 I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible, with liberty and justice for all. Let's see. Is Kelly going to be with you as she is off? No. Okay. And you said Tony was going to be a few minutes late. Correct. Great. Moving on to additions to the agenda. So under Consent Agenda, there will be WHS Cheer Fundraiser under Old and New Business. Number six, adopt BOA policy, Animals and Plants in School, Animals in the Classroom and Procedures for Service Animals. And then under Personnel, for 1A, we'll do an executive session for non-elected personnel to discuss the maintenance and transportation. Is there a motion to approve the additions to the agenda? So also in a second, is there any discussion? Alright, motion passed. And just before we get started on some bolts, I just wanted to remind everybody that when we're talking and somebody else's got the floor, that we're just going to go ahead and let them finish what they have to say and speak their piece and then move on to the next person on the floor. So is everybody okay with that? Alright. So audience with patrons, what's that? Patrons? You need to approve the additions, but I need to move to approve the Consent Agenda. Oh, yeah. Yeah, sorry. I was just going to... She was there, yeah. That was a blow. So are there any reports? Okay. Alright, so the Consent Agenda. Is there a motion to approve the Consent Agenda? Is there a second? Do you have a second? Is there any discussion? Alright. Motion approved. Oh, I'm sorry. All opposed? Okay. Motion approved. Moving on to Olden New Business. Re-opening plan. Okay. Brad? Hey Ray, can you hear us? Yes, we can hear you. Yeah, perfect. We can hear you. So just some things we've talked about from our reopening plan. We talked about it back in May of last year, an X-Tin COVID, which was reviewed, and then have been updated on the particulars. And this is that X-Tin plan that we talked about. We did the highlight nearer yet is where we've made some changes from our last board meeting based upon the new federal law that KSD had given or told us about and came out about in regards to masks on vehicles, so many of our vehicles. The people inside would have to wear a mask. And then we will continue with the established protocols and the responsibility of wearing masks will up to be the individuals. And then we did talk about what we can control and that's part of the reason, too, with our energy performance contract, the ESP being here to talk some about that, as well as we're going to inform the disinfecting plan and returning to normalcy. The county health department would be continuing to be utilized to help with isolation, quarantine peace, diagnostic and screw-testing vaccines, appropriate accommodations. Then the other portion of this that we had discussed was, I had them all together at one time, I could set to test. So through the case department of health and environment, the ability to have an opt-in to test as far as the anti, or excuse me, engine rapid testing procedure. And then that was outlined and we have had a few that have signed up for that consent to test. And the last piece of it is, if I didn't have 45 things open, I would be able to pull that immediately for you. And this portion of it, the test to know, test to stay and learn, and test to stay, play and participate. And these deals specifically in regards to quarantines. And so we have also, through the K Department of Health and Environment, have obtained and received information that we obtained our grant. So we have the grant to be provided for our district COVID coordinator, who does have a background in the CNA work, so has some medical background doubt and would be doing the testing portion of that. Also with that is the fact that we have all the supplies paid for and it is a rapid engine test. Then there are things that happen with the positives that we would continue just as we talked about previously in regards to what happens with the County Health Department. So are there any questions or concerns or are no aspirated to be available to discuss some of this with us? And if there's any questions from Ray or anything, Ray that you'd like to say is open. I would encourage if you got any positive tests that you send them someplace where they can get a PCR test. Yes. For two reasons. One, the PCRs are a little bit more accurate. The Bionics test now that you have, there is over 9%, but the PCRs are just a little bit better in that regard. And then the other thing is they can test range off of the PCRs, which in other words, and that's something that the state's being on right now is what strain do you have if you do come up positive? And so they're trying to track these variants and pretty hard right now just thinking. And then Delta Strain brought that out on it. So it's just more information. It's no more invasive on the person that tested positive. Other than the second test, there's a few more to... Any more verdict on that person? Right. And part of the training that we haven't gotten to this point with KDHE is for that second PCR, our PCR test portion with the positives that that's part of that grant as well and for that second piece. And we haven't gotten all of the required training yet from the Department of Health and Environment. We've been in contact with them, and they've been officially trained as so. Appreciate you saying that because that's exactly what they told us to do. I mean, in that, it's like you guys got a very, a pretty solid plan and all we can do is see how it works. I didn't expect to be sitting where we're at COVID at this point. I figured with me on the downswing which we were, it really is a big idea. Yeah. Could you, Brad, could you approve the progression of testing and what that would look like of the stigma against COVID? Yeah. Well, first of all, the portion that have to be was that after having a consent to opt in and they can opt in the day that they find out if they choose to do that. And then the progression would be the fact that they have the antigen test, the 15-minute test done to find out. And then is the situation with close contact with quarantines. Then that information is presented. There's vaccination, no quarantine necessary, where to mask, no quarantine necessary. Quarantine at home for 10 days from that exposure. From last exposure with the known testing, but if you do the testing portion of it, then be tested 10 days in a row for a negative test. Tested every day. Correct. I'm ongoing