 Wel, gan y toffi TV, er is dda'r match prefiw Everton v Arsenal. This Saturday 12.30 at Goodersham Park, joined by Steve Kelly. Steve, the battle of the caretaker managers, it looks like at the time of recording this, both clubs look as though they're about to appoint new managers. Looks like Everton are going to appoint Carlo Ancelotti and it looks like Arsenal are going to appoint Nicola Teta, but neither of those deals have been confirmed yet. So, it will be Ferguson versus Lungberg, it looks like at the moment. Arsenal are not on a great run of form. Everton have picked up a little bit under Duncan Ferguson, but still it's off game for us, isn't it? Definitely. I think, obviously, Arsenal's front line with a Bamiang, Glockers, Pepe, that's where they worry me, but anything else apart from that, really, I think we can match them. Obviously, since Lungberg's coming in, it hasn't really had probably the effect that he thought it might have when he got a bit of memory. It's had probably the opposite towards it's had for us. We've had a big uplift, so a big dunk. It's come in and they've just stayed the same, really, since Lungberg's coming in. But it's hard for them, isn't it? Because we don't know what Arsenal's problems are. It's been the same problems for five, six, seven years, defensive problems, and it's hard for a caretaker to go in and really change off from his point of view. So, it's going to be a tough game. They've got goals in the team, and obviously we're lacking a bit of confidence at the back at the moment. We've obviously keen and mean a last night as well. So, it's going to be a tight game, I think. I think there'll be goals. But I think it's got to get into them early, unsettle them. If we do that, I think we can go on and win the games, definitely. It will be a tough game. They've got the, you know, Pepe, he's obviously a good player. He hasn't done as well as he had hoped so far, but he's come into a new league and all that. He's scored against Westampton. He's a good player, no doubt about it. The two-frontman, Lachezette, and a Bamianga brilliant. Bamianga's incredible. But, yeah, elsewhere on the pitch, they're not defensively the poor, and I think, you know, the Arsenal fans would say that and can see that themselves. You know, when David Luise is someone you look to to sort your defence out of the tennis shoe, isn't it? Goalkeepers, a bit hot and cold, they know he can be brilliant and then other times. But you're right, it's about everything, matching, being able to get in amongst them, and, you know, obviously Arsenal will have had the weak to prepare for it, so their legs may be a bit fresher than us, they've probably got more players to choose from. Duncan Ferguson's had a battle on with a limited number of players, you know, those eight players missing from the Leicester game in the cup in the weak. Hopefully, Sidder being sick, it's not being available to join the squad for the weekend and make it a little bit stronger. Fabian Delth has got an outside chance of being involved in the squad as well. Realistically, I think he may play Sidder being anti-gatan at the weekend, I think he might make. Cos I think you need to put legs in the team, don't you? You can't continue to just go with the same lad to know that you can put another shifting cos they've ran themselves into the ground the last three games. But it's a game that I feel we can win. It'll be tough, it'll be tough. You know, we've had two clean sheets in the opening two games and in the 15 Premier League matches, we've conceded at least once in 14 of the last 15. So, you know, we're doing a clean sheet, it's been a while since we had a clean sheet, obviously. Arsenal have won more Premier League games and scored more Premier League goals against Everton than they have against any other team. And that record is for quite a few teams, actually. We seem to be quite a soft touch. We love giving people records, don't we? But, you know, in fact, you have to go back to the 80s to find the last time we won consecutive home games against Arsenal. So it's about time that changed, isn't it? In April when we beat them, we competed really well, we matched them and then, in the end, we should have beat them comfortably. The most probably comfortable one, though, I think you'll see. You'll see, yeah. They had a little spell off their half-time and Adam Ramsay come on and they had a couple of opportunities and then other than that, they've been at the races and they haven't got to make it like that this weekend. In terms of Arsenal, and Miquel Ar Tete, who's, you know, he's an unknown quantity daily, he's as a football manager. We know he's being pepoiled, the oldest assistant for the last three seasons. He's highly rated and all that. Even if he's confirmed as the manager, he's probably not going to have too much time to be able to alter much in terms of Saturday. It's going to be difficult for him, isn't it, because obviously he's transferring those a couple of weeks away still. They're not playing with any amount of confidence. They've only won one game in 10, I think it is, or something like that. They're away records, just as bad as Arsenal's, I think, as well. They've won the last time out there to be fair, last time they beat West Ham 3-1. What do you think he can do for them? I'll be honest with you, I don't think... I think their attacking pre-house is really good. Not many better than the league probably. I think he's going to have problems until he can actually get his way of how he wants them to play. It's very easy saying that he was with Pep, which is fair enough, but not many teams can play like Man City, not many teams can play like Barcelona, like they did under Guardiola. Arsenal's biggest problem is they've got no one who's shadow, who sits in front of the back for it and does it in a disciplined way. So it's going to be hard. There's a lot of dead wood that Arsenal would say probably going to have to get rid of before you actually see the way Arsenal want them to play, I think. I think you could see a tough six months from Arsenal. I really do. I don't think it's going to be... he's going to come in and everything's going to change. If you