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obviously we don't do that often because we want people to see the actual complete edited version that's good that has all this extra chatter right now like us that you know isn't part of anything but all right let's get the shindig going shall we okay I'll start my recording all right you good to go over there yep I'm good all right so we'll do the countdown with the good old clap okay three two one three two one also it's funny how we both did the clap at the same time you know my three two one was faster than the rhythm anyways you know what's up you're a veteran at this point all right all right here we go what you got a you got a tall me there yeah now I gotta raise my chair where do I got to lower my chair you could have lowered your chair right but I didn't realize okay sure either way fine it's all right you got to show off your taller hey everyone welcome to the Nintendo Prime podcast episode 65 it's awesome that we're back for Road to E3 unfortunately Darren is not back with us we know he wasn't here last week due to some scheduling differences we had to move things around and I think he just honestly forgot and he said oh I'm sorry he's gonna bring on a guest this week well then the guest he's gonna bring on backed out and then Darren unfortunately got hurt at work so he's just in too much pain to sit down through something like this for now hopefully he's back next week wish you well Darren whenever you do hear this podcast but we did grab somebody else you guys might be familiar with here at Nintendo Prime especially if you watch us on live streams on the weekend because he's the only thing that's pretty much guaranteed to happen on the weekends that is mr. 5j gaming hey guys this is also maybe a good time to mention that while this you most of you guys are gonna see this after the fat 5j is actually a regular member of our prime cast which made a return finally after being gone for it's funny we had a private guest for two weeks then nothing for two weeks and now we're back but that's kind of how things go when you're launching a new show and scheduling conflicts and things just come up but hopefully as we get into the summer we kind of get this regular ball going with that for those who don't know the prime cast is a different podcast it's a live podcast with a live Q&A session and we talk about news whatever news happened for that past week that deals with Nintendo stuff 5j's usually on it he's been on every episode so far AJ from fanatics 4 has been on every episode so far game over Jesse was on the first episode although really was he really on the first episode but anyways this is our road to e3 week 3 this is a special one to me because this is the halfway point since we started we we started road to e3 two episodes back and this is week 3 it only goes for week 6 and literally when the road to e3 week 6 hits it's the day before Nintendo's press conference so well like we're halfway there it's stunning to me I mean even when I think about you know like that the road to e3 week 6 landing the day before for us we will have recorded it like four days earlier and been on a flight to like two days after recording yeah so it's just crazy to me how fast it's gonna go from we recorded now we're gone and we're putting up an episode while we're ready it's just gonna be crazy this week's theme is because we've actually been theming these ones so week one was all about our our dream line up our wishes and desires versus what we think's going to happen at Nintendo's little press conference or I think they're calling it now the Nintendo Direct 2018 at e3 or something like that somewhere along the lines of that but we talked about that in week one week two was just Eric and I reminiscing on the only other time we went to e3 representing Zelda informer and then looking forward to this e3 and what we learned and what we're gonna do try to do different and if you were ever interested in the kind of content we're gonna provide that's the episode you want to watch that's a road to e3 week 2 this week 3 is essentially rumor week we are gonna discuss as many rumors as we can remember there's a few specific rumors we're for sure gonna touch on and the final topic I know is anything that we seem to remember or recall about any other rumors that might have been swirling around somewhere out there on the internet because there's is anyone at this point should know especially if you're watching a gaming podcast a Nintendo one especially as you get to e3 rumors start flying all over and by the time this rumor cast comes out there's gonna be gonna be 10 more rumors that we haven't even heard of so it's impossible the only way you could technically argue that you would have every rumor heading into e3 is if it would have been a live podcast the day of e3 so let's let's caveat this by saying that this life's this podcast is being recorded on May 17th at about 10 20 central so so anything that happens after this way we know we discussed rumors are proven false I'm sorry yeah right it was a time of recording so interestingly enough my printer isn't working so we don't have the topics in front of me I know the for I know which which rumors we're covering but 5j actually has the details because the details were in the topic list so what I will do is I want to introduce the topic and then I will let 5j list off the things that are supposedly part of this rumor so like the very first topic we have for you guys believe it or not I don't think it comes as any surprise everyone's been talking about it the Pokemon rumors so what are these Pokemon rumors 5j so we've got a few different things here the titles we've heard a couple of different ones the one that's getting the most traction right now is let's go Pikachu and let's go Eevee so it's sort of a yellow remake is the feel they're going for there when your starters were your rival had Eevee and you had Pikachu they're saying red and blue would be in the game but you're a totally new trainer your Pokemon follows behind you like Pikachu did but it sounds like it's not going to be just limited to Pikachu at least as far as this rumor goes it they're saying that it connects with Pokemon go and has some inspiration coming from the the difference of what the Pokemon go game is versus the core RPG but it is still a core RPG entry so those are kind of the big details that are floating out there right now and to even like the one reason I wanted to lead with this one is because it appears that Nintendo has gone ahead and bought the domain names for Pokemon let's go Pikachu and Pokemon let's go Eevee so out of all of the rumors out there this is the one that has the most backing of being legit right at the time of us recording or or they're just doing it just to screw with us I mean they buy all sorts of domains so you never really know the interesting thing is the day the names leaked is the same day they bought the domain so you could argue they bought the domain then they didn't buy the domain at that point because they don't know that's a one way to like oh because people are always scouring for domains being purchased like they were like oh look at this they just bought this new Pokemon domain that's opposite the name of the game but then maybe they figured once the name was out there they need to buy it before a fan does yeah or that as said oh fans bought it let's buy those make them think it's legit and then drop the hammer and it's not right yeah but Nintendo's never done that and they've never there's a first time for everything but I don't know that they do this at a time when Ted Tsubiki machine is on the way out and Furukawa is on the way in I don't know if they want to start it off but we're gonna troll fans on the way why not I just don't think that's gonna happen it's a sense of humor yeah and plus and plus this is beyond you know the fact that it's gonna register the remains there are more sources for this rumor than any other rumor on this list and we're talking like Kotaku IGN GameSpot Eurogamer and all of them using their own sources like so even though you might have heard some stuff from Emily Rogers or specific people on Twitter or whatever that's not who these places are sourcing they have their own contacts that they have talked to about these rumors and are confirming them so at this point it's all about it's all about do you you know do you want to believe them or not essentially because there's so much backing behind it that at least the name of the games you know the rest of the details you know whatever with the name of the game seem to at least be it's Pokemon wait yeah it's but it's a Pokemon your tears got Pokemon in the name somewhere Eric and I actually talked about this a little bit actually a lot of it on a live stream last night so what I want to kind of throw this at 5j over there what are you thinking about these rumors here you know I can totally see them going for yellow instead of red and blue simply because they've already done red and blue remakes they haven't done a yellow remake there were interesting ideas in yellow that they haven't come back to yet like having the Pokemon follow by follow behind you like that happens in the show all the time any time they go anywhere they always have their Pokemon outside of their Pokeballs following them I think that is a fun thing that they could definitely add back in so I mean