 I think Alderman Vander will you have documents yet bill has Okay Well a little Cleanup work here before we get started then this evening. We're waiting for a couple of documents I don't know how many of you are aware of or if you got a call from the governor's office today Did everyone get a call that he'll be in town tomorrow? 245 to land park Community Center. He will be signing some bills. I would hope everyone can make it 245 he'll be down there Hopefully everyone can make it. He will be signing bills some legislation that Senator light Pam did and I believe some that represent Ben Akron had So and I'm not sure about representative Costell if he had any in there either, but You'll be saying and that goes for a new alderman sitting out here, too you're more than welcome to come down tomorrow and Join us the other thing I'd like to say congratulations to well welcome to the new alderman we have one with us this evening and Congratulations to the alderman who got back in Congratulations all you guys and come on. It's good. Good job And I'd like to thank all the men moody and the other all of Alderman Doyle's not here this evening And Alderman winning girls not here this evening, but thank you for the time you spent on the council office. It's been a pleasure Okay, what's that now? Are we ready? Does anyone have any questions or anything they like discussed before we get moving? All of them on to me Thank You. Mr. Mayor a bit Steve can answer this question right away We all have this invitation from Mark Sinema Can we go to that? I mean we're getting free tickets and food she Steve doesn't have that See what I mean Only we all German are getting this free movie Mark Sinema sent a letter out to all the alderman If they would like to come to a free movie To see their big-screen TV that the right one and what else is on there? Well, and we get popcorn and a soft drink If it isn't over a dollar, you're safe, right, but but of course the ticket is I don't know what the practice of alderman has been over the years. I know at one time The theater used to provide movie passes to the alderman on an annual basis. I don't know if they still do that I can say that when I started I was offered one and I declined it. I guess I Can't give you You know, I can say what I would do would be not to accept it Unless they're making that offer to the public as a whole, you know, but if they're providing this to alderman Separate from the general public. I guess I would err on the side of Avoiding any potential conflict to the event that Marcus cable were to come for some, you know applying for some conditional use permit that you know, arguably This could influence you perhaps in your decision. I guess that's that's all I can say on the spur of the moment I don't know what the monetary value is but It's probably not real great, but I would caution against accepting free tickets to the local theater Thank you. Thank you very much All my prayers Thank you, your honor just for the benefit of the 3d u alderman that we're elected 1 being here in 2 Which I think we'll probably be watching TV If you would announce when they get sworn in. Oh, yes Good point April 20th, you'll be sworn in is new alderman that it's Tuesday evening April 19th Two weeks from tonight is our last council meeting of the old council. Go ahead Their agendas will be ready to Friday before Come to my office and get them, but I need to see all the other persons elect before the new ones Prior to the first meeting so I can give you certain instructions that I give everybody and they're not bad Okay All right We'll call the 25th regular meeting to come a council to order Pat. Would you call the roll Bowman? Bird Excuse I couldn't hear those Excuse Pledge allegiance minutes of the previous common council meeting has entered on the record. Move to second that to minutes of the previous council meeting we stand approved on your discussion. Hearing none, all in favor? Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. Alderman Berg is going to lead us, or Bowman? Leading us on a pledge. I pledge allegiance to the flag of the United States of America and to the Republic for which it stands, one nation under God, indivisible with liberty and justice for all. Resonation, Steve? Sletter to the mayor from Monroe-Gerkey, advising that due to ill health, it's with deep regret that he submits his resignation as a member of the Board of Review. Thanks to the mayor, thanks to the council for their friendship and assistance over the years. Signed by Monroe-Gerkey. That can be accepted and filed. And also a letter from Thomas Marini Jr. to the mayor advising that of his intent to resign from the city Board of Appeals and Board of Housing Appeals effective April 1, 2004 because he's accepted a job promotion within US Bank which requires a move to Cincinnati, Ohio. That can be placed on file. Public form? No way. Okay. All in the graph. Thank you, Your Honor. On the consent