 I mean, I think every week is different, but I think that there's certainly a lot of positives from that in the rhythm and the efficiency and allowing plays to complement each other. So I mean, that would be great. I'm all for production sooner rather than later. Is there a cap on play action? Like, is there a certain point at which you say too much is diminishing returns? You did really well with what you did, but you didn't do a great, great deal. Well, I think it's about timing and picking and choosing your spots and getting a rhythm and a feel for when pressure may come. Sometimes some of those run actions, the protection could be stressed based on a pressure or look that you get. So sometimes we get out of it. But I don't think that there is a cap. You just want to be balanced and be able to pick and choose your spots. And we were able to hit a couple of them the other day. Would the person-wise always go up? Is there something to that? Well, it's hard to drop back and just straight drop back in this league and protect against some of the rushes that we've seen early in the first couple of weeks. And that'll be the same this week. So staying out of those downed distances where you've got to get a bunch of people out or you've got to get a certain depth. So I think that that's probably the case throughout the week. Just looking at Cleveland, that's something that they like to do with the Sean. Play action, sometimes move the pocket. So yeah, just trying to mix it up and trying to be able to create some double teams inside or some combination blocks on some of those interior guys and then get a couple of hands on the edge rushers. You were positioned to cover a lot of those as a player. What's kind of outside of the discipline that it requires to what makes it hard? Well, it's a successful run game. You're trying to create spaces. You're trying to get guys into areas and voids of the football field. And if you can't get the linebackers up, well, then you probably shouldn't throw the ball inside around the hashes. Or maybe we had a favorable look last week, trailing one. And Chris won and we were able to throw the ball downfield. I think that they commit to running football, to strengthen their football team is up front, I would say, on both sides of football they don't have good skill players or good linebackers or DBs. But as far as two units, two really good fronts offensive line that's played together for a while. I know they're mixing, moved Ethan in there and then obviously Jones. But they've run the football forever consistently. I know Chubb's got a lot to do with that. But so did this offensive line. They hit a couple big runs in Pittsburgh. Cooper is able to create and joke. They use all the tight ends. And then Moore has got a cool little package. And it looks like the Sean likes him a little bit and they're doing some things with him in the backfield and handing it to him and trying to throw it to him. Would you like a forward and do you think maybe they're built for the next guy to step in kind of the way you were when Derek went there? I think so. I mean, they gave him the ball and since that he didn't have as effective of a game. But certainly a guy that you saw was tackled in the backfield and was able to make nine yards out of being hit in the backfield at four yards, was able to stop cut, change direction and circle up to defense for a big momentum changing play the other night. So would anticipate, see what they do with Hunt coming in. Passes like Berks, you know, weren't able to snack those guys. What's key for others here is being able to do that. Well, just still trying to be able to maintain your speed down the field and through contact and getting off the line of scrimmage. I think a lot of that is timing and being able to get off the line of scrimmage and still run. I think trailing was a little different than Chris's. Chris, there was a lot of contact there. So being able to track the ball and still maintain your speed. You're not giving much up through the air or on the ground. Not a whole lot of anything. How challenging is that? How do you get a game plan for that situation? Trying to gain yards against a good defense, a bunch of good players on the road, just making sure that, again, we're staying efficient. And they've had 25 snaps, a second and eight or nine plus, which leads to a third and 10 and third and long. And guys are talented and playing fast. So just trying to stay ahead of the chains and like we did the other day. Again, it wasn't perfect, but it was closer to what we want to look like. I know that the rating that these analytics sites can put out are not necessarily gospel, but both weeks, Chris Hubbard seemed to grade out fairly well. How has he done in your eyes at that right tackle spot? I think Chris has been efficient. And he's played some winning football and he's done some good things for us and kind of like how he's come in here and worked and prepared and love his attitude. So again, it's off to a good start. Garrett may be different than what Chris has dealt with so far. I don't think there's too many guys walking the earth like Miles Garrett. So we'll be in for a huge challenge. You're playing against Ashon. I know you guys are familiar with him. Does he look relatively the same as he did when he was in division? Or is his style changed at all over the last couple years? No, I don't think his style has changed. Extends plays. He's got great play strength in the pocket to wait out receivers to get him through to the second window. Extends plays. He's got length and stiff arm and will scramble and can run to get what he needs to get to. He can throw the ball to all parts of the field. The Browns run deep. I believe they're tied with you guys for