 Well, we've talked many many many times about the most dangerous thing happening in America right now The most dangerous thing is the national security apparatus turning all of its guns inward right now the national security apparatus of America has Reoriented itself to be aimed at you to be aimed at the political opponents of Democrats And I don't have to tell my next guest that Dexter Taylor known as carbon Mike had himself a little visit from the ATF Okay, Dexter before we get to the raid. Why don't you tell us about yourself and all this dangerous weapons dealing you've been doing? Don't start Don't start dangerous weapons dealing. So yeah, there was no dealing There was no dealing of any kind But yeah, that's where about me. I may I'm a lifelong New Yorker You know born and bred I'm a 30-year veteran of the software industry. I have a squeaky clean criminal record that that's probably the most important thing to say Never any problems with the police I'm a licensed amateur radio operator technician class. I'm sitting right now in the control room of the third recording studio I've built the switching yard And and I'm obviously I'm a conservative commentator online for people who know me They know my content on Twitter and so on and so forth and I post as carbon Mike And so a few years ago, I became interested in gunsmithing I found out that there were people who were taking what they called 80% receivers legal parts that they bought and Attaching you know machining them to completion in their machine shops attaching parts and come up with finished weapons And I thought that was the coolest thing I'd ever heard of in my life. The coolest the most traditional And I couldn't wait to try it out because again ever since I was a kid. I've been kind of a nerd I used to subscribe to popular science as a kid I used to geek out about tanks and fighter planes and rifles like any red blooded american kid So anyway a few years ago I started getting into gunsmithing Um, I buy legal parts under my own name online shipped to my house. No deceit. No subterfuge I machine them to completion in my machine shop because I have a machine shop in my basement I also build furniture and what have you and um I started with glocks glock style pistols first made I don't know five six seven of those and then I made eight very sexy ar style rifles and uh All this time I never bragged about weapons. I never photographed weapons. I never brandished weapons I never talked to people about weapons or about gunsmithing services of any kind um I didn't want to attract the wrong kind of energy. That's not what it was about What it was about to me was starting my second career Hopefully as a weapon science guy bringing my experience as a data engineer as a software guy to weapon science Um, and we can talk about that later if you like but long story short, um, I was doing all my stuff I was a member in good standing on my local gun range I had signed up and taken a signed up for and taken a course to get my utah concealed carry permit um I had signed up for an online course called rocket ffl because I wanted to find out what I'd have to do To buy some land in southern new hampshire get my ffl and do this stuff for real I was all in in april of 2022. I was rated by a joint nypd atf task force They broke down my door uh arrested me took me off to rikers where I spent a week um and uh, obviously confiscated all my weapons and many of my tools And uh, the state of new york brought charges against me for criminal, uh weapons possession the atf by the way, uh Appears to have disappeared shortly after the raid so there nowhere to be found This is a state case not a federal one But long story short new york state now wants to put me in prison for 18 years For felony weapons possession their contention is that I should have asked the state of new york for permission Before quietly peaceably and privately exercising my second amendment rights In my home none of my weapons ever left my house None of my weapons ever so much as crossed the threshold. You see what i'm saying? So, uh, yeah, that's new york New york's contention. They want to put me away for 18 years. They offered me a plea deal eight years instead of 18 I turned them down flat There was an informal plea in the air an informal offer in the air. Excuse me for five years instead of 18 I turned that down flat. Okay. I don't want to go to prison I know it's a bad place but I also know that um I couldn't I I wouldn't so much as if if new york state if new york state passed a law tomorrow That said black people have to enter public buildings through the colored entrance I wouldn't comply with that either And if I did it and got arrested and they asked me to plead guilty to trespassing I'd say no, that's not criminal trespass. You're out of line. Do you see what I'm saying? So new york state is out of line here. We know this our governor is out of line here We know this she's behaving in a lawless way That's not some secret. She said as much publicly We don't care about the law. We don't care about the constitution. We don't care about brewing We're gonna do what we want to do well very well They can do what they want to do if they want to lock me up. That's that's their that's their choice But I won't I won't uh submit to it by claiming to have done something wrong. I did nothing wrong Dexter, I have I have two questions I just want to clear up before we let you go there and I applaud you very much for your bravery and for For a fight and just saying screw it one you said the atf just disappeared I would like to know where they went because they don't just get to show up at your house And kick your door in and then say oh, sorry must have had the wrong address. We were looking for tacos and take off That's not how that works. That's one and two And yeah, and two I would like to know If these things have never crossed your threshold as you said you never bragged about them You never photographed them. You didn't deal them. They're not part of your Broadcast you have an outstanding voice by the way for radio. I'm gonna set that aside for the moment Um, how did they get wind that you had these things? Did you get sold out by somebody you bought them from? Excellent question. That is exactly what happened. And by the way, I have a great face from radio too from what I've been told But uh, yes, me too The um, the yes the atf drove the search warrant. So remember this is a joint nypd atf task force So what happened is the atf has been good. It's not i'm up in one. This has happened too by the way the atf uh, essentially has been going around the parts manufacturers and demanding customer lists Some number of those manufacturers complied And then the atf would go around to different, uh, uh, uh local pds and and different states basically And say hey, listen, uh, you should go get this guy and this guy and this guy and this guy That's what happened here. In fact nypd has a unit That's dedicated to liaising with atf in just such a way So that's what happened. They drove the search warrant on me and again, I'm not being this is not a unique case, right? Um, and they were there on the day of the raid But this was new york jumping out on a new yorker. That's what this was And and and I should add I know I know you're short on time But I should add that what is important about this case. I think it's not necessarily me, right? Um, what's important is that people understand look, you know, you mentioned very kindly that I I do conservative comment commentary online things like that Conservatives need to get wise to the fact that um living in red states will not save you We are going to have to fight these people politically Everywhere in order to be safe anywhere. So people a lot of people say well get out of new york You shouldn't have been in new york would have you it's like listen that is a that is, um, How can I be kind that's loser talk? Okay, um retreat is not a strategy Okay, and the people who want to do this to us don't have a minimalist strategy You never hear communists or marxists or progressives or mawis or what you want to call them You never hear them saying hey, stay away from that status too. It's too conservative They want it all we're playing for all the marbles. So forget about me for a second, right? Um, I'll either win my case locally or I won't and I'll either go away for a little while or I won't But the fact is that american citizens who care about this stuff need to understand that we have to fight this as a people Either we're serious about being a republic or we are not either our american cities are american cities Or they're not and that's it well Wish you the best of luck my brother dexter. Thank you, man. 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