 Good morning. Welcome to our workshop this morning. My name is Tony Garcia. I am a member of the Tier 1 Steering Committee, also a board member of the Montevista Historical Association, and also a member of the newly formed City's IDZ Task Force Committee. We got some housekeeping notes here. We have coffee and cookies in the kitchen, and of course the bathrooms are located in the back of the room. And please make sure you have signed in indicating your neighborhood association and the district that you live in. Also, when you participate in other events other than Tier 1, we ask that you sign in with both your neighborhood association as well as your affiliation with the Tier 1 neighborhood coalition. We have a couple of additional announcements. As we have done in previous meetings, we are asking for donations. We are launching our new Tier 1 website, as well as a social media campaign very soon, so any donation would help in defraining some of the costs. Tier 1 would like to thank Janie Barreta and the LIFT Fund staff for their generosity and hosting our meeting, especially on a Saturday morning. Also, we would like to introduce a couple of individuals that are in attendance. First of all, we would like to start out with Ms. Melissa Ramirez, Assistant Director of Development Services Department, who will be saying a few words before we start our presentation. We have Tony Phelps, Internal Policy Administrator from Development Services Department as well. We have Chrissy McLean from the District 1 office in the back room. And then we have George de la Garza, an architect who is also a member of the IDZ Task Force Committee. Finally, we are seeking volunteers for the Tier 1 steering committee, especially from our Westside neighborhoods. Weapons and representation of our neighborhood areas is key to a transparent dialogue. We meet on a monthly basis to discuss potential solutions to neighborhood issues and plan programs which promote our mission statement. Our mission statement being that the Tier 1 neighborhood coalition is a group of San Antonio neighborhoods inside Loop 410, organized to advocate and work for appropriate development, as well as other important issues that affect our communities. Our mission is to promote communication, cooperation, education, and support among our neighborhoods. Today's event is about education and the opportunity to voice your opinion on a matter that affects your neighborhood. The current infill development zoning IDZ has been very problematic for inner city neighborhoods. In many areas of our city, IDZ has been received with mixed reviews. Mostly welcomed by developers and mostly vilified by neighborhoods who have experienced the residual effects after the development has been completed. We won't forget about the past, but today's workshop is about the future. The future of the new IDZ draft proposals that can be further shaped by neighborhood involvement, your involvement. So this morning, we ask that you focus on the presentation, listen, learn, ask questions, express concerns, and submit any recommendations for changes this morning or in the near future as these proposals go further in the review process. Without further delay, I would like to present Melissa Rodriguez, Karen Hernandez, Development Services Administrator, and Logan Sparrow, Principal Planner, both from the City's Development Services Department. Thank you. Melissa. Thank you. I appreciate it, Tony. This is my team is here. I know many of you are on the Task Force for IDZ. Many of you have been on the Task Force with them on these regulations. Do I need that? Yes. Okay. Again, I am Melissa Ramirez. I'm the Assistant Director for Development Services Department, Land Development. So thank you for your time and effort that you spend with us on our Task Force. Today, Logan and Catherine will be going over Cat, as many of you know, informal settings. I call her Catherine. But she will be going over the IDZ amendments that we're talking about that I know many of you have worked hard to participate in. And if you have any questions, please feel free to answer that. I also brought Tony Feltz along with us. He is our interim policy administrator. He has been helping us with the short-term rental. I do not want to take away from your agenda today, but at the end of this, if you have any questions on that, we're here to help you understand where we're at in the process and where we're going. So thank you very much. I'm going to turn it over to Cat. Good morning. Good morning. This is actually going to be our first general public meeting to introduce the revisions that have been put forward by the Task Force. In the slide, I'm getting a little bit of feedback. In the slide, we'll also feature who the Task Force members were so you can see those members of your community that took part in the revisions and came up with what we're doing to kind of fix IDZ as well as some other options for development. Okay. So again, we'll go over what we got here. We'll go over the new version. We've created three different options to address the different types of projects that we have seen since IDZ was created in 2001. We'll go over the new options called R1 and R2, and I'll go into detail about that. Our mixed use district is our current MXT district is a current zoning district in our Unified Development Code, and we've done some proposed revisions to try to fix that to give mixed, large mixed use scale projects another opportunity to utilize a zoning district that already exists instead of IDZ. And then we'll talk a little bit about the land use categories that the Planning Department has been working on and how these new districts fit in with that. And then at the end, we'll have time for questions. So last year, Council members from Council Districts 1 and 7 did a CCR for Development Services staff to review our IDZ and make sure that it maintains that neighborhood compatibility when utilized and approved by City Council. Because again, there were a lot of concerns related to the current regulations or lack of regulations in IDZ that were not sensitive to the neighborhood. So our task force that we put together was a mixture of those that utilize IDZ for projects and the communities that have experienced a lot of IDZ rezonings. So from our development community, from Pape Dawson, which is Tom Carter, Alamo Architects, Irby Hightower, I'm sure you know Jim Bailey who's been part of the Housing Task Force, the Mayor's Housing Task Force, Irby and Jim worked together. We actually asked Jim to participate but because he got pulled to the Housing Task Force, he asked Irby to step in. James McKnight from Brandon Ortiz. They are a lobbyist, also representative for zoning cases that have represented clients utilizing IDZ. John Cooley from Terremark. Terremark Homes has quite a few IDZ projects, especially in the Dignity Hill area. So they were part of that process as well. Russell Yeager from Big Red Dog, Frank Burney. Frank Patch... I'm always going to slaughter his name. Packachewski, I think it is. We have Ben Fairbank from Tobin Hill, he's here. Celso Gonzalez from Lavaca Neighborhood Association. She has since stepped off as president and someone else has stepped in on her place. Tony Garcia, of course, from Montevista. Nick Ravard from Dignity Hill. Teresa Banias, who's here too. She was also part of our Task Force. Susan Powers, Lone Star. George De La Garza, he's here, there he is. And of course, Kristen McCain was part of that process because D1 helped to sponsor that CCR. So just to kind of highlight what those revisions to IDZ captured, we came out of this process with three big things, three big takeaways for IDZ. More site plan requirements. They're similar to our conditional use and specific use authorizations. The problem that had existed with IDZ projects was the lack of site plan requirements. So you don't know what you're going to get in the end. All you saw on the site plan were three things that were required. Where your streets are, where your driveways are proposed and the uses that would be required. But you didn't know where the building was going to get situated. You didn't know where the parking was going to be situated if they were going to provide parking. You didn't know where your buffers were going to be. You didn't know if there were going to be any fencing options that were going to be there. So we, with the Task Force, are proposing now site plan requirements, again similar to what we have in our very detailed, in our conditional use and specific use authorization processes. We now also have a maximum height for our two new districts, IDZ 1 and IDZ 2, depending upon the density. Feel like I need to lower this, maybe? Okay. And then we also had side perimeter setbacks. Currently IDZ, the only setback that it has is Front, which is a median of the block face. Rear, which is five feet and no side setbacks. However, Fire Code requires that there be a setback, a minimum setback of five feet. So the projects were doing five feet towards the end anyway. So now we have required perimeter setbacks. And lastly, we also are now introducing more minimum parking requirements. Again, allowing you to relax some of the minimum parking requirements by 50% for your larger, the medium intensity and high intensity projects, but still requiring parking now, because that was a big issue and concern that was discussed. So IDZ 1, we'll go over some of the accomplishments or some of the new standards that we are introducing. IDZ 1 is going to be called our low intensity. So IDZ 1 is going to be utilized for the least dense type projects and the least amount of commercial type services being offered. So these are going to be the ones that we're going to encourage, right adjacent to your neighborhood, or if it's just a single family home or duplex home within the neighborhood, especially if you have a substandard lot that doesn't meet your typical conventional zoning district requirements. So the residential uses, there's a limitation of up to 18 units per acre. Non-residential uses can be introduced for IDZ 1 if you're doing sort of like a mixed use project, but the most intense type of uses that you would be allowed to request would be uses permitted in C1 or 01. So 01 is your typical office district and C1 is your lightest commercial district. So you'll have small scale restaurants. You'll have dry cleaning operation, pickup operations, haircut places. C1 has a building square footage limitation of 5,000 square feet. So these are for your small commercial lots. So that's why the intensity, it only goes up to C1 for IDZ 1. There is that requirement for site plan. Again, as I talked about earlier, it's going to be consistent with their conditional use and specific use authorization requirements. We are building into the ordinance that the site plan requirement would be waived if you're just doing a single-family home. We recognize that we get a lot of mom-and-pop applicants that come in. All they want to do is just build their home on a small lot. So they come in, they request to do either a conditional use, and now they have to come up with a site plan