 Yes, Prabhakar. You can share now. Thank you. This is one of my friend's sister. They did not have a kid for eight years. Last time when they conceived, the baby was in a deformed state. They had to abort the baby. So the family was broken and all that. But as we were praying, we got sure the two months, like December and May, we were thinking why two months? He is supposed to show us one month. There is a month or something next. And one of my other friend also, he saw a double potion. And then they had no hope. Fleshly it was impossible. And then they tried an IV booster. When they did, she got conceived. And it was like five months or something. Last time when they did the scan, the baby was normal. And they were doing very good. Now the point is now, the whole family is happy. And God is glorified here. We cannot say this is only because of medical or something. Because even before medical knowledge, God showed to them that it is possible. This is definitely a glorified God. So that is the test of my mission. Yes, sure. Thank you for sharing that. So see, ultimately, I think it's about the word that God gives, right? Regarding a matter, like in the case of Abraham, I think he didn't go by that word. He let a human thought or a human understanding dictate terms in between, which is what caused the birth of Ishmael. But as long as we are holding on to God's word, and if God's purpose is fulfilled, like we're talking about medical help, it is fulfilled in that manner, it's okay. And as you shared, it definitely does glorify God. And we thank God for that. And also Susan is sharing that some of her doubts were cleared. So yeah, that's wonderful, Susan. Thank you for letting us know. Christopher, you have a comment to make? Yes. So as we were talking about the IVF, not that I want to conclude the discussion too much on that area, but on the flip side, and really it's really the flip side. If people use contraception to prevent the birth of children versus a natural way of doing it, I think that again is using medical technology, medical means of being able to prevent that to happen. If there are valid reasons for wanting to delay. So I just wanted to understand your view on that. So that was just one point. The other one was just about the place of Mary in the entire sort of way she is represented in the church. Obviously there are denominational churches who have placed at a much higher pedestal, and they even have gone to the extent of saying that she is remained a virgin through her entire life, which again, the Bible refutes that. So I think given that this was a miracle that brought the Son of God into the world, just like we have prophets like Isaiah and Moses, is there any sort of special place for Mary? Not that we would pray to her, but is there a special place? There is a view also that just like if we were to have people in the seat for us on the earth, for example, if I were to ask for a pastor, a new pastor or a priest to pray for something specific. So in a way, we are sort of having your intercede for me, for this very quest. So in a similar way, can we actually have someone who has a special place on the earth, not on the earth, but in the church, can we have that person intercede? So we don't pray to them, but we ask them to intercede. Just from the transition of your view on both these points. Yes, sure. Christopher, very thought provoking questions. So the first one, the first one is about contraception. You said, okay, is it okay to go the medical route for contraception? What I would say is like, like scriptures tell us, like if you look at Psalm 139, I think verses 14 through 16, where the Psalmist writes, you have knit me together in my mother's womb. I'm fearfully like you made my inner inward parts. I'm fearfully and wonderfully made. And also Jeremiah, when you see God talking about Jeremiah, he says that I've called you from when you were in your mother's womb. So we know that like a baby that is formed, right? Now that is recognized by God as a person, as a person. So contrary to what, you know, we're going into too many details here. Like, you know, people say, okay, what if you, you choose not to, you know, have that child, like by your own will, like naturally you don't lose the child, but you do something to kind of get rid of that child. Biblically, that wouldn't be wrong because we know that once a child is created in the womb, it's recognized by God as a person and that a child has a spirit. Okay. So when we talk about contraception, like my understanding is, you know, anything that prevents the formation of the child, once it has come to that stage and then, you know, you're trying to abort it, that wouldn't be wrong, but any, you know, medical intervention, you know, I hope you get my point, right? So there isn't anything wrong with, you know, other things for contraception. So that is what I would say. And now coming to the question about Mary, should she have a special place? I think, yes, I think so. Of course, she's an ordinary human being, like all the other ordinary human beings in the Bible who are used by God, any prophet or, you know, anyone. So she's ordinary, but at the same time, you know, we do review, we say, oh, Elijah the prophet, Elisha the prophet, Moses who led God's people. So we honor them for the way in which God used them. So in that manner, for us to honor Mary, for what God did through her life, I don't see anything wrong with that. So we can honor her just to that extent, you know, not put her on a pedestal. Now the connected question, my thoughts, Christopher, is when we talk about intercession, it is only us here on the earth, people who are alive, who are children of God, you know, those who are born again. We carry that authority and that dominion. So when we intercede for another living person, it makes sense. But now if we depend on somebody like, you know, Mary, now she is not