 You're not giving you're not giving the blessing anything to multiply. You're just gonna take the involvement of money So it can be multiplied if I want to believe God for a 65 million dollar plane You cannot stop me. You cannot stop me from dreaming They discover life on Mars If you think a 65 million dollar plane was too much if they discovered that there's life on Mars They gonna need to hear the gospel and I'm gonna have to believe God for a billion-dollar space shuttle because we got to preach the So when I heard that creft flow dollar Aka creft flow dollar bill as they call them Had repentant about tithing When I first heard I saw it so okay. All right part of me was was of the mind said well, okay about time Another part of me was thinking, huh What is he up to? Because that's not really in keeping with creft flow. However We know that the Lord can change hearts and thankfully that we do have a God whose spirit can So overwhelm a person that they can cause them to change. I mean, that's what we call being repentant And so maybe he has had a repentant heart or a penitent attitude Maybe after all this time creft flow dollar has decided that you know what I was wrong now He says so and we're gonna look at some of the things that he said in Three videos in three sermons that he had this wasn't man I don't know if you all saw all three of the sermons or one of the sermons or two or what have you But this wasn't a one Sunday issue. No This has been either three or four weeks and so he's Makes me wonder. Okay. Well, why why why this what what's happening here? And I want to be skeptical. I want to believe that That he has changed and that was really my first thought about it but then I thought sort of things about it and I said, you know what? Let me see this. Let me let me just take a look at this now What was interesting was that I was going to I have a video on tithing about four or five minutes I was going to update it because someone had asked about tithing And so that was kind of already in my mind and then to see this You know what? This be the perfect opportunity to kind of go a little bit more on to it But I don't know how much I will get on tithing as much as I will on just his motives now The mere fact that there's a video that I'm doing about it Kind of sheds light on what I'm probably thinking I'm I'm suspect. I'm suspect of what he what he's doing. I'm gonna tell you why as a matter of fact I do not believe let me just say ahead of time. I do not believe that he's repentant I'll get to that reason why I'll use his own words To say so and but let's just go ahead and jump into it and see what he said. Let's go to One of his recent sermons and let's just talk about it to correct some things that I've taught for years and I saying to you that I'm still growing and That the teachings that I've shared in times past on the subject of tithing were not correct and today I stand in and humility To correct some things that I've taught for years and believe for years The problem when someone nowadays is how bad it's got when someone repents and And when someone is faking Repentance Now I know what both are like I know what it's like to genuinely repent and I know what it's like to kind of fake a repentance. I've been in both spots Both sound the same Both seem the same matter of fact One of my greatest acting jobs in the history of mankind was when I was faking my repentance tears coming down and everything Everybody believed me brother court. They want to give me a hug and so forth They believe me and so it's hard to kind of compare what looks like Genuine repentance. Well, I know a thing or two about what genuine genuine repentance looks like and there is the after The words have left your mouth. It's so after you've said these things then what's happened But sometimes you don't have to go to the to the action sometimes you can just Finish listening to the words that they say and then see well, wait a second. We Houston we got a problem here but could never understand understand it clearly because I had not yet been Confronted with the gospel of grace Which has made the difference Okay, now first of all I have to say this you're a pastor for all these years And you say you're just now being confronted with the gospel of grace. Where have you been? Where in the world have you been? What gospel were you preaching? It's as though this issue of grace is foreign. Huh? Have you guys heard about great? Have you heard about grace? Imagine the concept it I Won't apologize because if it wasn't for me going down that route, I would have never ended up where I am right now Which is with the jet which is with the money which is with the houses which is with all the money in the fame now The issue is going to be is if you are repenting because repenting person wants to rectify things wants to make things right How much are you giving back? But I will say That I have no shame at all at saying to you Throw away every book every tape and every video I ever did on the subject of tithing Unless it lines up with this I've done some corrective teaching in the in the in the last ten years But not to the degree of what we're getting ready to do now So why is this important? Because religion is sustained by two factors Fear and guilt and if it's one subject that the church has used for a long time To keep people in fear and guilt it is in that subject of tithing and It has to be corrected And it's got to be corrected now I May lose some friends preachers may not ever invite me no more, but I think I already been through that so it doesn't matter Okay, first of all, I think me personally I see a new book coming. That's what I see I'm with you chest jam. No, don't throw it away. Give them