then for 28. Correct. That is correct. Tractinated? No. So you're not getting tested at all? Correct. No quarantine necessary. Is that aligned with what the county does, Brad? That form of testing? Right. The question was, the 10 days of negative testing to remain in school and not have to quarantine does not align with what the county does. Brad, you don't test every day for negative in that sense to you? No. Basically what we do is we we hope you out for 10 days. We put you in quarantine for 10 days. If you was running out of that quarantine a little bit early, then you'd be getting these on the 8th. Yeah, it broke up quite a bit there. What I can do, I can try that again. Quarantine with no test. We just keep in card. They stay in contact to see if you develop any symptoms. If you were running out of quarantine a little bit quicker, you can test on the 6th day. And if that goes back negative and you still have no symptoms, you could be released on the 8th day. Is that a candidate? Is that based on KDHE guidance? Or is that just? Yes. And that's what's stated in there. As well. And, you know, this is KDHE grant that you're there in partner. So this is also KDHE guidance? Correct. This is KDHE grant. In their guidance. Now, the only thing that I do see here that I missed it the first time I read through it is you've got definition of a close contact with six foot for a total of 15 minutes or more. State, the last time I did it was 10 minutes or more. Is there, where did you get your 15 minutes at? I believe from KDHE, but I couldn't, that could be wrong. What can we look at? Okay. And then the other thing that we're able to do is if somebody, the idea is if you have concerns you can get tested and quote, there will be no penalty as long as it's negative. So more people then coming forward to be tested. Because if you don't do this, people are going to be to a point of I'm not going to get tested, I'm not going to do anything because I don't want to be quarantined, so this is again, a positive to try to help keep kids in school which is our main responsibility keep people safe on both sides and also to provide them to be able to participate in the sense of normalcy for their school year. It says here CDC is a total of 15 minutes but KDHE is 10. Did you hear that right? No. It says on the internet that CDC is 15 minutes and KDHE is 10. Okay. Okay. Yeah. KDHE was 10 minutes. I can do some research on the difference between the two. If you want me to. I think it's okay. Thank you. Okay. CDC still recommends communities of masks for children in schools. Is that accurate? Right, the question is CDC still recommends the use of masks in school. Yes. Whether vaccinated or unvaccinated. We both right now. Right. That's the difference too that CDC is recommending is that even though you're immune from quarantine they suggest that vaccinated person wear a mask in the next 10 days just in case but I don't know that KDHE has followed up with it other than they've acknowledged CDC says that. Right. Can you remind me if there's any concession for someone that can prove that they've had a positive test and if so for how long? The question was if someone that has had a positive test in other words they developed the antigen and for how long so in other words what I would say is they go get the test the rapid with our district coordinator it would show the positive antigen correct? Yeah. And then they would as far as the positivity they haven't had it they have no symptoms they don't have anything would they then be able to continue and work since they already had the antigen since they have a positive already? I don't consider basically what KDHE says is they realize that you're going to test positive if you've already been confirmed to have COVID they consider you immune for 6 months from that you will test positive for up to 90 days we've had a couple that's tested positive longer than that just because you've gotten your 10 days in and you've been released if you was to follow up on that and you get tested you're probably going to test positive for at least 60 days So then are you quarantined or not? And when they would do that they wouldn't be quarantined, correct? Correct. Just not for 6 months unless they present the symptoms So then after the 6 months if you test positive because you still have the antigen then after 6 months and you've tested positive the same case you would be considered a reinfection and then you would be put back in isolation even if you're at all in symptoms even if you didn't have symptoms Well, if you didn't have symptoms that's a sticky portion right there I think we'd just have to go off case by case after that but 6 months is what they're saying is you should be clear and most young people will be because most and depending on their medical status but most young people are healthy enough that during the insistence clean down that pregnant virus is out of their system relatively quick Thank you, right? Yeah, KD&G would consider it a reinfection after 6 months Any other questions? Thank you for your time, right? You bet. Appreciate all your help You're not even alright at any time See you bet we will See ya. Alright, you guys take care Thank you Bye Now, we've already adopted what we were going to do back in May so unless you want to make a change just to brief the session The mass recommendation and requirement is issued by the CDC doesn't follow in My biggest concern is one student ends up on the respirator Yeah, I'm thankful for this plan Great job. Put a lot of thought into it Thank you Welcome It's comforting to me to know that I mean this plan came from KD&G the testing plan and so we're going to be following state guidance and then we're following county guidance with Ray who's recommending at this point I'm feeling confident that we're following state and local guidance I mean that's not a plan that if something were to change drastically and the recommendations of the health department the county health department and KD&G change, we would be flexible and can change with that. Is that correct? Unless it's a mandate Correct But this is a document that can change if they need to change the process That is correct Thank you Is there a more discussion on that? I appreciate your thoughts and definitely we're concerned about the safety and we're taking other precautions to ensure that safety The only thing we can control is the air right? I mean we can't control how kids wear masks we can't