agenda, items 25-1 through 25-8, I would move that all ROs and communications be accepted and filed. All ROCs be accepted and adopted. We pass all resolutions and general ordinances. It's been moved and seconded that all ROs from documents 25-1 through 25-28, correct? Okay. All ROs be accepted and filed. All ROCs be accepted and adopted. Resolutions and ordinance be put upon their passage. Alderman Manning. Thank you, Your Honor. I'd like to pull out 25-10 and ask our finance director, Steve Gebhardt, to speak to that. And to District 12 and let us know how that district's been doing. District 12 is located in the general area of Niagara and 8th Street. The district was formed in the year 2000 the reason for the audit at this time is that the majority of the expenditures have been completed by 2002 and under the state regulations that is required to have an audit at that time. You'll see in there that there is some deficit in the capital project fund at that time because of the initial expenditures being required. The city did make an advance in the general fund that is what there is a liability to be paid back in the future. So it shows a deficit in the fund balance at that point in time. But the district, as of this year, it tax increment over $94,000 and it had principal and interest payments on the debt service of $59,000. So there is an excess of $34,000 of difference that would be able to pay back the advance in the future years, of course, to be able to pay the remaining advance. So at this point in time, you know, we're looking like within a couple of years that the advance will be fully repaid. Anything else? If there's no other questions. Pat, would you call the roll? Perg, Pone, Gough, Manning, Montemayor, Moody, Perez, Rinflaich, Steffen, Van Akron, Vanderweel, Wongaman, Warner, Bauman, 14-9. Motion carried, 25-29 through 31 to be referred. 25-32 by the city clerk submitting the special audit committee report to the Common Council assisting the results of their investigation into the financing of Blue Harbor. Alderman Warner. Well, thank you, Your Honor. I believe the correct motion on this document is to accept and file the report of officer. Move to second, accept and file the report of officer. Under discussion. Under discussion, Your Honor. I think there's been a lot of public interest in the financing of the Blue Harbor project and this report clearly details to the extent that it's possible under current laws and that we could work out in a good contract that the project is very well protected. Perhaps if the council doesn't mind, there's some, I could read the high points of this and I think that would address possibly some of the public's concern. You have it, of course. So on that first, I'd like to read the report in its entirety, but think of, if I start with the introduction that came from a special audit committee. And this is it. It says, this report constitutes the results of our investigation into the financing of Blue Harbor as it relates to the city of Sheboygan's portion of the investment in the project. We were asked by the mayor and the common council to address various concerns. This committee reviewed the development agreement and summaries of other pertinent documents prepared. And the summaries of other pertinent documents prepared by city of Sheboygan's staff. We also interviewed persons with relevant information in compiling this report, all as related in the printed minutes, which I believe everyone did receive on a regular basis. The findings of the committee, the city of Sheboygan's obligation on the convention center and parking lot is not to exceed $8.2 million. Sheboygan will own this portion of the Blue Harbor development. That means the citizens and the city of Sheboygan will own it. Thus, the facilities themselves are collateral against any default and the guarantees of the developer. Number two, Sheboygan has put in place cost controls such that the obligations will not exceed $8.2 million and less requested by Sheboygan. All of the construction contracts were described to us as fixed price contracts. There is no indication at this time that Sheboygan will require or request additional spending on the convention center and parking lot. Item three, Sheboygan has implemented a payment system which requires that all requests for payment must be within the budget guidelines. Further, the construction budget categories are closed, meaning that any savings and construction costs in category A cannot then be shifted to cover overages in category B. Item four, the developer has leased the convention center for 15 years under an operating agreement which also has five-year options. The developer has guaranteed projected room tax payments totally or actually project room tax payments totally of $25,944,247 through 20,028, which amount is about 9 million more than the debt cost including interest. Item five, there are a series of guarantee devices including a one million