give them a refund Now I'm saying all this because just that alone is not enough for me to say I don't believe you Just that alone is not is not my issue as a matter of fact Well later on in the sermon he gets to is like, okay. Yeah, you you are It's the same old creflop He says that in the and it's true in the past we have used Guilt and shame and so forth to get people in the giving I've been in churches where they take up an offering They take up ties and offering and they won't let anyone leave that room until they get enough money Usher's locked the doors You ain't did church until you had it somebody tell the ushers to lock the door Y'all ain't leaving until Until we get another thousand out. Have you ever been held hostage in your church because these folks wanted some money Or the little scan where they say listen I we need X amount of dollars for so and so and so and so I'm gonna start things off by giving thousand dollars and I have literally seen I'm not saying all the time I'm not saying all I am not saying all the time But I have seen it happen to where the pastor then goes back in the room and then asked for that money back Asked for that check back It happens I'm not impugning churches because we should give to churches to support these local ministries Especially the good ones especially the good ones now There are times where we don't know what they're doing with it And so we put it in God's hand and if you mess over God's people for this money God have mercy on your soul literally because now you're really playing with fire, but there was there was Some other things that he said that just kind of caused me to raise my eyebrow now in truth We are not obligated to pay tithes someone says well if we don't pay tithes well, how would how would churches? exist because Obviously money is required to pay the lights and so forth and the light company the gas company the water company They don't take faith. They don't take prayer. They take cash. They take checks so That is It's it's normal to think that the church needs money and they have to receive money from the people that part is fine That part is fine. And if you if you are getting blessed by a particular ministry, I think you ought to support that ministry That's not a problem now The church's responsibility is to be financially sound and you have a right and an obligation I believe to make sure that what the church is doing with the money is on the up and up You don't want to support some ministry where the money that's going to further the ministry Is it actually going to further the ministry? I think you have the right and you also have the right to demand that where you're shopping at so to speak if you're going to Some grocery store or what have you and they don't have good fruit They don't have good vegetables fresh fresh meat. Well, then you have the right to take your business elsewhere So to speak go someplace where you are fed But it's not by tithes Someone said again, what would happen if folks stop paying tithes? Well, the average the average Attender at a church pays about two to three percent of their income anyway, so people aren't paying the ten percent anyway But I said that I'll never forget saying this in a church business meeting because We're growing sometimes the income wasn't enough to sustain the different ministers because truth be told if you have a church business Meeting and you have all the auxiliaries lined up the youth group the the the men's fellowship the women's all this stuff and these were worthwhile ministries Sometimes you don't have enough money to do all the things that you want and so you have to kind of prioritize certain things Okay, you have to people have there's folks that work at the church that they may need to get paid and so forth No problem with that and Paul says so not to muzzle the ox that part is Understood but if you're telling people to pay a tithe that was never instituted under What after Jesus Christ death bear in resurrection on the cross? Well, then we shouldn't do so now as a matter of fact if you just do a word search and type in tithe You're only gonna find it really in two places in the Bible and it's talking about how they did it and did it deceptively But giving yeah, we should give now that being said How should we give and guys here is the new scam Here is the new scam and that made me say hold up pump the brakes. Listen to what he's saying I want to see if you guys can catch the scam all the promises void it The scripture says if you're gonna do something by the law rather than doing it by faith Then then operating by the law makes your faith void and the promise unnecessary Could it be could it be could it be? Is it possible that your stance on the law of tithing? Is the reason why you can't get blessed? I know that made me sound like I'm just done lost my mind Now hold up before I continue Are you catching I know I want to play the glimpse of it? I know I'm only playing a glimpse of it, but have you are you seeing what his new scam is? I don't know if you are seeing it's not matter of fact. I'm sorry. I'm sorry. Let I let me push play again Let me rewind it back to the beginning. I really want you guys to see if you can begin to see the new scam And it is a scam it is without a and you know what you're right it The guilt factor is going to show up. It's how he's going to couch this guilt factor It's the new thing that's going on. So I'm a push play, but I'm going to rewind it back I want y'all to see it. I want y'all to see I want to start off by you do something by the law The scripture says if you're gonna do something by the law rather than doing it by faith Then then operating by the law makes your faith void and the promise