 So, before I start I will my lecture is on summary writing, but I thought I will spend some time because many of you had questions on what to do, what are our roles then on so on. So, before I present I would like you to ask something about what are the things that you have most difficult to relate to I mean what is it that you want to know. So, this is one question a related question somebody else asked was do we have to be there for entire workshop. The answer to both of that is your role there is actually not only as a manager of the course of course you are manager of the course there, but you are also conduct the course just as we are conducting the course. So, the instructors from here will give some tutorial assignment like the way you did some activity here. So, today Sahana asked you some questions. So, on that day Sahana will still be doing that questions from here now when the people respond to those questions you will be interacting with them directly see not we cannot see all of them at the same time, but you will be actually conducting the course. What we will do is the material that is going to be used in the tutorial it is like slide do this do that all that will be given to you beforehand before the workshop begins. So, even in a case that there is a intermittent AVU problem or network problem you can still continue because that schedule from say 9 to 10 30 is for writing elevator bridge. So, the instruction like the way you saw today there will be a slide which will tell one do this do this do that if normal internet connection is there the person from here the instructor from here will do it and you will get the audience feedback interact with them tell them how they can improve and so on. But, let us say it fails the internet fails or the AVU fails the power there is a power failure whatever and that time you will take over and you will take our role there and then continue it. So, by 9 to 10 30 that exercise is done yes that is what I said. The material that will be used for the workshop like the presentation that you saw today there were some presentations which will go in the online some presentations which will go in the workshop that material will be given to you before the workshop. Sir, but then competence also is required just a material like here there are 12 faculties coming and presenting and if the role then comes down to only one individual he has to play all the 12 faculty role will it not be difficult material fine. So, ultimately we or should we be arranging faculties for that no no no see ultimately the point of this course is that all of us should be able to do any of these things that is the ultimate objective today after I see this in fact Sahana will not be here in December he is going for some conference or something. So, I will be doing that role here it does not so the whole objective of this course is that all of us will take will be should be able to take each of the day of course it takes time that is why ABU is there that is why we are going to relate from here, but I am saying in a case of a failure you will have to take over I am saying only in the case of a failure apart from that there will be the interaction that you can give some some people ask some questions now you know you know more than them right you know that somebody asked a question you could answer that just as the way we evolved answers you will be answering them and if that is not possible you will push that question here. No, but then when there is a failure holding on to the audience if it is only 5-10 minutes okay you can take a question or pass it but if it for a longer duration then it would be a bit difficult. Why why should you are a teacher. No, because no I am a teacher but not an all rounder in all these subjects no it need not be but thing is expertise has to be there yeah so that those are all if something fails and some you can't help those you can go to the I think so just for that reason no you should not go and get a special teacher you are here not just as managers but also potential teachers of this. Sir the materials will be given in the form of what form? We will give the material in a PPT form. PPT form we can download and yes you can modify it later for your use but for this it's better we keep it like that because suppose say net fails or something like that okay maybe the video fails only audio is coming so you can display the same set of slides so at the at the moment please don't modify it but you are most welcome to use it later you use the content later. Sir before you also we can copy down all the PPTs. Yes yes yes yes all that will be shared with you I will show you how it will be shared but it will be shared with you yes so the recording of this workshop that is this people who are recording us now that is also available so worst case you might want to use some of this material in case something fails but it's okay I mean one of them yeah. Despite all these efforts that we take to run the smoothleaf there's something happens in between and if we need to contact somebody here will there be any online help available? No no so what kind of failures are there like disaster or no a technical snack oh you mean during the workshop yes as I said in my presentation we will be giving you dedicated helpline numbers so if you have a technical problem you would know which person to contact. Okay thank you. Okay so now I will let me just go through some aspects of this what roles that you have been different people are going to play and what is the point of interaction here point of interaction for me is websites there are four important websites of course email and phone all those things are there but the whole course interaction is through these four websites let me just list it down here so there'll be four websites you will be interacting NMICT website Moodle coordinator workshop there's a Moodle course and coordinator workshop that is one then IIT Bombay X the third one then Moodle main workshop fourth one so there are only four interaction points but not all of them will be interacting with everything okay I will go into one by one so there are four websites there are four roles IIT Bombay that is this program many of us here workshop coordinator which is all of you teachers who will be registering later for this course and the center coordinator for us it's the remote center coordinator for you it's a local center coordinator okay some of you might be both workshop coordinator and center coordinator right but there are four roles so there are four roles four websites so I will just take you through this diagram so