painting a bad light of the country or putting us in a bad light or putting out the story entirely there, which is also not wrong. I mean, if you look at most of the persons who are leaving the country, they are skilled, you know, they have all it takes. They are resilient, talented Nigerians leaving the country, most of them. And so I think that he took him by surprise. So it was quite a lot of creativity to come out. Put out all of that thoughts and then try to convince her. I like the fact that he actually saw Nigeria in a good light, you know, in all of that. Because, I mean, we understand what it is, but it's also not a way from the reality. He's such, you know, a delight to look at if you ask me. Absolutely. Absolutely. You know, it's not every time you, you know, you complain, you know, you speak ill of the country. You sometimes you have to, you have to be in such form, you know, while you say it as it is, but you also look for diplomatic way to put things because, you know, you don't want to be spoiling the mood. And I think he's out, you know, it's a bit of sarcasm there, you know, but I'm sure that everybody gets the point. You know, everybody gets the point. It's just like the president of Kenya, William Ruto, an interview that's been trending on social online, on YouTube in particular, where he sat with Christina Mampo, CNN, and was asked about same-sex marriages and relationships and rights in Kenya, and he answered it diplomatically. You know, he was basically saying, no, we won't have that in Kenya, but he used diplomacy, tact and diplomacy to answer that. So, I think he said it. He said it all. Nobody can fault this gentleman. I mean, he brought humor to the entire thing. Even he said that for how he kept his school, he's kept his composure and was able to do justice to the question that he wasn't prepared for. Let's move on to the next one very quickly. This is a class presentation gone wrong at the Krumlea Adjasi University where Akoko, where lecturer and his students had to run for their life. This is something that you can only see maybe in movies. We had terrorists pulled up for lectures in understate. My God. Let's go to that. We have to report that this is user-generated content. The first video, of course, the quality was low. I will apologize for that, but it's user-generated content, and that's why. The second one is, of course, you had music background, user-generated content, and that's why. But we have to avoid speculation that may lead to misinformation. But what we're putting out is what the people who were there, they shared on their statuses and all that. They felt that the person who you see in the camouflage with a bandage around his face was a terrorist. It kind of reminds me of Kanye West, how he covers his face. I was a terrorist. This is understate. I don't know if there's a bandage tree or terrorism in understate. I think we had some attacks. You remember those attacks in a war? Always in understate. So I do not know if that is part of them. But someone said, so this is what happened. We have a political science presentation, and the group was to present on terrorism. They decided to do the presentation in a different way. Look, like to portray the whole terrorism thing now. Some guys came in from the back with uniform and guns and scarves around their neck acting like terrorists, which was unknown to everyone. Or more people ran out, got injured, someone fainted, me say if I ran under the chair, started shouting, blood of Jesus, my mind went straight up to the over stuff. Class don't scatter or shout because some people, phones got spoiled in the process, escaping and some got injured. I mean, so you can look at that. Probably the lecture was so strange to have some, the practicals, you want to call it that. But this is the situation here. Like I said, understate message had its own fair share of, you know, terrorist incidents in recent times. I'm not even surprised that, you know, that's from the Department of Political Science. It should have been from... It should have been meteorites maybe. No, no, but I'm not even surprised that, you know, it's the Department of Political Science that's putting out that stunt across the country. A lot of people, students would want to agree that this department is extra. But would you blame the people? I mean, actually some of you were in that situation. And if you know the current situation that we're in and the things that are happening, you would tick off. Now, recently, University of Calaba, I think that was Unical. I'm not sure if it was Unical or Crutek, one of them. Is it an initiation? No, it wasn't an initiation. No, it wasn't. There were reports. No, I don't know why that didn't really have the media presence as it should. But there was a video that went viral. This was not a joke. There were unknown gunmen who stormed the school and people were just running. People were just... I mean, we live in, you know, difficult times. Unical has had its own fair share of... They come in from the Calaba River. Those bad guys. So we live in difficult times and that's what it is. Trust me. Ask yourself. Why are we going back to talking about it? But imagine that you were in that school. Me, I would tick off. There was no joke about it. Everybody wanted to run because we see the news. We hear the story and you want to imagine, especially, but it was an act. And even also with the fact that these days you have a lot of skid makers making skids and you don't want to take that for granted. But it also shows that there's a lacuna. We need to up up security. We need to beef it up. I don't know if you understand. So I don't know at what point, if when these guys came into the school, or it was when they went to the classroom or somewhere and then they got changed and what have you, because these things can actually happen. I don't know if you understand. So we can also take out the fact that we need to beef up security across different institutions, our schools, what have you, because I looked at that video. I remember that video that made it. It was a satin university. I think it was Crutec. I'm still trying to remember if it was Crutec or Unical. Yes. This is a big one. The video that