 Thank you. I would now like to call the October 12th, 2020 Parks and Recreation Advisory Board to order. Can we please start with the roll call? Yes. Ms. Sue Alberg is absent. Mr. Jeff Allen Bogan. Mr. Minow Gangwar not here. Ms. Paige Lewis not here. Mr. Dan Olson. Here. Mr. Robert Putham. Here. Thank you. Ms. Katja Stokli. Here. And Erin Rodriguez. Mr. Councilor Eisen not here. Thank you. Anyone wishing to provide public comment during the public invited to be heard must watch the livestream of the meeting for instructions. When the call and information is displayed on the screen, please call the number displayed, enter the meeting ID, and when asked for your participant ID, press the pound key. Callers will hear confirmation that they have entered the meeting and be told how many people are already participating in the meeting, staff and council included. Callers are placed on hold and muted until they are called on by the last three digits of their phone number, at which time they will be unmuted and invited to speak. Please remember to mute your live stream when you are called upon to speak. Comments are limited to three minutes per person and each speaker will be asked to state their name and address for the record prior to preceding with their comments. Thank you. We will now go to the approval of the agenda. I see no reason not to approve the agenda. I move we accept it. Do I have a second? Jeff Ellenbogen seconds. All in favor of approving the agenda, please indicate by raising your hand. Thank you. The motion passes. I note that Paige Lewis has joined us. Thank you. Okay. At this time, we will move to the approval of the previous month's minutes. Are there any comments or corrections on September's minutes? Dan? I just want to note for the presentation later on this evening that on page four of the minutes, the statement by Gordon Pedro that supported the conservation easement on the newbie open space property. So I just wanted to bring that to everyone's attention. Thank you. I would also note that at some point in the minutes on page four, it's Mr. Pedro, not Mr. Gordon. Any other comments on last month's minutes? I invite a motion to approve last month's minutes. Jeff Ellenbogen moves. Can I have a second? Rob, are you seconding? I second on that. Thank you very much. All in favor, please indicate by raising your hands. Dan and Katya abstain because we were not there. The motion passes. Our next agenda item is public invited to be heard. We are going to open up the public invited to be heard and the information is being displayed on the screen for those watching at home. Please dial 888-788-0099. This is a toll-free call. When you are prompted, please enter the meeting ID that you see on your screen. 895-1218-1617. We will now wait five minutes. Thank you. Chair, we have a board member, Gangwar, which has joined the meeting. Thank you. Welcome to the caller that just entered our meeting. We still have a few minutes here before the meeting will continue and we will open it up for comments. When we're ready to call on you, we will call you out by the last three digits of your telephone and we will ask you to unmute yourself at that time. Please stop listening to the live stream. You will see a delay between what you're hearing on the live stream and what you're hearing through your telephone. Thank you. Chair, I'm going to stop sharing. I'm going to let the stream catch up to us and then we can begin. Thank you, Ms. Wollick. All right. We have one guest that's called in. I'm going to ask you to unmute yourself. The caller, your phone number ends in 760. Can you unmute yourself? Caller 760. I'm asking you to unmute. There you are. Do you want to mute yourself? Yes. Okay. Hi. So, you may want to mute the live stream or you're going to hear me again in your ear. I'm hearing twice. Yes. I'm hearing the live stream. There you are. So, you hear me? I hear you, but can you turn the volume down on your live stream? Which whichever device you're again in your ear? Okay. Okay. Can you hear me now? I can. Can you turn the volume down? We'll give this a shot, but I can still hear myself in the background. I can hear you. Right. So, as you... We'll continue and hopefully you can say what you want to say. So, please state your name. You have three minutes and your address. Okay. And I can still hear two voices. So, should I just start talking? Yes. You're going to hear yourself. I don't know what device that you're watching us on. What device are you watching? I'm watching... I've got a MacBook Air, a computer. Okay. I'm watching you on that. You need to pause that. Can you press the stop button or the pause button on that video? Oh, hold on. Pause. Okay. So, pause. Okay. Now is that better? Yes. Wonderful. So again... Oh, okay. Okay. Do I start my three minutes now? Yes. Please state your name and address for the record. Okay. My name is Patricia Meyer, Patsy Meyer. I live at 1113 Signature Circle in Longmont. My request is for the recreation board to consider building a backboard at the wonderful new tennis center at Quail right next to the recreation center. And my reason for asking for this is that for me, a backboard is essential for anyone to learn the game of tennis. And the ones that we have in the city right now are insufficient in number. There are three. One at Carr where the boards are warped a bit, which isn't the worst thing, but if you don't hit the ball correctly against the wall, it will go sideways. The same goes for the one at Collier, which is also made of press board, I believe, and is also warped. The third one that I've seen is at Affolter. But that, to me, is the best situation. It is a cement wall and it's two-sided, and you can have more than one person hitting against the wall, which allows you to not only practice your shots instead of playing with someone who doesn't know how to play, and then you're chasing the ball more than hitting the ball and learning how to play. And it's also an opportunity if someone else is playing that you could meet somebody else to head with. You know, as far as I'm concerned, tennis is one of the best sports that's the least expensive, but allows you to see your progress through developing the proper strokes so that you can play against somebody else. Is my time up? I think I have another minute. No, you have one more minute. Okay, so, I mean, I've been playing tennis for a very long time, and I've been here for 10 years. Before I left here, I, before I retired, I coached a high school team. I made it certain that we had a backboard. All of the team members