 okay so it does open clockwise and it does open I don't know if I'll even bother posting that but I'm gonna trouble with this guy and the girl Bogota did the job it's a frame pin tumbler lock brass appears to be made into halves that are welded or brazed or whatever together or to core DA so I'm assuming that's army or something equivalent it's got a code stamped on it which may well be a direct bidding code I'm not sure and not key retaining so possibly shimble but probably not so there we go so anyway this Alex thanks for watching I'll try SPPing this see we'll do it too for but as always have fun keep it legal cheers