 Hi, we're here at ITU Telecom World 2013 in Bangkok, Thailand. Today I have with me Mr Fred Matiatanghi who is the Minister for ICT in Kenya. Minister, welcome. Good to have you here. Thank you. It's a very interesting event this year. We're concentrating so much on embracing changes in the digital world, of course. But what do you see as the biggest opportunities in that change for the industry? Thank you very much for having me. One of the greatest opportunities that the ICTs generally provide is use of technology and deployment of ICTs to improve lives, to transform the way we do business, to transform governance, to transform the way we provide services to our people. We've had long discussions here about how ICTs have been deployed in various parts of the world to improve service provision to the people, and our government have become more effective in the way they deliver services by deploying ICTs. We're having a big debate now on the deployment of ICTs in education, which is a very transformative way of life to many countries, not just countries from the developing world, but it's transforming lives across the globe. And it's a big opportunity for all of us to embrace ICTs as a way of transforming the way we do business in government and elsewhere in our lives. What challenges do you see coming with that opportunity? Well, one of them, of course, is the fact that in the deployment of ICTs, lives change for the better, but it causes also some other disruptions or some other issues. Cybersecurity has formed a big part of our discussion, for example. How much of freedom is good freedom, and how much information should be shared, and how do we protect ourselves? Certainly, of course, as we go forward, we're going to have to discuss cyber safety as a critical issue of managing the deployment of ICTs. Then there's a question of the digital divide. Is the deployment of ICTs improving our lives or improving economies across the board, or the digital deployments are depending the marginalization? So that in urban areas around the world where the infrastructure is good and much more effective, you deploy ICTs better and therefore you move to the digital platform faster. But in areas where infrastructure is not developed, most of rural parts of Africa, they take time to migrate to the digital platform, and therefore the gaps in development in economies exist and are dependent, so that the digital divide actually is threatening and causing new challenges in the way in which we look at the deployment of ICTs. That's an interesting challenge you're talking about there, but what do you think will be the big differences and big changes going to make to your economy, particularly in Kenya, when we get to this digital embracing of the digital services? Provision of services is going to improve tremendously. In Kenya, for example, we are hoping that in the next five months, we are going to move away completely from a use of cash in the public sector. All public sector payments are going to be digital. This transforms lives. We may be able to deal with revenue leakages, we may be able to deploy resources much better, and our services faster if we go that way. In the education sector, for example, we're moving most of our education content to the digital platform, which means that we'll provide greater access to educational content and educational services are going to be more available to broad sections of the country. And many other services, we are hoping to radically transform the provision of services to the people by deployment of ICTs because already in the country we are creating one-stop service centres where we deploy ICTs to provide services, for example, in registration of persons, in giving people identification documents, driving line services and so on. So we see the deployment of ICTs as a huge opportunity for us to improve service provision in our country. And coming to events like ITU, Telecom, World, what are the biggest benefits for you? What do you get out of an event like this? The greatest benefit is an opportunity to compare notes, an opportunity to share experiences. I have had occasion to meet here with colleagues from countries that have deployed ICTs in a much more aggressive and expansive manner than we have done in our country. We have experiences to learn from. We have challenges that we can draw lessons from. I have spent time with colleagues who have deployed ICTs in education much better than we have done in Kenya. And I have learned a lot about approaches and perspectives and where to invest, where to put resources in terms of deployment of ICTs, what is critical to do in the deployments and so on and so forth. So the greatest opportunity for this particular event is to enable us to share experiences, learn from those who have done it before. And most importantly, of course, look at some of the new technologies that are being deployed across the world and what has worked, what has not worked. We are, for example, having conversations on establishment of smart cities. We've had opportunity here to meet with colleagues who have worked on the establishment of smart cities. And it's been very enriching to learn from the experiences, how they have engaged with investors, how they have engaged with strategic financiers for smart cities, what investors would be interested in, what are the strategic things to do and so on. It's been very, very enriching and very useful for all of us. Well, it sounds like you've made the best of ITU telecom world. We wish you the best in your endeavors with ICT in Kenya and I thank you very much for being with me today. Thank you so much for the opportunity. Thank you for having me and all the best. Thank you.