there are four websites NMICT or four roles first time first of all IIT Bombay workshop coordinator teachers and center coordinators okay four roles IIT Bombay of course we'll be interacting with all the four websites NMICT Moodle CW which is coordinator workshop IIT Bombay X and Moodle main you workshop coordinators again will be interacting with all the four website NMICT Moodle coordinator workshop IIT Bombay X as well as Moodle main the teachers will have only three to interact NMICT IIT Bombay X and Moodle main center coordinators will interact only with NMICT website okay now begin so let's fast forward and we are already in coordinators workshop now 24th August to 28th August yeah 24th 28th coordinators workshop and now there is actually no interaction with websites now except that like some of you did yesterday you have to register yourself as a user in IIT Bombay X website most of you did yesterday those of you who have not done it please register yourself as a user okay you can't do anything more than registering user because there are no courses only the demo courses available other than that you cannot enroll for a course so I am using two words here one is register other is enroll okay although in English it may be the same register here means registering you as a user enroll means enroll for a course so there are thousand courses in IIT Bombay X you register yourself as a user and you selectively enroll for whatever course you want okay so that is the difference between register and enroll so these dates will be slightly plus or minus few days so that is not so important 30th of August or 31st of August we are going to announce the STTP course so this the online course will come up in IIT Bombay X very dummy but nothing you can see but it from our side we'll put it up there for by 4th September we are going to advertise the short-term program can you just how we are going to advertise that we have a database of all the participants who have taken part in our workshops earlier so it's about one lakh teachers on our database we send them an email and we also have our website running we have the brochure on our website so that's the way we advertise also you will be given a soft copy of the brochure which you can use to print out and advertise in colleges around your college okay so that happens around 4th September when we advertise and you can also pass the information around okay so now 4th September when we announce it from 4th September teachers will go to NMI CT website okay and register as a user first they have to register as a user okay and then there are lots of courses again in NMI CT they have to apply for each of the course now some of the teachers who have already come to IIT Bombay for some course or the other if they already have a NMI CT user login they can use that okay they can continue to use the old user ID if they don't have an old user ID they create a new user ID and then apply for this course okay they apply for this STTP course I mean this question always comes up you are the workshop coordinators and not participants of the workshop so there will be one person one role kind of a thing you're either a participant or a workshop coordinator no but in the in the IIT Bombay they will no IIT Bombay you have to sign up anyway but for the NMI CT you are not to sign up because NMI CT what you already signed up there for this course you're already a course coordinator you don't have to do anything there so that you see that there is no action for you during this time now this is between 4th September and 1st October well the 1st October is really pushing it to the last okay because the next week the course is going to start 8th October course is going to start so 4th September to 1st October is when the site will be open for applications from teachers so teachers register and then apply simultaneously you can also ask those teachers to register themselves in the IIT Bombay X which is independent activity okay anybody can register in IIT Bombay X okay there is no restriction even if let's say some somebody registers in NMI CT and their application gets rejected for some reason they can still register for IIT Bombay X and take other courses there nothing stops them that IIT Bombay X is open to everybody anybody with an email address can register in IIT Bombay X okay all right so now once somebody has registered we validate those applicants whether they have certificates and other requests so after they apply there we validate them after we validate the center coordinators will log into NMI CT website and then approve the applicants oh I'm sorry I forgot one step here one thing I missed out here for center coordinators center coordinators will have to I'm sorry I skipped this step so when we advertise for the STTP short term in September the teachers cannot register until the center coordinators put their center capacity in their website am I correct so your center will be visible only after you have completed this particular step before 4th September right yeah starting from 4th September onwards no no the when they have to register the as soon as we announce no if it should be before that no when we announce then teachers will come on login they will not find the center in their name no no I think it's better do it before let's do it before we will do it on first we'll do it one day before thanks for pointing that out yeah because earlier I think they were doing it one day later it came but let's do it this is a better suggestion so let's do it one day before the center capacity will be done on third no by third by third you should end of center capacity time from first to third to complete the no now even now they can do it right we don't have a list ready yet we don't have that link ready yet so it has to be between first and third between first and third the center coordinators will fill in the center capacity so once the center capacity is up then your teachers will be able to view what is the center close to their location seats number of seats yes you have to register the capacity of your center how many seats you're going to provide and all that cost and all those things how many seats and how many computers you can offer to the participants yeah yes 30 chairs 30 systems yes with a view that facilities of that it's there it has to be there in our lab it is fixed for your programs I think this particular information is not to our remote center coordinator I think what's the problem is not to worry about no workshop coordinator shouldn't worry about this but make sure that you inform your remote center coordinator to fill