 Okay. Good morning and welcome to this week's edition of Encompass Live. I am your host, Krista Porter here at the Nebraska Library Commission. Encompass Live is the Commission's weekly webinar series where we cover a variety of topics that may be of interest to libraries. The live show is, we broadcast the show live every Wednesday morning at 10 a.m. central time, but if you're unable to join us on Wednesdays, that's fine. You can always go to our website at your convenience and watch our archives when we record, because we do record the show every week. And I'll show you at the end of today's show where you can access all of our archives and see all of our shows. If they're, we record and show, we put up under the archives the actual video of the show. If there are any presentations or slides or handouts or documents that are presented, we also include links to those as well. If we don't, we just have websites that are part of the shows we're gonna do today. Yeah. We do a mixture of things here on Encompass Live, book reviews, interviews, demos, mini training sessions, basically anything that, the only real criteria of the show is that something for libraries, something libraries are doing, something we think they should be doing, products and services they think they might want to try out, new programs or things they might want to do. It's really a huge mishmash. The Nebraska Library Commission is the state agency for all libraries in the state, so we have things that are for public, academic, K-12 schools, correction facilities, special libraries. We run the gamut, just anything that's a library. We do bring in guest speakers sometimes to talk about things, but we also have Nebraska Library Commission staff that come on and do presentations for us as well. And that's what we have this morning with me today is Sally Snyder, and she is our coordinator of children's and young adult services. Library services guy, that's a long title. Sometimes I just say service as coordinator because it's faster. True, yeah, but it's for children and teen. Yes. Yes. And today she's going to talk about grants that we have, and actually on our website, we've got a thing here, youth grants for excellence that are just recently opened up to be available. So this is grants we have here at the Nebraska Library Commission for Libraries, so I'll just hand it over to you to go ahead and start explaining and talking about it. Well, I hadn't noticed that that was there, so I'm mad, but what I want to do, Chris is going to be my driver because I forgot to get an extra mouth. If you go to children and YA on the side here and then look way over to the bottom of more, there's youth grants for excellence, and that will take you if you click on that to this main explanation page, and it has a lot of explanation there, but I had to put it somewhere. So if you're wondering about things, you can look here and the second short paragraph there says visit the FAQ. If you would click on the FAQ please. This has some general information there and then a few specifics, and I want to hit the who is eligible to apply, and the answer to that is accredited live public libraries can apply. In the next sentence, it says schools, unaccredited public libraries, service agencies and or organizations may be involved through collaborative planning and programming with an eligible public library. So if you're a school and you want to do a project with your public library who is accredited, that's great. Or if you're an unaccredited library, look around for a nearby accredited library and see if they're interested in whatever it is you would like to do and you can work together for that. Our only requirement about that, well we have of course the whole thing about the application form, but if you're partnering with an unaccredited public library or a school or one of these other groups, anything that you purchase with the grant funds, 51% of that has to go and be housed in the accredited public library and up to 49% can be housed at the unaccredited or library or the school or wherever else. If you're working with an organization that does after school programming for example and they want to have Legos there too or something, that's our requirement about where things will end up. So the groups, the institutions that are eligible are the, there's two actually, the accredited public libraries or state-run institutional libraries, which we do not necessarily accredited. We don't. Yes, we don't. Yeah, so either one of those. So those be the, if you are partnering, if you're not one of those kinds of places and you partner with them, they have to have it, 51% of the stuff, if physical, whatever there is. Yeah. What are those little little bits or bitty things? Sorry. Yeah, that's actually, yeah. Yeah, some of them, the robot things and whatnot. Right, robot things are fun. Yeah. So I wanted to be sure and point that out. Now if you will back up, there's other answers there, but and this main page will, will take you to places that, well, mostly it takes you back to the FAQ if it doesn't have the answer right there on the page. I was trying to make this page a little shorter, but it didn't work. And this year, the application is due by 1159.59 on October 15th. That's a Monday. So far, I'll be here at the library commission if you have last minute questions. You know, I'm going to show you the application form and kind of walk you through how to fill it out and what it might, when it says, this isn't working, how you can troubleshoot that. But also you can call me. I'll be out of town the week before, but I will be in the office on Monday, the 15th. So if, if you have questions the week I'm gone, call Krista. Krista knows everything. I'll try. Or you can ask Janet, because she sets up the whole program. They still have about a full three and a half weeks from today for the deadline. Yeah. And the form's actually been able, I mean, we're doing the, the session right now, but the, it actually went up and became available a couple of weeks ago. It wasn't the beginning of September, late August. Okay. Sorry, I've been out there for a bit. Yeah. I received some applications. Yeah. So far. So if we scroll down to the bottom of this page, we will hit the application form. So the evaluation form is what we use to look at the applications and say, did they have include this, did they include that? So we put it up here so you can look and see, oh yeah, they do check if I have a plan or not. Oh dang, I have to have a plan. Yes please. But down a little bit, there's the online form, the short form and the long form. I go with the long form because it has just a little bit more than the short form. I don't want to look at that. Let's look at that. So again, we have some information and I'm glad that not is in red because I almost forgot to mention this. C number six, the online form will not allow you to enter information on the part of the form, leave and return later to finish it. It all disappears. Okay. So no saving. No saving. Sorry. So we recommend you write it up in a different word processing program, whatever you use, save it, tweak it, show it to somebody. We'll get to that in a minute. And then when you feel like you're ready, you can just copy and paste it into here. And there's a lot less headache for you because that's what we're going for. So is there a, so what they could do is look at this first. Yes. See what the questions are. Right. This is an online form that you enter into here. So you will be, as you can see here, you know, you do type into here, but maybe print out this page or something to have a cheat sheet to work from. That's a great idea. So that you know what you need to do, write it up somewhere else, and then you can just do a copy and paste, copy and paste each question into here. And something else you need to know when you're ready to fill out the form for sure and submit it, you have to put something in every blank. It might be none. And we'll talk about that a little later, but you have to put in your name and your library