had the music that we had, you can see the inscription on the screen where the person said, presentation gone wrong, lecture gone wrong. So people have lost their phones. People have lost their, I've got an injured. For this gentleman, what if you had an agent, a secret service agent, SSS in the audience, who was part of the class, but he was there with his piece. He had a piece on him. I think you pulled the trigger. I mean, what if he said, oh, God, this is all over again and he brings it out, maybe the school said, okay, just be around, just to protect the institution. And then maybe he just brings it out. God, God. Who will we blame? It's very important in this time where the country will live in for institutions to always give warnings when they have things like that. When the military are having their shooting at the military shooting range, it may be quite a distance from the city center. Have you been around? No matter how far it is, whether it's in terms of perimeter fence and everything, they will still tell the public, oh, we're going to be having a shooting exercise, training, routine, blah, blah, blah. From this day at this time, please don't panic, go about your local activities. So I think a warning, some sort of warning should have been given to the students so that no one would lose their lives. People's phones have gotten destroyed because of the economy. Which house would they go to? How much would they pay to treat themselves? I love invention. I love creativity in teaching. I love it. But, you know, we need to have certain precautions. So we don't endanger the lives of the people who are the actors and those who are the students. Very valid, very valid points as you have actually raised. But it actually would appear more like I mean, the kidnap industry, you want to call it that in this country, has been a big one. She looked at those in the terrorism circular sector. Those engaged in terrorism in Banditry have resorted to kidnaping to further their activities. In fact, they have surely left the terrorism in the religious aspect of it, if it's political aspect of it. On kidnaping, you know. Down south, we've had a kidnaping epidemic for some years which has been surpassed by what's happening in the northern part of the country. So it's a big issue. Well, the latest is that suspected government on Sunday kidnapped the Commissioner for Housing and Urban Development in Benway State. A very fine young man, Chief Ekpe Ogbu really sat. He wasn't kidnapped alone. He was kidnapped along with him. Still be signed by the Social Democratic Party candidate for the House of Assembly seats in a door state constituency. Orirri or Cheje Richard said that Ogbu was kidnapped alongside Hon. O'Lago Ode, one of his in-laws and his driver. He said to himself, cross your names because they share border across the state. It's really sad. I just hope that the man will be connected to his family. Now according to the statement he was, or they were kidnapped along David Mack's farm. I'm sure that's a road. After Aqbah Otobi while on their way from Otaupo to Uthongon in Adolo Co. Cabinet in Benway State. It's really sad. It just reminds me of the conversation I had with Nika Guley just before we got on the show. And then he was asking if I've ever been to Benway. I mentioned vividly that I've been to Benway to be precise Otaupo. And trust me getting to Otaupo wasn't even a joke. It was really... Because you travelled from Canapah? No, seriously. Apart from that, getting to Otaupo. You don't even want to hear the stories about Otaupo at the time. It was scary. The car that we're driving was very, how do I even put it highly secured car. It was portable. Was it bulletproof? Let's not even get into all of that. But the fact that the first skirt that we got was that people stopped. Security persons actually stopped. But of course in all of the interaction, you could notice that these guys were up to something very crazy. And just approaching Benway itself, there was a lot of scare. You have to be careful. We had to break the journey in Boko. What do you think? I don't remember. Our pleasurable memories of Benway. So the thing is the journey was actually we had to cut the journey into two. So first we needed to stop at Boko. So we had to sleep at Boko. And even in the hotel that we checked into there was a lot of warning that you have to be careful. So it was like, we're even scheduled to check in. Was it recently maybe? No, it's not quite. It's 10 years ago. My point here is not necessarily to castigate Benway State or any past ones. But I'm just saying that generally security is a major issue for our country in Nigeria. But it seems to say that Benway State is unsafe from what you experienced. No, from that time. Do you know how long it is? It's not up to 10 years. The thing is, it's not up to 10 years but it was really scary at the time. I mean, that was my first experience. You don't want to see it. I've had very pleasurable experiences of Benway State as the breadbasket of Nigeria. Please, when I say pleasurable, don't misunderstand me. It means that we had a experience. No, that's fine. It didn't mean that it wasn't pleasurable. It's just a coincidence that we're talking about Utopo, we're talking about Benway. And then yesterday, Nika Gule who was in Benway State was also asking have I been there? And then it was the year before and all of that. So it's coming. That's why I'm talking about it. So you also had the same view that it was probably it helps security challenges. Yeah, it helps security challenges. Which I think is... In recent time, indeed, you need to look at the attacks in the head of a crisis. Yeah, in recent times. Definitely mercy. But you have to tell me what you went to Benway to do. We'll talk about that. No, no, no. Don't say it on it. My point is, we have to go. But security is very important. And if you look at the constitution, the reason government actually exists is that government will protect lives and properties. Absolutely. We have to run because of time. And that's on top of the list. And so we cannot neglect that. Government of all quarters should pay attention to the issue of security. All right, thank you. I'll be right back.