do any of that and the only way to control that is the safety of the county so we do have the air filters that we have in the rooms you as a board have adopted the fact that you're following a disinfected plan we've given people personal choice in regards to wearing a mask or not there's a lot of research showing the vaccinated people actually are spreaders that they're having a viral intake and providing that spread to others so I think that's our staff and that's the other part with the energy audit with the HVAC scrubbers that will take out 99.9% of any vaccine or excuse me any virus and so I appreciate your thoughts Jim I mean I do because the other thing is we don't want to put ourselves any assumption of risk or whatever but any time a kid steps out on the playground we've assumed risk so we need to do everything we can to ensure our kids are safe and our staff and so I appreciate the thoughts that's for me in my mind that was one of the biggest success stories I've seen of the real people coming together making the same mistakes based upon the health of the children our kids in school that was a huge success yeah can't disagree with you so the next discussion item is the launch the meetings so the last time we discussed we talked about having some community meetings some information gathering meetings and we were going to discuss when we were going into that Brad did you have anything? yeah just that I wanted to everybody should have gotten Jim called in just guys the phone survey information that you can look through some things with suggestions and one of the things that he did emphasize to me too is the importance of if the board or when the board goes to community meetings then there are questions that you want answered because if you don't go with questions answered then that can be all over the spring everywhere so if you have questions that you want answered like would you support one location or two or whatever that may be that we have that so that then people are able to answer and then okay do you support this how would you support it so following along that but as Jim had said the fact of the matter of this is this phone survey reflects our board and our community as far as a split and so what we need to do to ensure again what you all are doing as board members and as a district to make sure our district is sustainable what that means both financially and as a district and then to ensure that every kids has an educational opportunity and what that may look like best educational opportunity for the kids all those things together so and then the timelines I don't know I mean I think that's open for discussion I mean there was a previous motion about waiting until after the board elections I don't know if that's something to consider or not but the timelines and how that would work and getting people together and then again what questions are we asking the board so maybe a clarity in the direction to go Justin you brought up last time having some community meetings I can't remember did you say when you thought maybe or have a problem with whatever we decide I think for me question number 7 if I was like hey you got to have a question answered when you get there well I want to hear from the 34% that was undecided I mean that's a huge number the yeses and the noes were split right so I mean statistically they were split evenly so the huge piece is the undecided people why are you undecided on where you want your school to be located those people will convince me which way I would go if I was voting for a vote so that would be the question I would ask I had a couple I had a couple of phone calls this week that I found interesting based on this that sometimes in small tighter-knit communities it's hard for an opposing opinion to gain traction in a group setting yes we're also right with that they had asked are there options for instead of doing town halls maybe my town hall is my personal town hall is a town hall with a group of patrons that I represent my district yours is with your district and so on and so forth and I have the opportunity to sit in a room maybe I schedule a day maybe I schedule an 8 hour period you know all these people call me schedule an appointment come in and have a one on one conversation with me so how they feel about the bond how they feel about our district in general have a general discussion that's one on one then their spouse or cousins but not being a huge town hall meeting where group then takes over and and I believe that might not be a bad approach because I want to hear from the undecideds those undecideds if 34% of the undecideds say they actually do want all in Alma how can you argue with a 70% vote to a 30% vote likewise if they all go for two locations how can you go against a 70% vote to a 30% vote and so I think the last piece I'll leave you with is his last moments on this sheet we have learned a lot from our Buncie County experience how many times is a board have we hired professionals from the outside that have come in to give us information about our school district and we all tell them you're probably asking them their own questions you're probably going to ask them out appropriately and they're looking at the right areas and they're like we do this for a living we know what we're doing we've got this under control and they go out and they hit major resistance because we are a different district we are a unique district and we were elected by that district and we are the people those people want to talk to I've heard it I think some of the data we got out of there is not bad did we get our money's worth that's the debate and I not hear or announce already said and done but that's my point is I don't believe that anybody else can go talk to our patrons the way they want to be talked to the way they want to be communicated with better than we can and I don't believe that they will answer the questions and I believe truly and dearly need to be answered in a group setting to speak with smaller groups of people having those discussions I think doing it in a public setting bring more people potentially to block the streets of our towns I think about that I put up signs in public places and asked for people to contact me about it but that didn't exactly work I didn't have a couple of people who saw the signs being called but by and large growing up definitely got more contact and understanding of their respect I don't know how many people will show up in town