 Welcome back. Karebo to Y254 TV. In case you just get to join us, this is why in the morning, hashtag Thirsty Vibes, where we get to give you good music, great conversation and we get to give you the juice and talking about, I told you I had a good one. I don't lie. So the good one has come. I'm super excited. You can read from my facial expression. I am blessed this morning to have Hillary the worshipper to make her morning this morning, to bless Pia, you know, what we're going to do in September is we're going to ask the man of God to bless her. Thank you. Thank you. Good to see you. Thank you. Karebo to Y254. Thank you. So I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, I'm going to say, Paster, my name is Hillary the worshipper. I'm a worship minister. Yeah. And a recording artist also. What's the difference between worshipping and... Recording artists. Yeah. Artists. You're good in writing, but minister, you're both good in writing and in dispensing the life of God to people. So, do you prefer to be called a worshipper or an artist? A worshipper, it's okay. That's why I'm a Hilary the worshipper. But you don't have to worry about it. You don't have to worry about it. In a biddy, at once. Personally, I appreciate knowing Kulewatua Metoka because it's an opportunity to identify someone. So if you don't mind, you can tell us how the journey has been to becoming a worshipper. Of course, you don't have to worry about being a Hilary the worshipper. Sure, sure. Okay. First of all, I'm born from a family where everybody is born again. Actually, my dad is a bishop. A fastest kid. Fastest kid, anyway. But the grace of God. That's where I started singing. My singing wasn't that right now. I was just singing those Sunday school songs. I used to sing traditional songs again. Yes, and you know, the way Luya's are so much deep into the air. I used to sing them. In fact, in Afikanga, I'm singing them. No, no, no, no. That's my direction. So yeah, I did some secular pressure in high school. But we thank God. So I think... You didn't enter? No, no. She didn't even ask me. The way you were so loud in high school. Yeah, yeah, yeah. She didn't even ask me. But I thank God, the influence you take away from God. But I started singing when I was young. In fact, my mom was a musician. My mom was a musician. I think she taught me. She taught me. Yes. So I sang. Actually, I knew I'll be a minister because of very many opportunities that are coming my way. And most of them, I was ministering, even singing simple songs. And very many people are like, you're singing so well. So I knew there is something about my life that I need to dig. So I decided to go to high school. High school conferences. There are two... I don't know if it's a yes, but once it's a no, it's a no. There is a shift. So I decided to go to Pride. I thank God for the book. It's yours. It's not where you need to focus. I remember those days. I went to high school. I went to high school. We can challenge. But once I found a presentation, I sat down and listened to the talk. I didn't know. So I used to find my own ministering with the men of God in deliverance. They were doing their deliverance. And the way I'm singing, God and I moved, so I was like, no, no, no, this is a different thing that God has placed in my life. So once... Now, when I'm from one, I don't know if it's a serious story or if it's born again because I remember the moment I gave my life to Christ. This is unique, by the way. I don't know if it's because I'm preaching. I don't know if it's because I'm praying. No, no, no. Actually, this lady was worshipping. Back then, she went to church. So she was worshipping this song. I don't know if it's because I'm praying. Just like, okay. And God... You don't know if it's because you're praying. No, that's rema. I receive. So you are cutting the Holy Spirit and you're quickening. Now you need to give your life to Christ. You've been born in a family that is born again, doesn't mean you're born again. Now this time. So from that time, I went to the altar. I prayed and I told God, now this is it. And I also worshiped the ministry in combat in my spirit. Yes. Wow. So from that time, I went to high school. When I went to high school, I saw the story. I said, there's no pressure. There's no doubt. There's no result. But God sent a man of God. Actually, he was a student. And he asked me, you. I was alive. But God sent me to the altar. He said, I'm shafife in the morning. And I said, God has sent me to you. That you're a worshipper. And you need to start doing what God has called you to do. Ha! So I said, God sent me to the altar. God sent me to the altar. God sent me to the altar. God sent me to the altar. God sent me to the altar. God sent me to the altar. Thank you. Yes. So even then, the answer. And I started. I was singing. And very many people were being blessed. See, they took blessing from God. And it was from one. But God didn't want to confuse. And it was from four. Yeah. It was so much. I still remember. God was giving me visions of how people, of how services it was before to enter the service. How God would be moving. And I was like, God, what's this? So I kept on building and building and building. And it was great. I remember. Ha! My mom didn't know I was singing by the way. What even my dad. All of them were scared too. So I went to school. There was an AGM. There was an AGM. It was a high school. So. So I went to school. I went to school. And I said, I want to see you. I went to school. I said, I want to see you. I said, I want to see you. And I said, I want to see you. And you know choir music festival those days. So I went to see you. So I went to see you. I went to see you. And I said, I want to see you. And we're serving God with no fear for competition. Let's just before, whaaa! So, I sang. Moja. I sang by guitar, and some of them came up and came to me with money. So I have money. I'll be distracted and have money to pay. So I thought I'd have to pay and