 The so it's undeniably or alien slimy Yet anyone's lying to you. They if they say as cargo is not slimy like it's definitely slimy So like the texture is what I could see like a lot of people not liking about it the flavor of it It's really good like especially if you like salty things. It's it's like it's like that fry level of salty It's really good. I'm not a big seafood guy, but I've had quick clams and oysters before and Lobster is really fucking good, but I mean nobody can forget it Well not when gas is going up like seven times in price, but we don't talk about that right there. There's there's no problems Rises are not rising. Everything's normal. It's okay It's all Putin's fault Okay, like Joe, I'm sure you're a good guy I mean you like 90 years old you probably should retire, but I'm just gonna say The shit was going on long before the Ukraine nonsense, but I'm just good. Well, I mean the the hilarious thing is We're gonna blame Something that has nothing to do with us here on the economic thing And no one's talking about the fact that we just printed like 40% of our money like For the past two years. Yeah Come on. Come on, man. And his and his response was hey, let's print some more money. Oh Level of stupidity like that's not the way economics works like I really appreciated that, you know Whatever it ended up being like $4,000 or whatever. They said I like that was really nice But now we're kind of reaping the benefits of that Well, I mean like the fun the funny thing is is like it's weird like it's weird that we seem to be Like having our major like the major people in power are also the same types of people who Never paid attention in like high school economics class like they were just they either like didn't pay attention Or they just never had it because I'm not like I'm not super smart with economics at all But I'm pretty sure pretty sure that no matter how you go about doing it printing more money destabilizes the money Kind of makes sense I understand why why they did it like I understand and it was probably a good idea at the time to give people money Well, nobody was able to work because of a pandemic, but you got to be honest about it now You know I mean and work to fix it now instead of well raw raw everything's okay We're working on it. We're working really hard on it like no just be honest about it And we're gonna get through this, you know, you don't go into a tornado disaster zone and say yeah, everything's perfectly fine That wasn't an F5 that just worked through it was just a stiff breeze, you know He just We're it's just so fucking stupid. Why can't we are I should just say this we are live by the way I'm gonna put that out there before we say something we don't want to say but why can't we get a good president like There has to be at least one out there, right We've just gone through a series of I mean I think it's a controversial statement to say if you live in the US It's kind of upsetting to have somebody who is Genuinely not mentally fit to run a country like Usually like we've had bad presidents before but usually they're like one-offs, you know, they just show up for four years You know one of them died in office, you know Yeah, cuz he didn't work now. We've had like bad but just like different versions of bad Yeah Completely It's so fucking stupid like Like as you'd say you want to move to Canada, but Canada is not much better anymore Like wait, no, you can't escape idiocy Anyways, it doesn't that's that's about as much politics as we're ever gonna talk on the podcast So if you if you're tuning in don't worry about it. There's not we're not gonna make it about that If we could get some yeas or nays in the chat on whether or not this is the audio is good. We'd appreciate that Just just let me know how bad my audio is Surprisingly your lips your your lips Yeah, you're you're surprising your lips are in your audio are in sync last night on your your stream. There's I Was shouting hey FBSD so damn good. Why can't the audio be in sync? Well funny enough I figured out why oh did you? Yeah, so the Brio works Just fine here and that's what I was using as my webcam But the Brio has this weird issue where no matter what getting audio in sync with it is More difficult because when I first are using it it seemed like it fixed the like audio being out of sync just by itself But turns out whenever I live stream using the Brio the audio is just like it's just way out of sync like way out of sync No idea why It could also be something to do with Jitsie too, but we won't talk about that. Okay, cuz Jitsie's great The the hilarious thing is we just talked about how good it was and then you you froze on screen So good That's fantastic Here goes discord Yeah, so for those of you who are watching live just know that if the stream goes away It's because I lost power. There's about 30 mile an hour wind out there and their branches and shit flying around So if I lose power and it doesn't come back The podcast will just be over unfortunately, so we're gonna try to get through this and hopefully Electricity stays here. But anyways We're gonna go ahead. I think And get started. Otherwise, we'll just hear more about politics for ages just hilarious because Don't think me and you have this would be probably our first time ever really ever talking Talking even remotely about politics I can't stand talking about politics with anyone and it doesn't matter whether or not they agree or disagree with me because most of The time I couldn't fucking give a shit We'll see. I here's the thing I can talk about politics as long as you don't care like Like I might have an opinion, but I don't care like that's people people get so attached to everything like I'm sorry, but what for the most part what the president does doesn't affect people in their day-to-day lives and The things that he does he does and the Congress does that do affect you is so, you know minuscule for the most part you can't let your Hatred for whoever's in office rule your life You know you have to move on and do your daily shit It's not and there's the thing of not have an opinion, but can't do anything about it. So who cares like well, then I She has been broken for Ages like every generation bitches about how politicians are horrible Yeah, there's there's never been one government where people go. Oh, it's perfect. It's a stereotype for a fucking reason You know That's the way it works The problem with having lots a really big freakin water bottle is that it has a you know a tendency to spill all over your shirt Which is hilarious exactly what you wanted to be for you do a video podcast Funny thing is I was just looking at the show notes and I read for some reason I read like, you know what what you like what you put in the show notes for what you've been doing this week I read that as like what I wrote. So I was very confused for a split second because I went wait. Hold on I didn't realize switched Then it hit me I'm like, oh my god, dude, you need to get some You need to stop drinking and definitely not have that happen again last night Cuz I genuinely thought I was like, wait, why did I write that? Jean yeah, we'll stop talking about politics now. I'm sorry Probably scared like half of the people away over there. Yeah talk about politics the whole time I'm this is the Linux cache. I'm not here to talk about listen to politics if you want to do that listen to CNN I don't know why we're all redneck there at the end Now I've offended everybody below the Mason Dixon line I am a redneck and I don't think well, I don't know about redneck I don't I don't go hunting with my cousins in Camo on the weekend. I have the opportunity So I mean I might as well be considered a redneck I mean all it takes is me accepting my cousin's offers and then I am redneck. I Don't think the redneck accent is like a bad thing at all. I don't think it's actually kind of funny Hilarious But I don't judge people based on their accents because apparently I have an accent But I don't really realize it, but I just think I sound normal Like I think you do I Guess I'm from Michigan. We don't have like we have the boss the Baston. We're not in New York is We don't say y'all all time We're like the most boring accent in the world. We sound normal It sounds white I love the Boston accent man. It's just it's so funny baston baston Bastion axie. Yeah, I can't do it. I'm so bad either You got to get the Irish in there, but you gotta it's also something. It's it's I don't know I can't do accents. You don't want to there goes the freaking lights again. Oh Oh About that oh Oh, it was just it was just a flash so hopefully the internet says alright Let's get started on this if we can actually get some of the podcast in before this actually dies Okay, you got the audacity thing up going radio Hold on No, I do not Okay, now I do Okay Loaded up and apparently I loaded up a different program called I've loaded up on a different workspace and I open it up. Like what is it odd? What is it all door or whatever? I don't know something. That's not audacity. Oh, it's audio CTL I tried opening that did it that's a terminal program. It will Okay, I'm gonna go ahead and hit the record button in audacity Record button in OBS and you can do the claps and every like All right three two one So much better with video that one we would have video. I'm just gonna keep remembering how bad that was. All right Oh, trust me TFL sent me his audio without video and I was like, whoa Good not easy Like I don't know I don't remember how I did it so much with Martin. It's a lot of practice in time. I Think I didn't care as much, you know, because we didn't do any video at all make neither one of us had videos, so you know Who cares if you couldn't say the limps the limps. What the fuck is wrong with me? I Had a stroke or something like Lips as a word is just off limits for you today It's lips matte lips these things these fervor II things on your face Good lord, this is gonna be if we get through this podcast without the lights going off It's gonna be it's gonna be one for the memories Because because I'm having word association problems. All right Let's go ahead and get started Hey everybody, welcome back to Linuxcast I'm your host Matt And I'm Tyler. Yes, he is and this is the Linuxcast we talk about Linuxy things now One things that you should know before we get started too far into this thing is that we're having very high winds outside my house probably better than having high winds inside the house, but Not