halls but you probably have a greater likelihood of more than people showing up and providing their number and being able to access anything in contact with people but I feel like it's one group setting that's that I've been thinking about the questions and how they might get from the community and one thing that I was thinking about is I think it would be good to either have two opposing board members ask the same questions because people tend to ask questions and get the answers that they want I think it would be good to get honest feedback if you really have two opposing views questions answered at the same time so that you're not pointing towards the direction that you're pointed you know if someone's strongly in favor of all in Alma or strongly in favor of the two-town option not having just questions pointed towards one direction I think it would be come up with that list of questions ahead of time or have both board members sitting together maybe talking to one or two other people would be a good idea that way you get honest feedback and you're going to hear it the same way I think when you say it might be beneficial to try to be as informative as possible so discussing specifics in terms of when we say we are operating a budget group we talk to specifics about the fact that our HVARs are HVAC out of quarantine what's that cost? how much of that youth in school are out of quarantine and what are those costs involved so that the members can be more directly seen and maybe forward to themselves in their help of understanding what position we're in talking about our elementary schools and how the labor operating how much more costs are we bringing on having two elementary schools versus another two-week school in Kansas that has gone with the folks I believe beneficial from an understanding standpoint I think we said we're going to have some town halls I think obviously there's some different ideas on how those should look I I feel like having the details is a good idea I think if you're one on one that probably is a good opportunity it seemed like the last town halls we put out a lot of information and it kind of gets lost in translation a little bit when we're in big groups and people have things they want to say and I think the original idea was to have town halls to get information from the patrons so I like the idea of a smaller setting but you're right I mean if you go to the board member that you know favors what you favor then you're going to get the answers that you want to get so having opposing viewpoints is often a good idea too so I don't know what the best way to do that is do you guys have any thoughts on preferences on what you guys feel would be best the only time we ever broke into smaller groups we already had a plan that's the only time we've ever there was one meeting where we broke off into smaller groups we already had a plan and I think that's the model without a plan because each one of them rooms was different I mean no matter what the plan was each set of pictures in the room seemed to be just a little different we didn't ask questions either we already had what we were planning on doing so we didn't really have to ask but I think asking the questions after it's over I think it really important asking them what do you think about this what are the things we need to be considering so you're in favor of then a smaller breakout type of thing is that what I'm getting there was a lot of good discussion that happened in some of those rooms something along the lines right who knows who shows up I mean they all have an opportunity to show up at their doorstep right now I mean in that regard any mail and call they all have that opportunity to talk so and it's never going to be right for everybody the eight hours you'll never that'll be what you'll hear well that wasn't the day that worked for you but if we do schedule something like that and if we do it probably how to do it in all three communities we have facilities to do it in and we can break out whatever it takes for rooms well it would actually be three because a couple more members and three in the other one we want to look at setting dates now or do you want to wait for the next meeting I also think we have one to go from there that's actually yeah and then we can tweak it because if we just set solid dates for all three locations boom boom boom I mean we're going to learn as we go but in the hell let me see feel like it but we are and I mean I would like to note that I think that the committee did a really good job they dedicated a lot of time a lot of energy to that process and I don't think that this anyway discounts what they did obviously the results are split we are split and I still stand by the fact that I have a hard time putting forth a bond when there's such massive split between what everybody thinks is best but I do think we need to listen to those communities because two of them have brought forth that information so I think a town hall or more than one and learning as we go information seeking is a good way to get more feedback specifically from the patrons more patrons to compare with what the committee has given us and compare with what the research has given us and they compile that all together and that brings about a pretty comprehensive list of things to discuss and be able to put forth a bond because if we go and we you know we find that everybody is in favor of one or the other then at least you know I just want to say thank you to the committee because they did invest a lot of time and energy and I don't want them to feel like we are discounting it it's just being used at this point as part of the research that we've got now I believe it's a piece of the pie but I think it's a valuable piece a very valuable piece because we know how to to the committee to say that would there be any traction to having a school board meeting that is really like parent-teacher conferences we divide up into a room two hours 15-minute intervals and all seven of us are in our own room and they have people that come can bounce from room to room to room have their individual discussions with each individual I mean it's a board policy against that is that an open meeting issue I mean is there any support here at the board is that a dumb idea I mean other than the fact that people are staying home you'd have be clear of meeting and split off and do your much like we did for the other one so you're not taking any action when you're in