and your phone number and your email address and all that basic info. Yeah. And project title is up to you, whatever you want to call it. Legos are good. I don't know. I'm hitting on Legos today. Then under selected category of grant project, that used to be pretty important, but now it's more of a general idea of what are you celebrating books? Are you doing book discussion groups? So that's a big space there. You don't have to fill it up. If you have a lot to say, it'll expand for you. Oh, well, yeah, actually, you can see that. There's a little, there's a tiny little, you can just barely see it here, little dots. So yeah, if you need more space, don't think that what you see here is what you're limited to. You can write as long as you need to. Because what we want is information, details. Now, I was noticing here at the top of this, before we scroll down too far, that it does mention a long form for projects requesting grant amount of more than $1,000. So that's the difference between long and the short is just how much money you're asking for. And the short form has a, it's a little shorter. So I mean, it's called short, so there must be less to it in some way. It's a little shorter, but not a whole lot shorter, but don't tell me money. But the obvious difference is definitely the amount of money you think you need. Make sure you use the right one. And then the shorter one will ask slowly. If it would kind of make sense, you're doing, obviously, it may be a smaller project, you might need less, we might need less info to evaluate it. Always need more info. Always need more than what we get. I can only remember one time that I received a grant that had all the information I could ever hope for. Steve Hoffman, Grand Island Public Library. Oh, I picked one. Wonderful. He filled it out and it had all the information. Okay, so we'll scroll down a little more. Now we've talked about project title, selected category of grant project. Put something in here because otherwise it'll say, hey, you didn't fill this out. Every field needs to have something. Think about what it is you're doing and just put a description. And like I said, now under goals, this is tempting because it gets bigger. And occasionally people will put in like five or seven goals. You don't, one, one is fine. What is your goal? Maybe two. More goals do not necessarily mean, oh, we're finding this one because it has seven goals. It doesn't mean we want all seven, they're never going to get all that done. Forget it. No, it's what you really think your goals are. So, but don't feel like you have to make up. So you have three. If your goal is to celebrate books by having kids enjoy whatever your party is, then that's your goal. It's okay. Now, number three, this is probably the most important one. And probably the one that you will have be the biggest. And as you copy and paste in there, it will expand automatically. Nice. It all goes in there. Here's, now I have to turn to my other page because this is my page of what keeps a grant from being funded. I was fine. You're getting a little cut off there. Number one thing that keeps a grant from being funded is lack of details. So if you're thinking we're going to do six programs for teens this summer, it'll be great. And you put in their six programs for teens to come to the library and have fun. Tell us what you're thinking. I think that some of the time people are confused that if they put it in here and they say, wait, I have it written down. Okay. For our program, we're going to, we're going to have a program on geocaching, and then we're going to have one on teens discussing their favorite reads and one Mario card tournament. And then we're going to have another program on geocaching as a follow-up to the first one. Put those down. They don't have to be a whole lot of detail. But if you've already kind of thought about, I think these programs will be popular and this is what the kids are going to come to. Maybe it's board gaming night and then Mario card another night or put it in there. Well, as you get ready to actually do your program, you don't have to do those. This is a plan, basically. So it's not in stone. Things may change when you finally get to really doing it. And you realize the way they don't actually like Mario Kart anymore. They like something else. So we'll just use a different game. I mean, right. We're going to do, I don't know what the most my nephew, what is he playing? I forget. So that's fine. Things change. And we know that. But we want to see that you've done some planning and you have some ideas. And what does it do exactly have in mind? Are the kids all coming to the library for each program or a couple of them somewhere else? Like at the park next door and you're going to do, I don't know what. When you come up with it, I don't have to. Yay. But that's really important. What are you thinking of doing? Along with this is in order to get a grant, you have to have at least one program for your target audience. Back when we were funding all workstations, people sent in an application for an all workstation, but they didn't have a program. So I'd have to call them on the phone and say, if you want funding, you need to have a program. Oh, we're going to have an open house and everybody's going to, okay, then that's a program. And that's the thing that's, I think a key for these grants. There's different grants that have different reasons for existing, I guess, the grant. And there are grants that are just, we need new computers for something, we need furniture for this, we need equipment, and that's the only reason. And you may in those kind of grants say, because we need like, we need the computer workstations because we need something to focus for the kids. And there are other grants that that's all you need to say is why. This one in particular, that's the important thing is you're having an actual event, something you're going to do with it, not just we want the stuff, but okay, that's great. You want the all workstation, which we don't do those anymore, but or we want the Legos, we want the little bits, robot things. Okay, that's great. But then what are you going to do when you have them? You've got to have a plan, not just I want the cool new thing that everyone's talking about. What are you going to do with it after you get it? And if your whole idea is passive programming, we're going to get the little bits, this box out there and that box out there, then that's a thing. That's a program. Passive programming is a program. So say that we're going to do passive programming. We're going to set the new box out every Tuesday or whatever it is you're thinking of. And it's just open time to come in and do you want with the new stuff. You also have the option of saying we're going to have an open house. I love open houses because people come in and get cookies and Kool-Aid. Kool-Aid is a great. I like Kool-Aid. But you can say we're going to invite the teens in to see all this stuff that we have, and then we're going to explain to them how we're going to set them out once a week for them to mess with. And that's the whole idea. But it doesn't, you know, if you have passive programming, that works. But say that, yeah. Now you hit something that I think I better repeat. Okay. We, with the youth grants, we're no longer funding any kind of computer, any kind of furniture or food. We've never had been able to do food. Now your local match, which we'll talk about later, can do that, can be the food or for the table that you need, you can use your local match money for that. It's just you can't use the grant money for that. So you do have to create, so I get obviously part of this is here's our budget, and how much money we need for the whatever. And then here's how we're going, what we're going to do with the local match monies. Right. Perfect. Now down to number four over here on this fascinating application form. Now I say detail timeline. It used to just say timeline, but then people would say February, order stuff, March, put it out, August, write