much better. Anyways, the lights have dimmed. So if you notice the podcast just ends It's a short podcast because there's no more electricity and unfortunately I don't have like a you know a backup generator or anything like that And even if I did the the internet wouldn't work, right? So anyways But just FYI if that happens, I'm knocking on some wood, but they've already done dimmed once more since we started, you know talking anyways So Tyler My friend my bud. What have you been doing on Linux this week? Well Since since it has to be what I've been doing in Linux. I did try fedora this week and by try fedora I mean when I was having all my For anybody who watches my channel, I talked about how I was having some Issues with open BSD in it. I'm really utilizing my motherboard and headers and stuff And so when I was having all those issues, I loaded into fedora for like five minutes and Checked to make sure everything was working fine and it was But also I'm not keen on Using fedora like I don't have any problems with fedora at all, but Going back to Genome and or just fedora in general Love open BSD. I'm that's what I did in Linux this week. I'm happy that you've discovered a home in BSD I'm sad that it's not Linux because it makes me sad because it feels like you're abandoning the brotherhood I have not left the hood yet. Okay, I still come home. All right I'm still I'm still in the hood occasionally, but you know, I leave You're the college student that only comes home because mom still does his laundry You're home just long enough for the load to finish and then you're back off to wherever you need to go I love that analogy just going home for the laundry Okay, anyone who's ever lived on campus like as in a you can in university I guarantee every single person has done that that you know has that opportunity to do so like first of all Doing your own laundry in a college dorm just fucking Fucks. It's so bad Because you have got to stay there and watch the thing. Otherwise you come back your clothes are either gone Or they're spread all over the place because somebody's a douchebag, like you know, it's just always gonna happen. All right, I Have a proposition For you in terms of change to the podcast normally we would talk about this off the air But instead of saying why have you been up to in Linux this week? Let's just say what have you been up to in Unix this week? And the girl from Jurassic Park can be our mascot. Oh, it's Unix. I know this I Have had that posted so much so much It was funny when it came out Like it was funny when it happened and now it's still funny like, you know, okay, so for me That way what I'm doing now can also be considered. You know Linux, but so a Few months ago. I talked about how I was switching away from Android to iOS It's something I do every two or three years And just so I can kind of keep up on, you know, how good each of the platforms are and I Didn't make it two or three years just because iOS is just I mean it was it has some good points like the applications on iOS are For the most part better than on Android better design better functioning for the most part. It feels that way Outside of that though. God notifications are so bad on iOS. They're just so bad I can't even explain how bad iOS notifications are They do have like actionable notifications now, which is something that they've had, you know, I've had for a while But they're only actionable when they pop up So once they disappear into your notification shade You can no longer do anything with them other than dismiss them And they had this weird like bifurcation of recentness on their note in their notifications shade So some of them are below a cut where you can delete all of them Like you can just miss all of them. Some of them are above the cut where you have to delete them one by one like What that doesn't make any sense at all when I have 400 notifications, I just want to get rid of them. Oh, I don't give a shit. What's in there? Like it could be death notifications. It could be amber alerts. I don't care. Just get rid of it There's too many of them to go through. It doesn't matter. I don't want to know any of this stuff Just get rid of them. That's something none of us. None of us would I don't think would say with that much confidence But we all know that we all agree If you've had an amber alert just no one cares I'm sorry, but I'm not gonna see the gray gray sedan. I'm just first of all if it's an amber alert You've heard that thing sound off. We've already heard it like I looked at it already Second of all if it's a death notification and you text message me that somebody died What the fuck? Auntie's dead. Oh, no I mean Like that's this generation for you had probably it's probably gonna have emojis I'm gonna live in a world where people like your close relative die and you get a notification with an emoji in it Like you come on. No, it's just like So anyways the notification that went I Don't even know where that way Anyways, the notifications and I also just really bad and there's a few things that we're just driving me nuts with the iPhone Now one thing I will say is that the iPhone hardware is fantastic like Apple If we could play Android on the iPhone that'd be spectacular because the hardware is really really good But anyways, I ended up switching back to Android. I ended up with a like I used Galaxy s21 and Yeah, Android is so much better in terms of like notifications and stuff. There are a few applications. Did you sell your iPhone? No, it's still right here. Okay. Okay. No, no Because I know eventually I'm gonna have the urge to switch back to iOS again Just to see if it got better if I keep this I can just put my SIM card in it and say hey It still sucks come back to Android, you know And honestly, I had that plan originally, but I ended up I had two Android phones I had the one plus six and one plus 70 But I ended up giving them to my mom and dad because their iPhones went to shit So I couldn't just put my SIM card back and the Android phones that I had so I ended up having to buy a new one but This time so you mean to say that you had people that you know that have iPhones at aged and Bit the dust Yeah like there was there are like iPhone 6's or whatever and Like my dad keeps really good care of his phone and it's like whatever. I mean he drops every once in a while But like a normal person my mother She does not keep good care of her Like I mean she has really like what I mean obviously nobody cares about this But she has like a really dry skin so she always using like hand cream and when you use like hand cream I'm like one of those phones that gets gunky. She never cleans it. So it's really bad and The like the iPhone 6 and 6 s whatever were not water resistant whatsoever. So that stuff was all over the place It was not good And you used it for a while and I got like to felt like it was gonna catch on fire So it was it was time for something new So it's probably like cocoa butter just like all up in that phone. Yeah, it was not good Anyway, so yeah, I switched back to Android and I'm happy again. So Moving on to the contact information if you'd like to get a whole of us that you could do so it I don't even know what to talk about I really need to go through and redo this because this is obviously in totally the wrong order You can contact us via pretty much everything at the links cast org slash contact the links cast org is the website Where you'll find blog posts that I'd never update you can find links to our most recent episodes which is like True three episodes behind because I have not been updating it because Forget yeah, I know I can't even blame laziness and I just forget about it. Um, but anyways, I'll try to keep that updated better Anyways, you can also support us on patreon on patreon.com slash linux cast. You can subscribe to Tyler on YouTube who goes by zany at youtube.com slash zany og You got called on distra tube yesterday. So did you get a few new subscribers? I did I did cool. Yeah, and we out. We also have quite a few people who have now joined the irc even though I'm not in there right now Again, someone had some crashes happened right before I started live streaming last night and then I lashed off like a most entire jar of moonshine. So I kind of didn't do anything this morning like Maybe tried to not really get out of bed until like 20 minutes before the podcast was even supposed to happen It was a it was a rough morning to say the least Maybe just a half of the jar of moonshine next time Hopefully less Anyways, you can subscribe to the linux cast at youtube.com slash the linux cast As you can tell we are not very interested in staying on topic today This this is gonna put that out there, but it's okay if you've listened to the podcast before you'll know that this is not a new phenomenon This is something that goes on quite often Anyway, so tyler every single week we scour the internet for breaking news And this is the only place in the world that you'll ever hear see this news. It's very timely And uh, and it's definitely not You know Well, I mean, it's definitely it's definitely relevant. I can't even fucking talk. You don't I was gonna go for a lead in It didn't it doesn't matter for some tyler your news. What the fuck is your news? Look, so I have scoured the internet. I have found the most delicious the most juicy the most No, it's secretive information. So did you know that linux mint It's going to be based off of ubuntu for the next release man shocker Same I actually believe that I read so the title of this article is linux mint 21. Vanessa will be based on ubuntu 22.04 new upgrade tool in the works I did not read past the Ubuntu part like I didn't read the 22.04 and all the rest of the title and I was I just read it as that And I was like what duh who wrote this article exclusive Exactly like wow shocker But um, they are so linux mint is working on a upgrade tool that I I thought they already had a decent upgrade tool, but um, apparently they are Trying to like make a much more Um full-featured graphical version. So um It's going to be uh, they're going to have in this upgrade tool localization in various languages. Um, they're going to go they're going to do some adding of the ability to perform more checks to ensure the upgrade process goes smoothly specifically with ppa's and stuff like that So yeah, oh makes sense makes sense Um, and then they also want to preserve the user's choice of mirrors Which I like, um, that's actually solid Now granted