requirement. Or if they come in, they request IDZ. Well, there's barely a site plan requirement, but this would help to accommodate you, especially if it's just a single-family home. As long as you maintain the minimum setbacks that would be required now with this revision, then you really don't need to know exactly where that home is going to be placed because it's going to be typical to the rest of the block. There also is a height limitation now introduced into IDZ 1 of 2.5 stories, 35 feet. This is consistent with all of our single-family residential districts, R4, R5, R6, even our neighborhood preservation districts. So all of the single-family residential districts have this height limitation. We also are maintaining the front setback within 10% of the block face median. So that way it gives them a little bit of flexibility of 10%, but it still maintains that block face that has already been established in those older neighborhoods. There are still four projects that maybe they're going to do two, three. Again, you get up to 18 units per acre. No interior site setbacks for the residential interior lot. So if you have a project, you can go as close as you can, as long as you maintain fire code requirements. But for the perimeter, the perimeter means that it's on the outside of the project area adjacent to somebody else's property. That side setback requirement will be required to have a five-foot setback. So that way we maintain that distance separation between the project and the next-door neighbor. And then, of course, we're still maintaining the rear setback of five feet. IDZ-1 will still wave the minimum off-street parking requirements because, again, IDZ-1 is your least intense IDZ project. IDZ-1, here's an example of what site plan requirements that we would be getting now. So again, if the applicant seeks to build a duplex, this example shows that site plan to show where the structure is. Logan, if you want to kind of point out the features since you're closest, and that way they can see what is shown on this site plan. Yeah, sure. So again, this is the same sort of site plan that we've required for years now whenever an applicant requests a conditional or a specific use request. So unlike the current IDZ regulations where you only have to show the ingress, egress, location of uses and streets, in this example, you would have to list the dimensions of the building, the height of the building, what its setbacks are going to be. So with this type of site plan, when the applicant is working with the neighborhood, they're reaching out. The neighborhood has a much better idea of what is proposed to be built on that lot versus the IDZ site plan that's required today. So now we'll go into IDZ2. IDZ2 is now your medium intensity type of project. So in this case, for residential uses, you'll get up to 50 units per acre. The non-residential uses that you can do on this type of request, again, if you're doing a mixed use project, would be uses as intense as C2, also known as more or less our retail type commercial district, and 01.5, which is higher height but still a professional office type district. Again, the requirement for site plan is still the same. So you still have to do a site plan. The height now is limited, gives you a little bit more flexibility to go higher, but it is limited to four stories. In addition, you'll also have to show your front setback. So part of this process now will introduce not only the site plan, but you're also going to have to do a ground plan comparison form, and then Logan will go into that in the next slide. So again, it's just additional requirements as you get more intense with IDZ. There's still no interior side setbacks, but still you have to maintain that perimeter side setback of five feet. You still have your rear setback of five feet, and now we're introducing parking requirements. You'll still have to meet 50% of the minimum parking requirements for a project. So here is that example, and Logan can go into that. Sure. So one of the concerns we had for members of the Task Force, and we'd heard it from members of the community as well, is we'd like to have a better idea of the context of the project compared to the community that it's going to be built in. So we had certain Task Force members. They tracked down a similar form that the city of Denver uses. So if you have a proposed infill project, we want you to list, you know, of course, the addresses, and what is the setback to the structure, the setback to the front porch if you're going to have one. The side setbacks and the building height compared to the same standards of the properties surrounding it. So again, this is, I went ahead and I filled this one in as an example. So we have a proposed infill project with a 10-foot front setback, five-foot side setbacks, and it's going to be 30 feet tall is what they're proposing. But in this example, the properties at D and E are 20 and 19 feet tall. So that helps the neighborhood. That helps neighborhood associations, developers, and the council office say, you know, if the properties to either side of it are 19, 20 feet tall, is it really appropriate that this one is going to be 30 feet tall? Would 25 or would 20 be more appropriate? So it's just more information for the community so that they can be more involved, have a better idea of what that property is going to look like when it's developed. And as Kat mentioned with IDZ-2, they're required to fill this out in addition to the same site plan requirement that you're required to fill out for IDZ-1. So the more you ask for, the more you have to provide. All right, so now we're going to go into IDZ-3. IDZ-3 will be our most intense or the high-intensity district that is being proposed. So the residential density is not capped in this category. However, you have to state it in the ordinance. As we do today, IDZ with multifamily use is not to exceed 65 units per acre. That would be the same type of requirement that we would do. So that way they're limited in that approval process based on what's approved as part of the ordinance. Non-residential uses can be introduced as a mixed use project. So now you can go up to C3, which is our most intense commercial district. O2, which is our highest office district. It's most intense because it has unlimited height. And I won your Light Industrial District. So this allows you to do those type of uses with IDZ. You still have that requirement to submit a site plan. In addition, you will also have the requirement in IDZ-2 to have that ground plan comparison form. And now you'll also have to do a 3D massing model. And Logan will go into that in the next slide. The height is not limited in this type of category, but however it must be shown on the site plan that comparison form in the massing model and that will be approved as part of the ordinance and that will be their limitation based on that approval. Front setback has to be shown on that as well. So whatever that front setback is stated and approved as part of that site plan, that's the most that they get. No interior side setbacks for the project, but you still have to maintain that five foot perimeter side setback, rear setback of five feet. And again, you only get to wave up to 50% of the minimum parking requirements. And here's that massing model. So in addition to the site plan requirement and the ground plan comparison form that we discussed previously, we had a couple folks say, you know, if you're seeking IDZ3, you're probably talking about a relatively dense, it's a pretty intense project. It's got C3 commercial uses. So we had several folks propose a 3D massing model and they were very specific and the ordinance has written such that this model, unlike this one, doesn't have to show all this specific architectural details. So in this model, we're not trying to tie the developer to, you know, exactly, you know, those sort of windows and the door and all that. It's really think of rectangles, right? So in blue is what's proposed and what this is for is to get a better understanding of, in white, the community around it. What is the project going to look like in its massing effect in the community in which it's going to be placed? So part of the process, some of the discussion related to IDZ was that IDZ was utilized for a lot of the very small lots that didn't meet the minimum a lot area requirements. So our residential districts start with R3. You have to have a minimum of 3,000 square feet. We have a lot of lots in the inner city that do not meet 3,000 square feet. So they were requesting IDZ because IDZ only requires 1,250 square feet for a detached single family home. That's why they were coming in for IDZ for a single family home because they weren't able to build a home on a normally zoned R4, R5, or R6 lots. And just for your reference, the numbers in those residential districts 3, 4, 5, and 6 means a square foot requirement. So 3 is 3,000, 4 is 4,000, 5 is 5,000, and 6 is 6,000. Those are the square footage requirements for each type of lot in order for it to be developed as a single family home. So again, these projects or these single family homes could meet that minimum requirement. So they were requesting IDZ because that's the only option out there. So the discussion with the task force was well maybe we need to have another option that they could request that's more conventional, more traditional like our R3, R4, R5, and R6. So we came up with R1 and R2. So the R1 and R2 would be available throughout the city because we recognize that there might be some developments that would be good in our regional centers that are outside of 410. In case I didn't mention it earlier, IDZ is only available inside Loop 410 because it's called the infill development zone. That's where our infill areas are. So we came up with the R2 and R1 version. R2 means again, the 2 means 2,000 square foot minimum lot size requirement. You will have a front setback of 10 feet, side setback of 5, rear setback of 5. Your maximum height you're limited to is 3 stories 35 feet, which is similar to our residential mixed districts, our RM4, RM5, and RM6. And your maximum lot coverage basically is 50%. R1, now you can go a little bit less with square footage. Minimum lot size is 1250 square feet similar to IDZ. This is only a little different. I know one family 2, 3, 4, 5, and 6 isn't even number, but we want it to be consistent with our lowest or, yeah, IDZ which is already 1250. Again front setback 10 feet, side setback 5, rear 5, maximum height, 3 stories 35 feet, and their maximum lot coverage is 45%. And these would be a traditional conventional zoning district that you'll find in our lot and building specifications table in UDC if approved by council. Just another option instead of requesting IDZ in the middle of a block. So as we went further to talk about large scale mixed use projects that have been utilizing IDZ especially within loop 410 because that was the only availability to do these large scale mixed use projects like for example the Perl. Perl's owned IDZ. IDZ was the only option that would fit, or that would work for that type of development because our other