guarantee deposit, a $500,000 reserve fund, along with a series of personal and corporate guarantees. These devices can be released upon meeting certain performance requirements. Sheboygan agreed to loan four million to the developer for the resort project. There is no provision which would require additional lending by Sheboygan. There are private lenders in place for the resort project and the related condominium project. The developer has an equity interest in the development of $7.6 million. The developer entered into a reimbursement agreement for the full amount of the city loan and a portion of the public improvements. There are guaranteed property tax payments through 2018 of $16,419,000. TIF funds will be used to repay the loan and for 50% of the infrastructure improvements, which include parking lots and sidewalks. The remaining 50% is paid for by the balance of the development project. An additional 20 million of phase two development is needed within the TIF district to meet debt service obligations related to all TIF expenditures. That's in the future. A change in ownership does not remove the tax payments obligation nor the personal guarantees. At this point, infrastructure costs are below projections. The assumptions upon which the repayment to Sheboygan are based are that the room tax will be generated and collected and that the property taxes will be paid. Any failure in the realization of these assumptions is covered by the personal and corporate guarantees. Sheboygan officials represented to us that the business model assumptions and projections are conservative and while no project of this magnitude is risk free, the risks attendant to this project are well accounted for in the business model developed by the city finance director. In closing, it's the conclusions. Number one, based on Sheboygan's business model for Blue Harbor, Sheboygan's taxpayers are protected from unanticipated losses as much that as possible given the inherent risks with the development project of this type. The model developed by the finance director who has over 20 years of experience in public financing is based on reasonable assumptions. The private lenders, which have a much larger financial exposure are paid after the city receives its property tax payments. There are reasonable protections against unanticipated losses in the form of various guarantees described above. An audit would cost an arrange of 10,000 to $20,000 given the nature of the project performance to date. That everything is coming in at or under projected costs and given the nature of the payment request budget format, the cost of an audit is not necessary nor would it be a worthwhile investment of tax dollars and that is the conclusion of the special audit committee. I guess what I'd like to do is first thank Attorney William P. Winkle, Attorney Robert Wells, James Graven, Alan Rudnick, and of course the Reverend Greg Welton for their service to the city of Sheboygan in this endeavor they spent close to four months working on their own time without pay for this. And I think these individuals have done an exceptional job in reviewing the financial aspects of the Blue Harbor Project and I thank them. Thank you. Thank you. Alderman Rainflesch. Thank you, Your Honor. We have the opportunity to take several tours of the project going up down there and ask questions about the other investments that we have going on down there, the interest in there. I understand there's several parties interested in the Rice Building now. We have a lot of proposals for the rest of the undeveloped land right now, none of which would have been occurring right now if it were not for the initial investment of the Blue Harbor Project. Clearly the money the taxpayers spent, we're gonna get back in time. It's like any other project infrastructure. It does cost so we're not gonna get directly back, but over time we're gonna get it back in other ways. So I'm very proud of the project and very happy to see it going on right now. I do, however, still object to the language that we use on line six. Sheboygan agreed to a loan of four million dollars. I still think this is our investment in that and I think we need to make it clear to the public that that is our partnership with the project. Nothing that would be going on down there would be occurring if it wasn't for the four million dollars that we gave them. Now they do agree to pay it back by, as it says in number 12, repayment to Sheboygan are based that the room tax will be generated and collected and the property taxes will be paid. That would occur anyway. We're gonna get that, we're gonna get what they said, the $5 million through 2028. We have guarantees there so that they do not pay that. They'll give us a personal guarantees. I'm proud of the project. I think what we need to explain to the public though is that still is our investment. We are gonna get that back long-term. I'm very proud of the project and I'm proud to see that it's already generated income to the city and we'll continue to do so as well. Thank you. And you are right. That is for future investment in our community, long-range planning and it will generate a lot more than 25 million back by the time we're done with that area. Okay, if there's no other discussion, all in favor of the motion? Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. 2533 will hold for 2542. 2534 through 41 to be referred. 2542 along with 2533 by Alderman Bauman, authorizing entering to contract for the proposed parking lots of South Pure Development, Alderman Bauman. Thank you. I pushed my button a little sooner. I apologize. I'd like to ask for suspension of the rules, please. Second. Moving to second for suspension. Is there any objections? Okay, Your Honor, the reason for the suspension, of course, is so that we can get these parking lots started already because of the fact that spring has sprung and we really need the things to get moving. So I then would like to accept and file the report of officer and then move that to resolution be put upon this passage. Alderman Bauman, just to clarify for the public, we have parking lot, South Pure. You or Tom want to tell them which parking lots we're talking about so they don't think we're paving the whole South Pure. Or, you know, go down, go ahead, be specific here. It includes the cul-de-sac off the east end of South Pure Drive. It's about 74 stalls, I believe. It includes 33 stalls that would be near the slips on South Pure Marina and also for improvements to the parking lot at the Rice Building, which that one we're going to hold off on that till we get through the RFPs, but we will tackle the other two. We need to be done by June 1st for the opening. Tom, as long as you're up there, can you tell them a little bit about the concrete that's going in that we started? They started Tuesday with a stamped concrete in the plaza areas. It's a colored concrete to look like slate it's a greenish color. They'll throw up black powder secondary color over it and they have forms that they lay over the concrete work in there that looks beautiful. It's just like someone spent hundreds of thousand dollars cutting a lane slate in there. If you have time, stop down and take a look just off the promenade on the south plaza. It looks great. It's a very nice detail that it does. Looked at it today. Thank you. We have a motion before us. Just another discussion. Pat, would you call the roll please? Mooney? Aye. Graf? Aye. Manny? Aye. Montmare? Aye. Moody? Aye. Perez? Aye. Greenfield? Aye. Stephan? Aye. Van Akron? Aye. Vanderweel? Aye. Longerman? Aye. Warner? Aye. Bauman? Aye. Berg? Aye. 14 Ayes. Motion carried. 2543 through 45 will lie over. 2546 by Alderman Bauman authorizing your honor. I'd like to ask for suspension one more time please. Second. Second. Go ahead. Moved in second for suspension. Is there any objections? Okay. If there isn't Alderman Bauman would you explain why? Yes, sir. Again, spring has sprung. I'm gonna say that one more time. And the reason being is that we need to get our concrete sidewalk construction projects under actually rolling. So needless to say the contractors are more than willing to get out there and get this going so we'd like to get this going as soon as possible. We'll also need, there's a resume of bids, isn't there? I'm looking for it. You're 2541. That'll have to be acted on also. Okay, separately? No, with it. You can file it at the same time. Well then with that then I would like to make the motion into accept and file the report of officer and pass the attached resolution 2546 for the concrete construction sidewalks. The motion has been made in second to pass the resolution and file the report of office. If there's another discussion, Pat would you call the roll please? Graf, Manny, Montemayor, Moody, Perez, Rinflaesh, Steffen, Van Agren, Van Der Wiel, Wongamon, Warner, Bauman, Berg, Bonet, 14 eyes. Motion carried. The rest 2547 through 52 to be referred, 2553 will lie over, 2554 by protection safety recommending denying beverage license, 6319 based on her voluntary withdrawal from the application process and denying beverage operation license 6360 based on his voluntary withdrawal of his application, his lack of candor on the application and his non-cooperation with the committee. Alderman Van Der Wiel. Thank you, Your Honor. I'd like to make a motion to accept and adopt the report of committee and to deny the two licenses. Also I'd ask if the applicants are here. They're not, Your Honor. We have a motion before us to accept and deny on 2554. Is there any other discussion? Hearing none, would you call the roll please? Manny, Montemayor, Moody, Perez, Rinflaesh, Steffen, Van Agren, Van Der Wiel, Wongamon, Warner, Bauman, Berg, Bonet, Graf, 14 eyes. Motion carried. 