 So he ended up getting out. I went and found him myself. When I looked at him, I was like, damn. The nigga look just like me. Like a ghost. But hold on. So when did you tell your mom that you were inquiring about him or that you even found him or anything at all? After I had already found him. And met him face to face? Yeah. What was her reaction? It was just kind of like a aqua silence. And then we kind of just like bristled up in the road. You know what I mean? Like just being honest. Because I mean, shit, I was already a man at the time. I had a baby on the way at 17. So I was doing my thing already. How old were you when all of this transpired? 18. 18. Yeah, we on boss talk, one on one, one on one. Yeah, we gonna talk. We bringing a little bit of different twang to it. You know what I mean? Like we don't. We mixing hip hop and country. She digging my spurs and my white teeth. As she saying my words and nagging like me. Got a brand new truck, hollywooder G. Cowboy, boss, I'm a beast mode. You can't even say that because DJ chose just said that he branching off into the country because his alter ego is what's his other name? Norman West. Got to forgive me to simply. Norman West. My buddy, I'm on it. So he's branching off into that category. And he actually doing straight country. Right. You know what I mean? And what I do is, it's just me. It's my lifestyle. You know what I mean? It's not something that I'm trying to do is who I am. I'm a rapper by horses. I'm a rapper by my life to struggle to come up. You know what I mean? Being at the NFL and being in the trenches with my guys and riding horses down the Boulevard. You know what I mean? So. Okay. So let our audience know a little bit about you. Can you say you're rapping about all these things but we want to hear about these things right now. Like where you were raised. Cause you were raised in Houston you said. Yeah, Southside. Southside. When were you introduced to horses? Your mom and dad were you raised with both parents? How many siblings you have? The whole works. Go ahead. All right. So I come from the Southside of Houston. Raised by my mama. I didn't meet my father until I was like 18. You know what I mean? Why? Yeah. He was locked up. Okay. The whole time from. I never even knew who he was. She never told you? Nah. Did she know? Yeah. Just check him cause some women don't. Yeah. Okay. So how did she tell you and, or did he just come find you and say I'm your daddy? I found him. But so who told you he was your daddy? My godmother. Okay. You went to her asking her? Nah. So like you said, I'm an interesting dude. Okay. Tell me the story. Back then I used to do tattoos. And I was doing my honor tattoo. She was like, what? How do you get to the more you look like that man? Like I don't look like nobody. You know what I'm saying? Cause I ain't look like my mom or nobody in my family. She was like JP. And how I find him. She was like, when your uncle called you, they asked him about him. Which my uncle was currently incarcerated for a murder case. Okay. And he was gone for like 20 years. And this is your mom's sister? Yeah. I mean your mom's brother, I mean? Nah, this was the guy. The godmother's brother. Okay. So when he called him, I'm like, hey man, you know what I'm saying? Who is JP here? He kind of laced me up. He was like, we'll talk about it later on. When I get out, I'm like, you in jail for a murder. Right. I'm talking about it. You know what I mean? And so just so happened he was getting out two weeks later. Wow. That's why he said that. It was around Christmas and he came home. I found his people before he came home. I looked just like him. Oh, so he was getting out two weeks later? Yeah. Oh, your dad? So how did you know that he was getting out two weeks later? How did you find that out? My uncle finally told me. Oh, he went on and told you? He was like, yo man, locked up, wo, wo, wo. So he ended up getting out. I went and found him myself. And when I looked at him, I was like, damn. Then he looked just like me. Like a ghost. But hold on. So when did you tell your mom that you were inquiring about him or that you even found him or anything at all? After I had already found him. And met him face to face? Yeah. Then what was her reaction? It was just kind of like a aqua silence. And then we kind of just like bristled up in the room. You know what I mean? Like just being honest. Cause I mean, shit, I was already a man at the time. I had a baby on the way at 17. So, you know, I was doing my thing already. So how old were you when all of this transpired? 18. 18. Yeah. What did your dad say to you for the first time when you saw him face to face? Shit, he looked at me like I looked at him like, damn. He looked just like me. Oh, really? Yeah. Shit was, it was, he kind of tried to make up for, you know what I'm saying? Not being there and shit, but. How, how do you make up? You can't make up. It ain't no making up from that. But at the end of the day, you. But he was locked up though. So it's not like he had a choice at that time. Yeah, but he knew. So he's saying he could have, no, but you living with your mama, he couldn't just call you. Or write you? Man, we, I'm from the same neighborhood where that man grew up at, you know what I'm saying? They could have reached out to me some kind of way, you feel me like. But he probably didn't feel comfortable doing it, man. He might have felt like it was better. He didn't even reach out to you so that you could just be who you are. And what if I feel like it was better if I didn't meet him at all? It didn't have, would have been cool. He probably would have moved on. Cause you, you the one when found him, he probably would have left you be. Yeah, I'm just saying, you know what I mean? Like, but it was, it was a blessing because like I was always curious why I had curly hair, why I was like skinning and my people was dark, you know what I mean? What did he say to you? Like, like he talked to you for about an hour or so or did he give you a day or what did he tell you? I mean, I locked in with him because like I wanted that bun, you know what I'm saying? So when he got out, I made sure I took him a little bit. You know what I'm saying? It was shit. I pick him up every day. Let's go do this, do that. He's at the halfway house or something? Nah, he was out, complete. He had done this 14 years and came home. Wow. Yeah. Did you, do you have a relationship with him now? So, so, like I called a check on him. You know what I'm saying? Just to make sure he all right. You have all the brothers and sisters on his side? Nah. Nah. Is it you the only son? On him, yeah. You're the only child with him? Yeah. That's probably, he probably don't know what to deal with it at when he was dealing with young. You gotta realize, man, me and B insecure in situation, they won't even say nothing. You know, we, we cave me in. You know that. And he comes from a different generation where you don't talk about certain things. You know what I mean? And then he'll, There's no excuse though. Nah. There's no excuse, but what can change him? And I learned that, I learned that from, I see it. From my husband is the fact that if you every day call him and say, I love you, even if you don't get, I love you back. You know, or just being there for him, you'll start to see his gradual opening up. But the difference is that you don't know how he was when he was younger. You can only hear stories from people around him like how he used to be. You know what I mean? You think you know? Cause he's still doing the same shit. Yeah, but you still with forgiveness, you can change anything. Yeah. I forgive him and I love him to death. You know what I'm saying? But like, I can't change his situation until I change my own situation. Correct. There you go. There you go.