look at City when Guardiola come in and took him a year until he's got his stamp on the club and he had to spend money, and I get the impression with Arsenal that they're going to have to spend money to get where he wants them to get because they're way off at the moment. They're probably very similar to us. So it's going to be a tough job for the club. I think he's got a big job on his hands and it's whether he's got the mental toughness as a manager to do it and to convince those players of the way he wants to play. We're all getting this impression that he wants to play like Guardiola. We don't know at the end of the day but that's the impression that's coming across that he wants that way of playing. That's what you'd have to say. You'd have to say that or you'd have to think rather that he would mirror what he's been doing at City. You're right, there's not many teams can play like City Arsenal having spent anywhere near the money that City spent and are they going to spend anywhere near that amount of money to get it? Have they got the players there now who are good enough to do it? No, they're not. So you'd have to start my solid base. Suppose there's a first challenge you'll be trying to get the defence organised and maybe bring a centre back in. They've got in some respects a bit similar to us really in that they need to get the spine of the team shorted and kind of go from there. At times they can be great Arsenal the way they play for you but at other times they're very soft centred. You need to cheat in the last 14 games as well. Doesn't surprise you. Both teams aren't great defensively. Everton have scored a league high this year 65% of their Premier League goals in the first half of games this season. Meanwhile only the bottom three sides have conceded more goals in the open in 45 minutes than Arsenal. I would have thought Everton had scored more goals in the second half than the first half. Both teams are not great defensively because we've had to change our defence a lot. We've had Mason Holgate and Gerri Mina seem to be a better fit for each other. But obviously we've lost midfield play so Holgate has to come out of the defence and go into midfield. Llewka Dines out of Leighton Bains is in. Arsenal have lost Cair and Tainey so they've had people like Chainbus centre back and Socrates and Louis. They've mixed and matched as well. That's the biggest indicator when teams are unsettled, when the back four changes regularly. Sometimes it's injury and other times it's someone looking for consistency. I think you and I, we just couldn't get that balance and ultimately lost his job. You're right, Lungberg, we're probably looking for a little bit of a bounce. The last four results, they drew at Norwich, they lost their home to Brighton, they passed them 3-1 and then they ended up getting 3-0 by Manchester City. A mixed bunch again since he's been in charge. You would have thought he would have had a bit of a bigger impact of him being the invincible and all that. But it's like you said though, if they haven't got the players if they haven't got the players to do the kind of thing you want them to do, it's difficult isn't it? You can give players energy, or you can try something different that the other manager wasn't trying to try and get a little bit of confidence going, but if you've only got a certain type of player, then you have to ask the question, what do you and I, Emery, have done any better? We'll say that now, and they wanted them out for a reason. Maybe they're a bit disappointed with how long it's taken to secure the new manager. I was surprised, I really was surprised, that they didn't make more of a play for Ancelotti to be honest with you. He feels like he would have been there a good fit for them as well. Lifted in London, we fork our house in London and things like that, so I thought they might go for him. If I was them, and now Brendan Rodgers was tipped very heavily to go there, and I don't know whether Arsenal didn't want to pay the buyout clause for them. I don't know whether Arsenal are a bigger club than Arsenal with a bigger potential show. You would have a match if you would have gone there. Whether they thought that he was a bit of a gamble, I don't know, but he's a good manager. But I really thought he'd go for Emery, because he went as a manager. I really did, and I thought he's a really good fit for them, he's a well-respected coach. Did he try to get him a thing before that? One stuff, and I think he'd have been. You look at some managers and you think they shoot that club, and I think he'd have done really good for them. Especially for what they're needing as well. A solid base in Emery build. But I don't know whether they might have inquired about him, he might want to stay in Italy, or he might want a different job. I don't know, but I would have thought if he wanted to try his luck somewhere else, Arsenal would have been a good club. You think with Arsenal as well, is he really going to bring that stability that you're asking for? It's a flip of a coin, isn't it? To be fair, it is with most managers. He could be absolutely brilliant for them, or he could be the wrong decision to make for them, because it's a big job and there's a lot of scrutiny around Arsenal because they are a big club. And he's never had any of that experience before. Sometimes it works well, other times it backfires. We won't know until he's been in Nathan this season anyway, because regardless of how this season goes, whether it be good, bad or indifferent, it's still a honeymoon period or whatever. So if it goes really well, you have to be a big course, just like with Oli Gunnar Solciaire. And if it goes not great, you also have to be a big course just because he's got to try to get his points across to the players and all of that. So, in terms of Everton, Duncan Ferguson has been confirmed to be in charge for the Arsenal game of the weekend. I mean, it's what we expected anyway, it's by the time of doing this, it's Thursday, it's too late really, for any manager to do anything really now with the team. So Duncan, he kind of said at his press conference, he expected to be in charge. I think he said it and realised he'd