would practice in their spare time to improve their strokes. But I also taught at camps and clinics, and backboards were always a part of the program so that anyone who wanted to on their own time could go and practice their strokes. I mean, tennis is so inexpensive you can buy a racket at a thrift store. You, you know, you just need tennis shoes. You don't need a ball machine. You don't need, you know, a lot of things that are expensive in other sports. You don't need a whole team to play and entertain yourself. That's it. Thank you so much, Collar. Jeff, do you want to respond at this time? That's really a David question. David, do you want to respond at this time? Sure, I'm here and that's, again, I think these meetings are great for the board to hear this and staff. We, we have a five-year CIP project list that we go five years looking at things that we think the community needs. And these are things that we can put into that hopper to look at. We can evaluate that and it can get worked into that. And if, if the board feels that as a priority they can always ask staff to look at that and we can start looking at our, our projects. But again, we really are laid out for this year and the next five years. And at this point there, there is nothing in that five-year plan for this, but this is where it starts. Collar, thank you so very much for sharing that concern with us. And once you hang up here on the phone, you can press the play button on your live stream again if you wish to continue to follow the rest of the meeting. Ms. Wollick, do we have any other public waiting? Excuse me, Dan, go ahead. Hi, Patsy. I encourage Patsy to call in because we play tennis together on Saturday mornings. And she's right. I agree. We don't have a backboard. And in fact, Quail would be the perfect place because we have a waiting group of people at Quail most of the time. And so that would give somebody something else to do. I'm thinking of like East Boulder Rec Center where they do have backboards. I mean they're also handball courts, I guess, officially. Anyway, I think this, she, I didn't even occur to me until Patsy brought it up. But I'm on board with this. So David, when you're looking for the board to recommend, I'll be that guy. Great, thank you. And Chair, that was the only caller. Thank you very much, Dan. So we will move on. Now please to old business. Do we have any old business? We have no old business. Thank you. Moving on to new business. This is a public hearing regarding the disposition of open space and the newbie farm conservation easement. So just as we did with public invited to be heard, we will wait for five minutes for the public to call in concerning this agenda item. Ms. Wolich, should I read the instructions again? If you want to just read the telephone number that's on the screen and the ID, that would be great. Thank you. The number for comments is 1-888-788-0099. This is a toll-free number. The meeting ID is 895-1218-1617. We will now wait five minutes. Chair, I'm going to stop sharing and wait for the livestream to catch up. Thank you. Okay, it's cleared the livestream and we have no one that has called in. Thank you very much. Dan, I believe you're presenting on the newbie conservation easement. I am. Thank you very much. This particular item involves the Prab recommendation to approve a grant of a conservation easement in Groves from the city to the Longmont Conservation District on the newbie farms open space property. A little bit of history. We closed on this particular parcel back in October of 2018, approximately 254 acres. With water we spent close to eight and a half million dollars. Pretty significant investment. A little bit of history on what we're trying to do here back in the spring of 2015. City council moved the open space program with all our fee acquisitions that we present a conservation easement to a holder to further protect these lands from any further development or opportunities that could come about. Very similar to this property, the newbie, similar to the newbie property, the Herner, Hartman, and French properties which were immediately to the west of this particular site. We granted the Longmont Conservation District an easement on those properties 2018. The conservation district has reviewed the conservation easement language and approved that and because of the disposition of open space granting that a particular land right to another entity were required by ordinance to go through this particular process and review by the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board. And along with that requires the public hearing which I believe we just kind of had. With that being said we're requesting a recommendation from the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board to the council for the issuance of this conservation easement. Minor fiscal impacts would be that we would pay the Longmont Conservation District a sum of $5,000 to monitor this conservation easement in perpetuity. So it's to help cover their cost to monitor this conservation easement over time. So as maybe Paige may be able to tell board members this is relatively inexpensive from our perspective and we do have a very strong working relationship with the Longmont Conservation District. In your packet there's some of the details of what's included and what has been prohibited and allowed on this property. It's strictly an agricultural property. The newbie property possesses conservation values of great importance to the city of Longmont and Weld County. It provides agricultural lands of state national significant. It provides unique visual corridors as well as community buffers and one of the unique things about one of our these agricultural properties. It does have an opportunity to provide a trail corridor between Union Reservoir and St. Frane State Park. So we do find this to be a very unique agricultural property. With the approval if this moves forward we will take this then to city council with an amended agricultural lease that will reflect the conservation easement. The procedures in the process are outlined in the memorandum that have been provided for you of the direction from the council, the public meeting. The only comment that we did receive throughout this process was that of Gordon Pedro at last month's meeting. And with that I believe you have a vicinity map that shows the exact location of that particular property, the newbie farms property. And with that that ends my presentation and I am happy to address any questions or concerns the board might have. Board members yes Dan go