unnecessary Could it be could it be could it be? Is it possible that your stance on the law of tithing is the reason why you can't get blessed Now before I get before I get into I just want you out of here again But now if he's talking about could it be could it be could it be that just stands on the law and tithing Is the reason why you can't get blessed or you're the one that talked in this Could it be that you're the reason if if what you're about to pose is true You're the reason why they they haven't gotten blessed. You're the culprit It's it's you But he's going somewhere with this guys. He is going somewhere with this I know that made me sound like i'm just lost my mind But if you do something by the law the promise is voided Now see the only thing that's got you a year right now because I've been teaching and everybody in the world been teaching forever on this traditional way of giving And wouldn't dare say what I just said Because they don't know what else to say because they don't understand grace based giving I know i'm right about it. Okay. First of all people have been teaching Our opposing tithes for some time You and your new revelation of grace. I don't know what you mean by grace based giving But you and your new revelation of grace is is a It's about 2000 years late because to be honest with you're about 2000 years late. Okay But he is I want y'all to hopefully you all are catching up and seeing what this where he's going with this. I think To me listen if if if I was a scammer. I'm taking notes. This guy this guy is good I've been believing this for a long time. I was just trying to figure out how to tell y'all Okay, I had to stop right there. I I don't mean to be one of these guys that start and stop but I've been knowing this for a long time. I just been me. Okay, either you're lying that you didn't know this for a while or Shame on you if you've been knowing this but been teaching it anyway So you're the culprit. You're the guy that's been guilting people. Okay, but now he is comparing the obligation to do so by the law First is doing it by faith now. Remember, he's a word of faith person He is brought up under the Kenneth Copeland's of the world Okay, who got there training from Kenneth Hagan? And so this guy is not renouncing word of faith because if he was not renouncing all of it He would have said so not just with ties, right? But let's continue If paul Is the standard by which the preaching of the grace is to be measured and judged Then we must examine what and mostly there are of his heart Y'all getting a chance to see my my my awesome editing skills That part was supposed to be edited out, but anyway, let's go ahead and continue. You could have gave 15% He gave a tenth of his spoils out of his heart There was no requirement for him to do it There was no law at that time for uptightening This was 400 years before the law was given 400 some years before the law was given So he didn't do it because he was required to like most churches to all teach us He did it Because it flowed out of his heart Because he started looking at what god has done And he said what can I do to bless he that has already blessed me and out of his heart Y'all see the new guilt trip now No, instead of obligation This compulsion. Well, I've done this. Well, first of all, you need to understand something Creflo dollar Is not a dummy He has recognized the problem. Here's the problem. Let's let's set this up The problem is I'm telling you guys how to be blessed. That's been his whole thing about being blessed And about calling things that are not as early were And about naming and claiming and decree and certain things that that's just that's his deal And having this faith to do so in this faith a little abundantly So what do you say creflo when when a devoted church member a loyal church Faithful church member has been doing what you've told them to do And they are still financially not blessed, but you are And you start seeing people starting to scratch their head. Wait a second. Let me add this up 2 plus 2 does not equal 36 There's a problem. So I've got to come back and say or else I'm going to lose some people I've got to say, well, you know what the issue isn't what I've been saying The issue has got to be The understand, you know what the issue is what I've been saying My understanding is a little bit off a little bit skewed And so I need folks to still have faith in me not faith in god But faith in me faith enough faith in me to continue to give to continue what you've been doing And so look at what he's saying now somebody like abraham who was giving who gave A tie to melchizedek did so out of his love and appreciation for god And so how you feel for god is going to compel you to how you get it's still guilt guys It's now instead of saying you guys aren't meeting your financial obligations by the books You're not you're not meeting it because you don't love god like you say you do That that's his point says I know I'll give a tenth of all of my spoils And with no law and no requirement he did it And then we took what abraham did and turned it and made it a part of the law of moses I am going to show you what jesus What through paul showed us Now by faith How do we give? Now by faith How do we give? And then by faith get the promise I could only teach at the time what I knew Now i'm I got enough boldness and guts to go against The flow of everybody else So You can only teach by what you knew and you didn't know this before but again, he's still talking about faith Faith Gotta love you so much. I'm give this money is still faith I'm because my my thing about ties it was working, but I don't and I don't know what his financial situation is I don't know what's