This is something that I will say with linux mint And I definitely want to talk about this with you mint Is it is it insane of me to to think that Isn't there already like pretty good upgrade tools for ubuntu I like linux mint. Okay, so I don't know about ubuntu because ubuntu I just always use the terminal but For linux mint, they do have an upgrade tool, but I don't know what it looks like. I'm pretty sure that it's also when the terminal I think that's the reason why they're using it doing a gooey now. Uh, Also, it's pretty bare bones from what I remember Um, now you're gonna remember Not the biggest linux mint person in the world. So obviously I've never stuck around on on ubuntu long enough to actually or linux mint long enough to Actually have to do this But I know people who have and their experience has been mostly basically the same as it used to be on ubuntu but The point is is that this one here One of the things that you experience on all ubuntu based distros when you use ppa's Is that those ppa's are signed for specific versions of ubuntu? So if it's not for groovy gorilla and you're on groovy groovy gorilla, you know, you uh It won't work right none of your software will be able to be updated the ppa's will be broken That's one of the reasons why the ppa suck right is because they're always they're attached to that version of ubuntu And they use groovy gorilla because that's the only ubuntu name that I can pronounce Yeah, and I was about and that's why I was laughing when you said it because oh my god Like just you say ubuntu like names just out of context and just like what are you talking about, man? Nobody knows what the word her sweet means. Okay, if you're even if that's even how you pronounce her her sweet ippo um Yeah, I don't know what the one for 22.04 is gonna be but i'm sure i think it's gonna be really bad um But that's that that's that's kind of their thing is to choose really bad names That's the reason why I loved groovy gorilla because groovy gorilla was a freaking good name, you know Yeah, you could say it it was even of Well, I was gonna say even they even had a good wallpaper, but no that wasn't a good wallpaper. That was the harry ball's one I mean it's true. Everybody looked at it like oh those are harry balls I mean Game over It's just true I I envy the person who just came into the stream and all they heard was matt just go harry balls Well, it's better than the way the stream started out when we were talking about politics I mean basically their equivalence harry balls politics All right, anyways Honestly, i'm quite happy for this upgrade tool, but i'm also happy that it's coming to lmde first So it's gonna be coming to they're gonna roll it out to lmd4 so you can upgrade to lmd5 and um I'm gonna say this because I always say this when we're talking about linuxment linuxment. Please just get rid of a boom too just Do the debiant thing it make everybody really happy just You don't need a boom too nobody nobody needs a boom too anymore. Okay, see nowadays like Just canonical is not making decisions. That's in the best interest of anyone that's basing off of them like if you're canonical sure like Yeah, you're making decisions that benefit canonical, but Uh No one really wants snaps out of the box like you might want to snap But you don't like no one's really excited. Oh, yeah, my distro support snap out of the box. Yes Like no, I don't I don't think anyone wants that At least partially I don't think many people are trying to jump and trip over like trying to get to snaps Okay, here is the workflow between Debian ubuntu and linuxment. So Debian creates their thing. They've always created it. It's been around for 30 years Okay, 31 years whatever it's been along for around for a long time Ubuntu takes debian makes ubuntu Put snaps in it does all their stuff to it linuxment takes ubuntu takes all the stuff that linuxment or that ubuntu has done to it makes it debian again calls it ubuntu And basically what they're doing is debian anyways, but they call it ubuntu I mean, I know that it's more complicated than that because obviously I like some ubuntu repos and stuff like that, but They've pulled out The only thing that has made ubuntu ubuntu, which is snaps. They've pulled it out. It's gone Like you can't even they like if you try to install snaps on on linuxment. They tell you hey, don't do that I respect that what I want them to do is say are you all Of course, buddy. That was the greatest beep ever. I was just about to swear and it was like That's great. Anyways, I don't want to bitch about linuxment too much longer. Let's go ahead and move on to mine It's bitch about fedora buddy Come here, buddy Our mailman's here You're your dog would chase after the mailman my dog would chase after cars She does not like white cars like at all like she'll ignore every color car except for a white car Or whitish car and everyone she's like, oh Like I don't understand. It's really weird Anyways, that's the one that worries me like when they chase after cars because I'm like, oh, I don't no don't leave Because the mailman's only gonna go so far. He's gotta stop Like he's just going next door like I can catch him Yeah All right, my my news of the week is uh, so fedora Is planning on introducing a new page package manager kind of it's more of them Like a minimal version of dnf And the things that it will do are going to improve reliability It's going to have better bash completion and better better progress reporting And uh improved transaction tables and stuff like that So it's honestly kind of interesting because one of the things about fedora that I have I've always kind of noticed Is that dnf is kind of slow Like it's not zipper slow like it's not like because the zipper is pretty damn slow but um dnf is is definitely one of the slower Package managers out there. It's you know, it's one of the things that you just noticed now You can obviously make it faster with parallel downloads and stuff like that, but Out of the box It's just kind of slow So this is kind of very interesting to me because I've been spending a lot more time in fedora lately I've been doing more videos and stuff on it and um fedora's just I mean I bitch about wayland and pipeware all the time but Fedora is still kind of good um And that's kind of like where you want to go to experience those things like if you want wayland and if you want If you want to have a good likelihood of having a good experience with wayland and pipe wire when you try it Try fedora because that's where it's going to be the best It just will be You know, I'm honestly quite sick of every linux youtuber saying that fedora is the new buntu um, but it's kind of true like fedora used to be like the the innovator They're always bringing new stuff to linux having new ideas Now a buntu feels like they're chasing gnomes. You know, literally that's all they're doing is they're They're trying desperately to get to the brand new gnomes every year and that's all they do um, they don't like They used to have a competitor to wayland called mere it's still alive, but nobody uses it You know, so They don't come up with any new ideas, but it doesn't really matter But the the point of the going back on the topic again, uh, Jesus matt I don't help it's okay At this point It doesn't matter If we if we stayed on topic the top the the podcast should be like five minutes long Exactly The tangents are half the fun. Anyways, uh, the the micro dnf Package manager, which probably will come out. They're probably going to be testing it They're saying it's going to be next year with fedora 38. Um, I don't know how they're going to get to fedora 38 by next year When they're just coming up with 36 I don't know what usually it's like one a year. I thought but maybe i'm wrong about that. Um, but anyways Sometime in the next couple releases. They're going to be doing this micro dnf thing and that's like I said, it's kind of interesting for me Um, yeah, which I think it will be interesting Also, I don't I don't know that I I really don't think that it's Are they saying like next year Could they mean by the like it being the end of next year? Because that that would make more sense because I don't Just like you were saying with the versions I don't keep up with fedora that much But it doesn't seem like their version numbers go up like every six months Well, I don't think no, I'm pretty sure it's just once a year So I'm pretty sure 35 came out around this time last year 36 is coming out in a few days and Um, no one said in chat. It is every six months. It is every six months Then why aren't why are they only at 38 or 36? If it's every six months, yeah I mean those numbers are going up a little bit faster um April on october is what peter says so Um, yeah, I didn't know that I thought it was just once a year um Cool So 38 will be next april is what he said to learn something new every day It makes me wonder why the numbers haven't gone up faster because My guess is that they've changed the numbering scheme then they've had to have changed the numbering scheme because it At one point then Maybe they or maybe they started over. I don't know They get to version seven like screw this we're going back to one All right, moving on to the main topic because we need to get we need to you know move this thing along just because we can um Do we have the right to pretend I'm I'm I think this was my topic I don't actually remember who put this in in in the thing I thought it was mine, but maybe because it was yours and I thought it was a good topic. I decided to steal it I don't remember. Um, it's possible. Uh, anyway, so The question we have this week is do we have the right to repair our own hardware? because one of the things that Seems to be of of a debate recently Is do you have the like do you really own your hardware? Do you have the ability to repair it and all that stuff? So Tyler, what is your answer to this question? well, it's kind of a nuanced question because Obviously you have the right to repair some things like most things especially about a rebuilt or a desktop computer that you built especially if you built it yourself. I mean you can repair a lot that Like when it comes to the right to repair argument I think it has to do with more of Trying to keep companies from taking active steps to Have bad or at the very least malicious business tactics to try and monetize repairing your computer Kind of the thing is is like for When people talk about right to repair a lot of the times what you