mixed use development districts did not have the flexibility that IDZ had. So they came up with, we discussed what do we need to do, what do we need to fix what we have in order to have that available option instead of requesting IDZ. Because again, IDZ is limited within 410, so you can't utilize IDZ outside of 410. And the MXD was not being utilized a lot outside of 410. So the task force looked at our current MXD district and created some revisions to it that would fix that district. So the mixed use development now requires a site plan, but one of the new things that we introduced, because again the mixed use district site plan requirement, you would show where your uses are going. Now you can show your height. The height requirement allows through the approval process through that negotiation process allows council to place limitations on the height based on those discussions with the neighborhood. So now that you put the height on the site plan now you can limit the site plan limit the height on the site plan through that approval process, because right now the height's not shown on MXD. You must provide at least a 5 foot rear setback. However, that setback will grow if you are adjacent to single family residential uses. So it's extended to at least 25 feet away where the non-residential use is adjacent to a single family use. And then we also introduced some height restrictions where if it was within 50 feet of a single family home, they were limited to the same height restriction that that single family home has. So that way it's scaled appropriately adjacent to a single family home. So here's an example of the site plan for MXD. So this is a pretty typical mixed use development site plan. So the difference that we would have as part of our ordinance is not only would you have to show in blue is going to be office space, yellow is going to be multifamily, but you would, as Kat mentioned, have to have corresponding height. So obviously in this situation we kind of have all this green belt over here, but if you had a single family some division next door, they'd have to say, I want this to be these buildings on the side to be 50 feet tall, and that's when through part of the association and working between developer and neighborhood association and commission and council they could say, well, you know, we're all right with the plan, but you know, we'd like to see these buildings be a little shorter, please indicate that. And that way again, as she mentioned, you're tied to it as part of the zoning. So it gives the neighborhoods a little more voice in a process when we're working with our development community to make sure that we have projects that fit. So now we'll talk a little bit about the land use category. So as you know, we're going to be updating the land use categories that would be approved by council, I think in the next month. It requires a UDC amendment because our land use categories are built into our definitions of appendix A of chapter 35. And these new categories are going to be utilized for all the new plans that they're working on as part of SA tomorrow. So we know that the land use categories are going to be approved by council first. Then we're we still have the steps to go through the public hearing process and the adoption of these new districts and the new versions of IDZ one, two and three. So once we do that, then we'll coordinate with our planning department to do what we call a RID. We'll fit the new districts into the new land use categories sort of like an interpretation. Again, what we're going to do is we're going to look at the text of those land use categories because if you read the text of the new land use categories, they have a density limitation. They have an intensity limitation. And so our new districts will correspond with that. So if the density limitation is 18 units per acre, IDZ one would be consistent with that. If the density limitation is 50, IDZ two would be consistent with that. So it's just going to depend on what the text says for those new land use categories and then we'll fit them in. So I just wanted to touch on that. Again, just focus on the text for those. Focus on the limitate the intensity limitations, the density limitations and that's where you'll find where these new districts would be introduced to if approved by council. So our timeline moving forward, we do have another community meeting on Monday to do the same thing that we're doing today. We're going to present the same presentation that we're doing today on Monday. So those that couldn't come today who want to come on Monday we welcome that. So we'll have two community meetings to introduce these new locations. One stop center in our boardroom and hopefully our board of adjustment meeting will be over before that. It'll be at 6.30. So then we also go to TAC on June 29. TAC is our technical advisory committee from our planning commission. TAC has to review all UDC amendments before moving forward through the commission approval process and council approval process. Following TAC we'll go to planning commission then we'll follow up with zoning commission in August and by August, September because remember council's on a break for the budget development process. August, September then we'll go to the comprehensive planning committee which is a subcommittee of the city council and then city council for full consideration. All right. Well that's pretty much it. Do we have any questions? Yes ma'am. Do you want to give, do you need the mic for the questions so you can record them? Oh. Okay, I can speak louder. But you need it for the Yeah. Yeah. Hold the bottle. It should be on already. Hello. Okay. Okay, I got it right. Logan you mentioned at one juncture in this that this is where the neighborhood associations would have a place to negotiate. So so neighborhood so neighborhood associations then would have to be organized and super proactive to be able to negotiate. And so and then the planning commission and the zoning commission aren't necessarily, they don't necessarily have the backs of those neighborhood associations because so many of them just go by what the rules are and justify it that way. So where do you, where do you see this? I mean is your staff going to be informing the applicants about the neighborhood association or informing them that they need to meet with the neighborhood association or and how will that be handled? Sure, so okay. Initially whenever we have an applicant come into our department and they express interest in trying to reason a property you know we're looking at various things we're looking at you know what is the future land use plan you know what is a reasonable request one of the other things we're always looking at is the neighborhood association. We always recommend that our applicants reach out to a neighborhood association. Now as far as the neighborhood association getting involved in that process one of the concerns that we had or one of the concerns that we heard from neighborhoods is the way IDZ is written today it doesn't offer much of there's nothing to really hold a developer's feet to the fire so to speak so they could come in and say well here's a conceptual rendering and all that but there was nothing in a site plan that really tied them to what they were saying. And that led not only that was frustrating for neighborhoods but it was also frustrating for developers because you had developers that had a very sincere intent to develop exactly what they were communicating but there was this apprehension you know is it really going to look like what it's going to look like. So what we envision with this process with more detailed site plans with massing models with comparison forms is it gives the teeth to the ordinance it says that if this is what's approved that is what they are going to be tied to so what we envision as part of the negotiation so to speak is now you have something concrete that you really can say you know I don't know if 35 feet is appropriate or we'd be more comfortable with 25 feet and you know 25 feet would be what they're capped at as part of the ordinance so it offers that predictability. And then if I can chime in our rezoning process requires notification state law and our UDC require notification to property owners within 200 feet and then our UDC we also notified neighborhood associations that are registered with the city within 200 feet of that project so they'll get a notification early on in that process. We also have a we post our reports online so if you our constant contact is our application right now that we utilize so where you can sign up to receive notifications we have what's called a tentative zoning report that we post which is about a week after the deadline for zoning cases and so you're able to go online download that report and see zoning cases that have been applied for and that's well in advance of the notification that any property owner or neighborhood association would receive. So on the DSD website and we'll show you that it's there's a little icon that says email so the software application that we utilize is constant contact. E news thank you. Oh yes anyone has access to it's a PDF report. Yes ma'am. So I like the changes but on for example IDZ one so it goes up to 18 and so we have an acre of land so when we get the site plan and I know there's no parking requested do you look at the site plan to see if there's any place to park you know we're in a very tiny neighborhood from River Road so even though it doesn't request it if you're building something new on an acre of land and there's really no street parking what should we do will you take that in consideration when you're evaluating that? Well so since the requirement is not there to provide parking we wouldn't look to see if they have room to park however if they show in their site plan that they are going to park then they have to meet our minimum parking requirements I would say 90 to 95 percent of our projects that come in park park it because they can't market it without it maybe in the downtown area or close to the downtown area where IDZ is using it's not zone D would that be more appropriate because then you have maybe parking garage or shared parking structures but many of the rezoning requests do meet the minimal parking requirements because they can't market it without the parking Okay in the second one little question just a technicality we usually describe 35 feet by 2.5 stories and if you flip around sometimes you have three stories for 35 feet are you going to be consistent with 2.5 and 35 feet or do you PAMS them? Well I mean again this is their option 2.5 stories they can do 2.5 stories it's just you cannot exceed 35 feet in height that's what the 35 feet reference is Right you just change language in your slides sometimes you have 3 stories Oh because that is the requirement so for IDZ-1 it's only 2.5 stories so think of your 2 story with a dorm or window on the top so that's 2.5 stories that is their limitation for the R1 and R2 it is 3 stories it is 3 stories but still capped at 35 feet Mr. Michael Shannon has walked in he's our director of development