this in in our in in one of this particular login is going to be given only to remote center coordinator and not to workshop coordinator we expect that the remote center coordinator will complete this step so once a center is visible the teachers will be able to register and apply for that particular center okay so once the teacher applies we validate the teacher after we validate again the center coordinator needs to approve give the final approval okay your payment no no no center coordinator the approval is done by the central coordinator the approval is done by the remote center coordinator after the participant pays the fee the approval is totally dependent upon whether the participant pays or not once he pay he or she pays then the participant is turned to confirmed that way you your RCC also knows how many people will be coming to his or her center okay so I wanted to ask one thing sir this we need systems also so the systems which will be need they'll be different from the AVU place or they have to be in the AVU only they need not be in the AVU classroom you will have a different session for the computers so you can take them to the computer lab and bring them back to the classroom yes yes we will be doing all that we are going to say engineering and science engineering science polytechnic and teachers of PG colleges science colleges all people in the arts humanities who take courses for engineering okay they will understand that it is only nine for meant for English faculty okay that's why you make it clear that any faculty of engineering also so that title is technical communication no no no but this is the point now tell me in suppose a university has got humanities division okay are they the ones who usually take this course or people from the engineering faculty or they have some specialized teachers who take the colleges only English department okay so what do you suggest we should do okay you mean in the somewhere in the subject itself we should write open to all departments so then which department will it go we'll go to all departments all they make a copy and send it is it see if I give a content the register office will not understand all those things as you said it is open to all departments you put something like that so they make a copy and send it that is better what will register office know about what the contents are they will not understand that it's not the question of not opening to all but how do we title the subject or attention in the mail okay definitely that is open hello but I think your your point is well taken that we will whenever we can make it open to all but our certificates are meant for teachers of engineering colleges only so that is your responsibility to tell us amongst your participants which ones are teachers of they will get the itbx on a code but they will not get the IST certificate no IST certificate no IST certificate is only for teachers of science and engineering colleges if he gets colleges no no no no no science and engineering colleges but in his it's not that school teachers we are not talking about school teachers in that perfect right yes the whole point of this is to train the teachers who will teach you teach registered scholars you teach undergraduate students that is up to you this STTP is only for teachers okay your the research scholars not this semester next semester this course will go free in IIT Bombay X at that time anybody can register so we don't we don't we should not tell research scholar at the moment this is only for teachers who will be teaching research scholars who will be teaching undergraduates that is up to you we do make an exception for teaching associates who are teachers from your college who are also doing their M Tech or PhD we make that exception but they should be teachers in the first place see arts and science colleges if they are going to use this subject in their curriculum nothing stop you know there are two things here one is using for their own personal gain one second thing is that using it for teaching somebody else the whole objective of this course is that we're providing you some material which can be used for teaching other people now one potential use of this could be as I said in my first day let's say not this semester next semester when this course goes online you can conduct a course in your college for all the arts and science people in the locality you use IIT Bombay X and you conduct tutorials you call anybody you understand my point you have the next time that is now we are just training teachers next time these teachers you you tell that okay I am going to offer this course on technical communication all the research scholars can come and join I am going to teach this course on technical communication all the people in the arts and science colleges who are doing their PhD or who are interested in research can come and join what will you ask them to do you ask them to register for IIT Bombay X for free you conduct parallel tutorial sessions synchronized with that and at the end you give a certificate or whatever right you get my point sir I have a question sir sir like Calcutta University has communicated English India syllabi for the undergraduate so those teachers cannot join this course not teachers of undergraduate courses are not allowed non-engineering disciplines we treat only teachers of PG courses okay so anyone who's teaching MA in English so in Calcutta University can she join this course technical communication has to be technical yes okay IIT Bombay X course is only by invitation only by invitation means all of you plus approved teachers who have registered on an MAIC only approved teachers and all of you are will be given invitation to join IIT Bombay X next semester onwards you are welcome to use IIT Bombay X combine it with your own tutorials and you can if it's part of your curriculum you can use it maybe in your curriculum only 80 percent of IIT Bombay X material is there right you can use only those portion and then conduct your own okay and since it is an invited workshop only even if your students register on IIT Bombay X they will not be able to see this okay so now we are here when the teachers apply and then we validate the applications after that the center coordinator approves the individual teachers after getting the thousand rupees payment what kit as we provided here from writing script that is totally up to you and can we use our logo on that script that is a kid as long as you don't forget to use IIT Bombay also so along with the IIT Bombay we can also use our logo yes thank you as if madam told that you have one