happening Uh, if if if he's in a benny hen sort of situation where he's in a money crunch and we need more money. I have I have Not done well. I have not been a good steward of the money that I've stolen from these people And so I've got to come with another scam. I've got to do something. I've got to re I've got to guilt them a different way Uh, the jig is up. They they're on to me. I got to figure out something to do Um, because this 65 million dollar plane that I got it needs new tires The uh the staff uh to take care of this plane They're they're requesting a raise and And do you know how much jet fuel is if y'all think if y'all think that gas prices are high now Y'all should look at how much jet fuel is I listen it's it's gotten so bad. It has gotten so bad that I could only fly my plane twice a week That's how bad it's gotten so And the tithe money that you guys are giving because inflation is up and things are happening and so forth And y'all probably tithing off of the money that you that you get that you bring home where you're not tithing like you used to I've got to make you feel bad and the the tithing part that didn't make you feel bad But I can make you feel bad about uh in comparison to your love for christ and what he's done. And so Let's hear the new scam that mr. Dollar has a signal That What abraham did was nothing like that abraham tithe Out of his gratitude And and I don't even want to say tithe abraham gave 10 percent 10 percent abraham gave 10 percent He could have gave 20 Their places i'm gonna show you today where We say jewish people gave 10 percent jewish people gave them they had our most 14 different ties to give throughout the year They gave way more than 10 percent. We don't want to go around talking about I'm gonna give i'm gonna give god his 10 and the rest of it is mine. Don't you ask me for nothing else? so you see The guilt is now by faith and what god has done to give more Than 10 percent y'all didn't think that he was gonna let you off with just just give him 10 percent No, the the issue is because of what he's done like abraham as an example You need to give more Got no something wrong with that And we've been afraid to address the issue Because most people don't preach on money until they need some Okay Was that a fruity and slip? Did you just let the cat out the bag? Did you just tell us why you're all of a sudden now? preaching on this understanding of tithes and not just one week, but two three four weeks Because you need some money. I don't know. I'm just I'm assuming I have not been let into the meeting room to see what's happening, but it just You said it. I didn't we just heard it I've already made a commitment to depend on god to take care of me to respond by giving because it is a a a signal That I have made my mind up to trust god to take care of me Now here's what the lord said to me last week He said that your giving is a response to god's ability to take care of you Not giving so I can get more blessings to come in. I'm not giving so that everything will work right. I am giving Responding to a god who can take care of me spirit soul and body And finances and everything else Because he knows what I need when I needed how I needed how much I need My giving is a response to god's ability to take care of me It is my declaration of dependence on god Every time I give I am declaring god takes care of me You become more holy more Visibly dependent upon god. You show your appreciation. You show your trust and faith in god by giving more money That's your declaration god god god god is taking care of me So how can I not give matter of fact? How can I not give more? That's the new scam He did all he said was I'm just not going to call it ties and he even said so I hate to call what abraham gave a tie Well, it was called ties. I mean there's nothing wrong with the word tied The word tied is just a tenth and you can give a tenth of anything Okay, um, if I gave uh a tenth if I gave 10 percent of something is still a tenth now Is there an obligation? For me to give a tenth of what I bring in No Uh and the bible as a matter of fact, let's go ahead and you know what we have to do Let's go ahead and pull some scripts. Let's look at some scriptures that might get abused Luke 6 38 It says giving it will be given to you good measure pressed down shaken together running over will be put in Into your lap for what the measure you use it will be measured back to you Now is that just money? No, it's not. No, it's not. How do I know? Well, look what it says immediately before then it says judge not And you will not be judged condemn not and you will not be condemned forgiven. You will be forgiven Is that talking about money? No now is it possible that you could possibly apply that to money? Sure No, no problem, but whatever you give is coming back to you That's the point where there's judgment now if it's righteous judgment, guess what you're getting back righteous judgment if you're getting back this Self-righteous judgment. That's what you're getting back if you're getting condemnation If you're giving out condemnation, you're getting that back if you're giving out love Guess what you're getting back the same thing That's the whole point and so he says for with look what it says at the very end For with the measure you use it will be measured back to you This is not an issue that that that that people bring up sometimes to say it's about money and tithing No, that's not really what it's about. It's about what you put out Now they changed it, you know, they'll call it karma or whatever But This is a biblical principle. Okay, this is jesus speaking. Also you hear about About sowing and reaping by the way, we're gonna we're gonna cover Biblical