 There's some people have asked the question of you know the way forward and there are people who are asking the question about What is the way forward in Kashmir you think? It's difficult question. No, no, no, it's not a difficult question. It's not a difficult question It's actually an easy question. You know for nine years. I worked behind the scenes with Prime Minister Manmohan Singh with Mr. Chitambaram With Jairam Ramesh and a large number of people and we worked silently on Jammu in Kashmir When we started in 2004 Terrorism was rampant in Jammu in Kashmir by the time we finished in 2013 I went back and I hugged the Prime Minister and I told him that you know One of your biggest successes is The end of violence in Jammu in Kashmir in 2013 We had basically broken the back of terrorism in Kashmir and we hadn't done it by giving big lectures and big stories We hadn't done it by giving big lectures and stories. We had done it silently. I'll tell you how we did it We did it by holding panchayati Raj elections We did it by linking Women to banks Self-help groups We did it by running a program Of getting young Kashmiris young people from Jammu in Kashmir and Ladakh Employment in other parts of India Bringing corporates to Jammu in Kashmir having conversations like like this with them and building their confidence In fact the the bodyguard who I went I went to Jammu in Kashmir is standing right here And my way of measuring progress. I had two metrics one metric was How many Commercial flights are coming into Jammu in Kashmir Because the more commercial flights the more tourism the more people are comfortable the better we're doing and The second was how close these guys stand to me So if these guys are standing like all around me We're not doing well, and if they're sort of loosening up a bit. We're doing well so we went from practically no planes To 50 planes and I remember one day in 2013 When I was looking around and I was like where are my security guys and they had like actually loosened up so much and There was crowds all around me hundred hundred two hundred people and having a conversation. I went back there in 2014 and this gentleman was there with me and This gentleman These are his words not mine Let's get out of here right now Otherwise, we're going to be in serious trouble right what happened between 2013 and 2014 August I'll tell you Our strategy Was to close the space for terrorists in Kashmir. We basically went in there and Said young Kashmiris have two options They can either be pro-India. They can be against India. Let's close the against India space Let's find every little space we can find Which is not pro-India and shut it down and We took us nine years Panchayati Raj elections suddenly the Indian Government landed up right in the village We had Pradhan sitting in the village managing budgets of a coror Informing us exactly who the terrorists were students going To Bombay to Karnataka coming back and saying you know what? Actually, there's opportunity here So we gave the kids in Jammu and Kashmir a vision and it was working and then in 2014 the Indian government did something that Inflicted a huge huge strategic cost in India essentially There are four political parties in Kashmir There's the BJP on the extreme right There's the Congress Nationalist there's the national conference There's the PDP there's the Huryat and then there's Terrorists in Pakistan the PDP was the instrument that brought young Kashmiri youngsters into the political process and The day Mr. Narendra Modi Made an alliance between the PDP and the BJP He destroyed the PDP as an instrument That could bring youngsters into the political system and the day he did that He massively opened up space for the terrorists in Kashmir and they came in and you saw a massive increase in violence The intelligence guys themselves in Jammu and Kashmir told me that large numbers of the PDP Have suddenly gone Towards the middle militants when you take these strategic decisions To take a little bit of political advantage You do tremendous damage to the country Today Jammu in Kashmir The space in Jammu in Kashmir has been opened up Not only for the Pakistanis For other players in the region And it is going to impose a massive massive strategic cost in India Just one small decision So when you go into the details of these things The answers are not complicated You talk to people You give them hope you give them a vision. It doesn't matter who they are Whether they're from UP Kashmir anywhere They will engage with you you build trust with them. They will engage with you. It's not complicated The reason it doesn't doesn't happen Those are complicated You want to ask the next question Think we've gotten quite a few questions, but what amazed me, you know, sorry This I'm passionate about this because because for me the Jammu Kashmir question is A very important question for our future. You know what amazed me Was nine years of work Going there talking to people nine years 30 days destroyed 30 days And it just it blew my mind. I was so sad. I was like my god nine years And it can just be wiped out in 30 days