a living human being. So once you're dead, you cannot exercise your authority. So there's no point asking Mary to intercede for us or in that manner any other saint who has already gone to be with the Lord, they cannot engage in intercession for us because the Bible is quite clear that those of us who are alive and we are in the body of Christ, we are the ones who can co-labor in prayer with God. So does my explanation address your questions? Yes, yes, thank you. Okay, sure. Yes, thank you, thank you. Okay, okay, Tarun says, Jesus is the high priest. We don't depend on other priests. Yeah, sure. Yes, Tarun. So Jesus is a high priest also. So he's interceding. He's engaged in intercessory prayer in heaven right now for us. Okay, excellent. Any other clarifications before we move forward or can we go to the next section? Okay, so we'll... Okay, Anita. Yes, yes, Anita, please. Can I ask? Mom, I just had a doubt. So when we say about IVF taking, IVF treatment would be right or wrong. In that perspective, can we connect it to like, if we have cancer or something, people go for the medical treatment. Yeah. So in that case, would it be the same like that, that we, like when we are having the problem with childbearing, we go for IVF. Would it be the same like that? I think yes. I think yes, Anita. Okay, yeah, thank you, ma'am. Yeah, sure, sure. Okay, all right. Okay, so Anita, see, we could go deeper into all this. All right. But I wouldn't want to do that, but just the premise on which I'm saying is, see, if there's a married couple, okay, husband and wife, they are married. When you look at scripture, like even when you look at the book of Genesis, when God blessed Adam and Eve, he said, be fruitful, multiply and be fruitful. So it's a given, that blessing is a given. So if the husband and wife want to have a child and they have not had a child, and then they go for, you know, medical, medical means to see that blessing, there's nothing wrong because you're still going by God's blessing on your life, which says be fruitful and multiply. So just one, you know, thought there. Yeah. Okay, Beth is saying several eggs are fertilized but only few are used. So that means some that are fertilized are thrown away at what point is a person, a person. Okay, interesting. Beth, yeah, thank you for that question. Very, very important question there with the spirit. Okay. Yeah. You're right. You're right. I haven't really thought about that, Beth, honestly. So if you're okay with this, I could think this through and maybe, you know, also check with some other believers who can comment on this and then share my thoughts. Is that all right? Yeah, sure. Thank you. Let me make a note of that question. Okay. All right. Yes. So let's continue with our subject here. We are a chapter four. Yeah. And this again is very important for a kingdom builder because we so far we said we have to be directed by the Holy Spirit and the Holy Spirit communicates to us. Now the Holy Spirit generally communicates to us by putting something in our hearts. So it can be an idea. It can be a thought. It can be a purpose. It can be a goal. It can come in the form of a word. It can come in the form of a picture and image or it can be a dream. So we receive communication in all these forms. But the end of the day, you know, we are just going to term it a vision. Okay. In our discussion. So now let's not get too technical that, oh, this is not exactly a vision. But basically you're what God wants you to do. We are referring to that as a vision in our discussion now in act 1619. Paul when he is talking about his life, he says therefore King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision. So whatever God communicated to Paul, he strived in his life to remain faithful to that. And that is what we are also called to do. And how does God communicate what he wants us to do in act chapter two? We've seen the Holy Spirit when it was poured out on the day of Pentecost when the church was born. God gave the church dreams and visions and communication by the working of the Holy Spirit. And that's how we pick up these purposes or the vision that God has for each one of us and our individual ministry in the body of Christ, whatever that is. But one thing we are clear. Every single one of us is called to serve in one way or the other. We just need to know what that is and we have to do it. So this God given vision or the prompting of God, we will discuss about that. We will get some insight about the God given vision. The God given vision is a divine command and an authorization. So we looked at the fact that Paul commented to King Agrippa. In fact, it is Acts 26. There's a printing mistake in that first scripture there. This Acts 26 verse 19 says, therefore King Agrippa, I was not disobedient to the heavenly vision. So he took it up as a command because it came from God. So in the same way, when God gives us a vision, we know that he's directing us in that direction. And we have to take it up. In other words, in simple words, take it seriously. A command is always taken seriously. The great commission. It's not a great suggestion, people say. So it's something that every believer needs to do. Share the faith. Go make disciples of others. So in the same manner, the vision is something that God has given to us as a command. And this command, because it is from God, we can rest assured that God backs us up. Or in other words, it is an authorization. We have received an authorization from heaven. So when we step out to do the things that God is calling us to do, it will bring along a boldness, a confidence, a fearlessness because this life is from God and the purpose to live this life is being communicated through the vision that God has given us. And I'm holding onto that vision and I'm following that vision and I can be very bold because I have received the authorization from heaven to do what I am