said it and he didn't mean to confirm it. It is what it is, but for him, we spoke on the final word on the game about the impact he's had on it. In terms of if it is Carlo Ancelotti coming into that, how do you see those two working together? Cos obviously one, when you see Ancelotti, Oli seems very calm and controlled on the line and Duncan's very much has been very much passionate as well as showing good tactical now. Do you think they could be a good fit? I do, I think Duncan can learn so much from him. I think you've got the calmness and the thinker in Ancelotti. You've got Duncan, he looks like he's got that thinking side but he's also up and about on the touch line demanding off the players as much as possible. And I think from Duncan's point of view I think with Ancelotti coming in there's not many better CVs in the game if you're looking at a CV and I think Duncan can definitely learn so much from the man his knowledge is obviously AC Milan by Munich Chelsea so I think it will be a good match and obviously Ancelotti's worked with a club legend type thing before when he was at Chelsea with Ray Wilkins and he also employed a lot of other youth team coaches who were at Chelsea like things like Jody Morris, Eddie Newton all them type of people were brought into the club so I think for Duncan it's going to be massive for him and it will hopefully develop him into our next manager after and if Ancelotti gets the job. As for Saturday then what do we have to do to win this game in your opinion? I think getting early goal early goal is important I think that the game is going to be one at the top end of the pitch for both teams midfields are pretty similar I'd say I don't think they've really got much creativity in the centre of the park they've got very same-same to their Gwendoosie Gwendoosie and Jacka and we've got obviously what we've got at the moment I mean do you expect Siggins to come back into that start? If he's fit yeah I think he might come in for Tom Do you think we'll go 4-4-2 again? Or do you think he may go with what we finished against Leicester with 4-3-3? Yeah I think he might go with what we finished what we finished against Leicester I think Duncan's demand on Saturday is to give him one big last push and send Duncan off on a high rather than like we don't want the memory of obviously Wednesday with the penalty shootout I think Duncan will be demanding that we get all three points and he goes out with seven points and three games which is a brilliant return if he can so I think an early goal and we've got to be very wary of them on the break as well with Pepe, Obamiong, Lacazette, whoever they decide to go with so yeah I just think we need to punish them if we get a chance we need to take our chances Do you think we need to sit deep and not give them space cos Obamiong is like we'll prepare them a bit It depends obviously how they set up as well as they've been playing for them much recently as well so I think we do their pace Obamiong's ridiculously pace on the break and it depends they might defend deep and play on the break a type of way of playing so I think we'll probably have to defend deep due to the pace of our centre box I can see us giving them the ball because of they will naturally play possession football cos that's what playing from the back of the goalkeeper we've kind of knocked that in the head the last couple of weeks where we're just getting the ball forward as quick as possible and they won't like it, they won't like it getting stuck into them last season and Dom absolutely tore that socrates to bits and I think he'll fancy it I think this is the game these kind of games he fancies and I think the crowd will be up for it for all of the reasons you've just said Duncan's last game, they're a big side so it's an exciting game and it's an opportunity for everyone if they could win get higher up the table pull ourselves up like that we go point behind them if we won so it's a chance to get into that middle section of the league it puts us into a few more favourable fixtures then well it does and listen these are dangerous on the break I like the look of Martin and Ellie they've got some good willx good exciting play they've got good exciting players but it's the midfield and to the defence where the problems are lying he could be like this, could be like a 3-2 either way hopefully for us we can hang on and beat them because it's get stuck into them early on they don't like it at all they'll never like it when you get into them early listen to the football and see and that's the way it is they like to play football and if you can do a little bit of what we did against Chelsea and get tackles in then they will make mistakes and then we can beat them Chelsea for me are a better side than Arsenal certainly at the moment and we were very good against Chelsea so there's no reason why we can't maybe repeat that feat on Saturday but it will be very difficult and like you said just go out give Duncan a big performance the crowd will play their part we could potentially have the new manager and the stands as well to show the new manager as well because there's players not saying there's futures on the line but there's certain players who will probably need to start up in the game to show the new manager what they can do we have to be worthy of that as well of course for them because if McAllar Tether is confirmed and I'm sure he will be by the time the game is kicked off then they'll be trying to impress him as well but we've got the crowd and everything else with us home advantage hopefully we'll separate when we go there it's normally the home advantage favours them very much nice little half 12 kickoff let's get in, get up for it and let's get a great positive result for Chris send Duncan out on a high let us know what you think in the comments section below about this one tough game for both sides really it could be both caretaker managers final game in charge of the club whether you're confident ask the fans are you confident if you're watching this subscribe if you haven't give the video a thumbs up join us on Patreon if you want more great videos big thanks to Steve for coming and joining me see you later