 Okay, so I'm a little wobbly. I've walked 15 miles today and I just saw this old man with a walker like pushing himself into a busy street. I was so tired and so morally desensitized by life in Los Angeles. I didn't even try to do anything. I'm afraid that I'm a bad man. If he wants to push his bloody walker into a street filled with whizzing traffic going by, I was too tired and my bladder was too full to protest. I just like walked about five miles without any water. So I stopped, bought three liters of water for about three bucks, drank it all down in a course of about 40 minutes. And the power of situation, like normally the paragon of moral leadership, you'd think that I would be doing the right thing. But the bladder was too full. I was too tired. Okay. And this Aussie shop girl came running out and said, you okay? So I deferred, I deferred that moral task to someone else. But anyway, I see it on Twitter, Twitter's burning up because, you know, Kanye and Nick Fuentes are meeting up and like, it's Mar-a-Lago and it's like, you know, there's great threat to Jews and to Western civilization. I don't think so. Right. I don't think that Kanye and Nick, you know, get up in the morning and think about, you know, what can we do to the Jews today? I think this is really about people who have their own interests and they see their own group interests. And they see that there are secret groups and groups you can't criticize. And Nick Fuentes, he loves Christianity. And so it's a kind of normal natural that he wants a particular type of America. You know, it may have some negative feelings about Jews. Kanye, I'm pretty sure he's had a lot of experiences with Jews. And when you have intense relationships with people, or in the case of Kanye or in the case of Nick Fuentes, when you have clashing group interests, then he express itself with some negative sentiments towards Jews. So I just don't like the label Holocaust denier anti-Semite. Yeah, some of what Nick says is anti-Jewish. He has mocked using religion, using the Holocaust as religion. But what emanates the animates these two guys more than their attitudes towards Jews is that they want to be famous. They want to be the center of attention. They want to be edgy. They want to be exciting. And Nick Fuentes and Milo Yiannopoulos and Kanye, they always like to be on the edge of what's new and exciting. And when you keep looking for that which is new and exciting, you often make some really bad decisions. So Kanye's probably cost himself a billion dollars. Nick Fuentes, his life has become a nightmare in many ways. But I don't think they're getting together to plot genocide. I don't think they're primarily getting together to how can we take down Jewish power. These are two attention-seeking junkies trying to stay relevant, trying to stay cutting edge. And I think that's dominant. Like for some people, the hatred of Jews is dominant. For other people, the hatred of blacks or gays is dominant. But Kanye and Fuentes just love their attention. That's what's dominant. That's what's driving them. This is not the onesie conference. They're not making plans for where they're going to shut the Jews off. This is not the end of Western civilization. This is not Donald Trump signing on with Kanye and Nick Fuentes and their evil plans against the Jews. These are people with an essential media disease. They just want to dominate the new cycle, the Twitter cycle. They love to have people talking about them. And they're willing to do absolutely crazy things to maintain that. Now, I think that there are some genuine Jewish skeptical, even anti-Jewish sentiments with Kanye and Nick, absolutely. But I don't think that's what's dominant. Well, people are complicated. So to the degree that the Anti-Defamation League and Jewish organizations have come down like a ton of bricks on Kanye West and Kari Irving, that also provokes a backlash. It's not like my other phone for the directions. It's not like you can just attack people and there are going to be no consequences. So harder, YDL and Jewish organizations come down on Kanye and Nick Fuentes and Kari Irving. The more of a backlash, you're going to spark. So two people probably never thought about each other, never felt like they had much in common. Well, now you've created a bond between them. So we've got two fundamentally anti-social, social misfits. Tension-hungry blokes are getting together. And why are they so attention-hungry? These are misfits. These are people who can't maintain relations in real life. But they get fed from social media. They get feeling it's satisfactional from being talked about, being in the news, compelling people's attention. And so the other response to Kari Irving in particular was disproportionate. Now, Kari and Kanye and Nick, they both made their own beds, right? And now there's no big globes. They were just being maligned for no reason whatsoever. Sometimes when you crack down on people, the backlash that you cause, it's going to be even even greater than the original problem. So great job, Adia. The work's up and it's even more intense, what it would have been if your initial reaction had been more sober. So I think a lot of what we attribute to ideology, through anti-semitism, Holocaust, and all these horrible things is really just attention-seeking. It's just, hey, look at me. I'm so edgy. Most people don't have a thought for covering political ideology. People just tend to have reactions. They feel something. They see something. They experience something. They respond. It's times like this that I think that we all need the dulcet tones of our bureau to kind of settle us down. But first of all, what does Richard Spence have to say? This is probably headed for disaster, talking about Kanye and Nick Fuentes. And I'm not on board regardless. That said, there's something I admire about Fuentes, incessantly moving forward, taking risks, pushing things to their conclusion. Too bad everything has led to Kanyeism, but it'll be entertaining. Okay, but what about Mark Shapiro? What does Mr. Shapiro have to say? Now let us let us learn from this great professor of modern Jewish thought, because we try to process. Are you processing with me? All right, let's process together what the hell's going on here with Fuentes and Kanye West. Okay, I'm everybody part three of our... Okay. We'll learn some Torah. We'll wash our souls in the wellsprings of Torah. And then we get it to play. Not so easy doing it all live. But it gave me trouble. 