doing. So that's how the heavenly vision must be treated. It must be treated as a command. It must realize that it is an authorization so we can step out willingly and boldly to do what God is calling us to do. Then the person who receives the vision, that person becomes the vision bearer. So in the case of Paul, the apostle, we know that God said that you are going to be an apostle to the Gentiles. So that was the vision which he was carrying in his heart, becoming an apostle to the Gentiles. So in other words, we can call him the vision bearer. Now, did the gospel go out to the Gentiles only through the life of Paul? No, God put other people in his life. There were lots of others who partnered together with him to serve that purpose of God but there was a vision bearer in Paul. In the same way, God can give us different dreams, ideas, vision, and that does not necessarily mean that it's only going to be me or you, one person, fulfilling that vision. God can have other, several other people come alongside us to see that vision fulfilled. Okay. And when God wants to execute something on the earth, usually, this is the way in which he works. God raises up a person. Now, that person could be from a certain place. That person could be carrying a certain message in their hearts. So God raises up individuals who will heed the call of God and have the purpose of God accomplished. Now, can God do this through an angel? Can God do this in some other supernatural, fantastic way? Yes, He can. But that's not the general way in which God works. God works through people. So when God wants to execute something on the earth, usually it'll come in like a vision or a stirring in somebody's heart and that person will be the one who will be used to release that purpose or that person will lead the execution of that purpose on the earth. So God generally works through a person and he stirs up people to fulfill his purpose. Yeah. And when he raises up a person, this could be a man or a woman, they follow after that specific mission which is put in their hearts. They proclaim that specific message that God has put on their hearts. They release that specific ministry that God has blessed them with. God entrusts this person with more people. God entrusts them with, you could say, all the means required, the methods and the means required to carry out that purpose and for the glory of God. So this is how God generally works. So a vision is a divine command and an authorization. And you see how God is working, right? God is working through an individual or a person. Okay. So here in our notes, we have the example of Moses, okay? Who was the person whom God raised to lead Abraham's descendants out of Egypt? God promised Abraham, I'm going to do this. But how could God do it without a person? So God picked Moses and Moses was the individual through whom God actually led the children of Israel out of Egypt. So God works through a person and they execute the purpose of God. So we receive a God given vision and that vision is a command. It's an authorization. What else about the God given vision? A God given vision sometimes can be detected by the stirring in our hearts. Okay. So that means that we are passionate about something. Okay. And you know, we care so much about a particular cause. Each one of us, each one of us and generally, generally, you know, if you're walking close to God and you know, we're letting the Holy Spirit speak to our hearts, we're aligned to the direction of the Holy Spirit. We can be sure that, you know, these stirrings are not, you know, just some random fleshly, earthly stirring. But God chooses to put that stirring in our hearts. You know, and that can be the way in which God is actually directing us. So if you look at the life of Moses, God, all along, you know, all along Moses had the freedom of his own people in his heart. He just didn't know how to do it. Okay. And then of course, he made a mistake. He tried to rescue an oppressed Israelite, you know, under the Egyptians and he ended up murdering an Egyptian. And because of that, he had to flee and stay in the wilderness for a long time. He didn't know how to do it. But the stirring in his heart was that the people of Israel should be free. That they should live without oppression. Okay. So God can put a stirring in our hearts and we have to basically recognize that stirring. And that's how it happened for Moses. He had this intention that he wants God's people to be free. Now another person in the Bible who was stirred up was Nehemiah. Nehemiah chapter one where he heard about the walls of Jerusalem being broken from verses one to four. You see that he became very upset and there was a stirring in his heart. Okay. The exact verse. Okay. All right. So anyway, when you read the verses there, you understand that the message, now this message could have gone to, you know, many exiles. But it affected Nehemiah in a particular way and he was so upset that we read he fasted, he mourned for many days. You know, he was praying to God about this situation of the walls of Jerusalem being broken. So it came about as a stirring in Nehemiah's heart. So what are we saying? Basically we're saying pay attention to the stirring that God has put in our hearts. Now this can be in various forms. We're talking about kingdom building. So some of us maybe with regard to the local church, we have a stirring in our hearts to raise up a strong local church, strong in the word, strong in the spirit, right? Well organized. Maybe we are passionate about that and we want to see that kind of a work accomplished on the earth. Now for others of us, today we were talking about some causes, you know, the unborn child or maybe you are passionate about justice or some of us, we could be passionate about creativity. Different things that God puts inside our hearts and usually the God given vision, it is connected to that stirring. So