mean is is okay We need to essentially have it set up so that you have the right to have free and open access to the information to repair your stuff instead of having to pay for the right to be able to at least know how to fix something and That's a hard one like we live in a world that is fueled by money And companies don't give two shits about the end user at all It doesn't matter how much the business Strokes your ego and says that they love you they don't they love your wallet And let's be honest if you're for profit like that's your main focus It makes sense to charge somebody for the information on how to fix something I'm pretty sure if if there wasn't laws around it mother board manufacturers would charge you for the right to download the manual like I'm sure they would do that um And I'm I think that that's kind of the thing with a lot of stuff like specs I mean apple's the most egregious one here like they're terrible with it but Hopefully hopefully We don't end up in a world where every manufacturer is trying to stop Like hardware specs and just information about their hardware from From being freely and openly available Because it it it hurts a lot of people when you charge for Just basic information like It a lot of the times especially building a desktop computer. There is a lot of money saved in not paying someone to fix it or not paying someone to just do it for you and I don't know. I I don't think it's a good thing to try and monetize the hell out of basic info on repairing your computer But I I think we have the right to repair right now I just think it there's an active movement to take it away. That's for sure I think the question more is more interesting When we talk about like cell phones and laptops because with the desktop You're right the right to repair there is there and While you know, there's probably some discussion on how to make it You know like easier for the motherboard to motherboard manufacturers to sell you more motherboards That you can't you know Like there's a reason why intel comes out with a new socket every time they come out with a chip because they want you to buy a new motherboard You know, that's why the whole am4 thing for amd was so shocking because it said hey We're going to create motherboards or we're going to create chips that will be available for this socket for four generations and everybody's like Oh, that's really nice andy. It's really great. You know, that that's not something am that's not something intel would ever do Because they're you know, an evil corporation uh Turns out amd is somewhat decent. I don't know but More likely they did it because they wanted to you know, catch up to intel, right? Well, that that's the thing everything's profit driven Yeah, they had to play catch up and being the nice guy was the way to catch it all for once Right, right It's it's when you get into like peter said in the in the in the chat it's becomes a more of a interesting and hard to answer question when you talk about like smartphones and laptops because there is some argument to be had that by Tightening things down and making it harder to repair. They're able to make their hardware slimmer More efficient in some ways now It's obviously not always the case and it's not always it's definitely not the reason why they've done it Right, it is maybe a reason but the biggest reason it's like taking the phone charger out of the box Apple made this big deal when they took the the app the phone charger out of the box like oh, this is we're environmentalists We're we're saving trees Um, no you did that so you don't have to give people A charger and you could charge them $40 for it at the store. That's the reason why you did it, right? like Sure, it had this other benefit like you're gonna have fewer chargers out there that could be you know environmentally Impactful, but for the most part you did it because you wanted to line your pockets You know, that's the thing and then all the other companies made fun of them for doing and then they decided Hey, oh, that's a good idea. We're gonna do it too You know, um, we we no longer have to include a charger in the box because you know, we can make the boxes smaller Therefore cheaper You know and and and we can sell it as like the you know the less cardboard So better for the environment also better for our wallets Uh, the the the same thing, you know Happens with the right to repair stuff they were with the With all their hardware, right? They want you to have to buy a new iphone They don't want you to have to They don't want you to be able to say hey, you want a battery is 150 bucks Uh, and uh, I I can pay 150 bucks get a new battery in this and you use my my phone for another two or three years Um, that's not good for apple. They want you to buy a new iphone same thing with every android manufacturer, right? That's the reason why batteries are no longer replaceable Well, but see like the thing is is like I I think it's very odd the way that some companies are trying to do it like The whole idea that Hold on. Let me grab my phone The whole idea that this this cell phone here Cannot like the bat because it's so thin and slim and whatever there's no way to repair the battery or like replace the battery in this it's that That's stupid as shit like obviously you put the battery in here Yeah, it might be more complicated. I might have to pop the back off. I might have to go in here take out a few screws Shit might have to just desolder something and like desolder the battery and then re solder it back in But it's still repairable. Like it's still replaceable. It's not as simple as just pop the back off and just take it out like The the weird thing is that like now it seems like nowadays there's an active push by companies to convince you that just because making something slimmer Makes it a little bit more of a hassle to repair it. It's impossible like it can't be done like Which if you've ever if anybody's ever seen some of the lobbyist that apple ge They're a whole bunch of different corporations have that have lobbied in the u.s. And abroad um for Against right to repair that is a big thing that they they try to tell and convince lawmakers and just the general public that Not only is sometimes doing what i'm talking about here taking apart this thing desoldering it They would like to convince people that that's not necessarily impossible, but it's It's close to it. And it's also very dangerous Like very dangerous, which is The dumbest argument ever if you can build the phone. Um, I can safely repair it Same thing with my refrigerator. Um, if I want to repair my refrigerator I can and it's the same as with any like the argument of what it it it might be dangerous You could hurt yourself You can you can get electrocuted plugging a freaking sock like a plug into the socket in the wall Like you can get hurt doing anything the the idea that you're You're going to save me from myself is It it's such a bad angle and Companies are just uh, I don't know like the whole push for convincing people that it's dangerous to repair your stuff Or because things get slimmer more compact and stuff it it becomes almost impossible to repair it and so They we need to make laws that stop people from it's Such an insane argument like it makes no sense, right? First dylan thanks for the super chat. You didn't actually put a chat in there So I don't assume you don't want to make any comments, but thank you for that Um, I will say this is that there is like peter said in the comment in the in the chat The idea of like water resistance and stuff like that that probably is a good, you know Like probably a good reason for it to be sealed, but Even if you seal it like let's just say we have the things that we have right now that they're sealed boxes or whatever and You make it, you know hard so you can keep water out of there. I can understand that But that doesn't mean you have to do anti-consumer things like using 25 different custom screws That you can't use like an actual screwdriver for you have to buy, you know Like a 40 dollar screwdriver in order to actually, you know use that's what apple does, right? And other it's not just apple like a lot of Companies do this as well. So I don't want to just pick on apple But the the thing is is like it's not just that it's sealed. It's also that it's, you know Hard once you like if you if you manage to get into it without breaking the the back or whatever and you want to replace the battery or whatever you you can't You can't just do that because you have to have special tools you have to have the right parts And apple has gone so far as put basically put drm on their batteries So if you if you got in there and put a battery in there it would keep popping up on your phone This is hey, this is not an original battery Like okay There is an argument to be made that you know buying a A second hand battery from china is not a good thing things might explode Batteries tend to do that But that doesn't mean that you couldn't I mean you're denying an entire market of people who of companies who could make batteries legitimately for your devices um Also the argument of it's We're gonna do this for your safety is Like because peter said battery in these things is so tightly fit that it's really dangerous to fiddle with it That i'm sorry I buy plenty of life lifepo batteries like for you know like drones and shit um If I short circuit it guess what it's pretty dangerous but That doesn't stop me from buying them and using it like that then they They have a certification process already for accessories and stuff. Why can't there be a certification process for the batteries? You know made for our phone, you know the this thing is it has been certified by apple to work, you know Well and also no matter what when you're repairing stuff It's pretty much in every single company's warranty that if you don't have it repaired By them or you know like a subsidiary if there's that you know that they they approve of Then you're breaking the warranty on it So the argument from the company the manufacturer standpoint of well, we do it to protect our people or we do it So because it can be dangerous or we do it because you know You might break the water seal and then we would have to you know like pay for it or you support the warranty That's complete bullshit like if if I repair my phone like this this phone and I break the water seal inside of it I'm already on my own because I repaired it like that's pretty much how warranties work I