a third in the league. What is it about them that makes them so stout? Well, I mean, they gap up. I mean, they gap you up and they attack. They penetrate. They run. They fast. They tackle. Safety's are good players. Delphi's made a lot of tackles in and around the line of scrimmage. But they force you to get into the line of scrimmage and to block them. When you're going against a run defense like that, that's so good. How much do you factor in? OK, I want to dictate what I want to do against them regardless of the outcome. Or do you just look at it where you just kind of? I don't want to throw the ball 50 times and think that we can beat the Browns by throwing it 50 times because they've got a good run defense. I mean, I don't think that's the answer. But we'll have to stay balanced and have to set up plays and hope that they complement each other. But just because they're good against the run and I think we should pass it 50 times. Peter out guard is a good spot for Dylan to kind of help you out. Is there a plan yet as to what his role could be after Peter's back with inside-outside? No, I mean, I thought Dylan did a great job for his first action and excited to see him continue to progress and get back out there and help us and play. And we'll see where things are tomorrow. And see where things are on Friday and whenever anything else happens. I'm sure there'll be something else that happens between now and the time that Nick Petite comes back to play for us. Just a hunch. How is Peter doing? He's doing OK. Any hope that he can play someday given what he went through? I don't think that it wouldn't anticipate Peter being out there this week. Maybe due to Aaron at the Standard Elevation call-ups the past couple of weeks, and now Aaron's got a place on the 53rd. Very coachable. He kind of knows who he is. He plays within himself, plays within the scheme. Technique and just kind of been a good addition here. I think they'll both practice today. So better than what they were last week. You guys have focused a ton on stopping the run here. Obviously, how important is it that if you've been able to pretty much do that the first couple of weeks and how important will it be to do that again to stay with him this week? It'll be important. It'll always be important, but we have to do a better job of the X plays on first and second down, and the communication there. Not to say that the stop of the run is not important, but we have to make sure that we're affecting the quarterback and making sure that guys are covered like they were at times. And then, unfortunately, just some X plays or some loose coverages. I guess for clear vacations, that doesn't mean Amani is a clear protocol. Not officially. There's a process to it that includes a practice or two before officially clearing, but he's clear to practice. Kind of a unique role in your program. Did that play out how you envisioned over the course of the two years and how much of an impact did he have on you? Well, one, I think it did play out. I thought it was something that we had great conversations. I thought that it had to be right for him. It had to be right for us, make sure that it was in the role that he was looking for at that point in time in his career. I think the impact was by everybody. It was coaching staff, players. Always appreciate what Jim provided to the coaches, to our staff, help on game day. Anything that we asked him to do or Shane asked him to do, he did. Then he kind of started on wanting to transition or have an opportunity to coordinate again. And so he was honest and upfront with me. And him and I, we communicated. And then he had had a few opportunities. And he felt like this one was the right one for him and the timing worked out. So I was happy for him that he was able to come here, stay involved, help us, and then also now go and coordinate. His familiarity with a lot of the defensive personnel, is that something that he can be used against you guys? Or is it, sometimes it's easy to overthink when you think you know somebody too well. You'd have to ask Jim whenever they have availability at it. I don't know. They're holding, I think the numbers, 48.3% completions against them. What are they doing so well in past defense? They got a nose guard that sprints off the ball. They got a three technique that sprints off the ball. And they got two edge rushers that come flying in there. Mixed a couple of different coverages. They got a bunch of good players over there. So it'll be a huge challenge. We started executing. I think it started coming together for us. We were able to get points going into halftime. We got three points going into halftime. We were able to come out and score in the second half. And when you're efficient on first and second down, keep yourselves in third and manageable, then are able to hit big plays when they come. You're going to give yourself a good opportunity to score. What are the things that kind of dictate how much or how little play action you'll do in the game? You had great success on play action, obviously, in this game, but only nine snaps worth. So what kind of dictates the size of the envelope? A lot of things go into that. Defenses that they're playing, coverages, pressures, how we feel about the different protections that we're running, the route concepts with the coverages that we're getting. You have a plan going into the game, then you're trying to figure it out as the game goes on, like what you're seeing primarily, and make adjustments from there. How much does that help you with that play action as far as how it helps to move linebackers or defenders out of the place that you might attack? Yeah, when guys step up, it obviously creates some holes on the back end. We've seen that for a