report. Well, that's not detailed enough. A little bit more would be nice. I'm not expecting you to say February 2nd, turn in order, February 15th, process books. No, let's not go there. But put in there, you're going to purchase the books or the little bits and whatever and have them ready to go. So February 1st, you're going to purchase whatever. March 1st, you're going to have everything ready to go. March 15th is the first day you put out items on the table or whatever you're doing. Just so again, along with the program description, you're showing us that you've done some planning. You figured out what you want to get, when you're going to get it and when you're going to start actually having things out for kids to do. So that's helpful. But if something goes wrong or changes, that's okay. Yeah. That's the thing too. You don't get in trouble for not sticking to your exact timeline. If for some reason you go to purchase the Legos and there's a delay in shipping and that's out of your control or a delay in payment or something, that's okay. You just adjust for that and do your thing. After at the end, when you're done and I assume you do a final report, you can then explain here's what actually happened. Original timeline was this, but because of whatever and this is explained in whatever. This is why we had to change it. So if you're doing the team program, for example, or grades four to six or whatever, and you applied for Legos, and then you just, you got a big gift batch of Legos from some nice person in your community. So you don't need to buy more. Why don't we buy a little bit? Well, email me. Say, here's what happened. A generous person donated boxes and boxes of Legos. We just don't really need any more. What if we did this and changed our program? As long as it's for the same age group and it's generally the same thing we're doing after school programming or we're doing Saturday programming and this is something we want to use with it, that's okay. It's when you completely change focus that I have to say, well, we gave you this grant for this age group for this activity. For this purpose, yeah. And now you want to buy preschool books, but I understand that you need them, but no, not so much. So we're always willing. We want to work with you and making sure you can do something cool with the monies we're giving. So that's okay. Just email me and say, well, things have changed. Okay, that's what do you want to do instead? Let me know. Now, number five, identify youth service need on which this project is based. This doesn't have to be hard. This is just a little bit of something like the parents in my community have been noticing the kids, you know, you don't have this and the kids are asking about it. Our kids are asking for something or you yourself have noticed, you know, the library down the road, they have whatever. And I think that would be pretty great for us. So we're going to give it a try. The big thing is give it a try. Yeah. So just a couple of sentences. That's kind of like where you got the idea from is what that is. Yeah, very much. Why do you think this will work in your community? What is it and what do you think it'll do? Background information. That is helpful. One of my suggestions is, a few years ago, a public library wanted to do an activity in their community and they noted, one sentence, Paxton does not have a movie theater. Oh, wow. Okay. Okay. I didn't know that. And they put that right in there. A lot of background information. We don't have a movie theater. We want to do some movies for kids. We've got the movie license from the state. Yay. So that's great. You don't have a movie theater or other things like that. Some lots of people put in here things like looking at the and this is good, not saying it's bad. This is good. Our community has 300 children, ages five and under and we want to do puppets or whatever it is you're doing. For this, we know we have enough kids in our community that they will get a good turnout, we think, for this activity. And that brings you to number seven targeted number of views. I get lots of different replies to this. Sometimes people put in 300 because they have 300 kids in their community that are the age they're aiming at. That's okay. I'm looking, generally, I'm looking for how many are you hoping will come in the library for this activity? Realistically. Yeah, realistically. Or it dream a little bit. Maybe. So let's say 25 or you say, wouldn't it be great if we had 30, 40? You're not held, again, you're not held to this number. This is just something you're thinking might happen. At least you thought about how much you need to potentially prepare. Yes. If there is going to be 30 kids coming on, could you handle it? How many little snowmen do you have? Do you think you should have ready to go for your activity? Yeah, those kinds of things. And number eight is, again, a planning thing. Who's going to be doing this? If you have a children's librarian, that's probably who's going to be doing it. If you're the only librarian at your library is probably you and maybe a board member who's volunteering with you. Just so you have a, we have an idea of, yeah, you've thought about the time that's going to take to prepare for this and do it, and who's going to do it. So then number nine is plans for finding staff and time for this additional project. I don't think you have that on the shorter form. That might be one thing that's gone from that one. But that's kind of a follow up to number eight. Who's going to do it and how are you going to get the time for them? If you're adding something new you need to figure, think about if we're doing this new project, we're going to have to time management wise, readjust what else we do in our job so that we can do this. And am I going to pull in some volunteers to help make it happen? Or I realize that yes, I'll have to cut off, cut down on doing something else for the one period of time or something. Yeah. One library sent in, they wanted to start a toddler time. But what they did was, they had timeframes. They didn't have a preschool story time every Saturday for all year round. They had preschool story time for a two month period and then they took a month off. So during the month off from preschool story time, they were going to try the toddler time. So that time that had gone to that other one, they could now use and that makes sense. Yeah. That's what I was going to say. I was going to actually ask, is that always the case that you do have to say, oh, I have to stop doing something else for this new thing. But apparently, maybe not, obviously. Then as a perfect example that you don't necessarily have to, you can just say, that's a perfect example of what we're using other time that we did for something else and try this. Try it. And if they like it or something else. An example I was thinking of was, we've done this event project whatever in the past, but we've lost the funding for it. Yes. Whatever monies we had is no longer available. Whoever volunteered or donated is no longer providing that to us. But we want to keep doing this project event. So we need the monies to just continue something we've been doing. That's a good point. And that's a good opportunity for a youth grant to step in for that. When these were originated, we were thinking of people trying something new that they hadn't done before. And we still like that. But we're not against providing funding for something that we think of as standard when you're a public library. Ask for funding to do a summer reading program because they hadn't had one for several years. And so they were starting something up again that they hadn't. And I think of summer reading programs as kind of standard library services as part of their basic budget. But sometimes it doesn't have the money for it because you want to have the, even the papers, you know, here's the right, here's papers for you to write your books down that you've read over time. And this could also be used for expanding a current program, a current thing you're doing as