sowing and reaping real soon, but look what he says that Oh, it's right one Therefore, I mean the point is this whoever sows sparingly will also reap sparingly And whoever sows bountifully will also reap bountifully night. Some of y'all have heard this Used as sort of a guilt trip guys. We need some money. So bountifully and you'll reap bountifully reap. What what am I going to reap bountifully? What am I going to sew? What am I going to sew bountifully that I will reap bountifully? Obviously you're saying so money And then I'm going to reap money bountifully back And churches do that and and they just shouldn't I believe this that if you are doing what you're supposed to do as a church God is going to make sure that that church is taking care Does that mean the church is always going to have a season of good and plenty? Not always sometimes Sometimes God would love to show how much you trust Trust him God may want to see how how you are going to now. He already knows But let's just see if you guys are going to be fiscally responsible How about that? And so that might be the issue, but let's continue He says each one must give as he has decided in his heart Not reluctantly under compulsion for god loves a cheerful cheerful giver now, let me say this If if you're right, I'm not I'm not saying karma is biblical. I'm saying other folks call that kind of principal karma So I'm not saying that it's biblical There are other titles and other phrases that are useful for what Jesus says which happens all time God will put a principal out and then someone will repackage and rephrase it. So anyway But notice it says each one of us must give as he has decided to give in his heart Now, let me say what I've talked and what I believe You give until you don't feel like giving anymore if you feel comfortable giving I don't know 85 dollars and you and that's a smile on your face. Hey man If 85 50 makes you frown then don't don't give 85 50 take 50 cent off because guess what god doesn't need He doesn't need your money. We'll be all right without you. We don't want you to have this issue this this this frown Where you know, you are You're grudgingly and he says don't give reluctantly or grudgingly If you can't give while smiling we don't do it And there are times where finance finances get in a certain way and you've got to make sure that This is to I never forget this one time where I was guilted into giving Thinking that god is going to turn around and bless as a matter of fact Let me give you the passage that was used to get to guilt to me This is the passage that was used to get to guilt me He says beloved I pray that all may go well with you and that you may be in good health As it goes well with your soul or another version says beloved I wish of all things that you prosper even as your soul Prosper in being health even as your soul prosperous So I'm thinking that god wants us to prosper god wants us to have all these things and so what did I do? I so also using this other passage I sold I so I listen I sold bountifully. I sold so bountifully that night I even sold the the the electric the electric money the electric bill money the light money I sold that bountifully too and a few days later. Guess what happened The electric company did not appreciate me sewing bountifully to that ministry did not appreciate one bit How do I know because when I hit that light switch That click is this is the switch broke? That's what I'm thinking the switch must be broke because the lord is not going to leave me out of here in the dark Meanwhile, my wife is sitting there looking at me with the baby in on an arm She didn't cuss and she didn't cuss me out But her eyes did Her her eyes her eyes were calling me all kind of name Um Words that you ain't supposed to say Words that christians ought not used and now she didn't verbalize it But it was just coming out of her eyes. You ever had that happen you where where someone just Just said a whole lot. I had a lot of nasty mean things to you with her eyes My wife looked at me Because the light bill that we had the money for Didn't go to the light company Well, that's just being foolish But I was young and I was stupid I learned a valuable lesson Learned a valuable lesson There are some ministries though so-called ministries that don't care about that They want you to give and to give I've heard people say give till it hurts Give and see they'll say things like this and this is true The one area that god has placed a challenge Try me and see if I if god won't open up a window in heaven and poor. Okay. Well All right Um, that wasn't for you but go ahead and try and see And that's the problem that creflo dollar. I believe is coming to grips with That people have tried god and tried him out to see the wait a second This ain't working out something's wrong and it ain't god Something ain't working right and it's not god creflo Just like uh, uh lucy's husband You got some explaining to do I've been given and given and given and given. I've been and I the only reason why I've been given pastor Is because I've been faithful I've been faithful and it hadn't worked out. So what gives here? Let me put some on the screen Let me put some on the screen because I I I need to address this I need to address this Let me go ahead and set this screen up real quick. Just give me give me a moment I need to set something up because some I just saw I've got to address this Or all right, there we go All right, let's go let's go to this passage that that I just saw someone put up and let's also deal with this Because it's going to get brought up For I the lord do not change Therefore, this is obviously malachi 3 6 for I the lord do not change there for you. Oh children of jacob Who's