ahead. A couple of questions Dan on your map. I see the blue outline looks kind of like a figure eight. I don't see a river there. Where was this trail supposed to go? It will likely run just to the north of Well County Road 26. In the next couple years the perimeter trail around Union Reservoir will be constructed. And with this opportunity, with the Herner open space there and the newbie open space, we have the ability to make a parallel trail corridor off-road north of Well County Road 26 that would tie then right at the corner of the newbie property into St. Vrain State Park. I noticed in the rights it talks about the trail on the periphery that looks like we're now joining a bunch of open spaces together. Do peripheries include the old open space thing or is it all one big one? Is this going to put a limit on you on us? You know if we stick Herner and newbie together does that mean we can no longer run a trail north south? No no no not at all. Again the intention here is really to more of an east west corridor between Union Reservoir and St. Vrain State Park. Okay just bringing that up I wasn't sure if you glue these together or how if they stay separate? Each one of these is managed by different operators. Well as a matter of fact the newbie and the Herner and the French and Hartman open space currently are all under one agricultural operator. However if for some reason through a master planning effort or something of that nature where we wanted to make a trail connection between the city of Longmont and Mead maybe immediately adjacent or within the close proximity of Willard County Road 5 would make a great north south corridor for trail connection between Longmont and Mead. Again I think we need just to be consider of our agricultural operations and we don't want to fragment those or make agriculture any more difficult by fragmenting a property that will negatively impact that. But again this gives us the opportunity to do that. Thank you Dan and Dan any other board members wish to ask Dan any questions or discuss this? Jeff Happy, Paige, Rob, Manoj, excellent. In that case I would entertain a motion to recommend to City Council, I'm looking for the text on page eight that this be approved. Is anybody wish to make that motion? You can make that motion. Thank you Paige. So you need to restate it. Secretary, do you need that read out? It would be the text of number one on page eight of our packet. If you could Paige that'd be great. Thank you. Sure. I don't know if it will be the exact text but I would move that our board recommend that City Council approve the granting of a conservation easement to the Longmont Conservation District on the new B property. Thank you very much Paige. Can I see a second? Rob is seconding. Okay any further discussion? Okay then we'll call the question. All those in favor of recommending the approval of an issuance of a conservation easement to the City Council please raise your hands. The motion passes unanimously. Thank you everybody. Thank you. Okay item 6B Boulder County 2021 open space and trails request. Dan this is you as well? It is. A busy night for me. This particular item is an item that comes around on an annual basis where Boulder County parks and open space request from municipalities across the county. Their request for GIS information, open space land acquisitions, and trail connections, and corridors. I believe in you. Dan I'm going to interrupt you just for a second board. This is page 12 of your packet. With that being said in your packet you do have the previous request from 2019. This particular application or setup is going to cover that 2021 application process and in your packet I've described for you three particular requests for open space, land acquisitions, and three additional trail projects. Some of which we've combined a couple items into one. But the idea tonight was really to you know run this by you to see your thoughts on these six particular items and then if you had any other additional items or thoughts or reshuffling of these because they are in order of priority based on staff discussions. So if you don't mind I'll jump right in unless there are questions before we get started. Hearing none the first open space request that we are asking for is assistance with the land acquisition of the Adam Dairy Farm property. Which is located just to the west of St. Frank State Park. Approximately 130 acres and if I'm not mistaken there's approximately six shares of the oligarchy ditch associated with that property. Under a pretty hearty agricultural program the property has about a three-quarters of a mile of the St. Frank running through that. We anticipate the costs of this property with land and water to be approximately five and a half million dollars. So that is our top priority. Again we feel that that's an important acquisition, connection to St. Frank State Park, connection to the St. Frank Greenway, community buffer, all those great things associated with the open space program. Dan question on this one. When we say we're asking for Boulder County's assistance are we asking for a specific percentage? Are we asking for loan guarantees? What kind of assistance are we requesting? You know again we're going to leave that up to them depending on what other municipal requests are but in years past we've asked for this particular land acquisition to be approximately two million dollars. Dan Holson. I noticed Dan that in the previous year response to us asking for something in Weld County they were like eh we're we're Boulder County I mean not in so many words so uh do we need to ask for the water rights part of it or the I'm just guess you know I don't know you you're doing the job but I wonder if we need to be more specific then hey give us some land that's not even in your county. Right I certainly understand where you're coming from on this one. You know Boulder County has purchased land in Weld County with us on a number of occasions. They also hold a variety of conservation easements on city land including sandstone ranch. So it's just a little bit different when they participate in land acquisitions in Weld County generally speaking those dollars don't come out of their open space chest if you will it comes out from their general fund. Typically what ends up happening is we uh if they participate in that we end up doing reciprocal conservation easements. They'll hold a conservation easement for the property. We tend to run a few things by them as we do land management but historically it's worked great they've worked well with us in land acquisitions