I'll be a principal. I was a high school principal. My mother. And the other two kids on board at the same time. They come to me. Yeah, so it was and I realized that people are bringing money to me and they are saying you have God will take you far is all my prophecies, so I realized there is something different about me But I'm a man with a gun and I'm like So I came back and I'm sorry I'm sorry I had a job. I don't know. So the first time I think It was just it is an amazing journey But but God am inside. Yes, and my first song I wrote in high school And it got to me what it got to me. Oh, we can challenge To me what you can challenge and people are responding. I was like, okay, so this thing is working So that's how my journey has been and after I met oka uko That I met a secret not speaking thanks in QI school, but it is because enough and so there's a weekend challenge We went before he left school and this man of God was saying How many people here speaking thanks Over 600 people So started reading materials about speaking in tongues watching men of God was speaking about your topic and When I joined the campus God filled me the Holy Spirit the first night the first worship experience night Actually, we can go live if it was a mingis in a shift your core ship worships worships So that's the time the Holy Spirit filled me and I started speaking in tongues now from there Yes No, no, no, no, I'm a manager by profession What did you study human source management why Why not do music? What did you not do music? No, in fact, in fact, I was to be general general is him or Being a doctor So I had those two options but according to Max Zangbun and any navities in the corner paper up on the corner human source management Because you can open a coffee CP. Yeah, sometimes He wants us management other sizing don't know do it was it was a it was a divine It was a divine connection to my destiny because you see even in ministry. You're managing people My pages YouTube channel and everything they comments everything how to deal with people. It's management also Yeah, but I didn't do music and I can't do music You don't have money channel that you've mentioned that human resource money. Yes Might that be the reason why you don't have a manager? Yeah, I'm a manager my profession Will do open to having a manager Maybe maybe maybe my cousin I'll train my cousin to do that for me Why not pick someone else? No, why they will hack my accounts and go away Do you have insecurity issues? When you move if you're too lucky from nowhere, you don't know Oh, do you Would you could put it that would you could put it that would you one of zero six seven see but uh, but no I'm training my cousin to do that Because in attack up here. I'm creating an opportunity a job opportunity maybe Yeah, as code leaves me, but you are very many things with the flow But it was specific if a man of God calls an apostle or a bishop. I'm talking with them But if you have a Others talk to them, please But uh, but uh, yeah, it's important because yes, how can pay on a bishop? There are cases whereby very many musicians especially in Kenya They've they've lost they've lost opportunities because of that. Yeah, I love you. Now. I take a call now You see me a manager by profession. I know to talk to people Even if it's professionally even spiritually not talk to people. Yeah, how do you how do you think? Music no, I don't know if I really like calling it music industry, especially when we're talking about gospel. How do you think? Where we are at right now and where we where other countries are What's the projection like? Okay, in fact industry Yeah, but me one thing I know with the sight of prophecy what God is about to do in Kenya especially to worshipers You wait and see you tell me about it. Yeah, there's a wind that is coming That eater eater eater raise what to what to when they're doing it for God and You see how it's happening in Nigeria That weed is coming also to Kenya Yes, because you see hey those guys they are positioned God and they kill him come out They blow up That's what God is going to do in Kenya Especially for those especially for the young people not this one. So you know me co-established the young people of course like me I'm part of that I know I'm not about it. So Good days they're coming up on Bella and people will appreciate The gospel I'm telling the truth people will appreciate the gospel because it won't be just singing people will be watching Videos to normally work at TV and they're filled with the Holy Ghosts. Me. I'm waiting for those days Waiting for those days to go to Nafana show Nakilam to Anna Pepetron our Holy Ghost Those are the days we are we are we are coming into but what I'll say is The music is coming and especially spirit food music And people will appreciate the gospel but right now people just need to build position yourself Everywhere and tick tock Facebook. Would you want to go to that to me? I work for you Do you think? Gospel musicians are putting efforts In terms of their production as Compared to secular because to know Nanga gospel for lack of better for lack of better explanation You'll find gospel musicians into to a mecha and record to Kiwimbo and then who won't be like place and I should take a rainbow And it's what about to my name if I'm going to call it a little for me to come back a lot I'll find a funny to something like, you know, I could TV a lot of money about language like the other day We were listening to song and they only repeated one line the entire song The whole song But they repeated one line throughout the song so is it from a point of laziness that we are lazy as Gospel musicians are lazy or is it from a point of remer or is it that beer? One I say my two new do what what message you know, I'm not so manga Who says he's a salty skin a message. Yeah He's not ready for breakness Actually, you need competence. You need competence a lot. You see these people. They think not your YouTube. Nemoja I couldn't