your own room there's nothing I don't think over the meeting when you're still the meeting still open there's no action being taken like anybody I'm not saying it's a great idea I'm just throwing out and trying to figure out options but something that you always go for and I think we have everybody here knows when that board meeting is so that's already on your calendar too well it's going to be a board meeting anyway because no matter what no matter who breaks off it'll still have to because it'll start out as long as we unless we get a small one unless everybody doesn't show up if we don't have a plan I guess that's true one more time and it goes in line with the thought process of having one and having another schedule and I think when we are scheduling just trying to make sure that we're giving sufficient time so that as much as possible we can do the word out try to get as many people as possible to attend that was the issue I think that was the last one where we didn't agree it was a lot more I don't think time is our issue it's just personal we had a good attendance time and that was about a month out that was probably our best attended one that we had so do we want to schedule one now? do you want to again have a list of questions I mean we can schedule what's going to format what's questions what's going to be your responsibility yeah that's a good point right and I guess I haven't been able to read this yet so I would like time to read this so what if we took the information we have and all the information that we've been given take the time and then when we come back next time we can have questions that we want to ask and discuss that as a board and come to a consensus on the questions that we want to present because I think those should be standard the information that we provide probably should be standard right has there ever been a bond election put out where you have two choices the board can't decide which one they want put them out there and give them a choice the board doesn't decide what goes on they've had I've seen those or heard about those and I don't know exactly what to say I mean they've done them yes but then if you have two options I've heard negativity in regards to how it works that you never can get them that 50% already they're going to go for this and then 50% to this and then you aren't getting actually a true 50% or 51% to pass it because you only got a split from the beginning I don't know I don't know statistically how that plays out but that's some of the thought process as I understood yeah option A or option B he's got some traction there because right now we're 30-30 so you know what I feel I mean I think the board split between the two decisions we just got to figure out what these other sides are and Colin's going to point that it was on the ballot 30% are going to say yes and 30% are going to say no it's what the other 40% decides to do and we're here to provide the information to both options it would make more sense of having a group to have all meetings here's your two options that we can't decide between types and the board members will fit better because this is the one I think is best no this is the one yeah just takes 51% but if you can if you want it's a question it's a question of yes or no so if you're ready this or this you wouldn't be able to state it that way there would have to I mean you would have to have somebody write it wrong that would say option A or option B Brad Bray is a former superintendent at Mulvane and Holton, the worst energy solutions professionals now but he's had a lot of experience among and I see you perfect thank you my only question would be that you're not given the taxpayer's option you know there's going to be either a school here or a school here but I don't want to give that option I know that's just you don't have to be my only thought on that and a lot of them you'll see them have an option to school then athletic facilities or something like that that's usually what you see two options that's a good point I can see people just purposely not voting like we're just forcing them to correct there's the third one the third one would be whether you have no fifth option would be can we have what because we've got 20 something but all of them we have 20 to choose from right I feel like I'm hearing we're probably not ready to set a date to figure out what questions we figure out if we're going to ask questions we're just putting up four options all about it and I would like if Brad doesn't mind following up with that and seeing how many you're going to shoot her in the form other people that have done that got my theory out how bad did it get any other discussion on that so moving on to informational enrollment numbers it's changed since the last time and I don't know the exact numbers but on Friday when we put this out we had 309 out of 426 students that have been online enrolled so they've been being the secretaries and the governments have been contacting people that haven't enrolled FYI in September we'll have our budget hearing with also the revenue neutral hearing as well and just information wise it's always good to have for you all to be able to to put out there we're down 6.641 mils and the last two years which last year included our volunteer payment it's 385,055 $55 decrease in local taxes in the last two years part of it is due to the no bond payment this year but the other thing to remind employees is during the same period of time local taxes dropped significantly at the same time you still receive a 6% increase in salary in the last two years so I think that's something that speaks to having everybody working together and working through things but now the hard part as we discussed before once you drop those mills off you have to get them back on as far as that situation but that ship has sailed so we're on the upward number but it is a good thing to be able to report to your patrons and to those that ask that there is a huge decrease in your local taxes and one thing I forgot to mention I really want to thank Cheryl and Janice and now Michelle working in the District Office Center doing a great job to help us with our budget and so kudos to them that are in the trenches actually in the work done so a huge shout out to them so I failed to mention that and I needed you Energy Performance Contract Energy Performance Contract there's new information on your package there it's got the highlighting to talk about Brad Ray