services department welcome there is no exit though let me ask a question because you're on slide number IDC the city's definition of median block face front setback what does that actually mean? because we know that setback has always been an issue sure so when we're talking about the block face setback so let's say you have grid street infrastructure so we're going to be looking at all the homes on that street in just that block on just that side of the street so yeah and I'll walk over here so let's pretend this street had only 3 homes on it so we would be averaging you'd take the front setback of again assuming this is a vacant lot you'd be looking at just the properties on that side of the street not the other ones on the other side in between 2 other streets so just to keep math simple if you had a 10 foot and a 10 foot front setback of course the median would be 10 meaning that if your IDZ1 had to be within 10% you could have between a 9 and 11 foot front setback and again as Kat mentioned the idea there is that you give some flexibility to the development but it's not giving so much flexibility that it detracts from the neighborhood I know we had one question waiting up here I promise to get to you next okay we had an incident in Beacon Hill where development services determined that the front overhang of the porch was the setback not the actual building so what constitutes a setback so the setback is going to be to the front wall of the home or the post whichever comes first so if you think of it in terms of a carport if the carport is in front of the front wall of the home the front plane that's where their setback starts if you will you have a minimum setback that you have to meet from your lot line to whatever that is 20 feet or 10 feet and if your post is 5 feet from that you still have about 5 feet to play with so it's the front wall of the home what you're referring to is that some of our NCDs had been written to where you do sort of like a elevation view and the elevation view would not capture to the front wall the overhang of that front porch which eventually created this creep of setbacks going further and further because your overhang continues to grow or get closer to the street so as we've been modifying our neighborhood conservation districts we've been recognizing that and defining that it needs to meet the front wall of the setback so that would be what we would utilize for this process it's the front wall or the post whichever is closer we have a question I'll finish up well she's had her hand up for a long time we'll have to take numbers here thank you I would like to add a little something to what this lady had to say about the the parking in the I'm most familiar with King William and Lavaca a good number of those homes do not even have a driveway they certainly don't have a garage that means that the owners of the homes the only parking places they have is on the streets well if you authorize these people to only have half the parking that they might need for their business or their activity you put another burden again on the neighborhood because we not only have our own cars to contend with but we have many many downtown employees that come and park on our streets in our case the first five streets or so we've had to restrict parking to one side of the street because emergency vehicles cannot get through I mean 50% is for us that's very little when we that's our only parking place the last thing I wanted to ask about is when I hear that up to 18 units is considered low that's like living next door to a miniature a mini motel it just ruins several decades of effort that has gone on to build neighborhoods into something beautiful I just cannot imagine living next door to a motel but that's what that adds up to in my mind so regarding 18 units an acre because I understand the 18 number sounds pretty high so I mean IDZ this is our infill development zone and it is often times applied to parcels that for one reason or another it is difficult or impossible to develop on with a conventional zoning district so it relaxes setbacks it reduces parking if you were to take a 6,000 square foot lot a typical residential single family sized lot it's about 6,000 square feet if you were to permit 18 units an acre that allows at most a duplex so we're not talking about putting 18 units on every single lot we're 18 units an acre so again it's proportionate to the size of the lot that lot next door to you that's been vacant if it gets IDZ one you're talking at most two not 18 I just want to make sure that's communicated and then just to kind of chime in 18 units per acre is similar to our multi family district our lowest multifamily district least intense one which is MF 18 it is it's a standard across the planning profession that 18 units per acre is a very low intense density if you will as you progress higher then you'll get to MF 25 MF 33 MF 40 MF 50 and MF 65 those are more intense but MF 18 is your least intense but these right it's going to depend on the size of the lot and you're right about the parking there's a lot of older neighborhoods that were built before we had minimum parking requirements and most of those are likely in historic neighborhoods so you'll also have that added view process if an IDZ project is proposed in a historic district one of the requirements that they'll have to go through is go to HDRC for conceptual approval first of their project before proceeding through the rezoning process so that way the neighborhood has another opportunity to see how it's going to look how it's going to be parked but again it's going to be sensitive to the character of that historic neighborhood as well we have a question here I just wanted to I worked on the IDZ task force with Catherine and Locan and I wanted to express it right here I'm with Monticello and the Jefferson neighborhood organization also I helped work the Jefferson NCD so we developed that and I think one of the things that when I was in the meeting or in the task force meeting I found that there was frustration in the neighborhood and the developer's standpoint that they could not take a look at some of these projects early on and I think that's what this is addressing is that we can get a look the neighborhood can get a look we can get the rules down at the beginning and things don't slip through the cracks by being identified later on in the process so that was very important but one of the things I wanted to mention we did talk about the fact that a lot of the NCDs especially because they have rules and they don't go through the store was how we can get the neighborhood involved in this site plan process now on the initial how they know what they're looking at because I know even developing our NCD standards most of the people in our district are not really they don't feel capable of using our rules so one of the things that we talked about and I don't know where we settled with this is that maybe we could get the city to do some training with the neighborhoods and the NCDs to allow them to review these plans in the early on stages yes, once adopted if adopted by council there will be an education effort sort of like a road show if you will to those neighborhoods especially early on in the process in utilizing that welcome we ask that you invite us to your neighborhood association meetings if you're going to talk about a project that's going to be utilizing these new concepts so we can help facilitate those technical questions and then also we'll probably feature this as a new workshop in our DSE academy as well so we have a monthly education seminar if you will and so once adopted we'll feature that as part of that so that way all of the neighborhoods can come and probably get something similar to this presentation and then go into a little bit more detail my name is Tammy I recently had the pleasure of working with my neighbors updating our altavista neighborhood association standards was a very positive process interested in what's going on here today my question is does the IDZ override the NCD requirements and number two can something be added to the developer end of things I really liked what you had to say Mr. Jefferson Monticello over there about getting us involved earlier in the developer process because that's an expensive it can be very frustrating when all of a sudden it's perceived that they're just jumping on us they don't want improvement they don't want progress no that's not it if we could just perhaps add something that lets the developer know that contacting the neighborhood association and presenting to the neighborhood association early alleviates some roadblocks for everyone I'll take the answer thank you so the first question has to do with the overlay district standards so Alta Vista is a neighborhood conservation district similar to Beacon Hill neighborhood conservation district NCDs are similar to historic districts it's an overlay district that has design requirements those overlay districts will supersede any of the setback development standards that are within this IDZ or the R1 R2 districts so if the minimum front setback for R1 is 10 feet and if they have a minimum setback in an NCD of 20 feet they have to comply with the 20 feet so the NCDs and the historic districts supersede the standards of the IDZ because IDZ is your base district that's basically going to tell you what your uses are but it also gives you the minimum development standards if you are not within an overlay district so hopefully the answer is that first part of the question and the second part is again as Logan mentioned earlier we highly encourage our applicants when they come in to rezone to meet with the neighborhood association as well as the property owners that are going to be notified early on in that process and we let them know that if they don't they run the risk of having their case continued by zoning commission which adds time to their project and as we know time is money so that's why we highly encourage them to meet early and again if you're not signed up to receive those email notifications sign up on constant context so you can receive that because you'll get notification early on that cases have been filed and you're able to go to that PDF report and look to see what street, what block, what district, and what the proposed use is. Follow up Tammy? A lot of us do get those emails during this week into the program. We do get those emails but that again places the burden on the neighborhood association which are volunteer and they are often chasing after their lives and it's really hard for us to chase after everything that comes across. Why not just place the burden back on the developer by saying, not saying we strongly suggest but saying this is part of your process please get in touch with the neighborhood association. That would be a policy decision that would have to be applied to all zoning districts that only council could make that policy decision on. Right now we tell them we highly encourage and then our zoning commissioners who are part of this process too utilize that as you haven't met with the neighborhood. Their neighborhood