don't know if like maybe some dipshits haven't been around for forever But like if I if you open up most shit, there's like a little sticker that says warranty void if removed like Hello, have none of y'all ever repaired stuff like that's pretty normal. It's always been a thing So sway am I'm gonna mispronounce your name sway am thanks for the super chase. He's they said Right repair isn't about ease of repair But they're just the right apple saying only that they can repair your device and no one else means they still have control over your device And you don't own it Yeah, and that's basically what they're saying is that they have Because this isn't even just about like my right to repair or your right to pair. It's more about Like even on a broader scale the ability to have a business like say, you know, what the hell you're doing like But for the most part you and I are idiots and we probably don't know exactly what you know I have no clue how to create like a like a like a solder. I don't want to solder anything I don't know how to do any of this stuff But there are people who know how to do this the very smart people are very technical right and they Might want to create a business where they fix iPhones, you know apple says that's not okay you know that Not unusual a lot of companies say that but the They've made it prohibitively impossible basically to have businesses like that and be like able to Charge a reasonable amount for it because if you have to repair iPhones people do that there's businesses out there that do do that They charge a lot of money because it's really freaking hard to take it apart and fix it, you know, and it's also impossible to get legitimate parts from apple you know that our actual Parts for the iPhone everything else has to be like third party or has to be refurbished And for for anybody who doesn't know just how difficult it can be to get apple like repair products Just go watch a little bit of lewis rosman just spend a little bit of time on this channel Like you'll find out just how actively apple like works to make it super difficult to repair their products, which is Ironic as hell like that's just super funny We've been picking on apple for a while, but the thing is is that it's not just apple So if you've ever bought a Dell laptop before and you've had to replace it apart on a Dell laptop It is damn. You're impossible to get a new part You have to get it from Dell and they're not going to sell it to you like they want to do the repair themselves It doesn't mean it's impossible to repair Taking apart a Dell laptop is actually really easy and there's guides and stuff online like iFix it does guides on Dell laptops and like whatever The only place on the internet really that does Is Dell parts is called like parts people And all they sell all they sell are refurbished parts So like you can only get used parts for these things like Pretty much Dell is all like my mom only uses Dell computer She had a really good experience with her first Dell computer and since that point That's all she's bought So every time something I mean she uses the crap out of her computer So the hinges go like bad almost instantaneously on her computers. Also the the the the dc jack On the internal things like it gets blown out. So you have to replace it all the time Yeah, so I can't get those parts brand new. I always have to buy them refurbished and they like God bless people who refurbish stuff, but i'm sorry that shit doesn't last very long Okay, when it comes to that stuff that's that's really high friction metal against metal stuff It's i'm glad that I can actually get something But you know it's still There's a reason why I had to replace it every three months, you know And really what they want done is you to have to buy either buy a new computer when something like that goes bad or Sign up for one of their you know, apple care plus or del Uh care plus or whatever hell they call it where you have to pay, you know every year to have them Give you services basically insurance that you hopefully will never need but you you're gonna need it Oh and by the way, um Just so everyone understands When you pay for those services like that, uh, you're still gonna pay Every time That you need a repair like just because you're paying yearly for that doesn't mean you don't you get a completely free repair Let's make that clear. You don't um, you just get a hopefully cheaper repair Which you've been paying throughout the year to get the right to have it mobile phone insurance Like that mobile phone insurance doesn't mean that when you break your phone you get a new phone No, no, it just means that you get to pay a deductible That means you don't have to pay for the full price of the phone. Usually it's like 50 or 75 bucks And uh, you know still better than buying a new phone But it's still you've paid five dollars a month for that insurance And you know if you if you just put that five dollars up every month you know and then At the end of the when you needed a new phone, you'd probably have bought the price of her new phone, you know after a while Um, also put your fucking phone in a case. Okay. I understand they're pretty without the case and they feel nice You know the great devices. Yeah, but um, it's a massive investment Like especially if you've got a newer phone Like they're not just cheap This was 2007 when the when the when the iphone first came out The the price of the iphone was like 699 dollars or something like that and people just blew up because they thought it was way too expensive for a phone So apple actually did something that apple never does They lowered the price by a hundred dollars Um, so it was 599 or something like that Now nowadays everybody looks like oh look, this is the galaxy fold 3. It's 1800 dollars Like i'm i'm not kidding for the price of the galaxy The price of the galaxy fold 3 or whatever that bs is That is the the retail price of that is exactly the same amount of money that i spent on my first car like Exactly the same amount my first car. I paid 200 dollars for it It didn't run but it was a 1979 delta 88 And that thing was the definition of a rust bucket In the the engine was fine actually, but we needed to rebuild the transmission and they had Holes in the floor So we had to pull out the floor pan and put the floor in it was my first project It was big before I had my we bought it like a year before I got my license And my dad and I fixed it up. I don't know shit about cars. So I wasn't much of help He mostly fixed it up. I sat there and you know, hey, I need a 916 friends. Go get that That's basically what I did Obviously total tanks in there, but it's a good story. Uh, anyways, we're talking about repairing a car which like Nowadays like if you if you apply it to most things it's it's getting The right to repair your shit just across the board is Starting to disappear. Yeah cars have started to get to the point where they're pretty much just like fucking phones There's so much. There's so much different circuitry in there. It's all packed so tight together It's proprietary tooling proprietary tools parts everything like like you used to be able to like you used to be able to go to like uh, Best buy or whatever and buy a like a aftermarket like CD player or Radio whatever you can still do that But it looks like garbage because Because you have to get these stupid kits. They don't really fit all that well But it used to be you could fit one end because for the most part The radios and stuff inside of cars were all basically the same size, you know, and so you could put whatever you wanted in there now You kind of can't do that because they're all different sizes and they all have these stupid screens and Computers and stuff so they've had to I mean they still have the aftermarket stuff But it's not as easy it like now you almost have to have best buy install it for you Because you know they have the tools and the software and stuff that needs to be done You can't do it yourself anymore because you can't like It's not even a new problem really because I remember when we we had a I don't remember what car it was all I remember was we need to replace the It was a Bronco actually it was like one of the like the last Broncos um Because they discontinued the Broncos because oj simpson, but um, I was gonna blame it on him The point is is that in order to get that radio out you had to have a proprietary tool It looked like a little you like with like, um, I don't even know But you had to put it in the side so it would pop it out And like the tool cost like $60 like it was a little piece of metal. It was so stupid. Um, so that's not a new problem But still yeah, it's it's literally everything like every single thing and I mean we've we've kind of ignored it, but it it's not even just about you know Like rights and your ability to save money and stuff. It's also E-waste is like a huge deal, right? It's like a big oh big deal And like you don't like this stuff doesn't you don't want this stuff to go into a landfill You don't want your car to sit out and you know in a junkyard You know, that's not good for the environment like Don't want to be a tree hugger here, but we only got one earth. We don't want to fuck it up If it's not too late. We already done anyways, you know, but we're doing a good job of it But I don't think it's too late yet I mean But there's I mean, there's so many different Aspects of this question, right? So I think both of us agree. We have the right to repair Stuff we or we should have the right to repair stuff, but we don't for the most part um, or even it or even if we do it's There's an active effort to make it disappear But that's just It's all it's all well. It's not all about this But it's mostly about planned obsolescence where they want you to buy new whatever it is And not be able to repair it um the thing is is that uh You know that this is happening because when you buy a new phone What's the one thing that they always tell you hey, do you have another phone traded in? We could give you a three or four hundred dollars for your new phone That's because they can then send it back to apple Who has all of the parts they need to repair this shit? And they can refurbish it and then sell it for eight or nine hundred dollars, you know Don't know why I went all new york there again but um, it's Somebody somebody in the chat said it's all about money You know, it's no. I don't know We can't be surprised about this right like this is not a surprise It's