 Fuckles, career, long on beaten run has come to an end. Her and Rachel Blackmore could only manage third in the Hattons grade hurdle at Ferry House this afternoon. The star mayor came under the race with 16 ones from 16 races, but it's now 16 ones out of 17. And we're gonna stay with horse racing. And I'm delighted to say, joining me on the program, this afternoon is Apprentice Champion Jockeys at Onigoman, Dylan Brown McMonegal. How are you, Dylan? How are you doing, Ashin? I'm not too bad, good to see you, Dylan. You too, how are you keeping? Ah, I'm keeping good, I'm keeping good. Listen, no racing for you this weekend, so how does an Apprentice Champion Jockeys relax on a Saturday and a Sunday, Dylan? No, it's just work is normal. We'll be riding out in the morning times, and we'll just be chillaxing then for the evening, but I was suspended for two days this Friday night, and there's an upcoming Wednesday night in Dundalk, so I'll be back next Friday racing again in full flight. Oh, very good. Well, listen, we're gonna recap on the year. The target, obviously, when you started the year was to be Apprentice Champion Jockey again. You've done that at times, it seemed to be with your ease still, and you were quite comfortable in the Apprentice ranks this year. Were you happy with how the season went, because you really had that title wrapped up, and you had it in the bag from well out, so you had. Yeah, it was fairly plain sailing, and fairness, everything went very smooth from the start of the season. We got off to a really good start, and the ball just kept on rolling the whole way throughout. I got loads of good support, and I got put up on playing two good horses, and I had some big winners along the line as well, which was a bonus, but to get the boot championships was massive. Yeah, it was huge, surely, and I suppose of the ones that you had this year, you picked up your first Group 1, Group 1-1 in Ireland at the Corre on Al-Rifa. That was a big day for you, and a big day for your career? Yeah, it was unbelievable, obviously, to get those kind of opportunities on the big stage in the Corre in a Group 1, and it doesn't get much better than that. So to be able to get the job done for Joseph and the owners on a very exciting horse, it was great. And onwards and upwards now for the future, hopefully it'll be the first of many. Yeah, will you be back on in Al-Rifa again next year and hoping for another Group 1 along the way? Yeah, please, God. He's just on a little break. He finished up first season after he won the National Six actually in the Corre, just giving him a bit of time to strengthen up, and he'll be back bigger and better next year, I'm sure, and he'll be on an exciting colt, I'm sure, for the future. Yeah. What was the other stand-out performances and results that you've set in your mind, Dallin, that you really enjoyed this year? I obviously had a Group 2 winner in France on Brossig, a sprinting Fiddy who climbed up to the ranks very quickly as a three-year-old. She had a couple of big days. I had two Group 3 winners on Tranquil, they had a Group 3 winner on a gear up around Leipzig as well. I won the Apprentice Derby, obviously, for the second time as well, so there are just a couple of highlights. So a very good season all around. And to beat last year's Tally as well on the last day was brilliant. Yeah, just topped it off. You have a great relationship with Joseph O'Brien, so you have? Yeah, we're going very good at the minute. He's looking after us very well, giving me loads of support, and he's not scared to put me up in the big day as well, which is very, very good. And I'm just very grateful for the opportunities. It's not an easy sport. There's plenty of very good riders in the yard with me as well, Shane and Declan and Mikey and all the boys there, so there's plenty of us there with loads of horses, plenty of top-class animals, so I'm just very grateful to be getting the opportunities and getting the results. Yeah, obviously, you'll be out of the Apprentice races next year, but what does Joseph hope for you for next year, Declan? How would he like to see your career progress from where it is now, heading into 2023? I'm not sure. We wouldn't really talk much about that. We just take it as it comes. But obviously, it's going to be my first year without being an apprentice, so I won't be able to ride in Apprentice races, etc. for this season coming. I lost my claim at the start of the year, so I've already rode a season without my claim, so it's going to be the same as that for next year. I'm just going to be missing out in Apprentice races and the Apprentice title, but I'll be a professional next season, so I'll need to pull up my socks and be at my best. I'm sure you will. Listen, Martin Harley at the moment is going well in Australia. I think he's eight or nine ones down under, and he's decided to commit there. And obviously, Jocky's at this time of year decided to go to other countries to race, Declan. I hear you're going to be heading to Dubai shortly. Yeah, Martin's getting on very good. It's good to see his change working out for him anyway, and he's getting on good. But yeah, during the winter, obviously, when the Irish flat season finishes up and the English, a lot of riders go out far into America, Australia, Dubai, et cetera, for different races. Because the season, obviously, is only getting going out far in Dubai, et cetera. So I'm going out there in January to Bupetsumar for the month of January, so it's something to look forward to as well. And it'll be a breakaway from everything as well. Yeah. What kind of horses are you going to be riding out there? And I suppose what's the contact out there for you, Don? Yeah, Bupetsumar is obviously a very high-class train out there. I'm just going out there to ride out and get some experience just to see a different part of the world and learn the ropes over there. And hopefully I might be lucky enough to get a few rides around Dubai as well. That would be just a bonus, but I'm just going