in Weld County. I think the phrase is Boulder County is willing to consider partnering and making a limited financial commitment in select Weld County properties. That was from last year when we were asking for double six and Olander. Correct. Okay just you know your business better than I do maybe but it makes me nervous to have this be our number one priority if they say no never mind on this are we disappointed on the other two requests. Gotcha then we jump down to number two or Dan yeah go ahead David. I was going to add I think the piece that I think having worked with them over the years when it says select pieces the county I think looks at waterways as in the St. Brain Creek as very continuous not bound by jurisdiction of boundaries that they don't recognize Weld County versus Boulder County. So specifically we have properties that have the ability to protect riparian corridors and stream corridors. They're much more willing to participate in those and and this property does have a significant piece of the St. Brain Creek and if you start looking at it from St. Brain State Park to this piece of property back to Sandstone Ranch back in both we start putting together a significant piece of ownership of public land along the St. Brain Creek. Thank you David. If there's no other comment from the board Dan you want to go on to number two. Jeff did you have a question? I was hesitating to ask I see the map where it there's a circle on the page that kind of shows the general error but I decided to go google maps and look around and I guess I was wanting a little clarification on what exactly the property is that we're attempting to get. All right if you if you look at the map the Adams Farm Property Acquisition Circle the the the property name is directly above that parcel it's 130 acres. Right I see that I just wanted to look at it more closely so I okay google maps I'm just wondering I see St. Brain Park I guess I don't know the current area well enough to know what are we really saying. Gotcha and I'm happy to you know again forward you a map you know and so that we can zoom in on that again as much as we tried to anticipate that today it's just very difficult. It's fine it's fine it doesn't matter to do that. That's why I sort of hesitated so let's just move on. Okay the second particular parcel that we're asking Boulder County for is I'm pretty certain you're all very familiar with McLaughlin property that we just negotiated again another deal with Boulder County Parks and Open Space. On the east side of Clover Basin Reservoir there's a 14 acre parcel that's currently for sale rather expensive as open space but we're asking the county if they would be willing to purchase this for us it would provide us the opportunity for a trailhead on the east side of Clover Basin Reservoir directly north of Nelson Road and it would create a great another passive recreation opportunity for us with parking and if that were to come true with that land acquisition I'm certain we would work closely with our water resources team to capture a recreation lease on Clover Basin Reservoir very similar to what we've done at Lake McIntosh in Union Reservoir. So that's our number two priority. Our third priority is shifting back then again in previous years we've asked Boulder County to help participate in the acquisition of the Olander property. Recently the owner separated the water from the land so in order for us to have a successful agricultural operation and to pursue that acquisition we would need those shares of water back on that land. So we are asking Boulder County's assistance to make that happen. So that would be the three priorities for our land acquisitions in that particular category. Any questions regarding those three? If not, I'll move on Dan. On the Dorfman property I'm familiar with that reservoir. I am going to mute it. Is this the dam that road that goes in? That's correct. That would be as that the current Clover Basin Reservoir is currently under a recreation lease and if you right by the dam there if you make a right hand turn or to the north that would be the access to the recreation club's general parking area and shade shelters. We believe that by furthering in the acquisition of that 14 acres to the east it would create you know better buffer and give us better access in potential trail corridor or connections to Clover Basin Reservoir. The city already owns that dam and parking and or is this part of what we're buying or I guess I want to know that we're getting all the way up to the lake. So the lake is very similar to Lake McIntosh where the city it's a reservoir company of which the city has 95% of the shares of that reservoir company. So what we would end up doing then like Lake McIntosh like Union Reservoir we would rent the recreation lease from the reservoir company and so we would then have access to the dam to the lake provide passive recreation opportunities similar to what we've done at Lake McIntosh. Okay that makes sense. Okay thanks. Yep. Manoj? Oh sorry. No I'll wait. Manoj? Is the public allowed to go to Clover Basin Reservoir? No it's currently leased by a recreation a private recreation group right now that I do know that they do you know some boating and those types of activities on the reservoir at this point in time. Yeah I went there last week it was there was a lock on the gate. Yeah it's it's currently only available to club members. I see. Okay. David you're addressing Manoj's question? Yes I was going to say I think it's one of the things that Dan as he talked about you know this acquisition along with the city having that ownership in the in the water there that I think long term as we do a management plan that would be our goal then is to take back that recreation lease so that we can be available for the the residents not just private club members but again that that's going to be down the road as you start putting together the management plan. Thank you Jeff. I was just going to comment that I see water ski buoys in there and I wondered is that something we're not taught you passive to me means like boats that you paddle not water skiing. Correct. Are we being opposed on this from the club members then? Well I mean we until we own the land and then have access to the reservoir we've not approached the the club at all. But we already know 95% of the water rights just not the recreation rights. Is that what you're saying? Well it's yeah it's one and the same they're all owned by the reservoir company of which the city of Longmont is 95% you know of the shareholder of that