16 miles under my belt. Three liters of water on my stomach. The shirt must go on. Okay. We did this earlier. Let me fast forward. We get to the good stuff. We start spouting some ideas during Torah reading between alias. This is Mark Shapiro talking about how do you handle the heretic? And he quits a rabbi saying, let me say it quick to call people heretics. And he could expand this to say, let me say it quick to call people anti-Semites and holocaustinized. It's not absolutely necessary. It's an inside joke. There's a phrase I will not elaborate on it. Oh, don't let the guy in here. That's what he says here. That means in prophet's speech. That means 11th, 12th century rabbis. In prophet's speech. And he quits a rabbi saying, let me say it quick to call people heretics. You all up on your hikiri and subscriptions? You could imagine, King William G.M.M.O.S. would not give us happiness. Not just that they would cause us problems, but they wouldn't give us happiness. This is a commandment. That's the rush, writing it in medieval times. But now you're in the 18th century. And the 18th century was certainly the mix. Those don't give a lot of people happiness. They cause a lot of problems and they prevent you from integrating an under society and go to the university because you can't go on Saturday. All these sorts of things. So what he's done is he's given the rush. He's had the rush say that in theory, if it ever happens, that the commandments are problematic and you don't get happiness, because it's a touristy journal. But if it ever would happen, God doesn't want you to be upset. If it's a observing child that causes you pain and it bothers you, God doesn't want you to bother because God loves you and he wants you to be happy and the tourist is supposed to make you happy. And if it doesn't make you happy, the rush continues at length as it was adopted in the late 18th century. Very concealed here are all the trends that became so prominent in the early reform movement. One, the messianic age, not necessarily one in which the temple will be rebuilt. Theoretically, the americama time when observance in the midst of it may become detrimental to Israel's well-being and it has to be given up. The reason why the Jewish people fail to find the answers to his problems is because it's overlaid, the essential term with the practices it is made of. Later on, the rush in quotes talks about all the superstitions that people have done and then Jacob says, all that is needed to give the game away is for the rush to use the word enlightened. But the enlightened to read the responsive could have no doubts as to its intention. I just think it's hilarious that Jacob said this because I think Jacob was looking at the concentrating on the last section. Because if he looked at the earlier section, he would say, and I marked it, or I guess he saw it but it doesn't indicate it, he uses the word Mosque twice. Now the word Mosque also appears in the earlier time, so Mosque is the Orochial. But he does use the word Mosque, so if you read the word Mosque, not as a medieval usage of it, you can actually read it as Mosque, and everything reads perfectly as proto-reform. You have, as Jacob's son correctly says it, you have all the elements in Mosque to become reformed to use in this very response. Now we have one more responsive to do, but we'll do that next time and then we'll move into... Hey, that's kind of incredible. You then have to observe Jewish law of what makes you unhappy. I think basically with... I'm not sure whether Schalberg is a reformer or just someone who wants to tear it down. When you see a chivalry like this, it seems like it's not trying to tear it down, it's trying to create like a deist. So, Sha'ul Berlin, 19th century of tax rabbi, who published the major forgeries, and this notion that God just wants us to be happy, so keeping this habit, keeping the commandments that makes us unhappy, then you don't have to do them. That's pretty radical, but to an extent, this is how Judaism works, right? Even most Orthodox Jews don't observe everything, like everybody very extents who is observant in Judaism picks and chooses, and people pick and choose on the basis of how congenial these commandments are, and it ties back into Nick Fuentes' Kanye West thing. These people have come together because it's congenial for them at this time and place, right? Just like a Jew, maybe fairly secular, and then he gets married and has kids, wants to raise his kids within the community, realizes it's a lot easier to do that if we're Sabbath observant, if we're Orthodox, or you decide what kind of family life you want to have, and then you choose religiosity or lack thereof that accords with that. And so people make all sorts of decisions that have ideological ramification, but they often just begin on a practical basis, like Kanye and Nick are coming