some of this stuff sounds definitely plausible connecting with Pokemon go I think that even could be plausible as well because thinking about what they did with heart gold and soul silver they included a little poker walker so that when you weren't playing the game you were still getting your Pokemon experience and stuff that when you did finally get back to the game you'd sync it up with this little walker and they give you experience it could be something like that as well but it's thinking with your phone that you have on you all the time so honestly it does sound very plausible I mean I'm not crazy about the names but I don't know I there's a ring of Nintendo is just crazy enough to do this sort of thing you know yeah well it's one of those things where at least in the Nintendo Prime community there's been a lot of backlash against this rumor because a lot of people don't want it to be true and the more and more it sounds like it's gonna be true the more and more pissed off people seem to be getting and sure you know my whole thought is that this should I mean basically how I've been looking at the whole time is Pokemon go is the biggest thing that ever happened to Pokemon and I'm not trying to like it revolutionize things but what I mean is like there's so many people that played the game it is the highest peak concurrent user base ever yeah any video game in the history of video games nothing's even been remotely close like everyone's fortnight fortnight fortnight concurrent player base nowhere near the peak of Pokemon go yeah and even Pokemon go where it is today is higher than most games will ever see ever yeah so it's well over a year later it's like insanely popular even to this day still and I think game freak looked at that and they looked at the fact that a lot of fans know that game freak seems to have been been chasing quote-unquote gen oneers and for those who don't know what that turn means it's essentially people who only played gen one and thus think gen one is the best gen ever and never play well Pokemon game and I mean I mean I don't consider myself to be a gen oneer but obviously I was a gen two or gen one and gen two and I've dabbled in other generations of Pokemon but you know yeah obviously I haven't been as into Pokemon as I was during gen one and gen two when I was a kid I don't know how much of it was the time period of being a kid right or how much of it is I just don't like things that have changed in Pokemon over the years but my feeling is that they saw Pokemon going like we need to do that because when that when they talked about you know all these things they might have done to get gen oneers back in the past you want to know why because gen ones the best-selling generation of Pokemon games no mainline core RPG Pokemon is sold more than gen one so they're they're looking at it as we need to do like we need to get back to that because right now with what's kind of happened and this is just me looking at sales figures I don't know what game freak and the Pokemon company are actually thinking when I look at the sales figures it's kind of consistent game-to-game I mean some game might have three million more than the other but when you're talking about Pokemon that's not a huge swing you know whether you sell 12 million or 15 million it's still right in that same ballpark of numbers where for other games you like three million news that's a big deal like Pokemon is consistently over 10 mm-hmm so like it's one of those things where they're not growing the fan base they're just maintaining it and I don't think they like that and I don't think they realized how big a fan base could be for the game until Pokemon go landed and there's a lot of things that may Pokemon go work and there's a plenty of people that play Pokemon go that had never played Pokemon before but I think that's the point mm-hmm how can they get people who have never played Pokemon before to come play Pokemon and I'm not saying that kids don't try out Pokemon or whatever but like when I worked at elementary school there were some kids that knew about Pokemon but most kids weren't playing Pokemon yeah that's just not what they're growing up with these days they're growing up with the minecrafts are still a big deal the PUBG is the college of these the four nights but but even if you get away from the violent games because you have parents that I think are actually being responsible and not letting their kids play those games you mean an elementary should be an elementary school come on come on parents so let's get on top like if I hear one more kid talk about how they played five nights at Freddy's I don't care how much that is targeted to kids a little bit that game is inappropriate oh kids I don't know why they're even a lot of places math but you know what parents think they you know I can't tell you how to parent but I'm just telling you that it's just too soon I'm sure it's a lot of parents like I didn't play I was a kid I wish I could have played these sorts of games and so I'm just gonna let anything go for my kids it might not even be that too it might just be they buy the game and they just give it to the kid and they don't even bother to check the content of it at all they just buy it and give it to them call a duty yeah right on it you'd actually be surprised though yeah I have a friend who works at GameStop you'd actually be surprised yeah I'm not seeing parents like at game stores you know the the employee that know hey you know this is a M rated game it's meant for adults and parents will be like all his friends play it so yeah there's that exactly it's like I can't stop them and the thing is I'm not saying that it means your kids are gonna go be messed up of course I mean I played violent video games yeah I wasn't an elementary student that explains a lot like I didn't start playing those games until I was like over the age of 10 yeah yeah for sure so it's like you're playing at age four or five six I'm sorry yeah usually playing Barbie's Adventureland or something I don't know something that's heck play Legend of Zelda for crying out loud even the one that's rated T is better for you than some of these I'm rated anyway my obviously my opinion there but I feel like what they saw Pokemon go is look what could be now obviously we're not gonna hit the same kind of user base because there's just way more phones than anything else in the world out there to potential audience but they look at it as if we're gonna passport gen one we need to learn what Pokemon go did to capture everyone right so while that might upset the current player base I actually liken this a lot to Breath of the Wild because there are a lot of detractors from Breath of the Wild believe it or not despite all the game of the year awards despite it being the best selling Zelda game of all time there is a significant chunk of Zelda fans that have been playing Zelda games this entire time that do not like Breath of the Wild hate the breakable items I think the world's too big they hate like dungeons they really really hate the dungeons there's no traditional they hate the Korok seed questing they think the characters aren't fleshed out enough I think the world's too empty they think this I think that they think a zillion and one things that they point out that they feel all the other Zelda games did better and that this doesn't feel like a Zelda game it feels like an open-world RPG that has Zelda slapped on it and I'm not gonna sit there and say they're wrong right that's there that's how they that's their subjective viewpoint and into a certain extent I can kind of agree yeah but I use this as an example of Pokemon fans today who are really upset with these rumors because I'm not saying that Game Freak and the Pokemon company doesn't care about you because they've been giving you games that you obviously have been enjoying for decades what I'm saying is Game Freak is tired of being stagnant they think they found something with what Niantic did with Pokemon Go to stop being stagnant and start growing the fan base again and I feel like that's what they're trying to like I'm like I fully admit I'm not that into let's go Pikachu yeah yeah but and the way you see it go in that mock-up logo or whatever it's kind of like clearly a Pokemon Go reference right but it's also a way to hook people who maybe have only played Pokemon Go because they're gonna see them like wait is that is that Pokemon Go 2 well what is that over there so clearly it's a way to try to grab that audience it's a fantastic yet really horrible marketing it's a good marketing yeah to go players right kind of sort of a bad marketing to already existing book and the thing is I've always thought Pokemon naming conventions are bad anyway diamond and pearl red blue like what the hell does any of that mean yeah yeah yeah yeah red and blue kind of made sense with I just wish green when I actually had well right in blue I mean the cartridge colors and the name of the characters as red and blue no not just that but you know firewater with sure Charizard and Blastoise yes it made sense but there was no diamond type Pokemon yes yeah like it just I've never liked the naming convention of Pokemon anyway so when I look at it like let's go Pikachu I think my issue is just too many words yeah versus you know like they've just been called Pokemon let's go I'm like now that would have been ideal because I don't know what version