2555 will be referred, 2556 to be referred. Can I, go ahead. Forgot to mention any of these referrals. If you're not meeting anymore this council year, you have to tell me that they're going to the next council year. So right now, there's only one document that's going to the new council that was 2555. So if you want any other ones going to the new council, you have to let me know which ones they are. Okay. Done on 2556, there's some language that has to be changed on that one. Very correct. Yeah, in many of ours, we only approved one officer to be hired, and the other two to be looked at when the budget time comes up. They're not already saying three officers that could be hired by 204. I believe that doesn't say that. It does not say that. So that's. You want to approve one officer now? One officer, if finance can find the money, is what we send it to finance for, and two officers are going to be looked at at the time of budget time. I need a second on that. Second. Okay. We have a motion before us, or you need amendment first. This, I vote on the amendment. All, everybody understand the amendment? All in favor of the amendment? Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. And then it can just be referred. Okay. Then it will be referred as amended to finance. 2459 matters laid over by public protection of safety. Recommending filing documents submitting a communication from bare essential skin care, requesting a tour parking sign in front of the business. Alderman Warner. I thank your honor. I would make a motion to accept and adopt the report of committee and pass the attached ordinance. Do you want to take the next document too? Sure on that, I would make a motion the general ordinance be put upon its passage. And that ordinance is to add to the west side of South 11th street from Virginia Avenue to New Jersey Avenue to the no parking period regulations. Correct? Correct. We have motion before us, Alderman Warner. Yes, under discussion, your honor, on the first document, 2459. This is bare essentials on eighth street and with the entourage moving in and he added people in the area for parking in that area. Bare essentials, notice that it was harder for some of their elderly patrons to park in front of the building and get in and out. And so we're going to add that area to the tour parking for daytime only work, business all over so that bare essentials can, their elderly customers can get in there. And the committee thought it was a good idea. It only impacts about two parking spaces right in front of their place. And on the other one, that is an ordinance as you said, that adds the west side of South 11th street from Virginia to New Jersey Avenue to the no parking regulations. And in that instance, a police officer, Melanie Schmidt, has been working with Sheboygan Paper Box to address the problem that's been created when rock line employees park across from their loading docks. When the semis come in, they can't get in. And in working with rock line, they can't force their employees to use their parking lots. So they park on the street and keeps creating these problems rather than giving them tickets or asking them to move all the time by adding this to that area. The trucks will be able to get in for Sheboygan Paper Box and the employees of rock line have enough room in their parking lot to park. You may have to walk a little bit further but they have park adequate parking lots built for them. So this will add that to the no parking regulations. Thank you. Thank you. If there's no other discussion, what do you call it with that? Amanda Mayer, Moody, Perez, Rinfleisch, Steffen, Ben Akron, Vanderwheel, Wangeman, Warner, Bowman, Byrd, Bonet, Rob, Manny, 14 eyes. Motion carried. 2557 can be accepted and adopted. And that's... I need a motion. For me. I'm sorry. All in favor? I need a second. Oh, we have the second. Second. All in favor? Opposed? Motion carried. 2558, Resolution by Alderman Bauman, amending a lease agreement with the Sheboygan Kennel Club for 2004 through 2008. Alderman Bauman. Thank you, Your Honor. I promise this would be my last asking for suspension this evening. Sure. Is there any objections to suspension? Okay, Your Honor. The reason for suspension on this one is the fact that the Sheboygan Kennel Club will be holding their annual dog show at the Municipal Service Building the end of this month. Their contract has been worked out so that we can actually give them a contract this year. And from this point on, then they will be holding their shows the end of September rather than the end of April. So needless to say, that's why the reason was for suspension. So I then moved that the resolution be put upon its passage. Moved in second to resolution be put upon its passage under discussion. Alderman Bauman, one question, maybe you can't answer it. I see Dave, it's here in time. Have we worked out the parking situation since we moved the recycling center over there? I think Dave can answer that. Yeah, we met with representatives of the Kennel Club and we're gonna have some area on the backside that we'll