association meeting is next week, I want you to meet with the neighborhood so I'm going to motion for a continuance and there you go. That's two weeks added or maybe a month added to their process. That's why we tell them right when they apply or right when they're coming in and they haven't applied yet so I'm going to give them some information and let them know, contact them first. So again policy decision that council would have to make. I would like to piggyback on the comments, the parking comments that the King William LeBaca woman made and acknowledge that it is a serious, serious challenge and I would encourage you to somehow put some conditions, criteria or build on to your easy one especially to address this. As you say there is minimum off-street parkings can be waived. Well when a case goes let's use the example, the 6,000 square feet two duplexes or one duplex chances are it's a two bedroom or something. It goes HDRC for approval first and then they look at appropriateness. Fact is if the applicant does not include parking for that they don't review it. If you put a covered parking, a structure then they review it and they will admit that parking is not within their purview. It's not in this purview so because it's not there because it's space not a place, it disappears but in reality that two bedroom duplex will have minimum four cars. So I think it would be important to somehow, if you do have a category that has a waiver is there a trigger or something that says we have researched in terms of via rideshare we have done a count on the street of existing parking spaces. I know some applicants in HDRC will show we did a traffic count real casual thing and show oh there's plenty of space and there needs to be something that is accountable that shows the actual street right of way use in a particular neighborhood. King William Levaca will be very different than Monticello, will be different than Dignoity Hill so it does need to be pretty closely considered. That would be, and I have one other question how does the city or DSD define stories? I think it's the story and Mike can probably help me out here. I'll just give it to Mike. Right? Alright, good morning everybody. So I'll take that the definition of stories is the same definition that pretty much every city uses in terms of the building and development code. So a story is a floor and a roof. So that's it. And then when we talk about number of stories if any part of that is below ground meaning you have a sloped lot there is a calculation that you will do utilizing what's called the average ground plane or average grade plane. Really what that means without going through a lot of diagrams is if most of that I come from the northeast we had basements right? So as many of you probably know that if most of that lowest story is below ground meaning average grade plane and all that stuff then that would be called an underground story and you would start with the next story to go up in terms of stories above grade plane. We also have the definition of half story I believe or half and then that's a square footage calculation of if it's the floor area is half of that footprint of the building. So the simple answer is that we follow the international building code the development codes that everybody else does and we can actually provide you some diagrams of how to do that. The joke is that I actually got up and drew that at one and it was terrible drawing but but again that standard is kind of nationwide. Do you want me to measure how high it is? Sure and I'll mention height too so that comes up a lot the maximum height of a building so if you have a flat roof that's pretty easy right? Something like this for example we just measure to the roof but when you have a peaked roof so you take just a sloped roof you take the average height from the peak to the edge you take that average elevation and that will be your building height and again that follows the international and national building codes that we've adopted locally here because we wanted to be consistent and that's a national issue right? And it's not just for zoning regulations but it's also for building code and fire code safety regulations as well so it's all matched up. We can provide you some further explanation on that to this group but I think we have it on our website too but we can get that out to you because that's key to a lot of this discussion that we're talking about of course. Who's got the mic? Chrissy. Of course I work for District 1 most of you know that but I also live downtown so I'm your neighbor and I wanted to talk a little bit about the parking requirement and how the task force got to that conversation just because something is not required does not mean it cannot be added to the site plan and so that would be a discussion for the zoning commission for the city council the planning commission to look at that site plan and that ground comparison form and say well wait a minute you know everything around you has parking or doesn't have parking or the streets this wide and it's more appropriate to have parking the reason why we wanted to have a base zoning district that still waives parking is honestly for the restoration of a lot of historic landmarks because we have the Kelso house the Hildebrand house we had the you know the Lermas just down the street from here that we had to rezone IDZ because they didn't have parking and the alternative to that is to pave their lawns which we don't want to do because they didn't have a driveway and I don't have a driveway so I drive around King William and Mission constantly looking for parking when I get home from work and it's exhausting I hear what you're saying and so for those neighborhoods where it's needed and where it's appropriate yes that could be added to the site plan and that would hold them to it because it is on the site plan so I don't know if that helps at all we have a question up front and we have two in the back so and then we have Barber number four Good morning Rose Hill, President of Government Hill I got a question how many feet from the front setback unlike in a commercial area do you have to have and the reason I'm asking that question is because we had an incident at 825 Grayson where the site plan when it came to the Neighbor Association was one way but I guess when they built it it was another way it ended up like almost one and a half feet we measure from the sidewalk which sticks out like some sore thumb so after that's done does the city go back and I know that is there a final check off from inspector to make sure did this developer comply with the requirements as they indicated or the site plan to begin with and how did this change and how did this happen so when that happens it sort of kind of sets a back precedence for the neighborhood for the development because you don't know our is the developer going to change an instance of saying this is a way it's going to be on the site plan because we requested IDZ and now we changed it so who goes back and actually make sure that they are complying with what they're supposed to be doing so there will be minimum setback requirements again the front setback will be dependent on the median block face your rear of five and your side perimeter of five so there is an inspection process one of my staff reviews NCDs as well as the site plan requirements for conditional uses and specific use authorizations at Zeke's release so he goes out there to do one final check to be sure that they are in compliance with that approved site plan if they have a conditional use or specific use authorization and if these new IDZ districts get adopted by council that will be part of his review as well to make sure that they are complying with that inspections are triggered to him throughout the building process so if they need to do a framing inspection he'll be able to go out there along with the building inspector who is going to look at the technical requirements of the framing and then Zeke will look at the requirements for the actual site plan and the distance that they were approved for so there will be an inspection process for this we have a question back here hi I'm Grace Rose Gonzales Keystone neighborhood association and a former zoning commissioner so the reason when I was on zoning and we pushed for this IDZ reconsideration was because of the fact that neighborhoods were not contacted ahead of time especially some of the these neighborhoods would be caught off guard and it wasn't a requirement I really do believe and I know that you're saying well it would have to be a consideration for everything that's coming through but I do believe that on maybe IDZ is a different issue because of the fact that the neighborhoods are so compact so we've talked about all of it I mean Keystone I mean everyone parks on the street because we have small houses and small driveways and all the rest of it I'm not sure if there's any way of making that a tick mark that yes you know you have visited and as Tammy said the owners isn't on the neighborhoods I just think that it's just IDZ is used because of the fact that we want to encourage and it is but we don't want to have negative impact either and so it's a truly a balancing act and the reality is that a lot of these neighborhoods with these parcels that are vacant maybe they don't really need IDZ maybe it's single family dwellings that go back so in the crack because I was part of the crack at that time we really had that whole weed and seed program and things had been flattened out in sections of Government Hill and Gen Whitty in all of these areas so you know with Mayor Garza we really worked at what would be those incentives and I don't know if we need those incentives anymore yes we talked about the notification process yes okay we have a question back here hello my name is Max Woodward with the Uptown Neighborhood Association and Fredericksburg Road Economic Development Committee I'll particularly like coming to these meetings because it upsets me inside when parking plays a central role to the conversation and I'd like to remind you all that cars are a luxury and a convenience that not everyone can afford and so when you're requiring developers to accommodate parking suggesting that you can't market any residential properties without parking so you're not addressing the people who need housing the most and that are suffering the worst in all of this rapid growth so is there any zoning class that allows you to build residential units without accommodating for parking for those people who choose to or are not able to drive cars so our current IDZ district is the one that waves minimum parking requirements IDZ one the lowest intensity 18 units per acre will still wave parking requirements so there can be projects that can still wave the parking requirement and for other types of projects there still is a process that anyone can request to wave the minimum parking requirements without having to rezone IDZ and that's a Board of Adjustment waiver process so you can still go through a process to wave minimum parking requirements thank you I'm Mary Briscoe Cushman and I'd like