he talking to? I haven't even finished verse 6. Who's he talking to? Who is malachi in this passage talking to? Now before we before we continue Do I still uh, yeah, let me put let me put this on the screen so you all can see uh, this as well Do y'all see malachi? Over here on this screen now. We have these prophetic books Now, this is the order of things Who is malachi is a prophet during the restoration? Okay, he's a prophet during the restoration So you look over in the bottom right hand corner, so I just wanted you guys to see that That's a pretty cool little little guide right there. Anyway, so He's speaking to israel. He's speaking to jacob. That's what he says. Oh children of jacob. That's israel That's israel are not consumed from the days of your fathers. You have turned aside from my statutes and not kept them Return to me and I will return to you says the lord of hosts, but you say how shall we return? Will a man rob god yet you are robbing me But you say how have we robbed you in your tithes and contribution? You are cursed with the curse for you are robbing me the whole nation of you Is god talking about all of america? Who's this whole nation? He's speaking to he's speaking of israel One of the issues that we have and this is why people End up suffering under some of these ministries these so-called ministries because of their not reading scriptures and especially reading context And someone asked him time ago to describe or talk about Primary and secondary application. This is a this this is this cannot be applied to us. It's not he's literally speaking about that nation About that nation israel. Let's continue Bring the full tithe into the storehouse That's enough right what storehouse he's talking about. He's not talking about the church Into the into the storehouse that there may be food in my house And thereby put me to the test says the lord of hosts If I will not open the windows of heaven for you and pour out your blessings until there is no more need I will rebuke the devourer for you So that it will so that it will not destroy the fruit of your soil And your vine in the field shall not fail To bear says the lord then all nations will call you blessed for you will be a land of delight says the lord of hosts What land is he talking about and what nations are going to be talking about us? Well, this is israel That's the point guys Again when you when you miss apply passage or a text to something that has nothing to do with you You know what you might as well do then if that's the case If you want to start applying all these different texts to you then go find a banker Go find a mortgage company some lending company go find somebody March around it seven times and then shout See if see if the walls come falling down and then the bank vault opens up and there's money being blown right and then go get it So we cannot keep applying passages that have nothing to do with us He is speaking about this a bit disobedient israel and that's the point um Louis asked asked me that on on thursday when we do question and answers Um, I do have I do have to uh deal with that But by the way, he brought up tony evans Whose church I used to go to and even then I had an issue with this whole issue of tithes Because they would bring up tithes and like well that's not now I'm not saying if your church happens to teach tithes Um, is that a reason enough to lead? No, I don't think so now It can be a reason It can be One amongst many reasons if there's a constant flow of just bad doctrine being taught and that's one of them then yes I didn't leave because of that so but That being said, I'm gonna kick you off. I don't know what you said. Anyway, boo. I'm gonna kick you off I don't typically do the kicking off on here These people with these wrenches on here do the kicking off and they do a great job of maintaining Order. So anyway No, you and you're right chest chant you should not give a whole sermon on paying tithes Just say hey, we we're not going to do it and that's that and then keep it moving But your motives were clear Not yours, but mr. Uh, mr. Dollar your motives are clear Because you went and started speaking speaking about how they ought to give and how if they love god Like you love them and like abraham loved them. They will give a lot more and guys therein lies the problem It's not the old guilt game. It's a new guilt game It's a game that tells you that what you did or the way I taught you which is funny You guys been doing it wrong. Yeah, I know I taught you. I know I was going to tell you I know I was the one that was holding over your head, but you were wrong for that Yeah, you guys don't love god because you were doing it out of out of this obligation to the law How dare you do that? Yeah, I know I told you that but still how dare you I'm blaming you for what I told you to do Now I've got something new I want you to give more because if you give more you are going to demonstrate how much you love god How much you trust god how much you are thankful for god And how much you are dependent upon god and if god has taken care of you thus far Well, the more money you give obviously he is going to continue to keep taking care of you so Why do I believe that he has not repented that he doesn't I think the evidence is clear. I think it's clear that he doesn't care anything about I had some other video clips out. There's this one where I'm talking about these I forgot what it's called Prosperity pimps or preachers or pimps in the pulpit. I forgot but I'm talking but it's talking about how some of these folks are after money And it starts off with the guys the whole audience singing or saying chanting money coming to me and they're doing this little money coming