number of years here, as well as Derek runs it and we're able to be efficient running the football, then linebackers have to step up and fill those holes and create some space behind them. There's two more players here today. Not only those drives, but kind of the rest of the game in terms of how the defense looks at you. Well, that makes an impact. Obviously, make some big plays downfield and create some awareness of what can happen. And then shortens those drives, like I mentioned after the game, you're able to hit those chunk plays. And it shortens the number of plays that's going to take the score. You got that play call, right? You got the thing. The Chargers have scored. You have made two yards of ball picks. Tim Kelly tells you that the play call, like, do you get excited? What's going to be your mind that you're hearing that? You know what's about that. Yeah, I knew we were going to have a chance. Didn't know, obviously, what coverage is they're going to play if you're going to have a chance at the deep one or have a chance at the cross, right? There's limited number of options in that play, but a coverage really dictates where the ball can go in that play. So I wasn't sure exactly where the ball was going to go. And then I saw a good coverage pre-snap, and we were able to hit it to trailing. What about your concerns emotionally? You're struggling at the ground? They're fast physical defense. You see them flying around aggressive, penetrating front. Their d-line is strong. Obviously, we know their edge players and the talent that they have out there. Their inside guys are penetrating as well, just being disruptive. Their backers are flying around. They're playing extremely fast, seeing what's going on quickly, diagnosing it and playing physical and fast. Secondary, they're doing a good job of getting their hands on footballs and being in good spots. They have talent out there. So you look across the board, I have a ton of respect for this defense and what they can do. Obviously, Coach Swartz was here and just a great coach and been around a long time. Done a lot of good things over the course of his career. So a ton of respect for what they're doing right now, and we're going to have to play well. Touchdown catch for you on Sunday on a third goal and then against the Saints. He also made a couple of plays for you late. What does Nick Westbrook and Keenan, what does he do that kind of earns your trust in those clutch situations? Nick's consistent. He's been the same guy and steady improvement since he got here, I don't remember exactly, three or four years ago now. Just a guy comes to work each and every day. You know what you're getting from him. He's consistent. He practices and exactly what he does in practice and what he does in the game. And he showed up big for us on a number of occasions. Does some dirty work for us and then obviously has the talent to make plays for us outside. So thankful to have Nick on our team. We can move him around in a lot of different spots. So he's a versatile player who adds a lot of value to our team. You know how good this defense is. How important was it to have such a good game against the Charters for confidence and for the team's confidence? Yeah, we're trying to win one game at a time. We weren't thinking about this week last week, you know, but it's good to get a win, get things going in the right direction. Now we just want to start stacking those wins. Brian, what do you mean by just setting the passcatchers and daringly challenging it? Combined for a hundred and thirty or thrush, you can just spread it around like that. Does that count the base of what this offense can be, do you think? Yeah, the more weapons you can get involved, obviously the more dangerous you're going to be. We have a bunch of talent on the team and the more we can get everyone involved and guys who have proven to help us over the course of training camp in the first few weeks, you know, we want to get those guys' touches as well. Brian, you touched on the grounds defense. I think a lot of the U.S. passing and rushing first downs will leak so far. How do you approach that challenge? Yeah, we're going to have to play well. Obviously I mentioned how they're playing. They're playing really good football. They're aggressive. They're pressuring, being disruptive, up front. This is a really, really solid defense and makes it really challenging. So offensively we're going to have to be at our best, execute and just know, you know, not every play is going to be perfect, but we just got to keep fighting, keep playing and take advantage of opportunities when they come. The first field line, did you have a pretty good feeling the other day we played during the course of last week and how were you guys able to kind of manage to kind of be on the same page for a couple of big complices without having to practice? Yeah, I didn't know. I was talking to Hop throughout the week but didn't really know what was going to happen come Sunday, you know, since he wasn't able to go throughout the week. But, you know, we had built up some reps throughout the course of training camp. That's why I mentioned just him practicing over training camp was so crucial just building that trust and that relationship. And so, you know, even though he didn't practice throughout the week, he was able to come in to make some huge plays for us. First down passing really set you guys up against the Chargers. How refreshing is that to be in such good down and distant situations? And what can you guys do to kind of carry that forward and continue it? Yeah, we want to be efficient, you know, whether it's a run, whether it's a pass. If you can be efficient on first and second down to keep yourselves in third and manageable, then