to expand on what Rose Hill mentioned in regards to the I have two questions if I may in regards to the construction and finding out afterwards you know that oh we blew it in a meet and greet with a particular developer he indicated proudly will just pay the fine I feel that that is an attitude that is prevalent and with that the inspections need to be enforced and if in fact reconstruction is necessary so be it and it is on the developer there is a responsibility to the developer as well as to the neighborhoods also these should these requirements pass in City Council will these requirements be grandfathered into current IDZ situations in which have not broken ground with proper notice and amendments to current IDZ classifications so the first part of your question had to do with the inspection process somebody does builds it may a culpa I'm just gonna go through the process so yes there's still a fine that they'll pay but there still is the requirement to comply so we have the Board of Adjustment we see a lot of these cases where a residential homeowner built a carport without getting a permit and said I'll just pay the fine and then keep going but the fine is not the end of it they still have to comply and they think that once they go to the administrative process to court if you will that they're done they're not done they're not done so they still have to comply and if the Board of Adjustment does not grant them that variance to maintain what they have then they have to come into compliance so if that means reconstruction then they're gonna have to reconstruct it if that means moving the post from the carport further in they're gonna have to move it and so we try to educate them as much as we can the contractors to pull permits but we do recognize that there are people that utilize family members to build something on their property don't get the right permits that they're supposed to maybe they didn't realize they had to get a permit and so but we still have that process that we have to follow and if approved by Board of Adjustment then they're approved but they've gone to the process if not approved then they have to comply it's not the owner the developer it's the same process applies to them too yes yes they want every inch for you know every penny yep so they'll have to comply if they built it without a permit so the second part of her question remind me grandfather okay yes so the current IDZ so projects that were already approved with the current IDZ will still comply with the current IDZ standards these will apply to new IDZ projects coming in that rezone to these new districts I have a question here and then a question in the back and year number three okay yeah right I had two parts of a question also a lot of times what we're finding is that when a building a multi-family building goes up all of a sudden the base goes way up and then starts the stories is that why two and a half stories are 35 feet from the ground like Mike mentioned earlier where that height if they have a larger foundation it's because they have a sloped piece of property well no it's flat well because there's no there's no ordinance about how much fill you can put in to build right now that we'd have to look at that specifically that just usually we see those large foundations because a property is sloped and they need to elevate it but if there's something that's flat and they build a high elevation we'll have to look at that independently and so we should just contact you and the other one is about this project and the project changing one thing that we've learned is to follow the project through permits because yes down at your office things can change that's the one thing that we all think that once you win or lose it's over but the main thing is at least we found is to go meet with the staff which are very good about doing that in your office and find out how it works which because a lot of people don't know and then to follow the permits and it's of course a lot of work but it seems to be a way to do that and you can follow along the permits with our current system our current permit system is Hansen you can create a customer account query certain addresses that you want to keep track of and you'll see all of those permits that are pulled online as we move forward to build a say we're replacing that software system and so that Hansen system will be replaced probably in about two years right now our focus is on our land development areas so we'll have an online system where you can track zoning cases board of adjustment cases or subdivision plat cases all the things related to the horizontal development and then we move forward to the vertical development for build a say question here good morning my name is Amelia Valdez and I am with the historic west side resident association so we're in your kid in town but been in existence for a whole year been doing work on the west side so our passionate people in the west side it's one of our poorest districts along with east the east side we've been working hard with no registration registration because they're denying us application registration there's an overlap on the west side it's real small but there's a dispute so I can't receive you were checking I was wondering no I'm sorry I got buzzed anyway my thought is if I can get registered I'm not receiving any information and there's a policy we make here for us to receive that and that won't be done until October but then there's things that we have to resolve before October is that correct so I can our association can receive any IDZ zoning as a part of registration right so we're now not in the dark because I find my ways to find out things because other association members are nice enough to tell me but there's a couple of points I would like to make real quick and there was a word Logan that you talked about a sincere intent of the developer don't know what that means Rose thank you so much for making your points because sometimes we get notifications the next day and I'm going through the west side just trying to get my folks together and then you talked about conversations of our neighborhoods it's always building up building up it's always been a thing for us in the neighborhood because some of our historic homes get to be not restored but they get you know before we know it there's something going on on the west side and we don't get it noted not notification anyway so I come here because it's very important that we get registered notified first of all and we won't be able to do that for a while now we continue to do the work we continue to fight I appreciate all the associates brothers and sisters that are here that are here to help out but we're in need we're in desperately right now on the west side and I'm very sincere about it because I've been born and raised in the west side and why don't I'm doing the work there and we need help thank you can't complain about here let's make it easier for you to track down some of this information I understand you're trying to register a new neighborhood association I assume you're working with the planning department for that but as far as communications from our department are concerned so upcoming zoning cases this meeting our sorry our meeting on Monday night was communicated through constant contact right from our home page you can sign up and you can check I want to be notified of various types of applications and that way every week for two weeks send those reports out it goes straight to your email inbox so that way you don't have to do all this legwork we'll do it for you I'm doing all that my thing is the registration part and the denial of us getting some because some of our folks don't have some of our folks don't have the protective goal on computer I do not have that access we let's try to address that offline we understand what direction you're coming from so we can take that offline and try to address your situation okay but go ahead with the website please if you're not a registered neighborhood association you're experiencing that difficulty again anyone can go online to see what zoning cases are coming forward you don't have to wait for that notification so on the same web page is on the far right under upcoming ordinances tentative zoning cases this is what you can click on in order to get the PDF report of applications that have been filed and meeting dates two weeks out we had an application deadline of last Friday and unfortunately we had four days of training so we're still verifying all of the cases but by Monday close a business this will be updated to reflect the two July meetings so right now it reflects June and the applications that have come in for July 3rd so now you can go online and take a look at what's been applied for the next batch will have July 3rd featured and July 18th somewhere on there so again anyone can go here you don't have to wait for notification to the neighborhood association the snail mail if you will you can go on here and just check that every two weeks because we update it every two weeks Kat can you show a ledgestar and the upcoming zoning commission agenda for folks who are not aware of ledgestar the city's calendar so on the San Antonio.gov website on the far left corner is city council and committee meeting agendas ledgestar is the software application system that the city utilizes for all boards, commission and city council agendas so once you click on that then you'll get to the site and every single meeting and subcommittee meeting that council has are featured here. Here's the zoning commission agenda so here is where you can click on the pdf of that agenda once you get to the pdf of the agenda every single case is listed and you'll see on the side this little blue ID number this is the ID number for where the data is held in the system once you click on that it will take you to the actual information so here's the location map here's the site plan and there are two ways in which you can review the staff report it starts off with defaults to history so you're not going to see anything here however this tab here is text it's a very sensitive mouse once you get there then you can see the text of it and then you can click here for the full text or you can also go up here to reports you can click on report you can get the agenda memo same thing but it's in a pdf format and then you can print that from home it comes up slowly but it will get there see there's a staff report all this information is loaded online location map, site plan and any other if SAWS reported if it's over the recharge zone we also load that up as well so this is where you can get all the information and our agendas are posted at minimum 72 hours we've typically done them on Fridays can't show them go back to the main page and show them how they can just filter just to see zoning commission so here's where you can filter for the different types of boards committees and you can there so you can just pull all of the agendas oh it went too far for that commission so here it will automatically filter for just all zoning commission agendas systems really easy to use very friendly and