well. So you don't have to come up with a whole totally new idea. It could be we're already doing a robot program with something, but we need more. We want to expand it to something else. We want more in-depth coding or something or we we've maxed out so many kids that a number of stuff I'm out of equipment we have is not enough anymore. So we need twice as much, you know, that kind of. Or the ages of grades four to six have been using this in the seven, eight, nine graders want some. They want to do it too. Yeah. So yeah, let's try and get a grad. Expanding a current program to other grades. Yeah. So all of these are possibilities. And then number 10, this is a sticky wicket. Oh yeah. Means of evaluation. Well, you know, output measures, we all have always traditionally done that. 25 kids came in, 25 kids had fun. Well, there was that one kid who cried for a little bit. He got over it. Whatever, you know, and also where we want you to try your best to do something that can let us know the outcomes. And we've talked about these a lot. Out of the last sense, their outcome measures might include changes in attitude or behavior, documentation of knowledge acquired, things like that. So that's harder to do. But I mean, you can do questionnaires, you can have parents, depending on the age of who you're working with. Teens, I would say, you know, you can do a pre-test, post-test. If you want to go that level, maybe you're doing the little bits. What did you learn about stuff with the little bits? It doesn't have to be complicated. It can be pretty basic, but at least talk with the parents, if it's a younger age group and the participants themselves. What did you learn? Did you learn anything? Did you have a good time? Are you going to pursue this some more? So output is the numbers, statistics, and then outcomes is more, I guess, the touchy-feely. Was it a good thing? How did it work out? Yeah. And it's hard to say. I mean, you can say the kids had a great time and I could tell they were learning, but that's harder to write down on the paper. It is, yeah. It's not as concrete, but it's important, yeah. So I really don't have a good reason why we have number 11, because we already asked you for your timeline, which probably said we're going to start our project. And what does begin project mean? Start buying stuff or actually have a program? Well, put in a date that you think. And number 12 is very important. Because if you say yes, yes, we might ask you to be on income. You may be one of these. Yes, absolutely. We've done it before. We have. And if you say no, it'll all cry for one. That does not preclude you from getting a grant, but it's nice when you say yes. Now we get to the budget form. Are you ready for numbers? I figured them out ahead of time. This is a little tricky because it'll get excited. Don't let that, it'll say, you haven't done this because that happened to me at the youth services retreat. But I'm not down there yet. It's okay. Don't panic. So under contracted services, that can be if you're hiring the legal guy to come and give a presentation, he's going to ask for some money. If you're using in kind time for your children's librarian to get this project going for part of your match, then you would put that number in there too. But you have to figure that out ahead of time. But approximately how much time will it take for them to get the project? Of their work time. Their work time. So under contracted services, I put down $500 because we're hiring the Lego guy and then we're using some staff time for some stuff and it all worked out. Library materials, we're going to put in $200 there. Library materials could be purchasing books that relate to your project for your collection. You don't have enough Lego books or books about coding because you're going to do a coding project. Also, you can put in there the little bits. This is where people call me and ask. It really doesn't matter because down below you're going to explain it. So library materials could be the little bits and the Legos or program materials and supplies could be that. Oh, see, we have personnel costs. That's where I should have put my staff time. So let's put 100 there and 400 up there. See, even I don't know how to fill this out. So program materials and supplies most of the time I say this is for things like expendables. You're going to need streamers and paper and diamonds to put on your crowns you're making and all those kinds of not real diamonds, all kinds of things that are going to go out the door home with the kids. It's generally under program materials and supplies and you're hanging on to the little bits. Those belong to the library. So that's why I usually put would say put those under library materials. So the things that won't walk out the door would be library materials and the things that might go with them would be the supplies. How come your estimated total? Oh, there it is. Never might see now. See how it adds up for you. Now your estimated total project budget is $800. The amount being requested as a grant from the library commission should be $600. See how it got excited? Oh, that's right. See, that's what I did wrong the other time. I forgot this was because it's a long form. Yeah, so go back up there and let's just do this. We're just going to bump everything up until we hit $1,000. There we go. There. Okay. Now this is just telling you that what you request may not be more than 75% of the total budget and the total budget is $1,000. But yeah, your total budget has to be more than the 75%. So this is the minimum of what your grant has to be. Because what you're asking from the commission has to be, yeah. Because you're going to do, you have to have your local match. You have to put in some monies as well. Yes. And I'm not very smart. Okay, so we have to get up higher. There, now it's more. Now we're happy. Now we have to know what is 75% of 1400. You said you had a calculator. Well, see, I figured it all out, but I figured it wrong. Okay. Because you did it based on the 800. I mean the thousand from the commission. So 1400 times 75% equals $1,050 from the library commission. Now we should be happy if you click down in the, in the, yeah, one of those. See, it's not yelling at us. So that's a good. Okay. So 1,400. All right. 1,400 times 10% is 140. So we have to put 140 in cash in here. Oh, it's 15%. Did I do 10? No, 10. Yeah. So what am I doing? 140. Oh, it's happy. Now we just have to get 140 plus 1,050 plus. So that's 1,400 minus 1190. So under the other in kind local match should be 210. Let's see what happens. Yes. Okay. Sorry. Okay. No, that's okay. Now that means that your local match is $350. And it didn't get excited. So that must be okay. Now you've got your numbers in there. As you go down, you're going to see empty spaces for you to tell us about the things you're doing that you put numbers in above. So contracted services. That's the legals. The definitions of what each of those sections means. Yeah. So any person not on the payroll, see how wrong I was. So if you type in there, the Lego guy, or do you want me to type? I don't know why I'm making you type. Lego guy. I don't know what he charges, but I want to know on here. So I'm going to say he charges 250. I have no idea if that's right. And put some more numbers up there. So we're also going to do Mrs. Science. And how can you scroll up for how much we had in that category? Oh, we ended up bumping up to 600. Okay. So Mrs. Science is going to be expensive. What is that? 450 plus 250? No. 350. Does that add up? Yes. Okay. Yes. Yes. That's all I want. I want to know in here who it is you're planning on. Now, maybe the Lego turns out, Lego guy broke his leg. Oh, please don't break your leg. And he can't come. Then you're going to do something else. You're going to find another person. That's okay. This is what you're planning on in the first place. Yeah. Okay. So library materials might be in there. You don't have to do all the work. How do I get this good to have that? Okay. So little bits. You're going to buy library materials. We ended up at 300. Good. I was going to buy 500 of those. Okay. 200 books. Okay. Now, see list. See how I did that. 100. So you want to add some books to your collection about coding or other things to do with the little bits. And that's part of library materials. So you can put it in here if you're just buying a couple or you can attach a list. A separate document. When you email me your signature page, you can add a separate document that says, here's the books we're thinking of buying and here's what they cost right now to get us up to the hundred. Right. Because we want to know. You don't have to buy those books. Look, this great new book just came out. We're going to buy that. Between the time when we submitted the application and we actually did the project. Okay. Personnel costs. That's who's on your staff. We did 200. So I just hate to become children's librarian. So 200. Wait. $20 an hour. Because I like to be generous. So that would be 100. That's 20 times. Sorry. That's okay. 200 divided by 20. It's going to equal something I should know. 10 hours. 