of the game is it a tube that's it's not even for a different time I know it's traditionally been so yes right but I feel like that that this is the way I'm approaching as one I don't think any of us should judge anything except whether or not you like the name like the name until we see the game because we haven't seen it reality is assuming these are real we haven't seen the game and even if they're not real we still haven't seen the game yeah so we have nothing that like for all the haters I just say let's calm our tits and wait till we actually know what this is because there were other rumors out there like saying oh there it's a red and blue remake yellow remake oh it ultra violet those people that are upset that we might be going back to canto again and I'm like okay I mean there's people that are upset that we're going to go back to Hyrule and Zelda all the time but it's the og land of Pokemon yeah of course the og the original Pokemon land is obviously going to appear more in the Pokemon franchise than any other land is the og just like the most cannon of cannon like Hyrule is the og land in Zelda but it's not the only land ever appeared in a Zelda game but we're gonna go to Hyrule more than we go anywhere else more than Koholint Island yeah oh boy a term and another example right new Hyrule is technically not the original Hyrule it's just a completely unoriginal name it's like New York yeah exactly York in New York actually it is but yeah that's kind of my takeaway is is I think what they're trying to do is breath of the wild the Pokemon franchise and it's not just what they saw a Pokemon go it's what they saw a breath of the wild breath of the wild upset all these Zelda fans in one corner but then became the best-selling Zelda game of all time right and as I'm pasted through something A.G. Anuma has said he's been trying to do the entire time he's been running the Zelda franchise he wants his all the game to cross 10 million units breath of the wild just on switch is on paste across 10 million on switch alone nice overall it's already crossed 10 million if you count the Wii U version in so of course they do well no they aren't they don't really talk about the Wii U version we haven't had a sales update since the 1.5 million so we don't actually know if there's more than 1.5 out there but all I know is it's the first Zelda game to ever sell over 10 million you know at from its launch platforms it's gonna be the first Zelda game to ever sell 10 million on a single platform and Pokemon looks at that they look at Pokemon going they say why can't we be the first Pokemon games to sell 30 million yeah why can't we do this what are we doing wrong why can't we cross that 20 million barrier again what is blocking us and right Mario's done it yeah I think well in my Mario's Mario's a really good comparison Mario's always been a big seller right like Pokemon consistent big seller 3d games haven't always been the biggest but the 2d games those kids those move 20 30 million all the time yeah and now they just had it as another thing look they look what they just did with Odyssey it is on pace to become the fastest selling and best selling 3d Mario game ever so there's this thing where whether or not you think Odyssey flipped the script it still was something we haven't seen in a long time right now you have Breath of the Wild that did flip the script on the Zelda series you had Pokemon go blow up and the game freaks it about looking like so we've been like the biggest thing on Nintendo for a long time and now these other things are starting to basically be just as big as we approach us if not because we have not expanded our reach and yet the stars above 30 years in just had its best selling game of all time yeah you know Mario 30 years in now is this best selling 3d Mario it's like what are we doing wrong yeah maybe just jamming a hundred new characters in every time isn't enough anymore enough and there's there's people that are not going to play future Zelda games because you know I said all future Zelda games are going to be inspired by Breath of the Wild and are going to be open world and there's a lot of Zelda fans I'm not gonna play again and you know what the Zelda game goes we don't really care we sold 10 million of this we have way more customers interested in this than ever interested yeah we were doing before yeah and I hate saying that that's the way game freaks gonna view it but there is a chance that they're gonna revolutionize quote-unquote revolutionize the Pokemon series do some radically different things maybe outsell generation one a Pokemon and they might never turn back right and if that happens I'm sorry to the fans that end up not liking it but we have to remember first and foremost these companies are for-profit businesses trying to grow and if they find a path for these franchises that makes the fan base get a healthy growth pattern I can't blame them even if it ends up not appealing to me I can't blame them they should absolutely be trying to do that and it also means that they won't view the franchises oh it's obviously not stagnant because now we have growth even if we lose fans here we have gained way more over here and I think that does scare some Pokemon fans and there is another rumor I didn't throw in there it's attached to this it's that game freaks actually working on to switch Pokemon games so there's this one and then there's one that is like a more traditional style one that might be for 2019 or 2020 and I think the idea there is that game freaks trying to hedge their bets they're saying we're gonna try this radically different thing if it falls on its face we're ready to go back to bring back the fan base but if it blows up I could see that other game never coming out I think it's just one of those they're trying to do what Nintendo did with the DS where it's not the replacement for the Game Boy the switch it's not every place and for 3DS like it replaced right it replaced but like they wanted to be like if this flops we're not we're dropping all our eggs in that basket right so like we are trying to do something radical that's what I view what they're trying to do with this but they're not gonna put like bet the whole farm on it because they know this might alienate a bunch of fans so we need to have something prepared to bring those fans back if this doesn't get the growth we want it comes out is the worst selling Pokemon game ever they they know they need to instantly your message yeah and they don't want to wait to be able to battle because if they wait until people react it might be three years before we get a traditional Pokemon game and that might be three years too long you might have lost the audience yeah so they need to be prepared you know I don't even a year out from when Pokemon releases to have that traditional on ready if that flops so I think that's that's what's what's possibly happening behind the scenes yeah and that makes sense because they typically do release a new Pokemon game every year so I mean new generations are usually there's a year gap than a new generation but it's still one of those we'll just have to wait and see I honestly think that this Pokemon game or these pair of Pokemon games they are trying to breath of the wild the series and we'll see how many fans stick with it how many fan I mean it could also be one of those things where it sounds crazy for many people it sounds stupid because they don't like Pokemon go or whatever the case may be and I just keep reminding people remember the reaction to when you heard that Mario and Rabbids were teaming up I'm sorry so the craziest stupidest crossover ideas ever sounds stupid and we're talking about within the same franchise Pokemon go and Pokemon if it crosses over somehow and they make it work yeah great it's not gonna be for everyone but I'm sorry to tell you guys this might be a news flash Pokemon games aren't for everyone yeah well that's another point is that Pokemon go grabbed a new audience which is the old audience mainly older players instead of exclusively 12 year olds so they may also be trying to gather more of the older gamers out there instead of the perpetual young basically they're attempting to get John Warner's back except this time they think they found a way to do it yeah unlike all the other prior attempts that never brought them back right but it's not just that I also think they want to introduce newer gamer like a lot of kids even know about Pokemon go it's a phone game they all have their smart devices so they know about it and it may be even played it at one point so I just kind of I kind of think that Pokemon's doing they're hedging their bets they're making sure that everything's not in one basket but then at the same time they are trying something radical and I'm not gonna judge until we see it yeah definitely I'm obviously taking the cautiously optimistic approach here but you know as you guys all well know I fell out a lot of Pokemon a long time ago so maybe something radically different like this is what I need to get back into it or maybe it's so radically different that I don't recognize it I'm like you know what I'm just gonna play Pokemon go yeah and this is garbage like this is just not good yeah but that I don't know I mean Eric you've been kind of quiet over there what are your thoughts here oh I know the first thing I'm in my mouth yesterday when that when that question came up