lakh and above data no madam as if we we are from different different states and different different districts can you give us the data of the which district we belongs to no that that data is very easily to them and we can motivate them to come no what we can do what we can do is probably share the colleges but we cannot share the email we cannot share private email like email address we can't share no no he's asking can we get the database but the database you will send a mail to them that's all they may not respond to the that's true but what we can say is probably we can share the colleges list yeah it's it's up to you colleges we can say and what no but I think it's not right to share the concern but these are private email IDs and we cannot share them okay now so this whole of registration process and final approval of each teacher will have to be completed by 3rd October we will finally confirm the participants up to 1st October is when they will register 3rd October is from our side final list will be done by 3rd there's absolutely nothing after 3rd October not from your side from our side and this verification and approving from your side is an ongoing activity you don't have to do it after the registration stops you can do it as in way as in when a person is verified or validated from IIT Bombay so once all the participants are confirmed we will automatically register the participants or and also enroll them in the Moodle course okay for IIT Bombay X you do the registration we do the enrollment for Moodle we do both together both registration as well as enrollment to the course so IIT Bombay X the users do the registration that is creating a user ID users create the user ID we enroll them by invitation it is in the IIT Bombay X in the 4th which is Moodle main site we do both the registration of user ID as well as enrollment in this course automatically but that will happen only on 3rd October after everybody is finalized this we will do the registration automatically with the same user ID which we started off with they don't have to do anything they do have to do something where once they are once they are confirmed they will get an email from us with the Moodle link just as you people where and they just have to click on that that's what yeah that is just like changing password kind of thing you don't have to register in okay so then this happens now one thing that I would like to stress is that when this teachers register in IIT Bombay X like yesterday we stressed they have to use the same user ID as they used in the NMICT website same user ID right that you need to stress we'll also tell in our mails so as I said we will be auto enrolling all the participants which is you as well as see currently you are enrolled only in Moodle 1 which is coordinator workshop by 3rd October you will be enrolled you along with the teachers will be enrolled in the Moodle main we will also enroll you by invitation we will invite you at the back end okay we'll enroll you to IIT Bombay X which means by this time all of you including the teacher should have completed IIT Bombay X registration by this time here right so I have said that registration of IIT Bombay X completes there itself 1st October by 4th October we would have finished everything is ready to go online course starts 8th October ends 9th November course starts and course ends so here what you have to do nothing to do in NMICT website nothing to do in a coordinator of a website but now you are also a student or participant in the IIT Bombay X so you have to view the videos complete the self assignments similarly there will be home assignments and peer review in Moodle so all the home assignments that comes part of this online course okay online course self assessment and home assignment will be done on Moodle self assessment will be done on IIT Bombay X home assignment and peer review on Moodle so you will be doing this and so the teachers the teachers will also view the videos and carry out self assessments on IIT Bombay X they will also do the home assignments and peer review in Moodle so this is common to both of you the course ends 9th by 11th November you should be able to download the honor certificate which is you have completed the IIT Bombay X okay difference between honor certificate and other certificate is IIT Bombay X cannot tell that you are the person who completed okay anybody on your behalf could have completed that because we cannot be sure okay in a real-life situation if you want a real certificate from IIT Bombay X although we don't have that mechanism now for example if you the same thing is available in Stanford University or MIT MIT so the way that happens there is you have to pay some $25 per course of $50 per course 50 but some of them are 25 too so let's say $50 you pay $50 and then the exams that you take apart from the online cell there will be detailed exams you have to go to a particular center where they will see your identity card and make sure you are the person giving that exam and then they will that means that somebody on behalf of MIT okay some center on behalf of MIT has verified that you are the person who came and for that you will get a MIT certificate correct IIT Bombay X also will eventually do that we are we are not yet done we don't not yet we don't have that yet but definitely honor certificate all of you who have completed this can download similarly the teachers also can download the honor certificate from IIT Bombay X there is no honor certificate for Moodle so there's only IIT Bombay X honor certificate is there so that's the end of online now the next following week we will put up as somebody asked material that will be required for the face-to-face workshop the face-to-face workshop is between 30th November and December so before that we will put up all this material it may be PPT files or set of documents which need to print and pass it around whatever the material is to be shared with the participants all that will be available in the coordinators workshop Moodle okay not this Moodle this is the place where the instructors will interact with you okay we will put all that material in the coordinator workshop and you will download it from coordinators workshop Moodle it's not a very complicated thing you will get an email okay we shall simply have a download link so don't get need no need to remember in that sense okay the email link will directly will take you to this website so once you download that the main workshop begins 30th November and the main workshop as we do the tutorials there could be some small assignments which might require peer