10 hours at 20 each. $20 an hour. That's shows us how you figured that out. I know lots of librarians would love to get $20. Yeah. But they deserve it. Okay. So program materials and supplies. That was around $100 or $200. We upped that one to $300. $300 to make it work. Yeah. Okay. So now in this part we're going to go ribbons, sticky gems. I don't know how this relates to little bits and cobs. I'm just filling out the form. You have to make it work. Let's see. Plastic hats. That's what you're going to put all this on. And then give us some generals. So your ribbons are going to be. Yeah. They're ideally somewhere where you've looked up where you can purchase this and it would be like a package of 40 ribbons cost, you know, $10 or whatever. So one package. Where's the key? Okay. One package is, would you say $10? Yeah. I was just making things. I don't know. Anyway, I'm making it up too. So plug that in there. And explain we're going to buy 20 packages or whatever it comes out to. Right. So you can decorate your plastic hats so that you can wear them when you play with a little bit. Sure. Get creative. Why should I hold you back? So put all of that in there. And if you want to at some point, again, when you're sending an email to me with the attachment of your signature page and maybe your page about the book lists, then if you've found something in a catalog and you want to copy that from their web page and say, here's what I'm looking at. You can include that because that makes it clearer to us what you're looking for. Okay. So tap. Now, we don't need any training. So I'm just going to put none in here. But this is one of the cases where you have to put something in each field. I think you do. Yeah. Now, if you want to try it without, you can promotion. You're going to promote it on your web page and you're going to hand out a little note to kids, but you don't really want that as part of your grant. And other, I think we'll just put none there. Okay. Now, if we hit save and submit, it won't let us because we didn't put in who we are. We didn't do any of the previous stuff. But if it lets you get to here and hasn't already stopped and said, no, this number doesn't work, that's to help you work through it. But always you can call. You'll see. You saw as that popups came up, it will double check your math and remind you of, well, you need to actually have this much for this grant. And yeah, and maybe you should use the other grant application if you only need $800 worth of stuff from us or $600 from us. So that saves you a lot of time and trouble. With your report form, which you can get to from the original page I took you to, that'll be due like mid-September of 2019. Oh, then after the... Yeah, after you're done doing your project and etc. We want you to ask for the money before the end of June of 2019 because that's part of our financial budget. Yeah. So we have to get that out to you. If your project isn't going to happen till August, that's okay. Ask for the money in June and then have your project in August because the sun, the stars, whatever, well, maybe you're doing something with that because of the summer reading program next year. And then in your report form, we need you to include copies of your receipts or your invoices. Do we want to go back to the main page now to show that or... Now this year has a link for the signature page. Oh yeah, let's go there. That's okay. Yeah, see because we didn't finish, but that's okay. You normally would not do this as you hit the save and submit. Yes. Right? Yeah. And then leave the page here and you can just print this off or we now have the project director, which might be the children's librarian, and then if it is not the library director who signs there, then the library director needs to sign, and we do like to have the library board president. So you know that the board's aware of what's going on. Yeah. And we found it's helpful to put in name of library because I've gotten a few of these in the mail that just say Mary Jackson, signature of library director, can't read it, board director, I go, I wonder which library this is. They look on this. Because it's separate because the form, the actual application form is submitted electronically. Yes. And then you have to do this and print this and mail or fax it to a separate. Or you can scan it and email it to me and then I know you're email address. Well, now this says no applications are done electronically. Okay. Yes. I was like, wait, fax isn't mail will not be. So the application itself because it's online has that submit button, that is only done electronically. The signature page can then be sent however works best for you. Mail it to Sally. Email it to her scan document or fax it to the library commission to. Yes. Good clarification. Don't anybody get confused. Now let's go back to youth transfer excellence and we'll scroll down to the bottom again because that's where all the good stuff is. Now you'll see down here final report. We have two years worth because there's a few people still sending in their report from the 2017 grants. So up above that are the recipients for this year. So you have a word version or a PDF version and you can click on that and hang on. Not a problem. There we are. So here I'm just asking you, what was it you got received the grant for? What activities did you end up having described if there's anything you're still waiting to do because that can happen and further down this gets kind of long but we want both quantitative and qualitative. And look here's new examples, how many children attended and then what happened because of those children attending this event. So those are examples of filling in both of those. Then there's page two. So yeah. Was there anything that was negative about your project? That's okay. That's good. You want to learn from these? Yeah. I had a librarian contact me one year. She was getting ready to fill out her report and she was worried that it didn't work. I can't remember what she wanted to do. It just didn't work. Nobody came for whatever reason and she thought that if she said that on her report she would never get another grant. She said no. Our whole idea is if you're trying something new try it. Maybe it didn't work. That's possible. You'll learn from and this is something I was going to say new but it's been around for at least, well it's been known for a long time but a lot of conferences I've attended in the last 10 years or so they've actually put on presentations about failure. It's okay to fail. A panel of librarians talking about when something they didn't work. I mean you're so used to seeing presentations about here's this great cool thing I did and everybody came and it was such success and here's how you can do it at your library too and that's great but it doesn't always happen and that's okay. So there's a lot of things that a presentation will say let's talk about what totally failed. Nobody came or the equipment didn't work and so all