is I am totally gonna reserve my judgment until yeah I mean it's hard any sort of gameplay or for sure concepts for the game yeah because when you say like inspired by Pokemon go you you can think about all the things you don't think would work in their RPG you know right flicking Pokeballs yeah especially when you're holding joycons and having like to your hands like that to me feels like it would just be really weird I mean kind of interesting but they've been adding a lot of touch stuff to Pokemon so I mean it's really not a realm you know possibilities yeah like I you know but I always think you but there are some things I like in Pokemon you take your you take your joycons off and you make your throwing motion like you throw in your pillow like I keep bringing this example of because I want this to happen a Pokemon game where whoever your friends with on your switch when they beat a gym they can become that gym's leader and in your game you're fighting against your friend who's now the gym leader like how cool would that be even though if you're not actually like battling an online battle against them it's just you know the AI version of your friend how cool would it be just to wander around with your friend with it we think about that you want to create some rivalies especially when after you beat the game and you go back and keep recapturing gyms from your friends yeah and try to like try to become the gym leader of every gym yeah like wouldn't that be like that's one of the appeals of Pokemon I go where people keep going up try to capture gyms and create these factions well instead of making this a big online faction they have it just between your friends yeah you know how much back and forth Eric and I are going to do about whatever gym happens to be our favorite gym yeah that's my gym no that's hey have you turned on Pokemon this week yeah yeah good luck taking it back yeah yeah and uh you could have like all of your friends be instead of like the random encounters of like oh it's trainer joey inside the gym it's all of your friends are all members of the gym and then one of them is like the king you know the leader of the gym yeah yeah well and like I said it'd be kind of interesting to actually have you know instead of you just walking around you know if you're playing with your friend next to you connected to have you can both just walk around together yeah I mean why not and there's also like the one that Pokemon go does that's very different from Pokemon traditionally there's no random encounters you choose if you want to encounter right because you see the Pokemon in the world before you try to capture them and that's something that if they go with a full 3d world which I think some people were very interested in exploring Pokemon in a full 3d world it random encounters as much as that has worked in certain games I think in Pokemon it makes more sense that you can see the Pokemon and decide if you want to approach it or go around it or they've experimented with that a little bit when it was like the Pokemon radar or something like that yeah where you can see like the bushes rustling and then your radar will tell you what it is and you can try and hit that spot to hopefully catch that Pokemon but it's not quite the same thing as a completely non random encounters or like I said last night too that you can you know if they do show the Pokemon on the screen how many times have you gone to a patch of grass and just kind of wandered around aimlessly until hoping to find a Pokemon or if you can walk up and go oh there's nothing here and just turn around to walk away it'll save you time oh it's just a bunch of rat tatas yeah and the legendary I want it's not here right now yeah right exactly um saves you time too like I also to me makes the world more believable because technically Pokemon are just the wild animals of this world yeah so when I'm walking around and I see animals you know a lot of these animals are based on a lot of them are based on animals too it's like okay these are wild animals you should be able to see wild animals right it should be like I randomly I randomly took a step and landed on a slow bro it's like do you know how big slow bro is yeah right you don't just randomly step on a slow bro yeah yeah yeah just have one obviously you're sitting there you know how crazy it would be to just all of a sudden you're just walking around all of a sudden this is where it comes flying at you're like oh really yeah it's I just feel like if we talk about inspirations like that I think those could be positive changes yes but that's because I think those are just cool ideas I don't even know if I would like it I gotta see how to implement it but um I don't I'm just more so speaking to the people who are so against us like let's just wait and see what it is and then you can decide if it's not for you and if it's not for you I guess we'll know if they made a good decision when it comes out and we see the sales figures I mean if it comes out and all of a sudden it's record first week sales like never seen before they obviously did something yeah okay I think we can almost all agree on though the names are a little meh but yeah the names are definitely uh we're trying to capture people who are familiar with Pokemon Go very clearly but so that I think that's about the only thing right now that we can actually well besides letting our judgment wait yeah I'll say that I mean we're having the game's name after it's Pikachu yes and I know a lot of us associated Pokemon Red is Pokemon Charizard yes Pokemon Blue is Pokemon but you still have choices to be Pokemon right and Pokemon Yellow is really just Pikachu because you get Pikachu that one was literally called those special Pikachu edition yeah I know what's that yeah but but that was kind of like a subset of the title it was still Pokemon Yellow special Pikachu edition yeah and the interesting thing there too is that not only was it you know a special edition it was actually tailored after the story of the anime so maybe we're looking at a tie into a new anime series and that could be great as well because from what I have heard now I haven't paid a whole lot of attention to the anime I've watched a little bit of the Sun and Moon one because it's on Netflix now but um I've heard that the games and the animes haven't always tied together as well like those like there's Sun and Moon anime but it doesn't really tie in with the Sun and Moon game right like it's the same gyms or whatever there's not gyms in Sun and Moon that's just out the same the stories don't really line out the characters don't it's like it would be kind of cool if we get a full new generation or remade generation or whatever it is with new anime and even new trading cards everything that just kind of goes together because I talked about before when I was a kid even though red and blue came first and then the anime hit like really shortly after and then yellow happened which was basically it was red and blue but more like more akin to the anime version of it um and and then you had the trading card game and also like everything felt interconnected like red and blue inspired the anime which made them release a third version of red and blue that kind of encapsulated the anime in the current version of the games and then you had the trading card game and everything just felt like a meshed and worked well um and I to me and this is probably this might be the biggest thing that pushed me away from Pokemon I kept watching the anime and I was playing you know gold and silver and playing uh you know what was that diamond and pearl I can remember whatever was after gold and silver um and and I'm just like these don't seem connected anymore and when you start disconnecting like that I just I wasn't interested and I realized you know people say oh what about the first Pokemon movie that never happened I'm like you're right the first Pokemon movie never happened in the game but it definitely made me feel like I'm a huge deal me too feel like a huge deal right yeah and thus when you could get them in the game that was a huge deal right so it's the reason to freak out felt like it was connected even though that storyline wasn't necessarily in the game right um but that feeling doesn't really at least from what I could tell doesn't really feel like it's there you see people talking about the anime on as its own thing the games is their own thing yes they're still loosely connected and that when new generations start so did new generations of the anime but they're not really interconnected it's more of a we're acquainted with each other um and I'd like to see that happen as well I think that's another thing that could also make Pokemon become massive again is connecting everything together um but we'll see we don't know what they're gonna do I mean the anime is a whole nother you know we haven't heard anything on that so it might be interesting to see a patch into the game everyone's well just all of a sudden references the anime just completely self aware oh yeah um so I guess we'll go to our second rumor here um and it deals with a certain thing that supposedly retro studios is doing fill us in on those deeds 5j okay so uh possibly retro studios related is a star fox f0 racing game possibly called star fox grand prix uh a combination of sort of sort of diddy kong racing style uh combat racing and the more serious high speed f0 