reservoir. So we're really talking about buying property next to the reservoir where we already have a lot of the water. Correct. Rob Putnam you need to unmute yourself Rob. Rob did you have a comment you need to unmute yourself? Yes I did. I was going to suggest that given my experience at McIntosh Lake with all the boats and the swimming and all that I was wondering if Clover Basin Reservoir could kind of replace what's going on at McIntosh Lake. I don't know that we would necessarily want to replace McIntosh. It certainly provides an opportunity for dispersed recreation. We do know that the McLaughlin property has some pretty significant avian species. I think we would do maybe a number of things that we've done similarly at Lake McIntosh. But with Clover Basin Reservoir I think we would probably buoy off the western portion of that lake to provide habitat for watchable wildlife very similar to what we've done at McIntosh. But again the concept is all is that we would have the property we would have the water we would have a management plan and we would be able to actively manage for passive recreation opportunities without negatively impacting the wildlife in the area. Thank you Dan Olson. Actually the history sounds like McIntosh because before the city turned into a recreation area it had a motorboat club on it also and there was a jump in the buoys just like there is at Clover Basin. You've mentioned several times McLaughlin but your map says Dorfman. That's the acquisition is the Dorfman on the east of the reservoir is the Dorfman property that we would like to acquire. The McLaughlin property is the 70 acres to the west that we just purchased with Boulder County. Got it thank you. In that case I'd like to go ahead and separate the question into two parts. The first part is the priority ratings of these three requests. Is anyone on the board got any concerns about the prioritization of these three requests to Boulder County? Second are there any other requests that we wish to recommend that Dan's group consider making to Boulder County? In that case I'm prepared to entertain a motion that PRAB recommend the approval of this request to Boulder County who would like to make that motion. Not you Dan, you can talk though. Question for you? Yes. Again that's three of the land acquisitions. The other portion. Oh the trails sorry. Three trail components also. Sorry I didn't mean to cut you off. Please continue. I'm just clarifying questions and making certain that you understand where we're headed with this. Yeah no I actually knew that but I lost track. Dan Olson? I do notice that the other cities ask for a lot more numbered things so maybe we should up our number. Got anything else in your back pocket Dan? I'm certain we can come up with something. Or maybe this is better. Maybe I don't know what the strategy is. You have more experience here but I'm looking at the list at Erie and Lyons and Boulder and that goes on for pages. Well and I could tell you that the water right alone on the Olander property is a little over a million and a half dollars. We're asking for two million dollars on the Adam Farm Dairy. They're asking for $60,000 an acre for the 14 acres on the Dofman property. So it's I mean what we're asking for I mean I don't want to be. Got it. Necessarily but we love being partners with the county. You know we've been very successful with the partnerships that we've had especially you know not only the land acquisition but the trail development items also. Okay thanks for that background. If I may you want to move on to the trail component? All right on the trail side of things there's really a couple three priorities that we've listed here and each of those there's probably a couple elements. If you're familiar with Dry Creek Community Park over by Silver Creek High School that trail connection is pretty much all intact. However we don't have a connection between the city of Longmont's Dry Creek Community Park and Boulder County's AHI-Largerman complex. So our request for there for that would be a an underpass at 75th Street so that we could successfully cross underneath 75th Street from the Dry Creek Community Park and then get into the Largerman AHI property. The AHI property currently has about five and a five to five and a half miles of soft surface trails around their Boulder County property. If then we were successful with the Dofman property then it would be ideal too to have an underpass at Nelson Road so that we could continue from Dry Creek Community Park into the AHI under Airport Road and into the McLaughlin Clover Basin Resort. So that would be our first priority. Again it's looking at regional trail connections within our community and within Boulder County eastern Boulder County. So that's our number one priority. We already know that we're moving forward expanding the St. Frank Greenway to the west. So that's our our second priority is a continuation of that priority making certain that we've got trail connections successfully from Golden Ponds underneath Airport Road likely up the west side of Airport Road over to Pella Crossing. That's our second priority and request. And our third priority request is again a combination of trail planning efforts. As we were sitting down with staff members we realized that we've got some gaps in community connections and one of those is a trail corridor or trail connection whether it's the St. Frank Greenway, Coal Creek Trail, Dry Creek Community. So we're looking at the gap between the city of Longmont and the town of Erie. So that's included in our request requesting that Boulder County would take on that master planning process as well as if you flipped over to I believe it's page 19 on your map and handout is the trail connection the Rocky Mountain Greenway that a variety of folks have been talking about for years that would make the connection from Longmont to Rocky Mountain National Park somewhere you know between here tagging lions and somewhere maybe not directly through Button Rock Preserve but making that northern Boulder County connection from Longmont to Rocky Mountain National Park. So we're asking to continue that process. We were in the midst of you know that discussion just about flood time when a lot of priorities changed. So that is our third request is to proceed and move forward with those two master planning processes. Questions? Thoughts? Yes Rob. Rob you're muted. Rob you need to unmute yourself to make your comments. I move that we recommend the approval of the 2021 request to Boulder County. The motion has been made. Do I have