the kids thought we were you know incompetent and you know whatever and that's okay because you can learn from it and say yeah it didn't happen they didn't come and I figured out why. I talked to someone and found out oh well the kids at the school didn't get the flyers so somehow the communication broke down or part of this could be and I'm telling you this but I'm hoping it's okay. I don't know why I'm gonna try I'm gonna look and do it. I'm gonna try and figure out. I haven't figured out yet why it didn't work but I plan on I'm not defeated. The stuff we're gonna make it something. I won't be defeated. I've got the equipment. I'm gonna figure out what did what didn't work right and try again next spring or next year or something but thank you so much for the stuff at least. Well we'll do it again. And the answer might be the air conditioner broken or library and nobody was coming in. Yike if they're used to air conditioning they wanted it. Sure but the second half of that question is what did you learn from the negative results and how would you do things differently if you figured that out yet because maybe you haven't like you said she hasn't figured it out yet but she's going to try something else. Did the activities and their outcomes or consequences fulfill your original goals and objectives? Maybe yes maybe you had the wrong goals but this is a great project. You discovered something else. The kids went a completely different direction than what they planned but they learned something different. Yeah and then how do you plan to continue the activities you have begun if this is something that can be ongoing how do you plan on keeping it up and is there another kind of follow-up that you might need and then an important thing is don't forget to include copies of all your invoices or receipts and people are doing that but what I am noticing is they are sending me enough invoices and receipts to cover the grant amount but it doesn't show me how they whole project remember how our whole project was $1400? There's the in kind there's what did you spend your own monies on so this would be receipts for everything related to the project whether it was the whatever amount we gave you and the money that you spent yourself and needs the total up to that grand total. That way I don't have to call you on the phone and say yes but I remember you figured out how much you were of the library and children's librarian salary was going toward this project but you didn't include that in the final I mean it's in the grant application but is that the amount of time she really did use and is that your local match in kind so yeah just now the pay it's just a piece of paper says children's librarian so many hours that's so much an hour equals this much money. Yeah so we track future. We don't need to see like your time sheets or any of that kind of thing no or payroll or payroll. Now we do have a question here that Kate and Jan is asking oh can the question is can the same library apply for this each year as opposed to once in a lifetime? Yes the same library can apply repeatedly yes exactly and actually we have had years where this one library had two different applications and maybe one was for a toddler time and one was for teen services and two different projects. Oh sure and two projects for a library two different applications have been funded. Sure though it is more likely that my committee I'm not the only one deciding my committee will say well we only have we have this much money and this much has been asked for so let's just if there's a lot of if there's a bunch of libraries that apply and they're all great applications we may need to split it up between more libraries and then one of your multiple ones might not be able to be funded is the idea but it doesn't hurt to ask it doesn't and what we would probably do is if the amount you ask for is pretty similar you want 500 for the toddler time and and 550 for the teen one as we'd say we're going to give you 500 dollars you can either do your toddler project or 500 towards the teen project which you choose which one you'd like to tell us which is more important to your community because you know better than us and that reminds me of one thing when you're doing this out remember that you know more about your library and your community than we do I know a lot of librarians and I'm very happy about that but I'm not in your community so when you're filling out your form and you're saying we're going to do this and this is why because our community thinks this is a good thing give us enough information to understand what's what this is going to help your community with and what it is exactly you're going to do and one of the best ways to do that is to write it all out in that separate word processing program print it off and give it to either a library board member saying here's what I'm aiming for have I have I made it clear or you can send it to your system administrator who hopefully will have an opportunity to look at it yeah and give you some advice that looks for your regional library system administrator and see if they would system director I'm sorry the system director I was wrong but and you also can send it to me but I will tell you that I have failed in the past sometimes so no with what it was well I helped somebody write an application and it didn't make it I thought it was good but like you said you've got a committee and there's other people that do participate this yeah and so if if an application comes in and I am confused when I read it I will call you and say I'm not sure what this means and you can re-apply resubmit or you can send me an email with here's what I meant in this section and I'll print it off and add it to that yeah just because something might not be clear doesn't mean we we say meh and set it aside there's going to be a back and forth that's because we want to understand what you're doing you might have some great idea but just didn't write it out as clearly as you know some people are better at just chatting and talking about stuff yeah and that's okay but you know we're gonna want need something in writing to figure it out yeah that's a good question okay yeah um we have another question came in from Wendy is a gaming system like an xbox eligible for a team program with this grant yes it is yes because it you mentioned Mario Kart I did as a game yeah um when we say we don't fund computers we're talking about either cpu's or laptops that can be used for a variety of purposes now with the an xbox is certainly got computer stuff in there but it's a dedicated to that it's gonna have a certain purpose yeah I mean not to just that one program but dedicated to gaming it's a gaming thing generally so that's not the same so that's my definition and I'm sticking with it and you're in charge this is the most great about these grants that we offer here at the commission it's these are not we're not doing like a a sub-grant type thing from ala or imls or something where they dictate the rules of how it can be done to us these are our own grants so we get to decide what we think is appropriate or not so yeah so yeah all you have to do is say you know a lot of kids in our community love to play whatever it is and not very many of them actually own that gaming system so we'd like to host a tournament of Mario Kart tournament and and then we'll have these books that have to relate in some way or other to games and gaming and or racing I mean totally you know who likes to think outside the box the box get it box xbox box sorry sorry yeah I like Mario Kart because I could actually stay on the road part of the time oh I am horrible at driving games I I'm the opposite I can I am always crashing uh driving and um flying things in video games I am terrible at I can run and jump and leap and do puzzles and um headshot with arrows and things sorry man I was playing the new Tomb Raider last night so pretty late and not an xbox I have the ps4 um but the driving stuff I'm just horrible yeah but that's probably because that's the only thing