series uh the rumor says that it features an adventure mode with boss fights uh and uh like we said made by retro studios and there was also another rumor kind of attached to this that retro was supposedly working on a second game and that it may have been canceled and that may be part of the reason why we haven't heard from them in so long yeah uh and I'm gonna add some additional details because there was an interview or a podcast or something that uh this is what sucks about Liam Robertson canceling today he was on he was on another podcast and he is actually an insider and he kind of talked about some more details he's heard he's not saying these details are true but obviously the podcast had that had that topic in there about star fox grand prix he's like well hey look I've heard some things too I'm just gonna tell you what I've heard I'm not saying I believe it but these are what the people I know that have been correcting the past are telling me and some of the additional details were like um it's more a you know it's based around the R-wing more than like the landmaster um and so you know it's more of a flight based racing and uh when you're even doing multiplayer races uh you can you can actually shoot and kill enemies that come on the screen to get boosts uh you can shoot other players uh there's apparently like this hub area before you get into uh that has like all the major star fox characters it's kind of like a battleship kind of thing and you go like chit chat and do all these crazy things and there's like a story that that builds off of all that um so uh and I think those were if like the major details he had that we hadn't heard yet and when I heard that I'm like okay this reminded me of one thing for anyone that thought this is really weird and maybe shouldn't exist right retro studios has never made a bad game and when I heard this stuff I'm like okay you know what whether or not this is true if it is true hell yes sounds like a hell this is a hell of a game and I don't know why anyone's doubting retro studios ability to pull this off it might and you might be upset we're not getting an f-zero game or a new diddy con racing or new curbie air ride or whatever you want whatever racing even new star fox wait new snowboard kids I mean no you know you might be upset that we're not getting new things in existing racing franchises and you might be upset that maybe we're like a new traditional star fox game but what has retro studios ever done to make you think this is going to be anything other than excellent right and that's a mention they have a history of rebooting franchises so it makes perfect sense that they'd be moving on they've made three Metroid games they made two donkey con country games why not it's time for them to make a star fox game I mean I would say I want them to make an original ip and it's possible that might have been the cancel game um maybe but reality is they have every time they're handed a nintendo ip that's been struggling a bit they nail it yeah so yeah they're taking star fox in a completely different direction but what did we just talk about with pokemon this seems to be a theme with switch yeah forget what we've done we how can we make you popular that more popular than you've ever been today that is a switch that's in and upon itself we've taken everything you've known about gaming and completely flipped it on its head yeah I mean triple eight games on the go yeah didn't think that was possible guess what it is you know this is exactly what you've thought of gaming and then we've taken it farther yeah and you look at retro studio track record right for especially the first entry in these kind of things metroid was kind of sort of that series that would sell two million a couple million at most wasn't really hitting big didn't know what to really do with with the 3d perspective or they should stay as a 2d side scrolling thing and retro studios comes in this is metroid prime best-selling metroid of all time donkey con country returns comes in I'm not sure if it's the best selling but it's among the best selling in the returns in the country series at 6.5 million after not even having that series around for over a decade yeah so I don't know how well this game is going to sell but I know it's going to be so damn good so damn hyped I wouldn't be surprised if it becomes the best selling star fox game ever and then you might be like but it's not real stuff I'm telling you if they focus on the arwing combat and they do it the way they're sounding it's going to feel like star fox just they're they're turning this on rail flight shooting thing and do a multiplayer on rail flight shooting thing with a race aspect I actually think it almost fits better than people realize yeah enough to mention star fox has basically been the same game since the original and yeah so they thought they really need to find a new way to put star fox out there you know yeah I mean they did some some interesting things there was a star fox adventure where put that was another game that they put a star fox skin on kind of thing sure but then people didn't like it so then they were like oh better not do that again yeah it it's one of those things that whenever I see these negative reactions either because they want a different type of star fox game or they want a different type of racing game I'm just like yeah and you probably wanted a different type of Zelda game and a different type well maybe you didn't want a different type of mario ever too many complaints about odyssey so much more so breath of the wild um it you wanted a different type of pokemon game and now potentially this could be the best selling pokemon game you want a different episode like nintendo is all a what does nintendo always preach anyways I'm not gonna say this is what they're all about but they self proclaim they're always about innovation right you can't have innovation by just doing the same thing so people who want and I'm not saying that doing the same in doing the same thing that you can't innovate within that's but nintendo's at their best when they're doing things you never expect them to do did you ever expect say 10 years ago that we would have a they have a full 3d open world Zelda game no yeah no I mean ocarina of time must be affairs of closest we'll get so maybe we'll get something like that or try the principles but even those are kind of linear it's not really open world um like it's just not it it you know they haven't really done it since zelda one so why would they go back to it and and they did you know that I'm not gonna say that no one ever thought that a Mario Odyssey could happen like because we've had awesome 3ds of Mario games before so that's why I think that's a little less surprising um but that anyone think the pokemon go came out that we might be getting pokemon games that take inspiration from pokemon go I mean you just kind of got to look at this as and the thing is regardless of if the star fox stuff is true or not whatever retro studios finally reveals someday I don't know how anyone could doubt it's excellent I just yeah it could be a powder puff girls game yeah and why not it's still going to be excellent because it's retro studios it's kind of like to mention their expectations are sky high so it wasn't excellent and they wouldn't release the game right and the only thing I will say is that that's a it's almost unfair to retro studios nintendo themselves treats retro studios a lot like they treated rare because think about the stuff they're doing all these were things that rare did took took beloved nintendo ip and did something new with it like when doggie island country happened that was a completely new direction for donkey kong yeah completely different from a donkey kong it ever been so and I'm even you know what I'm gonna even I'm just gonna sit on that example right there for anyone who hates completely new directions over what the franchise has always been dog if you love the donkey kong country series at all whether the rare versions are better to you or the retro versions are better either way that entire series is a 100% departure from what donkey kong was yeah metroid prime even though you can say it has the feeling it is not a 2d side scrolling platformer yeah completely different from what metroid has ever been a first shooter I mean that's totally different when it was metroid gonna be a first person shooter yeah when they decided to do it so anytime I see people get upset at radically different directions for things I'm like but when nintendo does that it works a lot of the time the most part yeah when it's radically different a lot of times it works so it's like let's just sit back and I know it's hard it's hard when you love something and change is coming I think a lot of it has to do with just the the different types of games and the the names of the games that are getting thrown around being combined it's just who thought I mean it's not like it's not it can't work it's who thought of this well to me this if all the let's assume all these rumors somehow are true this is nintendo at their best this is nintendo living up to their their claims that we like to innovate and they're doing it within the ip's they already have as well as releasing new ip's like arms and swatoon like this is the nintendo i like that what excites me about switch so much actually ironically is that this is the nintendo I grew