over there for the experience, working, et cetera, meet new people, and learn as much as I can. Just overall in the sport, obviously we were watching you with the pony races and running around the country, and we were all talking about Don Brown and Monago when you were going to make the step up. But who was your idol in the horse racing world when you were younger, Don? Who was it that you looked up to? Because you're in a position now where young jockeys who are coming through the pony ranks are watching what Don Brown and Monago's doing. When you were that age, who was your idol? Who were you looking up to? I always looked up to the riders that used to ride pony racing for Adrian, which was like East Anahu, Racer, Ryan, Shane Foley, all those kind of guys. Obviously Ryan, Mara, Colin, Keane, all the top riders, they'd be looking up to them all. And it's really, there's plenty of good top class riders in the country to be looking up to, and they're all absolute gents, and they can't do enough free as well when you're looking for advice. But obviously the pony racing was a big help for me. I wouldn't be where I am without it today because up in Donegal, there's obviously no racing background at all, really. There's only a handful of trainers up there, Charlie. Charlie, Mara's obviously the main one. He's going well at the minute. Kyle obviously has a couple of horses with him and Declan and the boys, and they're getting on good. So it's not a massive racing world up there. So without the pony racing, I definitely wouldn't have got into horses with my uncle Adrian and Hugh, and my whole family wouldn't have had horses only for the pony racing. So that's what got me into it, and that's where the bug comes from, really, and that's where I took off from the start. You mentioned him on there, Charlie. Mara, you rode a couple of owners this year for him. Did you don't? We did, yeah. We had plenty of luck together. We've got a strike rate, but now the horses were running well for him all season, and he deserves the success, I guess, and it's not easy being way up north and then he got just outside Letter County there with a couple of horses, because taking on the big boys down here with hundreds of horses in the yard, it's not simple. So Charlie does a great job. Johnny obviously rides out for him as well, and Owen goes in my hand, et cetera, and I'm sure there's plenty behind the scenes as well, it goes on in hard work, but now we've got good results this season, and hopefully next year will be as good. I know we mentioned Martin, Harley, who's down under. We'll mention another jock, and I know your big buddy's with him, and your friend's from Washington, currently with Richard Fahey in the north of England. He had a really, really good week last week, so we had four owners in the one night. It wasn't a bad night's work for him, Dylan, was it? No, definitely. He deserves the success he gets as well. He works very hard. It wasn't easy, obviously, going over and making the change over to England, but he hit the ground running, and he's going very good. He's in a big stable over there. They're looking after him really good, but he's a top man. He's a very, very good rider. He works hard at his weight, et cetera, and the results show. Do you have much baller with the weight and keeping fitness going, Dylan? No, you just try your best to stay as fit as you can as possible, but my weight's good at the minute, so I don't have to worry too much about it, just staying fit and healthy is the main one, really. What keeps you fit? What sort of training do you do? Well, during the summer, when we're racing every day and how does summer like the race, and we'd be racing every day, so we wouldn't even have time to be going to the gym and stuff. It would only be on the days off, and in the wintertime that you'd be going to the gym and using the simulator and treadmills and going swimming, et cetera, but during the summer, we'd be race fit. We could have three or four or five, six rides every day, so that keeps you fit. You'd be doing plenty of travelling, so it's training as well, but once you get fit at the start of the season, it usually holds off then throughout, but we were up early in the morning working hard right now before we go racing as well, and you wouldn't be like too late, so it's not that easy, but you just have to try your best. How do you relax then? You have your own wind after a busy day of riding and working hard in the stable. What does it do to relax still? The only time we really get to relax when we're racing in the summer is in the way home in the car. If we're not driving, we get to snooze for a couple of hours, that's about it, but when we get back, we get a bit of food and be straight to bed and back out to the next day, but it's a full-time job seven days a week, and you just have to enjoy it really. I'm very lucky. I've got plenty of support and I'm getting good success, which makes my life a lot easier. Lestin, you'll be home for Christmas? You'll go back for a few days? I will be, yeah. I'm from home in the 22nd, I think after the last meeting in Dundalk for a week or so, and I'm sure I'll be back over the New Year as well, and then I'll be gone to Dubai for January, so I'm really looking forward to it now and getting home and seeing everyone. Christmas is definitely my favourite time in the year to get home and spending time with family, so it'll be good to see everyone again. We might see you over the Christmas period. Dylan Brown-McMonagall. Many thanks for joining us today and we wish you all the best with your continued success. Thanks for joining us. Thanks very much. So there you go, Dylan Brown-McMonagall. Apprentice, champion Jockey, of course, for the second year in a row, and he's heading off to Dubai now in January. We're just going to experience, I suppose, horse racing in a different part of the world, in a different culture, and again we wish him all the success to turn off the year. 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