a second? Jeff Ellen Bogan thank you. Is there any discussion of the motion? Any concerns about the priorities or believe that there's another thing that we ought to be asking for? Okay in that case I would ask you to show by a show of hands if you approve of this motion and the motion passes unanimously. Thank you. Thank you Dan. Okay that was item six new business. We now move to items from staff in no particular order. David Bell? Just wanted to give the update that is in the packet but really to us I think one of the biggest things that we have going right now is that we have two new water resource rangers up at Button Rock. So Miles Churchill is up there. He was the season one. Jamie was here and then Price Hadley is on and he is being settled in. So we're looking forward to that and then we're in the process of being the job description and advertised for John Brim's position at Union Reservoir. Great thank you David. Jeff Friesener? Yeah I have just a couple of things also. The first is a reminder to you Katya, Rob and Dan that your terms are up and the council is accepting applications until November 6th if you want to apply again and or if you have suggestions of other people that you'd like to apply for the board please do that. Second we've worked with Boulder County Public Health and have their approval to reopen the Callahan House for events, small events based on the capacities and then finally we will be opening the ice rink in our working on our plan for that right now. We're looking at opening around November 20th and we will continue to evaluate through the season how we're doing financially to determine how long we'll keep the ice rink open for the season and that's all I have. Thank you Jeff go ahead Paige. I just wanted to say thank you for whatever you could do to open the ice rink because as a parent of a young kid trying to figure out what we're going to do in the winter outside it's been feeling pretty limited because a lot of our social opportunities have done you know things that we could do outside and a lot of those are going to go away in the winter so I really value and I think other parents will value having that resource open and if there's anything that we can do as a board to you know support that resource to Council I would love for us to consider it. Okay thank you. Yes Dan Olson. Thanks to you both there are actually three of you for these really extensive information packets there's a lot of info in here I was really great. I have various questions about individual parts is this something I do now or items from the board? You can go ahead and ask questions on the staff reports now. Okay about tennis courts that exist now the doors have been chained open since they reopened in whatever that was May or June it's I understand that the city of Boulder and in Broomfield they shut their gates now or let us shut and I wonder if that if it's time for that yet in particular at Pratt Park the Westmost Court has a door that's chained open balls that go out it go directly on to Ithaca Court a street we joke every time we play that oh we won't get COVID but we're getting hit by a car so it I mean it's a silly thing but I wonder if it's time to start letting folks open and close gates and keep the balls in the court and then next issue might be the quail courts the benches were removed and I get the reasoning behind all this but I wonder what the health departments are saying about that now you know it's easy to leave things as they are but they're inconvenient as they are and maybe there's not a health reason to continue that way so you know I'm not I'm not sure who to bring that to David or Jeff or I'm not sure who that you know who's the guy here David yeah I'd be glad to weigh in on that a little bit it's again that's a good question and I'll tell you right now my staff is out in those areas is raising the same question they hear from the users too it's just an easy one that boulder county really said that's what the guideline was to keep them open so there wasn't that it was to remove touch points and I get it but we're not consistent what's that we're not consistent throughout boulder county throughout boulder county we're trying you right so and that's it we went back and we have a weekly meeting with the the city of boulder and boulder county public health so it's a question we can ask again but um we actually had that same that same piece internally and we are just trying to be as consistent maybe not with other agencies but with the guidance is and it's a pretty easy one they said keep them open and remove touch points okay we've just been trying to stay consistent but it's one that we definitely on a weekly basis we can ask those questions so I'm glad to do that especially since that one I know I'm even go for it I think you said goes into another court but yeah they end up in the street too like you said so well that's the one that gets me is pratt park it goes straight into the street there's a hill there and you know we joke about it but god forbid anybody really does get hit that'd be horrible right you know and I I would say staff is definitely done but we have okay guidelines we're gonna we'll we'll bring it up next week for sure I have a couple more if you don't mind I'll go for it the the dickens bridge I read about we're gonna put something that keeps people from jumping does that mean it'll get to be reopened so a roof for I don't know what so I I think um damage yeah so Steve ranzweiler's working on design and actually it's it's fairly um intricate to look at I you know you could have put basically vcc dot they put chain link fence over the top right it's horrible we didn't want that so Steve ranzweiler actually found a local um person that does welding and it's basically it looks like the design from the inside of the the observation deck um and I think it is the empire state building but it's like some curly queues of iron work that come up that keep you from climbing up the outside and some wings that go to the other side we will never stop everyone that wants to jump off of that but our goal really is to get it opened up so that 99 percent of the population that really needs it can use it and not punish all those people because we have a few people that just are going to continue to do that so I think for me and you can point to me I was the one that really pushed hard to keep it closed this because we could not figure it out this year it was a new structure we needed some time to figure it out with everything else going on it was my quickest and easiest way to try