evaluation and those things might come will if it is there it will come in this Moodle main workshop now you are a participant so suppose you have to evaluate other participants that will be there and participants also will evaluate other participants that is also will be there suppose in the workshop we ask them to write a paragraph and you ask them to make a presentation you ask them to evaluate something of that sort could be that not for all activities some activities may have that so that is the end of the workshop during the workshop you as workshop coordinator you have to interact with the NMICT website by uploading your workshop daily attendance okay as was pointed out in the first day you will have to take a print out take the signature scan it and upload it the next day so that will be available in the NMICT website you upload to the NMICT website not to the Moodle after the workshop ends we will again put up some small assignment for the teachers not for you for the teachers we will put up some assignment in the Moodle main Moodle which they have to complete by 2 weeks so 6th December it gets over 6th December it will be up by 2 weeks they have to complete the assignments so to summarize there are four websites there are four roles not all of them interact with all IITB of course IITB and workshop coordinator interact with all the four websites teachers will interact with only NMICT on the bomb eggs and Moodle main center coordinator will only interact with NMICT website okay we will share this in the Moodle course this one coordinator so anything that is between coordinators and IIT Bombay this kind of sharing documents or general this today's presentation files all that will be in this coordinator workshop so sir Diwali would be I think very immediately started so it was just one request if we can finish the online courses just by 7th or 8th see online courses there is no meaning of finishing okay what it means is that the last week the week starts on Thursday and ends on Wednesday so 5th to 11th is the week okay that means that by 5th on 5th itself all the material that is required for the entire week is given to you since that is the last week you can attempt that questions on 5th this is a 5th number or you wait finish up Diwali crackers and then do it after the after that it's up to you okay so from our side because it's the last week if it were the in between week then next week's assignment would have come which is why we just finished it off by all from all material from our side will be up on 5th we don't need to put anyway the deadline will be one one week plus after that in fact downloading will have to change the date it will be little late so submission the final submission will definitely be one week after Diwali okay don't worry about that yes all of these things will be given to you you can send print it out and keep it main workshop is 30th November to 5th December six days six day six day workshop Monday to Saturday regarding this attendance where to put it online enter the attendance online and take it physically and scan the documents and upload it both both no no yes both there are two steps and we will send you the link for it on NME ICT one minute see the question is during online course do they have to come to the AV no a online is meant to be taken anywhere on their mobile when they travel and train or bus or whatever they want and there is no also time restriction no time restriction except there is a submission time like suppose this week I give a quiz 10 days from now there is a submission time any time from today to 10 days from now you can submit it okay sir there is nothing like you have to take the quiz from 8 o'clock to 9 o'clock today nothing like that okay you can take the quiz anytime you want only there is a submission deadline so they need to observe submission deadline within that stipulated pair they need to submit anytime they can use it anytime they can view anytime they can submit within that deadline thank you sir any questions or earlier workshops you were paying some amount to the center coordinator and workshop coordinator what about this time so you did not read the brochure we are not paying anything to the remote centers this time your remote center coordinator must have come to us on 29th November and it was in that meeting that it was decided that there will be no funds from IIT Bombay for this particular workshop to the remote centers so that is why we have decided on this 1000 rupees fee from the participant and whatever your expenditure is it you have to fit it into that fee that the participant gives you this is the first workshop in that from now the new workshops will be in this mode and we are also see the thing is when MHRD funded we could support it but now the idea is that that was an experimental phase how it works to see how it works okay maybe MHRD might come two years later they say don't ask the colleges I will pay for them we are happy to do at the moment we are not doing that we are saying that because each college can fund small amount it is not a big amount right 1000 rupees per teacher is nothing okay even if it is 3000 rupees per teacher it is nothing excuse me so all that will be taken care of we need to evolve and see which method works okay so we have tried one we are going to try the other what is for future we need to see ultimately MHRD money coming directly or through somebody okay so the cost of free and this will be I know exactly all this was discussed in the remote center coordinators meeting we had a lot of people expressing that when some something is for free madam nobody you know uses it properly or people come just for the certificate now we are actually making them pay for it and work for it also very difficult to go there now for two weeks fine excuse me so you make it can you make it 10,000 then 1000 rupees is nothing man five days 1000 rupees I mean just leave it and the minimum fee to come to IIT Bombay for a CEP continuing education program is 10,000 rupees excuse me any provision is there to take TA technical that is teaching assistant for this course or not you can take a TA but you I mean if there is any money involved you have to take care of it okay the institute has to pay yes yes or from your pocket we would like to have a minimum of 30 but I do understand that there are some centers which are really remote and they may not not be that many people so at least 10 people in such centers but we do expect a minimum of 13 other centers and upper limit is you have to provide comfortable seating for your participants okay so I have got just half an hour