do it because I was a gospel Nemoja and what you need to do, okay, what I'll say Challenges appear That's why me me my songs. I have taken time to produce to give To do video on them these songs my songs I record three years ago four years ago But one thing God told me is that your music is you have quality music don't don't Need to a J E word don't compromise on a on a low quality video. Just wait So one of the things what we're gonna rock especially the young people they want What are you doing? Explosion, we don't want the process. You see now keep in here challenging a corner. It's about money It's a lot what we need. I couldn't do it. I can't be at a company. I can't be a share at a company Pesa Well, I don't find a video quality for something almost to 14,000 quendall air And you know the pattern to make room here come is a little 15 now you're 15 off any indoors Yes, no, no, I can't be in the upper Yeah, maybe I'll find a nice email but Yeah, I'll go to see my little nice email. I can't talk to a clear customer. I see no, but anyway Another thing is about I've said challenge is a corner person. I must support you see most of the musicians Especially in church They're not supported. Yeah, we tell you the truth. They are not supported Like you don't know what we're doing after that because me me personally I'm a person It was a meeting in the kitchen. Yeah, but where we actually we just need go to speak to some people so that yeah, like And on a nice song and a dough a funny me and a funny too We never know maybe But We need to tell them the truth go for quality things Spend time at a father you take one year Audio Give our whites You just need to work Yes Work on it. I love who most of them they've compromised. There's something one of my friends shared On our status like I say my water knock for your audience when I learn a producer. He's a bit of it. I end up I'm telling you the truth as it I end up getting deep as it I end up But we need to tell them the truth because because they need to know yes as it ended up early Foundation I can you wrong? Can't hear people in the studio It's not Yeah They need to know the truth. Yeah, sure You ask me I'll tell you I was offered 100,000 plus a good house and Ender in the car so that I just go to a certain church just to be there just be part of them Ah mean no Actually, it's a good offer very good offer, but with my destiny. That's a compromise That's a compromise me Because right now I'm not entitled to receive any money for my gifting I certainly pity she done sir, but the sacrifice that I'm doing it's for my destiny People people don't understand destiny. That's why they will do anything They will go and do video to you Thank you for bringing that story up So you people me me I can tell you the truth me me Come and compromise on your own compromise Thank you for bringing it up now that brings me to a question. I wanted to ask you The aspect of being paid and being appreciated in terms of gospel Musicians, what do you think about it? Okay, that that one is personal. In fact, you see the way station Yeah, okay to some it's okay, but to me it's not Okay, especially to my church my home church So a hundred of them That's 200 that's a curse you're receiving a curse So musicians should not receive Money from their churches, okay, what are you trying to say musician should but worshipers like me, please don't why Because there's something called sacrifice and something called destiny and once you understand this thing even about sowing seeds And then you will know actually it's knowledge what on a knowledge, but who people who came up early in our appreciation It's a but I don't keep imagine appreciation on a journey to live what you absorb and 2000 One two thousand So actually it's about knowledge anyway, I'm not Singly what we are nearly one is how come a God I'm a conveyor see how to come in on a lepichanga queen here worship experiences But when you come in see easy lepisha We do at covenant. I'm a God my destiny and God so these things it's a matter of how has God called you into this Can I make what I do? I can see so many to meet with your souls So okay, let me tell you the truth even if you invite me to your church Then you pay me one million and I don't deliver. I won't take that money I won't take because my joy is to deliver what I have to a generation. You see yes Yes, nice The aspect of fatherhood In terms of musicians we see a lot of a lot of worshipers when you ask them Where they begin at they began very well. They had a father. They had a covering They no longer want to go to that Ghetto, you know, they they now identify with the big pastors. They who is who what you take about what? But one thing I'll say actually it's knowledge Maybe So many they're my friends. They always say that Fatherhood and son it's it's important Covering is very very important Especially if you're a man of destiny and a man of generations me, I'll tell you the truth and Now fatherhood and sonship is a matter of heart to heart heart to heart whereby Me me who is in the core. Okay, very many people come and ask me How did you find yourself to these churches spiritual father? Yes, I tell them listen from God You see I'm education as a man under your church and I'll submit up. Oh Stay with God in fact Time God I wanna shift and unshift life young woman ministry This one time I said one year without going to church. So it's just staying and praying to God God direct me direct me well go For my next season that beneficial to my destiny, please So I stayed in a head two options in my mind Kunal church in Eniko size is over ship sent again. Oh, no, you know, you didn't get it. Yes, sir. Emma. He didn't want to kill you He said no, go man. You know, but I don't want to be fought a son Yes, Emma partner, so they can be a god you just give me so I went to that church the first day No, one Sunday went there Ganga left you the one a fan and the whole service Aha next and then you can look again Now come down