up with you had new ip's and radical new directions for games coming out nonstop through the 80s and 90s right then after we got past the initial 3d revolution things kind of kind of kind of just stayed floating around there you still had some new things we sports you know the we itself the ds but they did some new things but it never felt as exciting as like yeah but we're looking at all of our major ip's and doing something new yeah they always actually I feel like starfox and f0 actually make a lot of sense um they they feel like they could be like different solar systems inside of the same universe sure yeah it's entirely possible even f0 starfox and even metro i could somehow interconnect somewhere yeah just based on the space theme of course yeah but smash so like you might think that like the talking animals of starfox don't fit inside of f0 at all but when in the later days of f0 uh there was a game on gba uh i think it was f0 gp legends yes that game was super story heavy because there was a whole anime about f0 at a certain point i don't think it ever came to america but we got the game boy advanced game and they had all sorts of talking dinosaurs and ridiculous over the top story lines and that would fit just fine with starfox nice so i i don't know i'm i'm excited for this i i almost hope it's real because i think it's just crazy enough for retro studios to make it work i hope it's real just in the fact that it's it's crazy i like this crazy nintendo no matter what franchise they tackle is making me just smile right right so like for all you guys be like oh it's just nothing but a wee port machine and while you see what they're doing with all these ips because this is crazy there's a reason that maybe it's taken a little longer for these things to come out do you see what they're doing yeah right yep the ports are just keeping the interest going while they work on the weird stuff their holovers until you start getting this crazy stuff that's going to make the switch potentially nintendo's best selling platform of all time like let's just nintendo's going for it they are going all out in my i'm actually scared for when this generation is over because i don't know where you go from here like how do you follow a breath of the wild i i don't know how do you follow obviously i have no idea i don't have to worry about that that's a nintendo's problem thing we don't have to worry about that that's totally nintendo's problem so it's a good problem to have too many great things happening in that in a same time period i yeah right um i guess let's uh let's touch on that last one quick uh because it's actually a rumor that we don't know at least i don't think we know much more um deals with smash bros um hasn't been a lot that has really come out about it there's some stuff from a while back um but i think anything that's more than like two or three months old i just don't even feel like it's worth talking about because it's two or three months ago people could just make it up whatever they want yeah it has whereas now we're we're closer to a time when we're going to be playing and seeing the game so i know this one off the top of my head is essentially the only major semi major supposedly rumor whatever you want to call it to come out is that spiral and crash are supposedly playable in the game oh yeah um and obviously the crash one we based on the fact that the crash reignited is coming to the platform and spiral or crash crash insane trilogy it's spiral reignited uh is is rumored out there is being announced at e3 you blow up crash on enough tnt boxes you might you might start a fire you never know exactly so um it's also the one rumor of the three that i feel like is just kind of thrown out there and people are always throwing out smash throwing out ideas and hoping it sticks to i hear a zillion and one smash rumors for characters and like most of them never come true so we had a whole section of podcast and just throwing out random characters and there's the fact that sakurai and i know we're talking about things that have never been done before with sakurai over all of the smash games has never included western created characters they've always been either a nintendo or japanese japanese companies so like throwing two of those in the same game one's unlikely let alone two um so it's it could happen this is the generation that nintendo's doing crazy things did just talk about how i don't know that i don't know that like you would consider adding a couple of western characters to being crazy but the thing is is i don't know if those would be the characters that i would choose to add what would you who would you add well i mean instead instead of those two but i mean bandra kazooie makes a whole hell of a lot more sense to me it does you come lately i know that's not a big yeah it's not big enough yet but i but i feel like yeah bandra kazooie makes sense in so much of it was an important part of nintendo's history right but it's also owned by a competitor yes the competitor wants them in the game and would probably allow nintendo to use them for free and might even let nintendo keep all the money they make off of that character not even charge a licensee fee i can see you know phil spencer being totally okay with that especially if they plan to bring bandra kazooie back eventually yeah but my thing is that's just like saying a character that sony fully owns is going to be in the game it's just not going to happen oh right no but that i love it was one of those things that it those wouldn't be the characters that i would choose i just don't think i don't think it's a bandra kazooie i don't think is because as we just noted microsoft wants it to happen right but i it's one of those things where i don't think nintendo would ever even bother to ask they wouldn't even consider yeah possibility no no because they're like we're not going to advertise the competitors oh i get it whereas we're like if we advertise crash crashes on our system they advertise spirals is like they've had you know the caveat is the thing that blows in pulls entirely my face for this is we had cloud yeah well cloud what about snake yeah we've had metal gear games at the time metal gear snake eater was on 3ds so we technically had metal gear games so there was still an argument but we there was an argument like you can have argument to include final fantasy characters of the final fantasy games that were on the platform final fantasy seven has never been on a nintendo system and they put cloud in smash now the plot process behind that all was that plan fantasy seven remastered might be coming during the time of the platform well with all the delays and all the crap for that no one really knows what's happening right um so who knows maybe maybe maybe the idea when they included cloud was that it was going to come but with all the delays you know ended up not lining up so maybe we end up seeing that you know be in a game that gets announced at e3 for switch but um but again that that's what blows up in my face when I say that is you have a cloud literally makes no sense yeah but all the characters added high demand character probably sold the crap load as dlc at the same point but made no sense for all the other reasons that they add the other character at the same point time i want to also shame nintendo what the hell were you thinking not buying rare come on i mean they were like just practically going here take our company please buy it from us please please i look at this as too cold the part of me wanted them to buy rare obvious for obvious reasons at the time the other part of me says but if they bought rare they would have never bought retro studios so we wouldn't have metroid prime we wouldn't have you know dog count country as it is today granite maybe that series would have continued with rare and the other side of the court is obviously yeah we would have had more banjo kazooies and more this and more crazy new ip's more conkers but i don't there is something to be said that some of the creativity came from the people who owned rare and if they were no longer going to be involved in rare why would nintendo want to buy them out why would nintendo want to buy out the people that are making rare what they are because you know you're just buying ip's rather than paying for talent like unlike when they bought retro studios they bought the talent too right but damn i want those ip's and the problem was the biggest problem was microsoft was making a hell of an offer yeah um and it was contingent on nintendo being willing to sell and they obviously gave nintendo the first option to match that offer and buy the whole of the company right because nintendo had nintendo had owned i can't remember if they owned 51 percent or not but they owned a huge chunk of rare of rare yeah that's why all the games were exclusive yeah it's kind of like uh game freak and uh the pokemon company they own a huge chunk but they're still their own companies they don't technically own game freak entirely but because of how much of each company they got a lot of share that and the fact that they're also the joint owner of the pokemon ip people people forget about this sometimes i know a lot of people think oh nintendo owns pokemon they're actually a joint owner it's a conglomerate of companies that own the pokemon ip so anything that happens like pokemon go nintendo gets a say nintendo gets a