be able to move some of our equipment around and provide the parking form since the drop-off site is now in the East Side building, so we've been working with them to accommodate that. Thank you, Dave. Okay, do you know their discussion? Pat, what'd you call the roll? Moody, Perez, Rindfeisch, Steffen, Van Akron, Vanderweel, Longerman, Warner, Bauman, Berg, Pune, Graf, Manny, Montemayor, 14 eyes. Motion carried. Resolution 2559, resolution by Alderman Warner, Doyle, Moody, Longerman, and Vanderweel, authorizing hiring outside legal counsel relative to the revocation of Tavern license, 2199 and 2181, Alderman Warner. I thank your honor. I make a motion. The resolution be put upon its passage. Suspension. Suspension. Oh, that one I need? I thought it was the next one. Okay, on that, first I would ask for suspension. Is there any objections to suspension? I'm surprised nobody's questioning this tonight with all the suspension, go ahead, proceed. You always have us in your counsel, you. Proceed. All right, thank you, your honor. This is a resolution that will authorize the city attorney to engage the services of special outside counsel for the common counsel and its committee on public protection and safety. In the matter of the hearing on the issue of revocation of the Tavern license of Cesar Lozano, license number 2199 and 2181, and authorizing payment for said services, goes on to say be it further resolved that the city finance director treasurer is hereby authorized and directed to draw on the city attorney's court legal judgment and settlements account number and payment for said services. And I guess I would just ask Steve if he could explain the reason behind why we have to go to outside legal counsel for situations like this. So those of you that've been on the council a while, I think are aware when we hold the license revocation or license suspension proceedings, their adversarial proceedings, our office generally prosecutes the case. And there's case law that says our office can't both prosecute the case and also advise the council who would in fact is the jury or the decision maker in the case. So what we've done in these circumstances the last few years is hired Joe Volkner from the Olsen-Cloet firm who participates and during the proceeding and advises the council in the event that any legal issues come up for the council. That avoids any due process problems in the license revocation proceedings. And there are cases that were, I know a village ran into problems there where city attorney tried to do both and they raised the due process objection and struck down the proceeding. So they had to do it over again. If I could, your honor, also this really ties into the next document. What we have typically done in the past with councils done is hold the hearings before the entire council and hold them here at the council meeting during the council meeting with the council, Alderman present as part of the regular council meeting. The statutes and our ordinances allow an alternative that a lot of municipalities utilize and that is for committee of the council to hold the hearing. And this was discussed at Public Protection and Safety Committee and they're recommending to the council that this revocation proceeding be heard by the committee in lieu of having the whole testimony in front of the whole council during the council meeting. It's thought that it'd be more efficient. It would be done, you'd have five Alderman instead of 16 going through all this. It wouldn't be on a council night so it wouldn't take up an order in an amount of time. And this particular proceeding is gonna involve potentially five police officers witnesses and I'm not sure if the defendant will have witnesses as well but it could be fairly involved. There's 11 or 13 counts in the complaint. So it could be fairly lengthy in time. So the committee is recommending that the hearing be held in the committee. Now what the statutes and the ordinance provide for is the council is still the final decision maker so the committee after the hearing prepares a report with the findings and conclusions, submits that to the council, also submits that to the complainant that's the person who has the license that is being requested to be revoked. And that individual has an opportunity to file objections with the report that's submitted by the committee to the council. But then that report gets submitted to the council and the council has an opportunity to hear any objections that there might be and then issued its determination based on the report. It's felt be more efficient process and I think the committee is recommending trying it and see how it works in relation relative to the full quasi judicial hearing before the whole council. The timing of this is such that complaint went out and complainant or the license holder was notified that the hearing would be held at the public protection and safety committee meeting next Tuesday, I believe