once you get into that agenda you can click on that blue link then you can start exploring okay we have a question here hi my question is two fold can you go back to your new RS1 and RS2 descriptions although you drive and my question for these two standards is on parking I'm sorry they'll have to meet minimal parking requirements I'm sorry just like all of our conventional zoning districts okay so I guess that was my question again we've run into issues and I know that there's a lot of people especially the younger people who are not interested in parking because they are trying to live closer to downtown but when we start looking at these developments and I'm telling you this is so you'll understand our perspective living in that area your entire life especially with some of these smaller lots and some of these smaller homes you have younger people or even elderly people well not elderly more mature people who move in no we're not seniors we're just empty nesters yeah so what happens is that when we're looking at this we're saying okay so that's great but downtown that's wonderful but what happens is when they start having kids I mean we literally had someone say well I don't want to I can't live here forever because once I have kids I'm going to have to move because you're an SAISD Dignity Hill is right so when we do this we look at the future what is the future you know you may not need it but someone else may need it in the future as far as parking is concerned and that's why we always look at minimum parking requirements if you get it great you may not be living there your entire life and that's some of the experience that we've dealt with because we do have the larger lots and we have the very small tiny lots my concern was this is what we run into again within Dignity Hill you are not allowed according to HDRC allowed to park in front of the house and I just wanted to make sure that these two R1 and new R1 in our two residential requirements require parking either on the side or on the back of a house as opposed to in front and this is where you have the weird the bad people because we're calling it out because HDRC does not talk to zoning and vice versa so these new developers or new homeowners are getting two different messages so for the R1 and R2 acknowledging that it is a small lot because in the code a minimum garage setback requirement of 20 feet from the front of the garage to the property line it will be waived to allow them to park in front of their house again if it's owned historic they're still going to have to comply with the overlay district standards all zoning will require this is your minimum base requirements you'll have to park it where you park it is going to be based on that historic overlay and I think that's where the confusion and then the frustration comes into play where when they finally are talking to the neighborhood association like the old art versus the new art right is where you're saying we don't agree with that we don't like the fact that you're trying to park your car in front of your house it doesn't meet historic guidelines so for R1 and R2 there's no site plan requirement just like the other residential districts are for R5 and R6 so right now if they request R1 and R2 it's just about the legal use of the property and then once they do that they'll still have to go through that approval process but early on in the process for any applications within our historic or Rio districts we send a copy of that application to Office of Historic Preservation so they're aware of it and it's on their radar and then we let the applicant know that they'll still have to comply with those Rio or historic standards so if it behooves them to go through some sort of conceptual site plan process to HDRC to make sure that they can still do it alright I just wanted to clarify and then the second question I had was that my third question I'm sorry I think a lot of us have our neighborhood established neighborhood plans how are y'all is your office adhering to our individual neighborhood plans as a voted audit approved by the residents of the neighborhoods in whatever year it was approved yes so part of the rezoning requirement requires us to look at any adopted neighborhood community perimeter or sector plans and as those plans are getting replaced by regional center or community plans to the say tomorrow planning process there's a land use component within each plan and each and that land use component that approval process will apply a land use designation to every property that's within those boundaries so our rezoning process requires us to look at is the zoning district that they're requesting to rezone to consistent with that land use category that is designated on that piece of property and if it is then they can rezone the property without having to do a plan amendment so that is a requirement right now that we have to make to maintain whether or not they are required to get a plan amendment to change that plan which is another public input process that piggybacks on the rezoning process so yes the plans are in place and the plans will continue to be in place and as the new adopted plans are adopted then we continue to do that consistency requirement review we have a question here and then we have a question in the back room my neighborhood is in the very center of the proposed Midtown Regional Center we have there are five neighborhoods involved one of them I know for sure has met about their plan their neighborhood plan we have one scheduled for Monday I know looking over the plan that an awful lot of it is narrative but it's narrative about land use that we also have a land use map and I find it difficult to understand how the city is going to educate the neighborhood the neighbors who are supposed to be putting these plans together or changing these plans and the new categories what's the process how is it going to happen you know what do you think and what is the time frame we're talking about for the essay tomorrow plan implementation well with the new land use categories it has to have a new land use categories I think they have gone to the public input process to get the feedback okay the new land use categories are going to comprehensive planning committee on Wednesday and then council will consider those and hopefully approve those land use categories on Thursday once those are approved then those are the new land use categories that are going to be utilized through that regional center plan process okay we have pardon me for interrupting but as I said our neighborhood has two meetings that's all one of them is with the plan team and that's Monday and the other one is at the end of this month with the entire you know the public meeting and that's it I'm not really sure but we need education I would let them know on Monday when you meet with them especially the planning department the team leads that are working on that that you'd like more find out what the rest of that public input is because they'll still have to go through an approval and adoption process they typically go through an open house process too once they get the input but talk to them on Monday about what that full component for the public input process and the community engagement processes and then ask them if you need more then you need more just let them know one thing I'll add is we'll talk to Bridget to make sure the planning director to make sure that their website is updated so that way this information is available for everyone with that and as much as an observation is a question with the IDZ getting some new categories I'm thinking of our neighborhood planning specifically those categories didn't exist so it's just known as IDZ I'm just trying to get prepared and giving everybody a heads up it might be a while before IDZ 1, 2, and 3 come into the neighborhood plan and with that I'm sure there's going to be a developer come into you guys and be talking about IDZ how are we going to untangle it says IDZ here but y'all are saying IDZ 1, 2, and 3 so it's going to depend on the density and the uses so if your land use category right now has land use designation of medium density residential medium density residential allows F18 so for us IDZ 1 could be consistent if all they're doing is a duplex so it would be consistent with medium density or the low intensity right because a lot of the plans and I'll tell you a lot of the plans today do not have IDZ listed as a district within their categories but IDZ is a special district so again we have to look at what the density is proposed and what the intensity is proposed for the business uses and fit that in with that land use category if the current land use category doesn't fit the doesn't allow for C1 for IDZ 1 then they'll have to go a step up maybe it's community commercial but we do that today we have another question here and then we follow Alejandro Soto Woodland Lake we have two NCDs and one historic district in our area I've seen the planning commission go ahead and amend our community plan even though we're against it and I've seen board of adjustment throughout NCD and historic regulations just because they feel like it so what's going to keep our IDZ standards intact so planning commission planning commission and zoning commission they're recommending bodies only when it comes to land use and zoning city council is the final decision for board of adjustment for variances to those development standards the board of adjustment is the final authority but they listen to that testimony provided at the public hearing I have seen them deny and Beacon Hill can attest to that deny certain variances including one that was just in Mankey Park as well on the NCD they've denied certain variances that aren't consistent or within the character of the neighborhood it just depends on what goes on during that public hearing process but there has to be an option for an applicant or homeowner to be able to ask for permission to do something that doesn't meet those standards and there is that public input process again we notify property owners within 200 feet for board of adjustment and zoning cases to allow that public input and that community engagement to occur but there has to be a process and all we do is we facilitate that applicant through the process but we encourage neighborhood associations or property owners who may not like what's being requested to speak or submit their support or opposition if I could just chime in real quick Tony we oversee several boards and commissions for board of adjustments. Our zoning commission and our board of adjustments are district appointed so please pay attention to when these appointments are vacant the seats are vacant for these districts because then we are looking to fill those and the problem is sometimes we don't have people to fill them so please pay attention to when those are happening the planning commission is at large we send out information out to all of our social media we're trying to find efforts and ways to reach out to people that do not have access to social media we also put information on our website so these are options or ways that