is here and Mike Mahoney with ESP that is the engineer responsible for it they did a lot of work and helped us and just FYI we started this process about three years ago to get to this point so we get a lot to do that and the situation either way with the bond as we've talked about before we have issues that we have to take care of how are we going to get taken care of we need to take care of maintenance issues that have big dollar amounts that we can't afford within our budget this allows that to happen the other thing that it allows to happen is for our communities to see that we are maintaining our buildings because that's something that you also hear with bond issues what you have what you have in those sense we will be moving if the board chooses to enter into this that we will then be maintaining and helping our buildings and solving a problem and the good thing about this is that it doesn't touch at this point any building that may be affected by the bond and the fact that it's a 10 year lease so we're not having a 25 year interest nor are we having to worry about with the quickness of it in other words why pay for lighting that pays for itself in four years and having on a 15 to 20 and then you're completely back in the cycle before the other ones they're worn out with your lease still going on and having two leases it is for 2.2% interest the ESR funds the small change in that that ESR fund amount is 184,000 I believe somewhere around there for the ESR piece that would be included in it and with that formula since this happened and the bond situation changed Brad and I met and discussed and with Mike's help too we got this up in because we didn't get this done within the bond can we add this in now and do more as long as we pay for itself so the exciting thing about it is with our savings it pays for itself so it's a 10 year lease purchase agreement that we would be looking to enter into and the first portion of that would ask in permission to approve the moving forward of the ESR piece and then phase not phase 2 but then releasing the ESR RFPs for the HVAP work that HVAP work includes ionization of plasma spring units for air quality and so that sets the stage a little bit and they're here to provide insight to help in any way so I'd like to forward to you all one of the things I'd like to also bring in Howard share you're talking about the bond issue and that was one of the things in our discussion was what can we do from cost savings plus ESR so that you get things done with what they're going to do you're basically putting a 9.2 mil project out at no tax rates now to me that's important and what I want to do and what I want my constituents to know for the 4 or I think 4.50 4.55, yeah you're assessed valuation 49,185 dollars if your district's growing you're assessed valuation growing this project that we presented to you is going to be paid for safe you got your ESR funding put into it then the paid for savings is going to be paid for it you're not having to put anything else into it you're not having to ask for more mills you're not having to go to your budget and try to find money it's 9.2 mils of ego so that to me as a former superintendent mills are important and that's one of the things that we like and the reason we didn't use all your ESR money the reason that we want to do it out of the pay for saving this phase one is the fact that you don't know what you're going to do what you're going to do but you still got needs to be addressed you've got roofs you've got the stone building you've got some other things that are going to have to be addressed no matter what eventually so that's why we didn't just say let's just pay for it all hopefully something happens we're looking farther on down the roads than what we need to do so that was the project and how we came about the scale because I know the answer to the question so I'll ask it we can add in more things as we go correct yes that's what we call the phase one so if we come back in December you know we've got to do something if you put everything inside of the body if something doesn't work out you've got to do something that's what we agreed and we and one thing too that is important and the fact is that the FCIP program Kansas State they will be overseen to ensure that the savings that they guarantee us is our savings so if it's not then they have to be responsible to make up the difference so that's a great thing to have in your pocket because people go well yeah they say that but are they really going to get that much savings well we know we're going to guarantee it and what's good about the life let's say you do the life you start with that savings then it's not yet the way to the next year as soon as you change life we'll change the picture putting your life you're getting the savings and with that said too Brad because I heard you say starting next month so the question how can that happen when we're in school that you guys have the opportunity what we do is we're doing a life we work at night the kids aren't there we're going to do this floor tonight it's done at night it's cleaned up it's ready for class the next day so we just we get it done it's safe for the kids there how is the tracking done on the savings piece is that something that we would have to track our costs 10 years and then compare that year over year what's being saved yeah great question actually that's going to be the end of mine we're going to get the savings who's going to prove it what's that I said later in May that's what we teach in our district start the end of mine so perfect so we have as part of the contract is what's called measurement verification so you measure and get data and then you verify it based on formulas or calculations that you actually got the savings and so that program or that plan of measurement verification is all part of the contract so it's both parties are saying this is what we're going to measure to make sure that we get the savings that we said great question I don't know if that answers you it's an ongoing measurement process and it can go for as long as you want but it's also what usually happens is after the first year things don't change so usually if you make your savings the first year no sense of pain to have somebody tell you again next year oh by the way you made it again the second or third year maybe you might do it one, two maybe think about the third year and so I can talk about the individual project there's quite a