we have to pay attention. It's not a waste. The experiences that we go through and the way in which God directs us, even taking thoughts from that experience and directing us for our future to make things better. So God can put a cause in our hearts so he can put a stirring in our hearts and we have to be careful to pay attention to that stirring and our God given vision can be in that direction. Coming to the next thought here about the God given vision. The God given vision has an appointed time for initiation and execution. We have seen this earlier when we talked about the Mary miracle. We'll look at it a little more here. There is a passage given from Acts chapter 7 verses 17 and 20. Can somebody please read this? It's in our notes I'm on page 33. Page 33 bottom. Yeah. At 7, 17 and 20. Yes. But when the time chronos of the promise grew near which God had sworn to Abraham, the people grew and multiplied in Egypt. At this time, Cairo's Moses was born and was well pleasing to God and he was brought up in his father's house for three months. Okay, thank you, Anita. So in this passage, we see those Greek words chronos and Cairo's. So basically God had told Abraham that after 400 years people, your descendants, they will move out of Egypt. So the passage of time is what we call as chronos. But the fullness of time, we saw in Galatians 4, 4 in the fullness of time, meaning it is a God appointed time and it's a very strategic time in the calendar of God. So that is called as the Cairo's. That is called as the Cairo's. Now God had promised Abraham that the people are going to be released from Egypt and about 400 years, at the end of those 400 years, it was supposed to happen. Okay, that is understood. But even during that phase, we read here that at this time or at the appointed time or more specifically at the Cairo's moment, remember we said for a God given vision, usually God works through a person. So God needed an individual to cause this exodus to happen and it was Moses who had this purpose on his life and he was born at the God appointed time or the Cairo's moment and it was well pleasing to God and he was brought up in his father's house for three months. So the life of Moses was being shaped, equipped, prepared to fulfill what God had promised Abraham. But this happened at the God appointed time or the Cairo's time or in other words, as we saw in Galatians 4-4, the fullness of time. So what are we saying? God can give us a vision in this case Abraham, in his lifetime in Genesis 15 God already told him this is going to happen. But then Isaac had to be born and the descendants had to come forth and they had to go under Egypt. So the chronos took its time and at the fullness of time or the Cairo's moment of God, God did what he spoke. So in the same manner in our lives we could say that I already know what God is doing through my life this is the vision that God has given me and we may be holding on to that and wondering God why isn't it happening the way you told me that it would. We have to wait on the Lord for the Cairo's moment. So in the fullness of time, suddenly some doors are open you experience a certain anointing it's those Cairo's moments and we could get discouraged thinking nothing's happening. But how does God work? Yes the chronos has to take its time but God works in Cairo's moments or the Cairo's you could say a moment or it could be a season of our lives. So Cairo's season and that's how God initiates and executes the vision. So what are all the things that tend to align during the Cairo's season? Maybe to fulfill our vision we are the vision bearer but there are some other people who need to come alongside and so far that hasn't happened. So God made it preparing putting those people in our lives, putting them in their places and orchestrating the whole plan and purpose together with them. So external there could be some external things that need to line up that is could be people. So the right people need to come into the scene or the place. So maybe God may be wanting to release a revival on a particular city and that place needs to be prepared through intercession, through the right people of God coming into that city and serving, ministering the world. So so many things are taking place in that preparation to that region being prepared for what God really wants to release there. So or an individual you have a call of God on your life and you're thinking this is how you're going to minister but it's not happening where you are. God may take you to another place and maybe that is where he wants to release that ministry through your life. So God is aligning he's aligning people place or it could be the personal things that concern us maybe as a couple God has called you to go and plant a church somewhere but it's just the season of your life right now. Maybe finances are not in order or you know you're very young children and you have to take care of them the kind of time that you want to set aside to do the ministry that's not happening. So there are so many personal things in the seasons that we are going through that are not aligning to what you want to step out with. So there are all these external things that need to line up and in the kairos season or the kairos moments even the external things somehow they seem to be like wow perfect I have the team that I need to step out with. I am in the city where I need to proclaim the gospel and in my personal life we are in a place where we can manage to do this ministry. So externally certain things we need to align and when in the kairos time they align so we must let God have that time of preparation and not get all hassled about I want to do it but it's not happening maybe it's not the right season yet. Now internally these were the external things that needed to line up internally. God is not in a hurry to work through us internally maybe there are hard issues that