you can participate in the conversation and we also have our planning commission technical advisory committee they are the ones that actually look at all of our regulations and codes and so it is very helpful if we have citizens serve on those as well yeah I did want to add one more thing along line of inquiry one of your concerns was that the board of adjustment can just modify it, they can just change it to be clear when we're talking about IDZ123 and you're showing on that site plan I'm going to have a 10 foot front setback the board of adjustment cannot modify that that's a condition imposed by city council so in this process what you're being shown on these sort of site plans it is going to be held to those standards the board of adjustment can modify those standards in the unified development code they cannot modify conditions imposed by council it would require rezoning thank you cat if someone said after the fact no I've got the zoning and I have the site plan and I want to modify that then you're going through an amendment process which could very well trigger a full rezoning of the property all over again we have a question back here I want to bring up the elephant in the room earlier we talked about our neighbors who maybe build their carport the wrong way and we kind of put it back there the elephant I want to address is disingenuous developers I think the message that we have here is that we must be vigilant I have a situation in my neighborhood they threw everyone out of affordable housing in 2015 and it's still going on and they were just shut down again last week this is after going through they willfully ignored getting their permitting they have and I'm not suggesting this is all developers at all my frustration is that I think that we as neighborhoods and I think this is part of what is fueling this is that we continue to have people who aren't performing in good faith either with the neighborhood or with the city this guy that got shut down again was shut down because they said oh we're filling potholes it's okay no they weren't filling potholes they stood at the dsd desk downtown and lied they had scraped their parking lot they had come back in with cold pack and a little bit of oil and that was going to be the parking lot for the apartment building thank you Zeke it got shut down because of the work of dsd it wouldn't have gotten shut down if there hadn't been a question from a resident who had their eye on the project so again I'm sorry if this is a bit of a lecture I appreciate what you guys are doing I know that about me but developers could be pushed just a little bit more I'll reiterate that if we could make that part of policy I understand council may have to act on that but that they are not just suggested but required to speak and communicate because honestly I can only speak for altavista but we are open to discussions showing good faith that's all we're asking thank you very much for your comments did they turn off the air? I think they did well we still have a few minutes so we're not done yet I guess I know we have a question in the front here let me ask you a question though we have shown the audience how to get to the updates on IDZ yes so that's what we have on our screen right now so all of the work of the task force and the proposed amendments as well as this PowerPoint presentation is on this website it will be loaded on this website after today to get there you go to sanatonio.gov once you get there you go to resources then go to codes and ordinances once you click on that then you're going to see all of the current projects or policies that we're working on including short term rental but for zoning updates you'll see that our altivista NCD which was just approved recently this last month and then our infill development zone has a page as well as well as the work that we're doing with Manki Park on updating their NCD so here's where all of the work of the task force has occurred all of the documents for every single task force meeting we started with the task force back in October we've had about seven task force meetings as well as about six general meetings to receive input as we've progressed through this process and so all of that information is posted on here including the most recent versions of the proposed changes to the code so you'll see the documents if you want to go to one of the documents and you can kind of see it live so the way we show our proposed changes is for new text we underline it put it in blue and for text that we are striking we strike it out in red so you'll be able to see a live document that shows what those changes are the PowerPoint is just supposed to summarize the information and this is the codified language that us code geeks do and work on it will be online starting Monday okay before I hand over the microphone to a last question we want to make sure we have time for STR a small STR update or presentation Tony if you would have time for that let me hand over the mic one more time I just had a question about is it possible or is it already included or would it be possible to include traffic impact assessments with these zoning ordinances or other impact assessments so for IDZ current IDZ waves traffic impact analysis for rezoning and throughout the process traffic impact analysis is required depending upon if they reach a certain peak hour trip for the project and the peak hour trip that they have to meet is 76 peak hour trips it's based on a national standard and so the traffic impact analysis would be required but it's not required during a rezoning process it's a very expensive process because you have to hire engineers to cost thousands and thousands of dollars and typically that is waived for the subdivision plat and or a building permit process because first you got to find out can I actually do the project that's what the rezoning is about and so some of those that are deeply into the project and have the ability to do a TIA will do some sort of type of traffic impact analysis maybe not the full TIA report but at least they'll get an idea of what type of mitigation they might be required to do but it's not a requirement in the rezoning because again you're just trying to find out can I legally do what I want to do and then if you are approved and you move through that process then you have to do the analysis if required to I'm going to be real quick because I know we're trying to get over to Tony anyone else if you do have questions right from this website here my name Logan Sparrow that's the link you hit that button you can email me any question number is right underneath it 210-207-86-91 if you have any questions that weren't able to be answered today please anytime shoot me an email give me a call before I turn it over to Tony Drainage I think is another issue for infill development so if we have any questions with regards to Drainage and water control runoff things such as that we'll send you if you can just pull up the website I'm Tony Feltz I'm the Interim Policy Administrator with Development Services I see a lot of faces that I recognize from working on this process if you guys remember we've been working on a an ordinance to regulate short term rentals in the city of San Antonio for a little over a year now we're slowly but surely trying to get that initiative to the finish line and for those of you who aren't familiar with short term rentals what we're talking about are the vacation rentals you know your Airbnb's those types of those types of things so just to give you a little bit of background like I said a little over a year ago former councilman Gallagher gave us a direction to look at short term rentals in the city of San Antonio we went through a process with a short term rental task force there are several members of the task force here in the room today we had several general meetings and we presented an ordinance to city council on April the 11th we got some really good feedback from council on April the 11th and with working with the mayor's office and district one particularly Kristi McCain she's here as well with us today we've proposed some modifications to that short term rental ordinance to try to address some of the concerns that neighborhood coalitions and neighborhood groups like yourselves have presented to us as well as some of the concerns that the short term rental industry has presented to us things like density things like fees event uses not not allowing event uses at those short term rentals things like that and we have had a task force meeting and another general meeting we will have another general meeting on June 28th to go into detail about that so I wanted to let you know that will be at our development services building 1901 South Alamo please join us we'll be there that's on June 28th that's on a Thursday evening Thursday evening at 5.30 so you don't have to come out on a Saturday you can come out you like Saturday? our last one was on Saturday and also we'll be at governance to get some feedback from a portion of the city council that'll be next Wednesday June the 20th that meeting is at noon but if you still have questions if you want to get some more information I encourage you to come to our general meeting on the 28th come to governance if you can again on Wednesday we also have a website you can get to it the same way that you can get to the IDZ changes Loken can you show them how to get there so it's a different tab so it's under codes and ordinances and you see their short term rentals and we have all that information we've got all of our public comments there as well as the task force members upcoming meetings as well as some of the documents and my email address is on there if you read through that if you have any questions feel free to contact me I'm happy to answer any questions that you might have thank you very much Tony and please do this on the 28th we'd love to see you well I believe we're at the presentation first of all I want to thank the audience we have a fantastic group here with some great questions I know some of those questions have not been totally answered and we'll get to the bottom of the questions but we really want to thank your attendance on a Saturday morning we want to thank Kat, Logan, Tony Melissa and Chrissy McCain for their spending their Saturday morning and trying to educate and present information our way I wish for Melissa a happy birthday because today's her birthday oh, Melissa it's happy birthday today and I'm not going to sing we also want to thank Nowcast SA for recording this particular presentation they will have a link on the tier one facebook so if you want to review the presentation that information is out there transparency is out there we want to get the information out to you folks and also I've been told if you have signed our signing sheet you will be receiving some email notifications I think Ricky has some comments I just wanted to say that we have very very good turnout today we need to remove the representative and six pamphlets so this is a topic that has a great impact thank you so much again thank you very much for being here on a Saturday morning bye bye