bit on the I think I'm looking at the same sheet you are and if you look over on the left hand column I just want to point out that there's a lot of things that we could do right that we found but the X's so we said okay well you know the bottom what will we done through it's in question so let's kind of back off of those that would be impacted by that and let's look at the places that are just going to continue to be there and need to be done so you know kind of focused on elementary the commons I called the commons I called the Annex also next to the elementary school the junior high and then the high school and then we kind of moved away from I call this the stone building it probably has a real name but it's a beautiful stone building I call it the stone building so we kind of back off of it a little bit because depending on what's decided you may decide to do this you may decide to do something else in that building so we said okay well let's take the X off of that one so I just want to make sure that we're all reading this the same and that is if there's an X in that far left column then we're planning on doing that at least as part of this first phase and then you can see some of the other things I know the roofing is something that's important to you we're not because there's some question about what schools here and there so anyway that's how the sheet works so you have the middle school one there what is that that well it uses the term retro commissioning but it's actually decommissioning it's actually putting it in a I'll use the term ball form which means it's still building and it's still going to be an active facility so you can't just turn it off and walk away because then you have to make sure that the things in the building are maintained not to the level where they have occupants but you just kind of watch the humidity and things like that I don't know what the long term solution is for that building but you'll want the building to remain a pretty good shape if for instance you give to the city or whatever you decide to do with it so this we haven't taken all of the utility cities because you'll still have some very small utility bills there but it will be just to maintain the building at kind of a lawful stage that answers your question okay if we sold it it would save us that much money if we would have to do that well yeah yeah absolutely one of the things with the just like the high school the old limestone building the difference is if we do the say VRF system we're going to have to do some stuff with the lights why aren't we doing the lights well because if we happen to go to the bond with the VRF system we're going to be dropping that ceiling and not to get into business because you wait more than a minute drop that ceiling to run the duct work and then we would replicate the lights those panels and so that type of thing so that's why that's quite not included in some of this because we don't know right now I feel like there's a lot of flux going forward with any enhancements I think a lot is going to come from our they provide us some feedback enhancements in some facilities versus not others and then they just certainly appreciate what the work did I mean you guys obviously have done a lot of analysis taking a lot of time to assess these I think that some people can present for our communities as well nothing here that you put on here that would enhance our bond anyways right and there's nothing to any of the facilities that would not meet our bond criteria correct I mean is there things you're improving on here that we would improve through a bond you could that's our question film that you rather do in 10 years or 25 years how important is that that's the benefit of 10 years with them is there a way since you're doing a phase option is there a way to do a phase 1 be a 5-year and phase 2 be a 10-year and phase 3 whatever that may be be a 15-year so I'm not paying for my lights over 10 years but my age back I am paying over 10 years to get my lights done in 5 maybe save us a little money is there any options like that yes but then what happens is now the HVAC has pushed out even further than 10 years because it's the idea of cooperation between the different types of projects or any project based on let's say less than 5 years right and you combine that with HVAC and then together they're both less than 10 if you say the HVAC might take 15 years for itself and I'm using the average from the lights in order to bring that all together so it's sort of writing on the code yeah a little bit of the lighting if you think about it that way I call it leveling you're going to level this because some things just aren't inherent they do have savings they're incremental savings like a rooftop unit just wears out it just you could continue to work on it there's a cool good money after that I'm not sure but anyway eventually it's just bad and the ones that we have on the list are the ones that need to be replaced so you're sort of at that place the other thing I think it can help you with is showing good stewardship to the patrons also meaning that bonds sometimes get in their heads like bricks and mortars like spaces and classrooms where the kids are actually taught and sometimes kind of behind the scenes they sort of just expect the district to take care of well this is sort of a way to take care of things sort of behind the scenes maybe some patrons wouldn't even know what some of these things are so they just expect that the district takes care of it so this would be a way to be kind of with the steward and get those things taken care of to be able to say that and then maybe ask your patrons can we get a bond just an idea very much so because it will help our budget and then the thing to help our budget and that's one of our goals of why we entered in to initially even talk about it so the operating expense one the efficiency and two hopefully well not hopefully we will have near as many breakdowns and things of the equipment in your place now well and you're proving the learning environment for your kids regardless of the bond we still have the needs now for the HVACs that's not wrong so this is an action item that I've created and Brad you've supported I did you what get that film that the $50,000 that's what the cost is correct or what is the actual cost a year because that says what the statement is the energy savings of $50,000 $554,000 and they will pay for the program so is that paying for