 I'm here with trainer Grant Setnicka who just won Horse of the Year at last night's 2016 world finals. Just by one point too, congratulations to you, Grant. Thank you very much. Yeah, it was, it couldn't have come down more to the wire, that's for sure. Yeah, you would have had a lot of people, you know, sitting there, biting their nails wondering what was going on and on top of that you had to wait 50 minutes to see what was happening. There was a review. How are you feeling at that point? Well, yeah, there was a review on my run and usually they take, you know, 10, 15 minutes. This one took 50 minutes, which is great because I just looked at it as they just really wanted to make sure, you know, because it was a pretty important review. It was on my first cow, my first quit. Cow turned away and then kind of turned right back into me, so they just wanted to make sure I didn't, didn't hot quit and fortunately we, we ended up getting some points back and those points gave me enough placings to be Horse of the Year by one point. So it was, it was unbelievable. It's probably the closest race ever. It has to be. It can't get any closer. The only way it could have gotten closer is if we tied, you know, and then I guess the rule is after that it goes off money one, whatever horse won the most money that year, but hats off to Matt Miller and Amanda C.D., awesome horse. Chris Brenngarde owns the horse. They just, it's been, it's been a lot of fun this year going back and forth and I consider Matt a great friend and unbelievable competitor and it was, it was a long year, but it was, it was a lot of fun. Well, he had a different strategy to you because he really did really well at the big aged events. You did more of the hauling, paid out of your favor in the end, but what made you decide to go and haul this year? What made us, where we ended up at this point was because of points. The Mercurias give away points that go towards horse of the year. So if I'm going to go for horse of the year, I'm going to try to enter in everything possible and luckily we did well at a few Mercurias. I think we made three Mercuria finals, one of them, second at one and then placed in the other one and that put me up high enough in the world standings to make the world finals and then coming into it I had, it was, it was pretty, it was, it was a tough chore. I had, I want to say 64 points to get and that's, that's how far ahead of me he was and each go around gives away 20 points and then the average gives away 20 points and so I ended up winning second in the average and won two of the four go-arounds and so that gave me enough points to, to advance and those, those group of horses, I mean if you look down through them they're just unbelievable and I couldn't be more proud of my horse being as young as she is, kind of hanging with the big dogs so to speak. So tell us about issues of my choice, owned by J5. As you say, a four-year-old, more unusual for a horse of that age to win horse of the year? Yeah, absolutely. She's, she's four years old but she's, I always tell people I want to ride a horse way smarter than me and I think she is, she's, she's, she listens to me all the way up into the point where I'm wrong and that's, that's what I will look for in a horse and she's, she's gritty, she's strong, she's extremely cow smart and throughout the year just to, to make the world finals she had to, you know, it's, it's kind of like what I described to people that do aged events, it's like when you make the finals and you try to win a cutting, it's like that every time you show in the, in the weekend stuff and so not only physical strength but the mental pressure, you know, she, and she handled everything well and I just, the Yeagies didn't, Yeagie family, Chubby Turner, they gave me everything I needed to, to make all this possible and they're just unbelievable clients and friends and I'm just ecstatic for everybody. So is it more unusual to go hauling for that title with a four-year-old because you really want to dedicate them to the aged events? What is the, what is the trick or the balance I guess to having them not go lame or, you know, handle the stress of all that showing? Yeah, I think it's, I think it, I think it boils down to, to their brain as far as if they're mentally tough and can, and can do it then, you know, I look at all those older weekend type horses and I, I just can't believe how incredibly strong and pure and, and, and to, to go that hard, that long was, it's tough on a horse and I think, you know, the reason, I mean, the whole base model is you do aged events until the horses the end of their six-year-old year and then if you want to keep going you can do some mercury stuff and, and some weekend stuff but I'll tell you what, it was, it was a speed that I, that I had to learn to get comfortable with and it was just an unbelievable learning experience for both of us and I think the reason people don't do more of it on their younger horses is because they're trying to kind of save them, you know, for, for the next three or four years of their age event career. Now that you've proven that you can do it, do you think you might see some more younger horses go for this title? I do, I do, I, I think that, you know, the, she, I think she's the only four-year-old that's ever made the top 15 and it, I don't know, it's just, if it wasn't for the weekend stuff, I wouldn't have gotten this title so, yeah, I think, I think you might see more of it. How about you? You going to do some more hauling or are you going to go back exclusively to the aged events? I don't want to go anywhere after this year. I feel like, like, I feel like I've been working for a carnival or something. I've just haven't been home a whole lot and, but it's been, it's been, it's been so worth it now, you know, and it, a lot of, you know, 10 o'clock at night watching cows, you know, at these weekend shows and, and I'm just, I'm just glad all that and for the horse, I'm glad all her hard work, you know, kind of paid off. So what does this do for the horse now, the horse itself in terms of value, plans to breed, that kind of thing? Yeah, I think it does nothing but increase her value. You know, like, when lose or draw, my, my mentality was people know she's a nice horse and, you know, it, but having that title doesn't hurt anything, in my opinion. And she's won, she had won, what, 280,000 before winning the title? Yeah, I think, I think she's over 300, I know she's over 300,000 now for sure after the World Finals and stuff. So that was, that was kind of neat. And, you know, she's healthy, she, she feels good. And I'm sure she's looking forward to a little break and then we'll do the, do the age event stuff next year and, and keep, keep going. So with you hitting the road a little bit more than you do normally, did you learn something more about yourself or showing or how, how was it, you know, changed or affected you? What I, what I learned hauling, so to speak, which by the way, I did, those hats off to, you know, some of those guys went to 70, 80 shows this year, like, I didn't go that hard at all. But I learned even more, like, I feel like my program's pretty simple, but what I learned is all, even more, all the little stuff that you feel that we get picky about, just don't even worry about it, you know, because when you're going that fast all the time, you're going to have some little imperfections, but you're just presenting the best run you can out of, you know, 10, 15 phenomenal horses. So it just, for me, it was, you know, I had to learn more speed and more working time is basically what I got out of it. And if you had a little miss or anything like that, it's not a big deal, just keep going. And that's, that's kind of what I got out of it. And how about dealing with pressure was coming into the event last night? I was, it wasn't just last night. It's been kind of all year, because those points are so valuable. And so I felt like once Matt and I were kind of neck and neck, I mean, he is freaking not going to make a mistake. And so he always, like you can never, you can never count him out. And so I would always have to try to be perfect as well. And it was last night, I was, I was really, really nervous. I mean, I get nervous every time I show that horse. I think you get nervous when you realize the only variable that can mess things up is you. And, but that's the kind of horse I want to show as well. So it was, it was nerve wracking. And then, you know, I was, it was really hard to figure out the points and all that because you couldn't figure out the average until the show was over. And it was just kind of a, but I just, you know, my theory was, it'll be, it'll be, I did all I could do. I mean, I cut the best cows I thought were in there. And he was kind of out of my hands at that point. And that's kind of the way I try to use all those nerves and all that to focus versus letting them distract me. Now, Matt wasn't in the final last night, but was he watching? I don't, I don't think Matt was there. I know, excuse me, I know Chris, his owner was there. And we're all kind of waiting around for the review and stuff. But I don't think Matt was there, but I'm sure he was watching it or he knows, he's, he knows everything down to the, down to the point and stuff. And so I'm sure he was watching. Well, it certainly makes cutting exciting. Congratulations to you, Grant. Thank you very much.