to do that but the goal is to get it open and try to get some design work done and we're actually pursuing a grant that might help offset some of that as well okay great I I get it I understand all the reasoning I just saw that note in your note and it's like oh good I wanted to hear about it okay another one on the resilient saint brain which I guess is Steve again uh it talks about another closure um and it was like from Rogers road I guess to sunset maybe and it talked about utilities detours are you're going to have a detour for bikes and pedestrians maybe along Rogers or I mean I didn't mention that but I assume that's part of the plan it's one things that you know I gave I think I mentioned earlier that staff we had scheduled here Steve was scheduled I told him that there wasn't a reason for him to sit through the whole meeting and I probably cover most of it but this is one that Steve really does a great job on he works very closely with the biking community okay these closures and these closures could last a year and a half to two years as we work through this um Steve is always working to make sure that we have an alternate route I'll tell you they're not always the best or the ideal but um Steve will work very closely with everyone to make sure that we have alternate routes as we're doing these phases of the project I got more for Jeff Centennial Pool so I try to swim masters it's difficult you must sign up two weeks minus one hour to get a spot there are only 12 slots in the morning and I am number I am spot number 18 on the wait list for next Monday if you can believe it there are 30 people wanting to swim any chance we could get a fifth lane or a sixth lane for an hour because the others are open what are they the others being open during that time just they are used for one person to swim laps yep I'll check into that and the US swimming association has talked to the CDC or whatever their current best practices is to have four people per lane rather than three any chance we could do that sort of thing not a chance okay that's what Becky has said that yeah and we've we argued that several weeks ago with bowler county public health because we were feeling the same thing we referenced the other swimming organizations and they said no one per lane because you aren't keeping six feet of distance when you're swimming by each other in the lane my argument was that you're only going by somebody for one or two seconds and they basically were adamant that we made that change okay yeah well it would help masters I get I mean it's just three hours a week in the you know Monday through Friday I'm sorry Monday Wednesday and Friday six to seven that's a total of six lap swimmers keep a total of whatever that is 18 master swimmers from swimming it would you know we'd prefer but I get it you know people complain finally I haven't heard anything we passed a bond issue has that been two years ago an hour was that just last year for centennial upgrades yep is anything there no we're waiting for direction for from the city administration on whether we continue to invest in centennial pool or we start working again on another rec center it's difficult to do that right now with no public meetings and that sort of thing but that's really the holdup is we spend eight hundred and fifty four thousand dollars in a facility that we've had two studies tell us that it's about at the end of its lifespan yeah I remember that argument last year at this time we said no let's hold off I didn't know what the next step was okay yeah thank you Dan Dan Wilford oh I'm sorry Paige go ahead and then Dan I'll call on you yeah I don't think this was in that I didn't read about this in the packet but I was just wondering if there was any update about this situation where the kids were building the bike park on the edge of the riparian area we talked about that and I just haven't heard any if there's been any further action on that situation so so Steve Brandsweiler is actually leading that effort Dan Wilford with Timber Tosti with the operations group and Steve with the planning group we're looking at what we could potentially do they have a couple of ideas that the really goal was to reach out to the neighbor and figure out what could work but I think again we recognize that our our responsibility is to protect the parent area so probably a bit more than four hours we work with that but with the the whole and I hate to use this but right now we it's hard to figure out how you do a committee meeting I don't think we'll head like that so Steve's been working on that but Tosti on the on our side of it Dan maybe it could be a little bit more of an update on what the the plans were but we've done a pretty good turn scope and what we think is possible but again it's really really engaging with the community thank you David anything else before Dan brings up his items Dan Wilford if Dan have any additional information on that I mean I would love to hear and maybe we could have an update at our next meeting because I was hoping if there was a public meeting or anything to hear about it so um I will I'm actually all these technologies and Steve is actually right here with me so I'll run that by him as well as as the uh you should have come to the meeting because I got to the line where the tennis court so Tim is responding to tennis courts and Steve's responding to bike paths I have two um two updates one very brief um like David had mentioned we have two additional positions that are being filled one is a full-time position another is a temporary position as a natural resources field technician it's amazing you know the the numbers that we're seeing in the applicants for the full-time position I have 83 applications so we're reviewing those now with hopes of trying to narrow that down to interview five or six that's certainly a challenge the other thing that's going on right now and I think I earlier this evening I forwarded you a um a letter to Great Outdoors Colorado with a letter of support from the Parks and Recreation Advisory Board we are applying for this resilient communities grant and would love to have a letter of support from you folks in and you know from GOKO it's in response to the unprecedented disruption caused by COVID-19 that the Great Outdoors Colorado was throwing 15 million dollars at one-time resilient projects to help partner advanced outdoor recreation stewardship and land protection so we are partnering with Wildland Restoration Volunteers for this grant that's due October 16th so that's only four days and we're requesting from