together on a practical basis, giving each other support, capturing attention, wanting to be in the news, wanting to be edgy, wanting to follow their thinking to its logical conclusions. And so one thing leads to another, just as one mitzvah leads to another mitzvah, so one of error, one sin leads to another sin. So here they are, like two socially ostracized dudes. Okay, Bay Gardens. Very nice. So good stuff here from Mark Shapiro. I'm just trying to do this, and it's observing its vote, but in the other two votes, it seems like it's more underhand, it's more interested in undermining traditional practice. Reform is not interested in undermining traditional practices, we say undermining, that's like in the illicit perspective. So I'm not sure where, I don't know, I wait till next desk, I'll show you where Shull Berlin ends up. So let me ask you the questions. Noah says, anything with a desire to bread is a sudo. Well, you might say that is a desire to bread is a sudo. My question is, what about, can you have a sudo without a desire to bread, that is a desire to bread makes a sudo, what does a sudo need to have? What's the best way to have a sudo? That's officially meal isn't considered a meal in Judaism, unless you eat bread. And you need to have Busser? It's a sing song by Ron Aaron, so you mean sing, sing. But she's, I'm speaking about though, don't worry about so much about me, but I mean the gangsters, but you're right, there's a lot of, these are just the ones that, and Jenna Jocelyn, she's like her real historian, not just interested in good stories, but Sugarman's book, he's spoken at all the Chabaz around the country, he's a character, his son is a, this is all, it's not sacred, if you live in Bolivia, you know, his son's really my buddy's down there, from all the Israeli schools, there's haven't been anything like this, in terms of sales, sure shops, no hustles, so it's not going to be so easy to destroy, because I have to say, he's in a religious Zionist roof, and he's one of the Middle East girls, so I'm worried about his man gone. I just saw it really, I listened to the classes, I misspeak here, I'm speaking quickly, I'm saying a lot of things, you're not going to rise, but then I can tell you, I misspeak over there, and they say you misspeak. I'm talking about Jen's professional or social reasons, that you can't be matame for a non-Jew, that's, I don't know, I don't think I can tell a lot of post-game except this, that's what he says, post-game or rabbis, and the sad Jewish law. The reason why the bushel was because the kids were descendants of Bolivia, I was saying that sometimes you could have great forefathers, and we see what happens to the money, that's the standard view, the standard rabbinic view is that the Son and Rosh is a forgery. This Rabbi Amos, but he doesn't conflict with us, I don't think it's a problem, I don't consider it competition, we each do our own thing, and I've already mentioned his wonderful dissertation on Bolivia, so thank you for that, Mel. For example, trade for business, that I can find all sorts of attended breakfast lunch and dinner, because the winter was dangerous, and it was a huge position and difficulty not to drink this, and yet because of the ritual instinct to change the immutable is that a couple hundred years afterwards, this starts to bring down, you know, that in Moravia and in Italy, otherwise religious Jews, other than Ramon, Ramosha Isserlis justifies, the way he justifies it is the exact same way it would have been justified by the Malay Tosos, but they didn't, and the Ramon, he's not saying you should, but he doesn't want to consider these people sinners. Incidentally, I did a podcast, there's a guy, Drew, I'll be episodes now, all on Jewish wine and Jewish drinking. I don't drink, I don't drink wine, I don't drink liquor, but he has all the things I've got, so we do all the sessions, you can find it on the Ramon Chufa, but you can read about it, you can, if you're into social wine and liquor, you can listen to it. For some reason, I was thinking in my mind, see, I'll sit this way. So anyway, you're probably wondering, you know, what the hell does this Mark Shapiro lecture have to do with the news? The bigger point is that people are complex, situations more complex, people will react differently in different situations. You don't want to overreact, just calling them anti-Semitic, people are more than their labels, and just as they're non-Jews with negative feelings about Jews, there are plenty of Jews with negative feelings about non-Jews. So different groups often have different interests, and some people we think are primarily motivated by ideology. No, they're primarily motivated by social media, getting clicks, getting attention, getting articles written about them. Not all that appears to be so is so. So Mark Shapiro was talking about famous forgeries produced by an Orthodox rabbi. So a lot of the news is fake. It's forgery. What may look like an alliance of dark powers, not necessarily so. You simply can't sustain the public figure. There's a famous person in America who can't sustain consistently an anti-Jewish attitude. He'll be crushed, and Jews are in a pretty safe, secure position in America today. I don't think Kanye and Nick Fuentes are going to start leading some anti-Jewish program. I love listening to Shapiro. Just, I mean, the sophistication, the learning, the grounding of both secular learning and Torah learning. There is wisdom, assessing text, assessing personalities, assessing the news. Just a model for a true seeker, a mensch, fair-minded. And we can all learn from that kind of example. That needs to rush to judgment. And that'll do it for today.