capitalism as fine as as a business that chases profit There's not a lot of profit Selling you something that works for 20 years, right? Not anymore. There's a reason why okay, so you probably don't even remember this but This is old man. Matt gonna get on his stool for a minute. Uh, there used to be a sears brand called like Ken's like I I've forgotten the name Ken's more Ken's worth Ken's something like that And also craftsman like craftsman is the one I'm thinking of like they made tools Right, you're like screwdrivers and stuff, right? I think it's probably even still around Uh, but their craft is definitely still real their their whole stick was that it would last forever Like literally they gave like lifetime warranties on that shit Brandon, I'm sure it's not gonna be you know, you know honor now because sears gone the way of mongam reward But um, you know That was the whole thing you buy this tool this this screwdriver. It will last forever Nowadays it's made of plastic and it's gonna last you one turn You know now craft craftsman is literally synonymous for cheap shit tool. Yeah, that's pretty much craftsman nowadays And that's not the way it used to be it was used to be like this thing will last forever It was literally their whole thing and same thing with like There was a lot I mean we don't I remember back in the day. They don't make them like they used to anymore You know, we're like old men, but it it's really freaking true because they want to make stuff as Uh Replaceable as possible like they want you to have to be able to they want you to have to replace it not repair it Or They don't want to last for ages and ages and stuff because how are they going to make more and more money? Oh, I mean, it's it's hard to sell you shit when everything that you have works. Yeah It's the sad part is is like it's weird because Pretty much companies out on mass Are acting like shitty pay-to-win games like like phone games nowadays like if you If you've ever like watched a lot or gotten into like the mechanics of pay-to-win mobile games A lot of the times their strategy is create problem Sell you solution and typically to create the problem is some stupid weird Like just annoying Bullshit that in an otherwise good game you have to deal with and then they sell you the solution And that's just how companies are now on mass companies are not it's People have this weird view of companies where okay Companies their goal is to make the best product possible if you believe that i'm sorry But that is the furthest thing from the truth The furthest thing the most important thing Is making money and having a half decent product Is kind of necessary for making money That's it like making a good product is not the focus. It's getting the money out of the product That's it Where this all comes down to is that it's much easier for them to make A half decent product that is not repairable And that you had to replace and then come up with another product that is basically exactly the same that you Might have one or two features that are really easy for them to come up with You know Basically no innovation and you just keep on that product cycle where your stuff kind of gets Marginally better each generation It's much easier for them to be on this Thing that they're doing now Then every two or three years come up with a product that is fantastic and has all these innovations And is an amazing is an amazing product, right? There's a there's a reason why if you buy an iphone these days It basically looks like there's exactly the same iphone you book at about four or five years ago The edges are a little square now, but I mean all they did for the most part It's the same thing taking risk as a company and doing something innovative It comes with risk and companies don't like that. Yeah, and they It's not part of the model like the model is just you know Create something that's just marginally better That costs more that you know people want like If people loved the iphone 4 right design because it was you know Slim and sleek and sexy and stuff like that and they stick with that design through like the iphone 5s Yeah, they stretched it out a little bit and made it thinner But basically they've they made it was a boxy iphone Then they did the rounded iphone for many generations because it was that was the new thing The new iphone's look exactly like the iphone 5 did basically for the most part It's the exact same design Excuse me. There's no innovation that really and there's no Benefit for them to innovate on the design of the iphone. It's the reason why most phones They all look like this, you know, they look like a slab of glass. That's what they look like It's the reason why it's also the reason why samsung can get away with Eighteen hundred dollars for a foldable phone because it looks unique It obviously is something that they've you know, innovated on they have literal folding glass Which I don't even begin to understand. How is it possible? It's obviously not all that good because you hear all these reports about how You know, it breaks after so so long whatever But the point is is that they've obviously samsung has obviously innovated in terms of making that, you know, possible That's the reason why it's eighteen hundred dollars You know, I mean and that's that's also something people don't understand like Sure samsung is doing some interesting things with all of this but They don't that as a company it's not really if you want to be the most strategic like if Winning the capitalistic game is like your company's goal. Like, you know, like we want to make the most amount of profit possible samsung has spent A shitload in research and development on making those foldable phones Let me ask you something personally met. How many people do you know with a samsung fold? No one Same I have people that want like I know people that want it But I I know no one that actually has it in their hands and that's what they use I know not one person who would ever ever Like spend eighteen hundred dollars on a phone like they would literally go without a phone first Before they ever spend that amount of money now See, I'm the same way about a thousand dollar phone Like I don't want to spend a thousand dollars on a phone I spent six hundred dollars on this phone and that was way freaking too much and this was a used refurbished phone by the way, you know I I don't understand the cost of I mean we get get into the cost of phones all we want It's just way too expensive like if if a computer like an actual motherfucking computer with a keyboard and a trackpad and the ability to run linux and windows and mac or whatever you want it to do costs 799 But your phone costs nine hundred dollars. No, that's not you like I understand That at one point the research and development to get this stuff down to the to this size was a big deal like in order to get the The the the processor and all the the the batteries and all this stuff to get to to miniaturize it to this size The research and development, it would have been big but we've done that like That was 15 years ago there now like they did that with the iphone That was the research and development. You're not still paying those people off. Okay Those loans have been paid Yet the prices keep going up and they keep calling it research and development No, you can't keep creating phones that look exactly the same year after year for the most part Breaks a glass You know and and keep charging me more money for them and and expect me to say oh those features are really good Uh, I need to have those features like there is When I was younger. Yes, like this is the that's the whole point is when when you're like really young Like you're a teenager or whatever the new iphone is sexy as hell man Like look at those colors like fantastic colors and oh, it's a new design and a smaller notch and mom Can I have one? You know uh kind of Sound like i'm a 90 year old man, but When once you get out there and you actually earn your money You know, it's a lot harder to justify a thousand dollar phone and that's the reason why The carriers or whatever will say well, it's not a thousand dollar phone. It's just 16 dollars a month Exactly that doesn't sound exactly. I could afford 16 dollars a month. That's just a couple starbucks coffees You know, I mean it'll be perfectly fine, but you don't realize it's like those pay-to-own deals where Yeah, technically you're only paying 16 dollars a month But really what you're doing is you're paying $2,000 for a $1,000 phone, you know, it's a it's a it's a payday loan scam Um It's it's funny when you said about desktop like to phone prices You made me think about it. My phone does cost legitimately more than my setup does like if if I'm talking about just this computer like I don't include um The 6600 x t which isn't even in this computer anyway, but like my computer that i'm using right now costs like Probably a few hundred dollars less than my phone did So not only not only do they say hey pay a thousand dollars for this technology But also you have to pay us 60 dollars a month in order to use it The primary functionality of a phone is to make phone calls and send text messages And in order to use that primary primary functionality, you have to pay us money after also buying the device like Whoever came up with that model is that guy's brilliant, right? Obviously that guy's a billionaire and that's the reason why he's a billionaire and i'm a schmuck, you know You know, so I mean kudos to that guy who came up with that thing But man, he's also a crook like that's bernie made off level Stealing my money, you know because it's just like holy shit like Can you can you imagine? And i'm sure there's pro i'm sure there's probably someone out there who thought that this was a good idea You go to the car dealership and you spend 40 000 dollars for a new car But you can't drive it and that you also pay them 80 dollars a month to to Whatever, you know use the radio and use the steering wheel and the the wheels None of those things work unless you pay them money I mean that's basically what this is because this thing here I mean we will get there one day We will get there like the ability to use your windshield wipers will be like a feature add-on Like that you'll it'll be like dlc for your car. We have got there like tesla does this shit like You can buy a tesla and it will go a certain speed, but you can buy dlc for your tesla to make it go faster Yeah, like it's I think it's called like mox speed