the 14th. Wednesday. Wednesday. Wednesday the 14th. So if the council doesn't wanna go that route we can undo that but the way it's currently scheduled is that the license committee would hold a hearing next Wednesday and submit their report then to the council at the next council meeting on the 19th which would be the last council meeting to hear. So if there are any questions about the process or about anything else in that regard. Alderman Stephan has one. What adds Steve that on that hearing part is gonna be taped and that tape then is gonna be given to the county and they're gonna transcribe it. That's something they do to make sure that everything is perfect. So just a little added thing. Alderman Stephan. I guess that was part of my concern was if I can see the logic in it but knowing how the court system works once the person appeals then we're all gonna hear it again anyways and I don't know if we've saved anything. I mean do you anticipate that if the person appeals that it'll be much shorter than it would be the first time? It's not an appeal Alderman Stephan. It's just they're allowed to make an objection to any of the findings, specific findings that are in there and you can then those findings or objections can either be in written form or verbal. So if they're in written form then you could just look at them and render your decision. Even if they're verbal it'd be a lot shorter than going through the whole hearing. They would be objecting to specific portions of the findings. Okay and actually that is the next document but that also when the law and licensing committee comes online that this function would be done by them not public protective safety but in order to meet the term to have this done by the 14th that's why it's happening in our committee. So it was something we did talk about in committee and thought would be useful because those people that are on that committee are trained through the licensing clerk in the specifics of the licensing function. There are probably no little more unless the rest of the council wants to attend those licensing meetings to learn everything there is about the licensing function than the general council. That was the thought of that. But I guess first we have this one to vote on then the second one. Can you restate your motion to pass? You can do the second one too. Okay my first motion on 2559 is a motion that the resolution be put upon its passage and on 2560. No let's do one at a time it'll be cleaner in my minutes. Sure. Okay we have motion before us in seconded. Now I'll still have a discussion. Hang on Alderman Warder. Alderman Lee has a question. Thank you Your Honor. I probably should have asked this in committee. Oftentimes we call people in and they don't show up if the parties involved here don't show up then it would have to go to the new council wouldn't it? Actually I think you have a lot of leniency. I shouldn't say leniency you have a lot of authority I guess you would say and the committee would probably feel if they don't show up unless there was a proper legal appeal made for some reason they actually have held off already from appearing in our committee. So we can make a decision whether they're there or not is that what you're saying? That we would find out from the attorneys at the time but I think it's possible. Okay. Thank you. Okay. If there's no other questions or discussion. Pat would you call. Alderman Warder do you have something else you want to say? Otherwise we'll call him. He's away from the next talk. Okay next talk. Okay. Would you call the roll please? Perez. Aye. Ruinfleisch. Aye. Stefan. Aye. Vanakren. Aye. Vanderwil. Aye. Wangaman. Aye. Warner. Bowman. Aye. Berg. Aye. Bonet. Motion carried. 2560. On this your honor I would make a motion to accept and adopt the report of committee. Second. Move to second to accept and adopt the report of committee on 2560 under discussion. Under discussion your honor this will allow the hearing to be held in front of public protection safety next week. Thank you. If there's no other discussion all in favor. Aye. Opposed? Motion carried. Other matters Steve. 2561 is a communication from Dave Cooke environmental park director of Maywood requesting to hire temporary staff. That will go to Salon Germans. 2562 is an RO by the city clerk submitting a subrogation claim from Hawkeye security insurance on behalf of their insured Douglas Holti for alleged damages to his basement due to a sewer backup. That will go to special committee on risk. I see another one of our new alderman walked in Bonnie Serdas here this evening with us also. Welcome Bonnie. And if anyone looks at the business journal in the March issue, Weiskerber's plans, Weiskerber's plans, Sheboygan restaurant in March, a nice article in it. If anybody would want a copy of it, very nice. It tells all about the Harbor Center restaurant down there so. Move to second to adjourn under discussion. Hearing none all in favor. Both.