to me now Some of these people deserve the creflo dollars of the world Some of these people deserve the bitty hands of the world some of these people deserve it The reason why is because you voluntarily place yourself in that place to where you know, these people are no good You don't you don't care about sound doctrine When the pastor of all these years says not so much the issue of tithing I've seen pastors change their mind on tithing But when you talk about this issue leroi thompson, there it is These people when you when someone your pastor is telling you that he's just now figured out this thing about grace I got to go. You know what? How in the world did you it's not it's not it's not even like the bible doesn't say The bible literally says for grace. Oh, you can do a word say them grace and it's all throughout the scriptures And you didn't get that But listen, so just like creflo dollar Is going to have to pay I don't mean financially I mean spiritually speaking if he does not repent Just like he doesn't have to he's gonna have to pay those people who frequent that establishment Who use god as a piggy bank? Who was a god? I need to get this I need to get that Who their favorite sermons if if all you kept doing was buying books and sermons about being blessed You're going to hell Yep, if that's all you ever bought that's all you ever wanted was just to get blessed You're going to hell. Why can't I say that how can I how that's a hard statement core? Because you weren't looking for the giver. You were looking for the gift You were looking for what he could do for you That's why He was not important. Jesus says y'all didn't come to me For the for the signs and the miracles that was good. No, you came to me You follow me because I fed you You followed me because what I could do for you and that's what we have today We've got people going to some of these churches based on what that church or that pastor can do for you or if they can help you Get something Been at churches where it was a meet and greet It was like a business social people passing cars and so forth and also passing phone numbers. Hey, baby Can you hook up later that kind of stuff happens to in some of these ungodly Undifficult churches and if you have this happening that church and obviously the money issue is going to be wrong By the way, notice notice notice when you look at some of these churches that have bad doctrine follow the money Follow the money Look look how off their giving is or how they compel you to give and how God has been so great and keep doing it Yeah, but all you people that are attending these places to get rich to get to get whatever you want from God You're going to get it You can give you what you're looking for you can get all the money you want in hell You can get all the nice cars and fancy all that you can get all in all that in hell You can have a nice paved rundown mansion in hell Because you looked after you sought for the things that God can give you Why don't you turn your attention to the other parts of the world and look and see the people Who don't have half of what we have they don't have ac They don't have laptops and iPads and iPhones and so forth. They don't have that But he said to me, yeah, they don't have pet dogs. They eat dogs. They're hungry So why don't you look and see where where where Christians are actually living out the gospel? They're not looking to get blessed. They're looking to make it to heaven. That's all they look for It's see you've got people who aren't even Christians who worship their God better than we do You got and they are evil people who would even kill themselves blow themselves up Because they they think that's the right thing to do out of devotion for their God, which is no God And then we can't we can't serve God just because of who he is what he's done All the things that he's brought us to no God. I need a few more dollars in my pocket I've had by listen. Let me say this I wasn't gonna I've had moments where It's tight I don't know if y'all know this I don't know if y'all know this but gas is expensive out there. Something. I don't know this Gas is gas is You would think they're importing gas from from the moon, but gas is expensive like what? Bread is expensive Milk is expensive I gotta I gotta get on my wife too because we're buying water And it's coming now. They're charging a lot for water to come out the faucet But we're going to buy some more water you do how much water is per gallon It's more than gas. It's it's ridiculous out there It's bad out there. And so there have been some times. Okay money is it's it's it's tight especially We we had a moment where all of our and I love it. I I'm not complaining, but all of our kids Had this had that had this had that now. We only got one kid that's not grown the rest of them are grown I'm not gonna get political David. I'm like I want to I I do want to when when we used to be Energy independent and so forth and we exported get but I Stop it. Don't get political leave that alone. But Things happen and the kids needed this because you're a parent forever The kids I drink tap water too I was kidding. Uh, the kids needed this and needed that or what have you my uh my Second to oldest we we begged and pleaded for her and her husband to kind of move Move in with us and and pull some money together because it's tough out there, right? And so we had to this remodel for this for the the west wing. Is that the west? Yeah, the west wing of the house is not a wing. It's not a big house And it cost a whole lot more than we wanted it to cost But immediately before that we had to send some money out for this and for that It's like wow, it's tough. It's it's it's it's tight Uh, what we eat