or ludicrous speed or something like like they for They stole it from space balls melbrook should shoot elan musk. I'm just gonna put that out there uh But the the the the thing is is like We're there like that they're they're actually doing that like in order to get these extra features like you have to pay Us more money that you I mean you it's never mind that this was a 70 000 dollar vehicle more than Most people in their 50s paid for their freaking houses, you know I'm pretty sure my mom and dad spent four thousand dollars on their first house Like you can't even buy a brick for four thousand dollars these days He'll know Shit phones will be at that price here soon. Like It's just I don't I was on about the the research and development thing, but like you can't How is it that the computers that have been around that we use every day like that we're using right now Have gotten continuously cheaper like for the most part outside of the whole You know pandemic and Supply chain stuff that's been going on right for the most part Computers have gotten progressively cheaper over the last 20 years now Obviously, you can still spend three or four thousand dollars on a computer But if you spend three or four thousand dollars on a computer you're getting a top of the line fucking Computer that's going to last you for a long time It has all the specs that you want it has the best processor the best graphics card Again, probably before the the pandemic is probably more expensive now the the the point is but The same thing isn't with phones or there Is and they keep expecting these phones that they they keep coming out with To have us act like this is new technology Like this is technology that they're just researching and developing right now And that's the reason why they think that they can they can charge us this amount of money Or the I think the thing is too is is Think the idea That a lot of companies are trying to sell you on is that This is your business device like this thing here Like it's it's meant to like make you money. It's meant to operate your business and everything It's meant to be your computer. It's exactly and I for me I'm sure that for some people that works but I don't know like in my like in my opinion phones are for like Just talking with family um Arranging things with like scheduling things with friends meeting up with friends And then like I don't know porn and dick pics like That's Phones are for I was gonna say mobile games, but apparently you and your netflix in the shower, you know Hey, hey, oh speaking of which I'm speaking of like netflix in the shower. I'm getting very close to finishing peaky blinders Um, I think I'm on the last season. I'm pretty sure I am. It's such a good show. Sorry for the pageant I don't know what that is because I don't subscribe to netflix. Um, it's called the pirate bay bro I'm just gonna put it out there Hey, hey, you got to keep that on the dl man. You can't just be telling everybody All right, you're on youtube. You're so getting demonetized I All right Got anything else you want to talk about with right right to repair I think we could go on and bitch about how expensive stuff and why this has made things more expensive for a long time um It's just one of those things where we could talk ourselves in circles and it's just I mean Okay, before we move on let's just talk about the solution Okay, and possible solutions. So there are companies out there We're looking at like fair phone and we're talking about the framework laptop That have made devices that are meant to be repaired that have modular pieces and stuff like that Google even tried this right like they tried with Project whatever the hell was called. Um, but in typical google fashion. They canceled it. Um So there are companies out there that have done this but the thing is No, we buy some like nobody buys them like the fair phone or whatever hell It's called the modular phone. It's not even as if it's more expensive than any of your phone It's actually I think cheaper than a lot of other phones But nobody wants it because it's not as sleek and slim as the iphone It doesn't have the most recent stuff like the iphone and the android phones have um, so That's I think the thing that we last thing we should talk about is that when companies have tried to make right to repair a thing like a Well, so a A marketable thing for their product when they've tried to do this Nobody's cared like nobody the mass majority people. Well, it's not that nobody cared. It's the companies that are doing it Drop the ball on the most important part of the device and this is if we take the libra phone the pine phone the uh Fairphone every single open implementation of a phone They make really good decisions on the hardware where like, you know, like kill switches for different things The hardware is just it's very open like they they make good decisions hardware wise and build quality with the with the phones like You know, like they they choose screens that aren't the best at most incredible screens out their highest resolution But they have they pick a resolution that I don't know makes sense for a seven inch screen You know around seven inch screen. I don't need a 4k seven inch screen. I'm sorry exactly and that's going to help battery life a shitload um, but they all all Drop the ball on the most critical part of a phone which is the processor I'm sorry, but if you make all the rest of the hard like I don't care How much of the rest of the hardware is good when the actual main processor that like needs to run everything is slow as shit Piss off like I just I can't use you like on a daily basis I can't I'm not going to click and I don't want to go back to the days of like Clicking and then just being like on dial-up speeds and like waiting and watching for a website to finish rendering That's a good. That's a good point There's also another thing is that they make these modular things that you're supposed to be able to say Like oh, you can swap out the camera. You can swap out the the battery. You can swap out the stuff But those parts hardly ever materialized like so one of the things like there's no longevity because they're all really small companies There's no company out there that at least has so far been able to last long enough to make those things worthwhile. So like And the thing is is that we've been taught that that kind of thing doesn't last so for example Not too long ago a few years ago delt came out with a An alienware laptop that had things that you could like modules that you were supposed to be able to in the future be able to Plug into this to make it, you know Upgradable like things like the cpu and the gpu and stuff like be able to plug into it They never followed through it like there was never something else They came out with a second one where you could actually take the things from the second one by those parts and put it in the first one it never happened and That kind of thing has happened over and over and over again where companies will have this idea where they'll try to Make things upgradeable or whatever and say hey, we'll sell you parts like intel has done this with one of their nooks before They have like these compute units or whatever and like they did it for one generation and then it never happened again you know and When the main companies when the big companies do this they teach consumers to expect that kind of behavior and it's it's and it even happened and it happens with the small companies even more frequently because But less maliciously like the big companies do it because it doesn't make them money the The smaller companies do it because they go out of fucking business, you know, you know So when when you create something like the fair phone or the pine phone or whatever, it's really hard to Have that trust in the consumer market that you're going to be around in 10 years for me to be able to buy the parts That are going to make this something and they're going to last that long like I have no like I've looked at the pine stuff before like the pine pro pine book pro and the pine phone stuff like that I've looked at that stuff And first of all I don't understand how you can sell a laptop for $200 Like I don't I don't I don't understand that there's some kind of black magic going on there Uh, and I also think there's there is something to you get which pay for um, so I'm like And they always have this warning right at the checkout like oh there might be dead pixels on your screen and it's perfectly normal I'm perfectly normal That means your display is broken. You know That's not that's not the way like I'm but I mean it's $200 so I mean But it's new but I don't I know it's always one of those things that confuse me It's one of those things that also is going to scare the crap out of Regular users. They're gonna see this like you're gonna sell me something for $200 and tell me right away that it's possible I could get it broken and that's quote-unquote normal like Like that's not that's not the way the market works when you buy something and it's broken You take it back and get a new one. That's not normal Yeah, it's it's that's one of those things right so I don't know It just feels like whenever somebody tries this and people are companies are trying it right now You know, it just you know, it doesn't work for various reasons Whether it's because of there's no trust in them or because it's they didn't do a very good job in the first place or any number of reasons it just feels like I because I think you're right that I was wrong. That's not that nobody cares It's just that we've learned over a serious period of you know years That when this kind of stuff comes along it's not something that you can trust For a long period of time Wow, that actually that topic actually got me fired up like I'm fired up about that We haven't had a main topic that that we dived in like that in a while. Yeah, it was pretty good. Um I I really probably should get myself like a lazy boy recliner and start making videos about this I First of all the idea of being able to do a YouTube video from your lazy boy recliner is I mean luis rosman brilliant man Just pure really brilliant You can just sit there with your laptop on your lap or your keyboard on your lap and a mouse on the cushion and just sit there And make a make a video you don't have to be one of these freaking Uncomfortable office chairs for hours on editing shit in the hell no I need to get myself a lazy boy That's how you do it Never