small cut of the licensing fee like pokemon go a majority that cut obviously goes to developer niantic and then the pokemon company but nintendo still makes some money at pokemon go we're never gonna see it in their financial probably due to them not realizing how big it was going to be so it's like oh you know this little company they're making a game they want to keep some of the rights to their own stuff that they make sure makes sense well if they knew it was going to be a huge phenomenon they might have been like yeah well it's not the only mobile pokemon there's magic heart job there's a pokemon shuffle so there's like nintendo doesn't care nintendo's only ever really flex their muscle being like you can do what you want with these mobile games as long as the core franchise stays on our platform right that's kind of always been like you can't put that anywhere else even if you want to console we're gonna we're gonna flex our no that's our rights as ip owners like you can't do that um and i'm not saying that game freak ever wanted to do that necessarily they've obviously seen a lot of success but um it's just very interesting to me uh how that whole situation played out and now you know nintendo and retro studios retro studios is doing its thing um but i'm very happy with obviously i hope whatever game was cancelled wasn't really cancelled it was just put on hiatus so they could finish star fox that's what i'm hoping yeah maybe because even the people who said might have been cancelled they said might which means the people they're hearing it from aren't 100 percent for sure that game might not come back yeah it could just be it's just they know they're not making it right now but it also could be fun stuff all died out you know they weren't hearing anything so the assumption is well we're not hearing anything it's probably dead yeah yeah there's that too i mean it could also be it's crunch time for star fox right let's get this done and then we'll turn around come back to we need to get this done and even if there's issues with it you know like they said it had a troubled development that doesn't mean they're giving up like maybe there's wait let's get star fox out so people stop complaining about why retro studios does not have a game let's get this amazing star fox game out whatever dlc we plan to do have a small team work on it then we'll go back and look while we're doing that let's see if we can fix this amazing idea or whatever we had and maybe it was the point that to the point where it was actually behind schedule enough where they had to pull everybody off that other ip just to get it you know back onto their their schedule and this happened to in like breath of the wild they pulled monolith soft to help get that game out yeah when they did like all the delays but to get it on switch they pulled monolith stuff so look we need help come over here we know you're making zoom by two but we need you yeah um and we own you so you have to do it we tell you anyway but but they hold they hold the whole monolith so it's not even have a choice right right um but yeah it's i don't know it's possible that like i said it's they are behind on their schedule that they needed other developers are there any other rumors you guys have heard out there you might want to touch on before we sign out here um i think um the only other one i can think might be a little bit old at this point is that um they might be doing uh a remake of links awakening similar to what they did with samus returns where did you hear that that has me excited it's one of my favorite games floating around the interwebs yeah i i don't know if it has a lot of interest it has interest to me that's why i'm like where is this and why am i not heard about it this is if yes if it hasn't been a thing it maybe needs us to be a thing needs to be a thing right now like now the only way you can get me more excited is if you said they were doing it the zelda to and i would just be like oh my god if not if it's not a rumor well let's make it a rumor now we're gonna start it here if it's not a thing speculation speculation yes i know some people might also want to bring up because i know it was a popular video in our channel we had that one video where we talked where there was the the big leak which was uh the thing i got posted game facts by laszman and some other stuff some people are saying it's been debunked some people are saying it's not it talked about the online system and all the announcements that would come on the seventh which kind of happened but kind of didn't and then uh they had the entire lineup of games for for uh e3 again uh i mean they were calling the fire emblem game lustrous daybreak just let that sink in the new fire emblem game that's coming to switch and well should absolutely be shown at e3 because it's a 2018 title they claim fire emblem lustrous daybreak i'm not saying it's a terrible name it's better than let's go Pikachu right i think they're who if whether it's made up or whether it's a real title they're clearly going for trying to make it sound like radiant dawn so maybe it's an ick starring game that's what i'm saying it's not necessarily unbelievable they would do a weird name like that but i don't know i at this point i don't really we've talked so much about that i didn't want to include that much in the in the rumor cast because it's just it's been beating the ground at this point it's either true or it's not and we'll know in less than a month yeah so i figured you know what let's focus on the rumors that have happened since then and man it's been primarily focused on these three games mostly on the starfox and pokemon stuff but man um yeah i mean you guys that are that are listening in or watching on youtube be sure to uh go down to the comments uh wherever you're having to be listening or you know you can email me or hit me up on twitter at at ninty prime just let me know like are the rumors you're hearing out we haven't even talked to i'm sure someone someone out there is gonna mention the completely fake isle of delfino footage because i've had that brought up several times let me just clear the air and it's totally fake guys it is literally the unreal engine for version that exists out there you can play for free of isle of delfino with the mario odyssey uh uh the skin put on top of that character you can tell by the movements you can tell by the fact that it lines up exactly with the unreal engine for demo that i have on my computer right now you know what let me go download the skin pack for mario and i'll link i'll link the referee for you you know off kilter cell phone footage of a tv in a dark room is automatically fake every single footage of that that has ever leaked out in nintendo history has been faked there has never been one instance of it being true i'm just letting you know for some younger viewers that might be suckered into believing it that's why we haven't had a video i'm getting suckered into one like that regarding um smash brothers for we uh so super smash brothers brawl yeah there was a rumor that there was going to be a version or a mode in the game that had blood yeah and so there was all this off-screen shaky cam footage of these characters hitting each other and all his blood flies out well obviously that was fake it turns out somebody was just modifying footage of the money mode or whatever and here's the thing i'm not saying isle of delfino can't come to mario odyssey i think there's a legit conversation you can have about that but that's based on evidence that's already in mario odyssey versus some fake footage so right because it definitely looks like especially if you examine the world map at different parts throughout the game that isle of delfino was on that world map at some point and got cut that's what it looks like to me anyways but that's that there's a lot of beach themed stuff there already so whatever the case might be i want to thank uh dlc what dlc yeah it could be dlc yeah yeah why not wait you have some some some hot take over this room you want to talk about no i'm just i'm starting one starting to see okay um anyways uh i do want to thank five j gaming for subbing infer dare and last minute i know it's even you want to hold last minute this guy was he was on another podcast and then got a live stream live stream well game over jesse all his live streams are basically i can't know if it's game or jesse love you but it really feels like a let's get some more variety please imagine if all i did was news and i had no original videos i had someone accuse me of that on a video that 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there um you guys might see me you know swear here and there and that like i consider myself more of the pg-13 variety of family friendly um especially in our night streams yes but um even even even sometimes like other like last week's podcast i swore a bunch in it like we're the family guy of family yeah the family guy of the of the family tv we're the family guy of nintendo youtubers on yeah it is what it is yeah uh and eric over here uh interesting story before he gives his twitter handle and all that stuff um for the first time in nintendo prime history if you guys are watching your e3 coverage there will be videos that eric more himself oh yeah will be editing yeah yeah wow we just did a test we did a test today with his mac mini to see if he could handle some 1080p 