GOKO approximately 425 thousand dollars included in that packet is 155 thousand dollars to make modifications to the bridge at Dickens Farm so a number of other items we have 45 thousand dollars to do beaver protection on the trees along the St. Vrain and some of our creek corridors we've got 22 thousand dollars for tree plantings and shrubs we have an additional 25 thousand dollars for native seed collections so a variety of projects that we will be working with Wildland Restoration Volunteers and it's our hope to submit this on the 16th we should hear by the middle of November for award of this but we would greatly appreciate that letter support from the parks board I already got comment back from Katcha so then I greatly appreciate that and if you would mind giving her the authority to go ahead and sign that letter or tweak it any way you want but if we could have that so that we could send it in that package for the 16th we would greatly appreciate it thank you did anybody on the board not have an opportunity to read the letter prior to the meeting Jeff you did not have the opportunity you read it Rob read it Dan okay Minos you read it great so anybody got any objections with some minor wording changes for typos and style okay can I hear a motion to approve the letter substantially and allow me to sign it and send it Jeff moves Rob seconds all those in favor please indicate by raising your hands the motion passes unanimously thank you very much thank you anything else Dan in terms of items from staff I'm good thank you very good thank you items from the board Rob Potem nothing excuse me Dan Olson no thank you for letting me interrupt before I'm good thank you for all of your substantive comments Paige no my item was going to be about the ice rink and since you're opening it I you stole my thunder so I'm excited to hear that that's happening and hopefully we'll be able to continue and also I'm excited to try out the new trails if we get one day it'll be great to have those trail connections on the open space projects that you're proposing to Boulder County so fingers crossed that they will look favorably on our proposal great Manoj no I don't have anything thanks to Jeff for opening the Memorial Building I'm fully enjoying the badminton with a group of 15 people Jeff I hear that yeah I have no items I had two items but I can only remember one of them but if the other one was important it will come to me Jeff you mentioned wondering if anybody knew of anybody that they might want to urge to apply for an open position on the board and I did bring this up with David and then subsequently with the city clerk but I'll just read it into the record here I do have a potential candidate but unfortunately this person is not eligible to serve on the board because she is not a U.S. citizen she is a dreamer and unfortunately the city requires that you be a voting citizen in order to be able to apply to the board so I realized to any to any city boards so I realized that this is not something that this board can solve but I wanted to raise awareness and that's all I've got because I can't remember my other thing okay any further items before I move on thank you Dan Olson hey David you were right McIntosh Lake cured itself of its overcrowding by draining the water and having the weather get cooler and just so you know that it will be an ongoing look at how we try to do a better job next year I don't know what that's going to be where we've already had some started some of those conversations and by the sun rising much later and going down sooner right as a as a person who had been going down at 5 30 in the morning three times a week okay we are going to open up the public invited to be heard the information is being displayed on the screen for those viewing from home if you wish to comment please dial 888-788-0099 that's a toll-free number when you are prompted please enter the meeting id 895-1218-1617 participant id is the pound sign and you will be asked to mute your computer when you call we will now wait for five minutes Dan Olson yeah I'm sorry yes go ahead is it is it all right if one of the pieces I think with not having in person meetings is all related to connect with staff to the board is okay if Dan and I share a couple piece of information has got from staff real quick while this is we're waiting as well look is that okay of course so Dan I talked to Timberlake here chatted with him and the keeping the gates open is a Boulder County Public Health Order right now but it's also a recommendation for the National Tennis Association so he will take that to the meeting with Boulder County Public Health this week coming up one thing he recommended is maybe we can keep some gates open so people have option to go through a door but ones that open directly on the streets maybe those are ones that have the ability to be closed so that we can that's smart so we'll bring that up and we'll look at creative ideas but Timberlake now feels that with it being a Boulder County Public Health Order and the National Tennis Association recommendation that is he feels is an easy one for us to stay in compliance with unless we get some other direction from them so we'll look for other ways to do that but that's why he feels it keeping them open right now is what he needs to do but we'll bring that up this week okay I promised several people I would ask thank you so thank you that all makes sense I get it oh well I got you David I noticed that the bathroom doors are now locked but a couple of bathrooms the lights still on inside is that a mistake that might be a mistake I'll check with Timber on that so yeah so the I should that should be in the Minnesota too that the the neighborhood parks I believe are all being closed up now and locked and then the community parks so yeah like today and tomorrow was in your note exactly and that's the dog walk last night we saw the door was locked at Pratt and the light was open but today it might be different so I don't have an update all right we'll double check that though yeah okay thanks to you and Timber by transfer that thanks to Timber please you bet chair I'm gonna stop sharing and then wait for the live stream to catch up thank you and as of right now we do not have any callers thank you very much thank you to all staff especially those of you that facilitated this virtual meeting at this point I will entertain a motion to adjourn Manoj moves to adjourn can I have a second thank you this meeting is adjourned thanks everybody thanks all thank you all have a pleasant evening all right thank everyone