 You're on a different microphone today. Do you want to explain what this microphone is for people who aren't watching the video? And we'll apologize to them. As people know, last week we were recording right before my Vision Pro delivery. So I have my Vision Pro on today, and you're hearing me through the Vision Pro microphones rather than my standard microphone. It's also why I'm sideways on the video. We didn't do some pre-testing and realized that StreamYard, because I'm in a mobile app, it defaults to a landscape view, and you have to set the orientation before we go live, but we were live already. So I'm sideways pseudo-atom down there in that window for people who can't see it. It's video. I mean, you know, picture portrait mode when you turn it landscape on your iPhone, and that's how you're seeing virtual me, which also looks kind of old. And another interesting thing is, you know, you can add glasses. So you do your scan without the glasses. You do your, you know, thing. Those are digital glasses. But for whatever reason, they have a ton of frame selection, but you have to do transparent glasses. I don't know why, so. Oh, you can't do opaque frames. You can't do colors. Like I would make them black, because normally my glasses are black, but at least not yet. I don't know if they'll change that. Yeah, that's interesting. That was an interesting thing. Can you have your avatar wear a Vision Pro to be like super meta about it? No, you can't. There wasn't a Vision Pro glasses. What? That seems great. Okay, so I haven't gone for my Vision Pro demo yet. I have one scheduled. I'm going to do it this weekend. Pete or John have either of you done a Vision Pro demo yet or is Adam truly the only one here of us that's worn one? I think he is. Yeah. Okay. So I have questions, Adam, because you've had this thing for a week. Yep. I mean, I have all kinds of questions, but the first one that I have is about one of your predicted use cases for this work. You work as a programmer, so how has that gone? Yeah, so that's a perfect question, because that's my big use case. I still have a lot of things to set up, and there were some challenges with work. So as you might imagine, I work remote. So one of the big apps we use is Slack. Right? And we are not Slack. Microsoft Teams. Zoom. Zoom. Right? We're on Zoom a lot. So there's a Zoom app for it, and it works great. I did a Zoom call with some of my co-workers, but one of the features we use in Zoom, and we rely on a lot, is breakout rooms. So we have breakout rooms, and I cannot figure out how to do breakout rooms in, and I have to be very careful using my hands, because to talk, because things are going all over the place. But in Zoom, I couldn't find breakout rooms. So I couldn't get into, we break into pods. So throughout the day, when I'm working, I'm sitting with my other developers that are in my pod, but they're in a breakout room, so I couldn't get into that breakout room. Now I could do it from my computer, and that worked great, like bringing up the computer display. So look at my Mac, connect, creates a virtual display. I can use my regular keyboard and trackpad. That works awesome. You can throw up, it's a 4K screen. You are limited to one 4K screen. So if you want to do multiple screens, you can bring up other Vision Pro apps, basically any iOS app or any Vision app, you can put up all around that Mac screen. So you have to really rely on that. So that works great, because I can do email, because all of the Office suite is there. So Outlook, no problem. I can throw that up there. I could throw up Zoom, but all the features of Zoom don't look like they're quite enabled yet, at least not in the Vision Pro app. I could probably also download the iPad app. I don't know if iPad app supports breakout rooms, but I would imagine that it does. But yeah, Visual Studio Code was there on my main screen. They don't have a dedicated app for it yet that I would imagine Microsoft might change. So as more Vision Pro apps, it's early. So one of my very first impressions is that there's a lot of awesome stuff. The iPad apps work okay. Vision Pro apps are definitely better. They're better optimized in terms of the interface and stuff like that. So I think as more apps become available, I look at it like the original iPhone, right? When the original iPhone came out, we didn't have apps or there were, and even when we had apps, there was very limited apps. And it took a while for that to kind of get there. So, I mean, but at the end of the day, it worked. And with the right strap, did I do some? No, Pete just made me nice and big on the screen. You did. Somebody did. So long story short, I think it's workable. There's a learning curve, though, because the other thing is, is you have to look, you know, you have to be actually looking at a window to interact with it. And the hardest one was typing. So, yes, you can use your keyboard, but I need to be looking at the place where I need to be typing, right? Right. Which is a little bit different. I can't just like have the cursor in the window over there and type. I have to like look and type. So that's a little bit different. Okay. All right. But but like for doing your coding work, like the not meeting part of it functional. Yep. Yeah. Yeah. And the other thing is, when you're using the keyboard, it will also bring up a little virtual like anchor display, like when you're using your physical keyboard, above the physical keyboard. So you can see if you're looking down at your keyboard, you can see what you're typing. But again, you have to go over, insert the cursor, you know, like start, get it going. And then kind of you can, you can type away. Fascinating. Like, first weekend, you're able to be productive with it and all of those things ish. Yeah, not as productive as I'm just using my dual monitor setup. But like I said, it's a learning curve. I can see getting there. It's just like, this is a whole new thing. And like even now, when I still want to talk with my hands, but if I pinch things, you know, dialogues are coming up and stuff. Yeah, I think I think careful. I blamed Pete for changing the video, Leia. I was doing it. It turns out I don't think it was Pete. Yeah. Did I do it? I think the three of us, I don't think John has those controls on his screen because of the way we brought John in today. So it's us. Oh, probably if I look at those little icons down below and then make a hand gesture, yes, that was probably me making things go wonky. Just as long as you don't end the call. It's fascinating to see when he does make a hand gesture, puts his hand up in front of his face and moves his hand, it does it. Yeah. Now, your fingers are invisible when they're in front of your face. That's where it turns out I was hitting my microphone, which I can't see. Hey, somehow you just turned portrait mode, Adam, on the screen. Well done, sir. I did. I don't know what I did. What'd you do?