60 and not waste hours of time for the render turns out it's pretty good and actually it might be better than i can actually do things i don't it's not overall better i can render 4k footage better than you can but um it's still but i can export and import at the same time um that's just a quirk and possibly it's just like adobe are you listening make us a thing and possibly export two videos at once or render two videos at once i have tried that yeah i just want no i wouldn't try that hey why not what how long did it take for the one video over a half hour for a 30 minute video if that was a 4k video dude so yeah it would have took me 10 minutes for a 30 minute video good for you you gotta remember this is a 24 you gotta remember this is 2014 mac mini refurbished yes uh but anyways the point i was trying to say is for those out there that are always like when they say why do you say we sometimes because while nintendo prime is like 90 probably 99 percent me there's other people involved 5j is one of them live streams he's on the prime cast sometimes on the podcast uh we have an editor of the podcast i don't mention him a lot outside of the body and martin martin like he's part of the nintendo he's 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only person to make all 65 that might not always be the case but you know what's so great about that with eric eric pretty much knows exactly how to run the audio equipment at this point uh he's done enough of it that i think he could figure it out um he now he's gonna know how to edit videos you know what this means folks we are one step closer to that eric only show no god that he writes produces and edits himself oh boy i don't know what it would be maybe you know what you know what'll happen if madden comes to switch he's gonna have a madden series it's it's sports talk with eric it's in the game it's in the game and i must talk like this all the time anyway i just wanted to bring that up because i i do have this tendency to use the we moniker when i when i'm posting under nintendo prime then because nintendo prime itself is a brand i know i am basically the brand like if i wasn't here most of you guys wouldn't be here but i just wanted to make sure that you know what guys i have other people that do things for this channel that deserve credit so i want to make sure they get the credit they deserve um i'm like it whenever people are talking uh come to me asking for uh you know it like how could i edit things faster do you know anyone i'm like i got this guy martin over here you know he might be like where's the paid work you know if you're you know like even like 5j um you know he not does things like you know we're jesse and stuff like that like networking and creating the circle is good for these people you know eric you know he's going to e3 he's got his own business cards like literally i mean come on you want to talk about like oh i'm all by myself then why does eric have his own business cards and completely representing the company i created oh because we are a family here at nintendo prime it's not just me i'm just the centerpiece but you know what you can have the centerpiece but without but without the main courses without the side dishes the centerpiece is just a pretty thing to look at and maybe see my my triple chin that people make fun of sometimes um i've never actually seen the triple chin i have a double chin i don't know that unless i do this thing now i look like i'm back in high school anyways stretching my skin back um yeah i can't see it you see it in the final version but yeah i just want to make sure everybody who has ever helped me along the way from the people who helped created the nintendo prime logo to the person who out of the kindness of his heart uh h hdified that logo and and created the official nintendo prime text to people who have helped with the layout including eric it's another thing he's helped down with the layout at nintendo prime net to any volunteer writers who have ever helped me out at that website uh to the volunteer moderators we have for our live streams and our discord to literally people who appear on camera on the channel like eric uh eventually probably darin as well and five j and you know a j over from often venex for uh and bob bob from wolf then who's been on an episode before uh hmk like i'm so thankful for all of that because everyone makes this thing work i could not do this 100 alone it just would not be possible without this support so thank you so much you guys are amazing now yes be sure to follow eric on twitter i don't tweet much but when you do it's magical yeah yeah because you know how people got got a hold of the road to e3 week two you posted it on the website you tweeted it out i retweeted that yeah so that's how people on twitter were watching the podcast yeah just saying and i will say this i am going to be encouraging during e3 for eric to tweet more yeah since the thing is is we've talked about this before eric and i we're gonna be splitting off a lot of times at e3 so we'll have different you know photos different this different that different footage and different experiences possibly so i want to make sure that you guys paid for both of us to go so i want to make sure we give you the best coverage possible so i'm really going to encourage you like i i don't care how big your twitter following is because i'll retweet it i'll get it out to the full antenna prime but like be active and and and share this experience as much we're we're gonna do everything we can like people have been asking for more vlogs wait till e3 like i'm just telling you like we're going to be trying to bring we're going to try our best to bring e3 to you um and every way we possibly can outside of being live because it's like impossible for us to be live at e3 like it just can't happen we're live at e3 but we're not live bringing them live we did that remember the zealot form one of the live from e3 and even in that pocket like what we're not live but we're at e3 but actually we're at a hotel room after yeah so i'm not going to use that moniker this time we're live at e3 but i'm gonna say no i was gonna say from the floor of e3 us ourselves are live at e3 but our shows might not we're alive at e3 alive alive it's different alive it doesn't think surviving e3 is an accomplishment yes all right folks thanks for tuning in to episode 65 road to e3 week three be sure to tune in next week because i believe next week is the week four edition that means we're going to be talking about drum roll please the worst drum roll in the world um martin make it a better drum roll be sure to tune in next week because the next week's podcast is going to be about our predictions and expectations for games from third party companies coming to the switch that might be announced like ubisoft press conference ea's press conference with asda etc etc etc 2k all that stuff we're gonna dive deep dive into that week five is going to be all about the other things going on that aren't nintendo e3 because believe it or not as much as we only care about nintendo there's more going on and we care about more than just nintendo so we're going to be talking about sony and the microsoft's and all of the games that probably are not coming to switch and all of our expectations for that stuff what we're excited about we're looking forward to obviously this is probably where madden's gonna come up a lot mad mad mad mad mad mad task force baseball task force baseball got it in yeah obligatory mention and then uh the week six is probably what you guys have been waiting for over a year for the e3 betting special you mean the one the eric losing special because and remember i'm undefeated in betting specials i'm not undefeated in every bet but every betting special i did lose a one-on-one gaming bet against eric yes and ultimately i'm so far the only one to throw up for my bet yes so eric's got me on that i do have an iron stomach to be fair i know which means i need to find what's gonna crack it i thought the pickle juice and may or would i do too but maybe if it was an actual ghost pepper like it was supposed to be no i still don't think that would have i don't know it might have it might not have jammed well with that pickle juice i just i really don't think it would have managed i i don't know maybe i got a contact shawn evans from hot ones to get a straight up pepper x like the hottest pepper that's ever existed in the world literally created by man as a breed you're going mm i'm going i don't care how iron your stomach is yeah no one has survived a straight up eating of peppery of course there's not many videos of it because they don't sell it yeah you can only get it in their hot sauce which obviously is other things mixed in but anyways folks thanks for tuning in we will catch you next week on road to e3 week four week four week four we yeah week four yeah it's just funny road three week four four right three four yeah one why not bye bye worse than they never right all right awesome thank you for x5j for stepping in man yeah no problem i know it ran probably a little longer than you wanted no i was available to midnight so this is fine okay yeah that's right i forget it's we're in the same time zone so yeah we're not far i always forget that we're in the same time zone are we stopped are we stopped i thought i hit oh i need to stop mine yeah start to stop and already started oops