 You came up in the league with Rick Brunson. Any young Jalen Brunson stories? I mean Jalen was really young. When I played with Rick, my last year with the Clippers, Jalen was 9 or 10 years old and just really getting in the basketball and playing on his little, on his little local teams. And I mean, wow, I remember Rick having him in the gym, putting him through drills. He's like, no, he's doing these drills until he makes all these baskets. And so he was really tough on him as a kid. And that's why you see a really competitive, feisty, feisty player there in the NBA.