the program, is that breaking even is that you guys want to just go through the you want to go through the line that's just a simple question I know it's not probably simple but it says right here I'm a simple man I have this part of the sheet the sheet to look like okay I'm on the backside so this is got me in school too and what it tries to do is here you can see all the years and this is how the money lays out and so if you look over in the far column is the savings as it gets larger and larger so basically each year then after it gets paid off then you're in then you're positive with all the savings that generated the payback of the project I may not have answered your question what's that can you be a small fan do I know is this in the district why is this is that all the changes are going on yeah that's it new and serious any that we're not replacing that's fairly newer will be adding it to that so all the HVC will be getting it so the ionization is a means code is on everybody's mind so it does do that it also does flu even after we eat this code there will be other ones and it will fix those too Mike those are roughly like 4 or 4 years right? yeah it depends on the size of the unit and what size the ionization device needs to be and that's what we put into for some of our grant stuff they'll pay for that so there's a combination with grant with this just like you said Jim to make sure every classroom is taken care of I'm cold-headed Eric I sure put them here I was thinking I would take a cool box tonight this is a good horses I got a question for Keith I'm not a president I so move that accept the bid that's provided is there any discussion? maybe just a couple of starting points so at the end of the day we're talking about our items that are check mark boxes yes so we will be retrofitting lining for I guess my concern would be we're doing retrofits on the potential building set so take this approach it's a five year payout on the lights and it's going to take you five years to get a new one built even if you pass them on once you're not going to so if you go to next November you're already a year into that but it takes you two or three years it's already paid for itself to retrofit the lengths already so you may as well move this one out any discussion? moved and seconded all of those opposed say aye okay alright you're kind of sneaky thanks a lot of you can we start with a fan right there? get a thumbprint get a thumbprint thank you thank you thank you guys thanks Mike let's get the electricity retrofitting retrofitting okay yeah exactly okay okay so then maybe if I get this wrong so we're moving into an executive section oh sorry you're up okay so next one number six adopt B.O.E. policy I.N.G.D. animals and plants in school right it's a cancer association of school loads policy that should be passing and it deals with two the animals in the classroom for service animals we had a request to possibly bring a service dog to school we don't have a policy we need to have one in the procedure in place it's for everyone's safety both for the students that may request it and also for the students that are in the classroom and staff so just going through that it's included and working through this for cancer association school works for legalities so I would recommend we move forward now move it up policy I.N.G. animals and plants in school second second in any discussion those are closed say aye thank you so moving down to personnel right so we will be going to executive session and place performance pursuant to non-elected personnel exception under coma and the meeting will resume at the board room well first the negotiations it's on your you did non-elected personnel but we have to do that next so the negotiations want to read that that's okay that's for persons just read this I'm sorry so executive section I don't like the percentages just go negotiations and then come over here okay so moving on to executive session to discuss the latest personnel proposals for increasing the base pay rate pursuant to the exception for employer employee associations under coma and the open meeting will resume at the board room at 20 seven minutes so 25 after okay that's fine thank you I mean we're happy to go can we go second all of those say aye thank you alright we're back in open session so I move to accept personnel as listed I second you have a second, is there any discussion one of you needs to read it out and the meeting starts at 17 you want me to read it out so as listed would be meeting substitute teachers Peggy Adams Brian Boucher Laura Annan Tony Shaw Stanley David Markley Susan Harris and Matt also emergency subs of Jennifer Anderson Braden Sundberg and Sue Yoko as well as substitute classified staff of course and exact we're not we're supposed to go through employment okay of appointment of supplemental contract list as provided including assistant coaches and club sponsors by our administration Tyler Douglas assistant 7 through 12 Randy Stanley AES secretary Sharman Miller COVID coordinator for the district office administrative assistant okay so COVID coordinator slash district office slash administrative assistant Jennifer Eastman as junior high secretary and then resignations slash retirement of Samantha Walsh as the AES secretary and Freddie Jelson as transportation slash maintenance director unless there's something out of the four I have is there any additions to this? second all opposed say aye I don't have anything else to say I guess we're not being here but sometimes it's just hard to get here I thought I was going to be early and I could be here before everybody else I'm just going so the job well done because the modular is gone the modular is gone job well done now and I know Donnie helped with that because I've seen him over there and he's probably mad at me because I didn't know I was getting help but you didn't come up with this part of that I thought I'd see you one day over there doing something with you didn't have to do it but I noticed they had to do a little bit extra to get the fits out but you did were you over there? no I just pulled them out it's all I got maybe to say that they have a true experience here I noticed a trace I did work I'm sorry it was just good luck at the start of the school year I'm sure it's a lot of work a lot of change happening so thank you for that and good luck to you guys we moved and seconded all those in favor say aye aye thank you all we're out of time