leave this chair again Anyways, uh, that is it for the main topic Let's go ahead and move on to the thingy of the week now for those of you who have never watched a linux cache before You will know that this last section here is creatively titled because We couldn't come up with anything else So we call it the thingy of the week and this thingy can be literally anything. Maybe a tip trick Pick up app whatever so tyler your thingy of the week Mine would be the fantastic top I have been I have been just using top instead of h top here very recently and it's Look like h top is really Like nice looking, but I've found Especially on my open bsd system h top is Not as The the way it shows you memory is a little I wouldn't say disingenuous, but it's different like The way that you show like Virtually not or excuse me no Is it virtual memory? No, what am I trying to say like the cached and accessed memory or whatever? You there every program that's doing system monitoring can Show you memory in a slightly different way. That's kind of like why you run You check in h top, but then you run neo fetch and they're like the memory values are slightly off And you're like what like how what which one's right like they're both technically right It's just one might not be showing you cached ram or you know, whatever So but I've I've just been using top here recently and it's fine And it's you know, just the built-in don't have to pull anything extra down. It's just there There's no thrills. It does not look great. It does not it does not look nearly as good as h top or bashtop or whatever But it Functions just fine Functions just the same way that you kind of expect it to Yeah, so I like it. I'm going back to the basics more minimalist I'm surprised you haven't written a script that just sends you a dunce notification with your memory every five minutes or something Oh, well, I do now have a Bash script that that's set up where It will shoot me a notification When my temperature reaches a certain level So like it checks like I think it's like I think it checks like every 30 seconds Or no, I may have set it up every minute Like I think that's what I set up to every minute It checks to see like what the temperature is and if it's above 70 degrees celsius, it shoots me a notification Which is nice because now I definitely won't have any problems overheating I should shoot that script up to my get lab just in case some other Idiot out there like myself who like likes to run their shit hot and like not notice that the fan's not speeding up when you're putting it Under load At least your computer's not in a cardboard box anymore Yeah, yeah I didn't even think about that that would have been bad. Yeah So my pick of or my thinking of the week this week is uh firefox actually And I know what you're thinking man. It's firefox. Everybody uses firefox Well, I mean not everybody but everybody should use firefox. But the point is Firefox came up with a version 99 and it buried in the about Config thing you can enable something called overlay g2k scroll bars or g2k overlay scroll bars Not sure the order The point is is that I made a video About a month and a half ago. Maybe two months ago about how scroll bars on Linux and specifically browsers kind of stuck because they're inconsistent. They're ugly. They don't go away. It's horrible But this new thing with the firefox with a g2k overlay for uh scroll bars They're so good. Oh man. They're so good now functionality wise they work like freaking scroll scroll bars But the the point is is that when you're not using the scroll bars, they go away Like the scroll bar is just just not there anymore And when you are using them, there is just a little sliver like a little thing like when you're scrolling up and down You'll see a position like on your phone like on your phone You know when you're scrolling up and down the scroll bar will show up But it's just like a little sliver along the side. That's what this is now Like it's just a little sliver and if you hover over it gets bigger so you can drag it up and down But if you move your mouse away from it, it just goes back to a little a little one and when you stop scrolling it goes away Completely gone and it works so well. It works even on websites. They use their own like scroll bars They usually look like they're from windows 98 It has replaced those scroll bars and made them like this. It is So good and it has made it so that I have no interest whatsoever In switching away from firefox again. So, um, god, it's so good. Like I know I'm a nerd Okay, I did I just spent five minutes talking about scroll bars. Okay I bet you no other linux youtuber has ever done that before It's so good. Anyways Seriously, uh, you can wait until firefox 100. They'll be enabled by default But if you wanted them now, you can go into about.config and search for gtk overlay scroll bar And it should come up and just turn that to true and they'll show the shop You won't even have to restart firefox. Those just be there. So So so good here using kube browser Never again Okay, like I need to I I'm I I'm sorry, but the ad blocking in kube browser is just it's bad It's piss poor uh speaking of the ad blocking your article Like when I was reading over it man, like there was so Many ads like I got a video. I got a banner ad I got uh the like the other banner ad like at the bottom of the screen that gets big Then it had like ads over here Like there was ads pop up all over the place. I was like, oh my crap At least on like the desktop or whatever there's room for those ads like You can it was like designed for it If you when you on your phone and you go to one of like this morning I was looking for a weather app for the android for my android And uh turns out there's not a little good weather apps for the android But the point is I was looking for the best ones So I search as you do on google for best weather app for android And it takes you to like android sensor or whatever like android sensors like a legitimate blog They make a lot of money. They're very popular, but you get on their their mobile website They have an auto playing video that you can't scroll past it floats with you They have a ad at the bottom They have ads inside the text that you know kind of like have the parallax effect And then when you go to navigate away, they have a pop up Like you can't read the content because they have so many ads like I understand as someone who makes money through advertisements on the internet like I completely understand That you know you have to use ads to make money It doesn't mean it has to be a horrible experience. Does it exactly? Exactly some website designers don't understand it like there has got to be A way to have advertisements on your website that doesn't mean that you can't actually get to the content But also that doesn't mean like it's like like the verge for example I'm I like the verge I always listen to their podcast or whatever I think a little bit a lot of times they're a little bit elite, but whatever I like this stuff But they're their website if you have ads enabled It makes that website load like you're on dial up I get loads So slowly and like I want to support you guys like I would have I would add you to my white list You know in my ad blocker if I could get to your content like normally, you know But you can't that's the funny thing I don't even consider using ad block until I go to the sites and places that can't use ads like a reasonable decent person like If if if you're designing a website you're going to put ads on a website As long as the ads do not interfere with the content. I don't care I Don't because I I know that's kind of like that's kind of like my Like cover fee for going into a place, you know, like bars have like a surcharge like a cover charge Like, you know, you'll pay five bucks to go in at the door and then then you can do whatever you want and you know just have a good time and To me like ads on websites are just like that they're that cover charge but I'm sorry, but when the cover charge is like $30 and like a slap to the face like no, obviously No, I won't like And just to kind of make the whole podcast go full circle when you get a beer It's actually a can of beer that somebody's peed in, you know That's that's basically what the advertisements are now, right? We just come completely full circle if you haven't watched the beginning. We're just talking about that in the pre-show. So Speaking of the pre-show, let's just move past this because we we could sit here and bitch about ads like the entire Like for the next two hours and we've already been going for a long freaking time But anyways, the point is is that if you want to watch the podcast live We record this live every thursday around three o'clock eastern Around three p.m. Eastern time I can't talk and we do that on youtube.com slash linux cast So make sure you subscribe there if you want to watch live You'll also get a whole bunch of other content which is varying levels of good So you can do that there The way the podcast works now in video form is that the live stream is the podcast for youtube So if you want to watch The video version of the podcast the live stream is what you're going to get That means you're also going to get to see the pre-show which we talked about Just a minute ago where you'll get to see the the 15 or 20 minutes where tyler and I just bullshit this time We talked about politics So that's probably going to scare about 90 of the people who are going to watch this video away Exactly, yeah, whatever Uh, I will go ahead and say if you watch back the pre-show We it's not like we get very we just lightly talk about the realm of politics. It's not like we dived in deep We don't even take position We're really really what we did is we complained about how bad politics actually are but the the the point is Is that I'm not expecting very many people to watch this podcast Past that point because they're gonna say oh my god. I'm not gonna listen to this I don't I don't come here for politics But anyways, it doesn't matter 3 p.m. Eastern Eastern time On the linuxcast YouTube channel you can watch this live otherwise if you want to catch it afterwards you can do so Either in the video form or an audio form where you can find all that stuff at the linuxcast.org Before I go I should take a moment to thank my current patrons. You can support us at patreon.com slash linuxcast Thanks to robert said devon patrick. 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