you're going to create more opportunities to extend drives and to score points, right? So being in second and long, third and long is tough place to live in this league. You know, you're not going to convert too many third and 10 pluses over the course of a season, you know, percentage wise. So if we can keep ourselves in third and manageable by being efficient on first and second down, that's going to be, obviously, like it is for every team, a big factor in sustaining drives. How enjoyable was it to keep looking at, do you look at the board? Do you look at the sticks to know the down? Do you just know it? And to know you were in second and medium or short so often? Yeah, I look at both of the combination of the two. Yeah, it's a good place to be, right? Because it opens up a lot of your playbook when you're in normal down and distance, you're not in get back on track, and you're able to really call anything you want to at that point and not be pigeonholed to get back on track. Was it key to require receivers to stack and put down for how much of that help members, especially the perks, play, how about being stacked with the media? Yeah, it was a great job. He just played fast, man. Traylin's a big, strong physical guy, and when he gets going like that, he's tough to slow down. So a great job of playing with speed and then second level release with his hands in order to get on top of that DB and make the big play. How well do you know Miles Garrett with the A&M connection? Are there any things you've seen or stories you've heard that kind of stand out about just how special he is? Yeah, I don't know him well. I think I've met him once or twice just after playing against him, but this is a special player. You see a guy who's got the size and strength, but then he also has the speed. So he's an extremely talented player that I have a ton of respect for. He's disruptive. He has every kind of rush in the book. You see him bend in the corner and getting low like some speed guys do, and then you also see him pushing the tackle back like power guys do. So really a tough guy to block, especially consistently and a ton of respect for him. Ryan, in this league, guys can go from being the person that everyone wants ridden out of town on a rail one week to the hero the next week. With your experience, does that maybe help you deal with going from the opener to the performance that you turned in on Sunday? Yeah, I don't ride that wave. I know a lot of people, especially outside the buildings, ride those waves, but personally, take it one week at a time, improve on the things that try to improve on the things that you want to each and every week and go out and play football and not let one week roll into the next. I think there's completion in the first few years in regards to the police so far this year and then about, did it feel that way to you? When was the last time you remember throwing a ball like that, that long? I don't know, not something to think about a whole lot. But yeah, it felt good. I had great protection primarily as where it started, right? I was able to kind of step into that throw. Obviously, trailing was playing fast, really just came off the ball and ran 40-yard dash for however many yards it ended up being. So I was able to just cut it loose and throw it up the top. Come out easy, or are you really putting a lot of oomph on that? I don't know what your question is. I mean, when you're throwing a ball that many areas, are you at this stage putting everything you've got into it, or is it? No, not everything, but yeah, it's a far throw, so you're definitely putting some muscle into it. You're looking at the red zone efficiency that you guys have helped a lot. Yeah, I enjoy running football. It's something that I think adds an element to our offense that defenses have to account for. Last year was limited with the ankle for a lot of the season and was just trying to be able to move a little bit in the pocket and wasn't able to run too much outside. But yeah, I think it adds an element to our offense and helps us. Triple option there. You've got that ability that, you know, be able to run the way that you can fit in. Yeah, no question. Triple option there. Can you kind of talk us through seeing that play in the playbook the first time, installing it, and working all the way up to using it? Yeah, I don't remember exactly. It was in training camp sometime. We put it in and maybe it was in the spring, put it in and run it several times over the course of the past several months. It's looked good in practice and it was awesome to be able to hit it in the game. Can you fake the pitch with that much space at the end? Are you surprised, the degree to which it worked, it sold? No, I mean, I've seen it work in practice as well. You know, when you have Derek running out there, it helps, you know, they think you're gonna get him the ball and, you know, took the bait. You have a different style of play. What was your second best sport growing up and how far do you think you would have gotten if you focused on it? My second best sport. I played a lot of sports growing up. You know, in high school, I played football, basketball, baseball, track, and even one year golf. So I played a lot of sports, you know, I think playing a lot of sports can help you develop athletically as you move around and learn, played soccer growing up when I was younger. My second best sport was probably basketball or track. I was decent at that mid-level, you know, 300 hurdles, 400 triple jump, you know. So those two were probably my next favorites besides football. What was your average job? I don't know. I don't know. You're gonna have to go dig deep in some, they won't be in the record books, but they'll be in some kind of books.