tonight. What do we eat yesterday? Is there some more that scrape it together? We we eat in the remnants. We're eating the remnants of what we had yesterday death Some of y'all don't know what it's like to be poor But but check this out so things were kind of We weren't you know in the bread line like that a super line, but it was you know, it was tough Tight I shouldn't say tough. It was tight not tough tight Wasn't thinking nothing about it. Okay, because this what I know I have learned that God is going to take care of me Regardless, I've told you all before the problem that the disciples had when they were in the boat Is they didn't realize who was in the boat with them The wind in the waves are tossing them to and fro but Jesus is in the boat You all are frantic looking at the waves the skies all this But who's in the boat with you? I've been up been down all that time Though Jesus has been in the boat with me. I feel like preach. I think that's what I'm doing anyway But Jesus has been in the boat and so because the the balance in the bank wasn't looking like I wanted to look I don't care Jesus is literally in the boat with me. And so, huh I need to do this this child wants that this child doesn't this 15 year old doesn't understand anything about Credit cards or debt or bank accounts. Can I get this can I get that and she hadn't asked for much? Okay, fine, baby. We'll we'll see I go look at the count and guess what somebody did somebody decided Corey just because of what you do. Let me send you a little bit of money I don't I don't ask for money on here. I do not ask or not beg because God is going to take care of me. I I've been through some things I've struggled like Paul said I've been up in that I have learned to be content I don't need creflo. I don't need Benny. I don't need tv or anyone else telling me how much God is going to bless me I've seen how he blessed me I've seen all that and I don't need you to tell me what I gotta pay to get something from God He's already given me more than enough and some folks will say if he don't bless me no more anymore than I'm content Most folks don't don't mean it. I mean it and so to know this that no matter what happens I don't care what's coming at the door. I know before I get to that door God is going to do one or two things either take care of it or give me the strength to get through whatever's coming that way So I'm good and so there a bit there literally been times where a need was there Okay, something's gonna happen and bam and I did not ask why because he's in the boat with me And we've struggled I'm gonna tell you I just this this this is actually kind of disgusting This is actually kind of disgusting. This is where I came from Me and my brother chris Y'all know my I talk about my brother chris I call him an idiot and more and I can do that because he's my brother. I love my dad, but he's the dumb brother of the family He's the he's the one and we were a little I used to pee on the bed. I used to pee on him but We were poor when I say poor y'all you guys haven't been this poor I told my wife the story because she used to be poor. She said we were poor too. I said no, baby You wasn't this poor. We were so poor now some of y'all Every now and then you might be able to get the good cereal But usually growing up it was king vitamin You know kind that that the government give you it was it was not frosty flakes cornflakes And even then you know, you're doing bad when you came to get the kellox frosty flakes, which wasn't cheap. You got the cheap cheap white box with black letters Corn flakes I don't even know corn flakes was in the box. You had to trust by faith That corn flakes was the only thing in that box. That's how that that's how bad it was and so It was so bad And we I hated powder. I hated that little powdered milk. Oh That is from the devil I bind that Milk that ain't milk. I bind that powdered milk that you got to put that water I bind it in the name of Jesus. I don't even believe in binding, but I bind it. I rebuke you people that made that well Ask them good milk, right? Problem is milk costs money too and we're low on milk So that's what we do If we're that low on milk y'all y'all y'all pardon me that low on milk Whoever drank their got their bowl of cereal first You couldn't drink the milk, you know, I would like to drink the milk couldn't drink the milk No, put that milk in the bowl sit in the refrigerator when your brother come He got to put his cereal on top of that milk. Yep. That's how we that's how we got down That's hot listen and guess what guess what Now I was all I was used the first one But if I was second night, no big deal if I want that if I want that if I want that cereal If I want it's gross but that was back then you folks Paul you people are spoiled nowadays you people are spoiled. Y'all don't know how to live. That's what it is that ain't that As I was though and was grateful and so now I got air conditioning Got Wi-Fi. I got this laptop. I got I got this this uh colt sponsored cell phone When I got out I had I had an iPhone one It really wasn't iPhone one. It was like an iPhone five or six that I was grateful for that I am grateful what God can do And you could you can't get what some of y'all gonna some of y'all this is shouting right here You can't make me doubt them why because I know too much about them And so I don't need you to guilt me into doing anything I give gladly and serve gladly and because I do that I know I've got a place reserved for me in heaven And if I don't make if I don't live Or move the way I would like to with the brand new car and house and all that Doesn't matter. I know where I'm gonna be and that's gonna be with him and it came no money By that Amen