I play and that's over at my sister's house yeah practice yeah I don't know anyway we're getting off track here good questions and I would like to also emphasize as you're looking then thinking about what you might want to do and looking at the form and the things I've said about how to fill it out and you have a question that I didn't cover or you don't think I was clear enough just call me I'm here a lot of the time yeah or we have voicemail we have email we do and when I'm when I'm gone the week before the grants are due I'm going to be at the cslp board retreat so I will have a right yeah actually I was gonna I was gonna clarify that yeah the week before the grant deadline just happens to coincidentally be with where she's um gonna be off at a but it's work related so yeah she'll have a laptop so if you do have a question um that we yeah definitely email sally and then um maybe not immediately but she'll get back to you know she's gonna be in meetings but as soon as she can with an answer so that would be the best way to do is to do that yeah that week so don't panic because she's not here that week before and if you're doing your application at the last minute and it's 11 58 and you know we plug things in there and send it we'll fix it later because after midnight I can't accept it so plug in I'm not sure let me let me I'll get back to you yeah more details to come I mean I do need your numbers etc I want most of it in there but if you just have to do a couple more things and you're worried about the time just plug that in because I want your application to show up and be considered and we can work out the other part I hopefully it won't be in that situation where it's the last minute but that happens to people sometimes and there's a link right down here um we have this on all of our websites you know this question that to contact sally if you're not sure about where's your email address or whatever and it automatically pops up with where you can just type a message right here you don't even have to be in your email account or anything you'll put in your name your email um and just type in what you want it subject and message and it automatically goes to sally um that works great so if you're just not even able to get to your email account or something or figure out what is her email address good point use that link there thank you now we can if you want to go no that's the database I thought we could go to the grants page from here all the main page sure but I wanted to mention a couple other things here there's noticing over here we do you have a link here to some um good examples from previous youth grants right so um these are some from previous years that I'm not going to open them all right now um that you can look at so I guess these are ones you said these guys did a great job they did a great job so once you're going like well how what kind of timeline should I do you can look at these and say well it doesn't have to be that hard I can do that much or they're they aren't all up there for the same reason so they're not all 100 perfect so you might have to look at a couple and compare them and say yeah well this one's better maybe I'll copy how this is more like what what I like to write like how I like to write right yeah um and we also have this here tips for writing a successful grant application oh that's where that is I was trying to find that the other day and now this is something we see how this works here now this is off of the one for our content education grants you can see it says CE here so um and this is actually very general information as you can see um show detail um clearly explain your purpose be sure to include detailed budget I like composer a readable document it's just like your chat just start chatting Sally I don't you don't have to have that in there later but I would like a grant because I think blah blah blah just start typing that way like you're chatting with me and the committee yeah these are just some good tips for any kind of grant that you may do um as you so don't just use this for ours but you know that's kind of good general overview about what would be um good things to do we'll see now down we'll have to fix that down below it says make a copy of your grant application for your records before mailing and or submitting we don't allow you to mail it to us anymore so well it says and or submitting that's okay so I guess yeah you're right it's general so you might be mailing yeah some of their organization there's dates for youth grants for x1 so that's the whole thing yeah so yeah this is what you want to go this is our main page for grants at the commission which now Sally had you go through to get to her youth grant one here off the children's and YA fly out menu that we have but you may have noticed down here in our um library commission page there's one that also mentions grants funding um and anything related to getting monies um we're over here on the right we have nlc related grants we have other grants available that we talk point you to as well but we're talking about commission things right now um specific links to things that we've done but we've got a general page for the main ones that the library commission is currently offering with state money um that we are doing here um and did you want me to start talking about this general thing let's switch okay so we're kind of wrapping up here do you have any questions because we are a little after 11 o'clock right now but we just are a little after 10 oh wait log in so that's okay um we'll keep going until we get everything answered for you and all the details want to explain um we are recording so if you do need to take off and you know log out because we're at the end of the hour um that's all you've allotted for it that's fine we are recording and they'll be available to you later so this is our library commission grant schedule where we've got the grants that we offer here via the Nebraska library commission and this year we are offering three out of the four due to budget constraints within the state we are um this year unable to offer a library improvement grants these are ones for actual equipment and building upgrades and things like that um those are usually more pricier grants um more cost more and we don't have the funding for that but we are offering again well the youth grants for excellence which we just talked about today on August 31st that's right end of August when they came available for that one there's a due day here um when the recipients you will be notified by November so you'll know by the middle of November if you've gotten the grant um and then this is the link directly to that youth grants page that we started at um today the other two grants we are offering this year are going to be uh continuing education and training grants and internship grants and next week's Encompass Live is actually about those two grants I will yes myself and um Holly Duggan who is our continuing education coordinator will be presenting will be next week's Encompass Live show talking about these two grants coming up um we've offered internship grants um pretty regularly over the years um that those will be open no I these are available dates are we're putting in next week it'll be as soon as we get everything updated on the pages there's still both the work in progress so if you do click on any of these which are not going to do right now there's going to be old information so don't go to it yet by next week we'll be all good but we do have our dates for when these will be due um we've determined those are ready internship grants are coming up next they'll be due November 9th and then see en training grants December 7th so think you know look ahead to those we're doing we're trying to space out our grants one each month um the youth in October internship November and then see in training in December so you're going to apply for all three oh sure they all have different reasons and purposes and we'll learn about the other two uh next next week on Encompass Live we have a question