 Well, you've definitely been vocal and it seems that most of your Attacks are within the man of spirit self. There are a lot of times that there are guys that have spoken at your events or people who are Highly looked upon in the spirit in the space, but you have no problem Poking holes and yeah figuring out and then voicing your opinion of these guys Why do you feel that that's so important? Couple reasons first of all like I mentioned to you before we started my grandma was a devout Catholic Like really devout when a church every week. She prayed every single night. I've ever seen her in my life For we're talking like two three hours a night. A lot of it was to my grandfather who died of esophagus cancer before I was born The rest of it, you know the rosary beads and whatever else I don't remember this point when Catholics pray for you I'm sure you know though. She spent every night. It's like like a monk Praying out on the patio at her house and the dark just with the rosary beads and pray pray pray So that doesn't specifically I didn't specifically interpret from that be a Catholic to me It was the the example of her actions with her dedication to this and Her commitment to it and her commitment even to my grandfather It was in my view as a kid even growing up watching this It was a commitment to do what was right. She believed this is the right thing to do as a Christian as a Catholic And as a woman and as a widow It was right to do this and she was gonna do it every fucking night no matter what Until she was like dying in the hospital the end of bone cancer at 91 years old So that to me really imprinted on me as a moral example And so in the man a sphere as an entrepreneur as a man as a leader and as a speaker, you know, blah, blah, blah I always want to do what's right. I'm always going to do what's right come hell or hot water This is a philosophy that was kind of demonstrated to me by my grandmother and it's the one that I've chosen on purpose It's one that I think is the best for me. It's the best for my life. It's the most rational. It's the most manly It's the most masculine you do what's right no matter what As you know, I sued a family member of mine earlier last year Cause the big rep were my family fell to civil lawsuit against them to protect some kids enough use This made people really fucking mad and I totally didn't give a fuck because it was the right thing to do So when I'm presented with the moral choice, this isn't an excuse to be autistic and have no care of a strategy at all in life, but generally speaking if I'm presented with the moral choice like exposing a fraud who has lied to my face Lied to my friends lied to my speakers lied to my customers lied to their own fans on the internet that pisses me off So I'm gonna I'm gonna get presented with the choice Do I do the right thing or do I ignore this and sweep it under the rug and pretend like it didn't happen? Or it's not going on now and I write thing every fucking time And you've taken a big responsibility of creating a platform for yeah men in this space I've created the world's first and only Ted talks for men that I know of The longest running man is your event in the world 26 or 27 events now across five countries in three continents See, I'm really proud of what I've done You don't interrupt too much there Yeah, well, let's talk about that because You you've curated all these men and you brought them all together in one place you have a media company that Promotes their ideas even if you don't always agree with them. That's right As a voice for the man is fear and for men today and I appreciate that. Yeah, that's how you and I came to know each other and What is the future for the 21 convention and 21 studios and where do you see this all going? Well, it's I think it's gonna keep getting bigger and better My commitment to it every year like a man for myself is I want to get a little bit better each year A little bit stronger a little bit wiser and all that kind of stuff With the events, it's the same thing each year. I want it to be a little bit more professional I want it to be a little bit bigger Excuse me a little bit better more professional smoother operating better speakers new speakers new ideas Whatever I can do to make it like 1% better or 5% better or whatever. I want to do that each and every year So we just broke also half a million subscribers recently. I told you doesn't catch you Yeah, I'm gonna catch you. Oh, yeah, at least your little channel I'm losing subscribers every day on Ellie Halls. Oh, yeah, damn. I lost like 600 last week Wow, you pissing people off probably that's good. I lose subscribers sometimes I lose subscribers every day I just gain more these people like oh, I'm unsubscribing you're just a hater I'm like the fuck out of here loser. You'll be replaced in 10 seconds We were gaining in October. I think like Do we gain like 4,000 subscribers in a day amazing? So I'm like, yeah, I get the fuck out of here You don't want to be here. I don't like you beta male. You don't want to hear it These guys so with the red pill stuff taking a step back to it We mentioned earlier that and I mentioned that the red pill these red pill retards They want to like they want to take the red pill. They want to be alpha males They want to be masculine, but really I've realized that they don't they they're like women They're because they're beta males. They want the feeling of being red pill They want the feeling of being masculine. They want the feeling of being an alpha male. They want emotions They don't want the truth When I told them the truth about these frauds and the stuff doesn't matter what I show them, right? There's always an excuse like liver king, right? liver king people were saying he was on steroids for years even Joe Rogan We a lot of those fans didn't want to hear it. No, he's not just a hater. No, it's bullshit Then he gets exposed then he admits it. Oh, well, I forgive him now. Oh, well, people make mistakes You know, it's very similar to the man is fair. What are your thoughts on what's happening?