to come back. I Found my spirit just prayer So these things unless God confirm me. Don't be na hurry. Don't be na hurry Don't be na hurry, especially young people because your father determines a lot the same way Jack up and get and get tell about their children. This one will go for this one He's on these on I give you the fatherly blessing even the spiritual father's walk among Suns work out and a joonga nine a meteor this Generations and I'm at a bucket to upper church and I'm serious. Yes, they know so have a person When you need father at a come out who leapy couple Get covering. Yes. Stay there. You see These people don't understand the covering. Do you know what's covering? Tell us covering at a shoe. They will cook a cover kitabuna pig. What are you peckin? I don't know how important cover you see their places. We were invited And maybe our stretch in the spirit cannot fight whatever is being imposed to us in those environment But because we have a covering All I enjoy it on other than any way God and I say be a come back on a Like you know, one of them won't work. Yeah, one of them won't work. You see in this world of of Very many people see us go to kiss who go where go where go where we're here very soon We'll be going outside the country. So they think it's just going. No, we are fighting spirits Okay, the spirits can as I put it to key ulcer I make to pay to cancer to We are the kuzaku sumbo territory to work. I'm on a to people on our key one thirty two Even in the example I refuse so Okay, to come up to guys Stitch I a cup. Maybe your prayers and every everything I just went a good position too to me to To do away with them, but because you have a covering Pair it a feature nakedness yako covering No jingo no corner now in the bad or you're going lightened Personally there's some things Mimi and I see me at a song They're going to make a error Me look at I can't find a meeting's county after county Yeah So we are taking Kenya for Jesus Cool cool cool cool. Nah! Yeah. You get it. F never have followers in one hundred and thirty two on Facebook yeah you you say YouTube you mean to think, my friend You are fatherhood. Actually, I don't have a good account for her. But because of fatherhood, during her prayer meeting, Hillary pray for your YouTube channel. It's going to be hacked. Pray about it. And she said, What? But she survived. Just because of fatherhood. Yes. So she said, I'm the son. See fatherhood doesn't have a rent. See fatherhood doesn't have a rent. You are to deal with your spirituality. You know what I'm saying? Your spiritual father is responsible for your spirituality. Not your needs. If you have your needs, then you have to do it. But they are boundary. You have to grow spiritually. To escape your point, boundary, you are growing spiritually. So are there projects you are working on right now? Yeah, yeah, yeah. I'm planning to do a live recording and also, but first I'm planning to do an event, a worship night. Yes, it's called the Zion Edition. One of the, one of the vision scores given me is the Zion Edition. So the Zion Edition will be doing annually now by the grace of God. And it's just to gather worshipers, just comment, just be the presence of the Lord the whole night. I'm meeting two people. One of them is live, he is the first boy. You raise the dimension up, higher, higher, higher and higher. So I'm planning, I've not yet talked with my spiritual father, so I won't expose much about that. Okay. Because of honor. But I'm planning to do it, probably in December. Yeah, yeah. So more details will be out on my social media platforms. But you will be not allowed to do it. We will be allowed to do it. We will be allowed to do it. We will be allowed to do it. Okay. Where do you expect to be in like five years? Hey, come on. I'll be influencing the whole world without God as giving me. Yeah. Amazing. The whole world. I want you to give us a parting shot. I want you to talk to someone out there who's watching you this morning. Okay, Nana feel is this everything I can do right now God is this whether it's in music life business Wherever the family children is this everything there is to life Okay, so you're there you are listening to me I want to tell you something That do what God has called it to even if it's in ministry life Education just align with what God has for your life That's the way for victory. It's not by our intellectuals not of our qualifications But what God has told you to do maybe it's in business In god has called you to sell those that's any waters. Please do it. That's where your reality dwells in Those in ministry I would tell you one thing Focus on what God has deposited in your life and much more embrace growth The young people like me God has given you a gift in you. Please work on it Work on it start start doing something about it. Don't worry that you're not known yet No, we just do it and focus on I'm growing day in day in day in as course as time goes by and God will God will do so very many things in marvelous things in their life. So don't give up don't give up now if you give up Who will take over from there? No one else and time is coming. Jesus Christ is coming very soon So and our our our tags will be the souls of people in our life So you can't give up don't give up So keep doing what God has called you to do That's where lies your reality. God bless you Amina, thank you so much. Thank you for coming. Thank you for your time Thank you for the nuggets of wisdom So I feel edified, you know, and I hope you're also feeling edified at home That was Hillary the worshipper a worshipper in this generation that God is raising To work in great dimensions and depths and I hope you have been edified. You have learned You have known a couple of things name Sema, especially when you're in the church A the spiritual cover is not to meet your needs They are to cover you Not I Need to go to where I'm giving money, you know, yeah, but don't touch the tile. We're coming back with more