God is still dealing with in our lives it could be pride it could be selfish ambition it could be other things that God really wants us to mature from or we could be struggling with relationships we really don't know how to deal with people always getting into conflict or not able to work together as a team maybe God is working on all those internal challenges that we may have our maturity our development it could be that in our personal lives we have some issues it's still not in order some disciplines we are not okay God maybe just helping us and saying okay I need you to set all these things right because once you step out once you take on this responsibility you have to keep moving forward then there is no time to come back and correct all these things so put it in order or it could be about us having issues with faithfulness or having a humble and a servant heart while doing the ministry or our character we are still not invested in developing ourselves in Christ like character so these could all be the internal issues and what God is really doing is yes externally as we are praying trusting God taking the right steps externally things are orchestrating themselves in the right manner but even internally you know God is letting us go through that preparation time and preparing us for that Kyros movement so when the Kyros time comes we hopefully are ready to step out okay and there is a passage in the bible it talks about the sons of Issachar and these people apparently they were very sensitive and they understood times and seasons so they had the understanding of times it says so in the same way every vision bearer must have understanding of times like okay is it Kyros yet or am I still I need to prepare for something and when the Kyros movement comes basically you are ready to step out and you are ready to launch out and do what God is calling you to do so that is some insight about the timing the Kyros timing okay let's go further talking about the God given vision this next section says that a vision requires preparation and sometimes this is not talked about but you know it's really important and through every season that we go through in our lives God is preparing us and we must receive what God is doing in our hearts and our lives so God might be clarifying the vision you know we might have just a piece of the puzzle but as we are going through life doing what God has called us to do faithfully right now God might add to it and give us a clarity he might help us develop the skills that we need to serve okay help us move in the gifts of the spirit spiritually become deeper gain more understanding wisdom knowledge and all of that so nothing is really disconnected we might look at our lives and say God you know you have called me to do you know something amazing but what am I doing now it's not all related like if you think about William Carey he was a cobbler okay so what is the connection you're a cobbler and you know finally God uses him as the father of modern missions what can God teach someone from you know making shoes we don't know God has his own ways and we might think that God will just go and take somebody out of Bible college final year and that's the only preparation that individual needs to be the father of modern missions but hey God has his deeper insights so we can question God and say God you know you want me to serve you in this manner why is it that in my life I'm still here doing this job so I'm just telling you about disconnected seasons right that I'm sure even you have been through times like this but God has his ways and nothing is wasted and everything is part of preparation so what we will do we have very little time left I will just pause here in the next class we will look at the preparation time in the lives of some you know wonderful people of God in in the Bible and we'll see how in each one of their lives they went through the way we go through some seasons and don't understand why God would have us go through that they went through seasons but everything was actually used right for God to release that vision through their lives so I'm just going to pause here if at all you have any comments any thoughts let's let's discuss that in the next couple of minutes and we are closing yeah okay great I think maybe all all this information is sinking in so that's also good you could probably just go and read the notes and we can connect next week and we will pick up from where we have stopped we're in chapter 4 we will talk about preparation God given vision requiring preparation okay awesome okay so yeah we're done then for today's class and I would like to request somebody to please pray and then we trap up Abraham is it possible for you to pray yes please do precious father we thank you for such an awesome day we thank you for all that we have learned father our hearts were open our minds were open to receive your word father we pray that even as we practice your word in our individual houses father give us the grace give us the strength to endure to the end father we have learned about carrier's movement father let's at the time of at the time of our manifestation we will never miss it father we thank you for every student here and every student that you've called into your ministry that your faithfulness will be part of us that we are going to be faithful and work hard until you're coming father we thank you for our lectures and all the people that are involved in this college thank you for giving them the grace and the strength also to endure thank you for this day in Jesus name we have prayed amen amen amen thank you so much thank you Abraham that was good so yes God bless you everyone see you again this week in the local church class bye for now God bless you thank you thank you purple purple color really suits you man oh okay thank you so much thank you 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