that just came in though what is the most money we can ask for in a grant the most um that's a good question let's talk about the youth grant and the other ones we'll talk about next week the youth grants um is there a max because those the form did say the the short form is for less than a thousand dollar project and the long one says it has to be more than a thousand but what is the well do you have an upper I have a total of twenty five thousand dollars to give away right and the closer you get to twenty five thousand dollars the less likely you are to get yeah that's kind of you might like fund a portion of it I don't like to put a top end on it because I don't know what your project is I've had people ask for five thousand dollars and they had a good reason for their project and why that amount would really make it work right so um more than five thousand I mean even five thousand is a lot and this is we're talking specifically about the youth grants the other two we'll discuss next week we're still working on those so as I said there's twenty five thousand dollars available in total so um I don't say feel free to put in whatever you think you might have need but with the you know with the knowledge that there's only a certain amount to go on our round for everyone and the odds are you might not get yours because we've run out of money or you might get a reduced amount we've have done that before I've done that with the my improvement grants where we said great project we like it but we can only give you a you know two-thirds of the money you asked for you're going to have to come up with the rest you know sorry whatever something else we've done in the past as I've encouraged libraries to say you know make this a two or three step project this year you're asking for this much to get this much done towards your overall project so you need 2,500 this year for this part of your project apply next year this is the second part of my project I got grant funding last year to do this this year we're going to do this part of it this is not a guarantee you're going to get funded again but it's a you know if you know that if you can break it down that way then you might get your whole thing funded but over over time over a couple of years yeah it might take you that long to do it anyway depending on what you're doing yeah and youth grants we've been pretty um solidly been able to uh provide them every year um they're very popular they're very necessary the other grants it's always very depending on funding and what's going on um uh so that's a good point so far so good on youth grants yeah yeah keep your fingers crossed for us so keep having our budgets approved yeah so anything else you want to uh you needed to mention I wanted to show on the pages today I'm sure I'm missing something and I'll if anybody has any other last-minute questions you want to ask of Sally while we're here talking about the youth grants or email me yeah today tomorrow I'll answer I'll say oh I should have said that on the webinar but here you go if you have any other questions type them in a wrap up that's what you want to say I just every year look forward to the things that people are doing and there's always something new you hear about there's something new and there's also people who who noticed that somebody in the state was doing a project and that's a good idea I want to do that just say um so-and-so library did this project I think it's great I think it'll work for our community let's give it we want to give it a try here's our application and you'll notice here we do have this grants recipient database that's listed linked underneath each of these this is where you can look up and see all the grants that we've ever had throughout the state throughout the history of it you can see here all the different grants included going back looks like the oldest date is 1998 yeah we used to call them the children's grants for excellence and then we change it to youths to include teens and older kids yeah so you can choose a particular grant name a year and you can start going back all the 98 if you want to choose a particular library but if you just want to see in let's do this I'm curious children's grants for excellence in 1998 we're gonna go all the way back just for the fun of it um and you can see who did something how much they got and a little just a general thing book buddies program oral history project pairing adults older adults of teens so if you want you can see what other libraries have done how much money they got and then you could potentially reach out to some of these to get some ideas about what they do if you want to chat with them about hey I saw you did this thing and we're interested can you talk to me more about it I'd like to do you know some things you know I think it's I think it would work in our library like you said and that now go down a little bit because I'm seeing something that I should mention Spanish language collection for new residents in general if you if you notice that your your um 600s are woefully out of date and that's what you want to do for your youth grants it's not going to get funded we understand that you need to improve your collections but um this was a special case um generally it needs to be part of to get books for your collection it needs to be part of a larger or a different you know it activities a program event they'll be happening if you say I just really need to get rid of these terrible old books yes I know that's not what this grant is for but if you do a project that relates to the 600s and you can replace the certain amount of those in there because you had these activities you want to study insects kids love bugs so I don't know are they in the 600s I don't know I'm sorry I'm sorry that we don't just fund it to help you with your collection no not this particular grant right there's other grants out there that exist in the world that you that would it be okay all right oh yeah I see a thank you yep all right extra questions all right I think we will wrap it up then since we're getting to the end of time here so um we'll wrap it up for all of our session here about youth grants for excellence go to the website um start putting together your proposals um get them submitted as contact Sally for more questions so um yeah like I said that will wrap it up for today's show going to go now um to go to our Encompass Live website you have a couple different ways you can get there I want to show you where that is at if you are on our commission webpage is actually under education and training over here Encompass Live webcasts you can also type Encompass Live into our shut site or we have so far I like showing this Encompass Live you just type it into your search engine of choice we are the only thing called that ends the internet so far yay so if you type that in you will get our main page here at the Nebraska Library Commission Encompass Live uh today's show is being recorded and will be posted to our archives the archives are right here underneath our upcoming shows and it will be at the top of the list here and we will have um we don't have a presentation but it will be just like this one we'll just have a link to the recording in this case and there is also will be a link to the youth grants uh website so you have a quick link to that it will be right here everyone who attended today's show live and we're registered for today's show because we'd have a bunch of people that signed up and didn't weren't able to make it here live we'll receive an email from me later this afternoon most likely letting you know as as long as um everything cooperates we post our recordings up to our Nebraska Library Commission's YouTube channel uh and we'll send you a link email letting you know what's available we also post to our various social sites as well Twitter out to our mailing lists in general Facebook and whatnot um so look for that I hope you join us next week as I mentioned next week's show is the 2018 Continuing 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