 See, look at her teeth. Look at my teeth. I had braces twice and jaw surgery. She had nothing and her teeth are Perfect. What's going on guys? I am here with the lovely young Meg and she has had varying Experiences with both vegetarian and vegan diets both herself from suffering from heart Puppetations to her family from her grandmother's dementia her mother's eating problems as well as her father's well Essentially being this made her father a hunchback. So I'm going to let her take this away and tell you guys her story Thank you Thank you for having me so When I was a kid Essentially like my my family has a lot of German background. So my Oma for those you don't know means grandma in German She Basically raised me I lived with my mom and my Oma when I was a kid I would eat a lot of eggs lots and lots of eggs always had hard-boiled eggs on hand and omelets cheesy omelets And so essentially I really had a very Whole foods whole cooked diet when I was growing up my mom always has been cooking Lots of different dishes lots of different Styles of cooking as well. We would always experiment and bake and When I was 11 that's in 2010 we decided we were going to start doing more plant-based. So essentially my parents recovering alcoholics and my mom wanted to detox And she wanted Completely cleanse her system They both cut out alcohol cold turkey. They haven't drank since and my my parents Essentially what we started doing was we would Just have like zero processed foods in the house and that helped, you know, my mom did feel good We didn't really have too many processed foods to begin with But when we cut them out, we started to feel really good And so then when I was 11 we We're watching a lot of documentaries About You know the planet and certain things a lot of the documentaries we watched were cow spiracy forks over dives There are a couple other ones regarding like monsanto and things and then also Earthlings I do think there are a lot of truths to some of them to some varying extent You know, I don't think people should support The multi trillion dollar industry, you know, that's that's a conglomerate Including the pharmaceutical and big ag right regardless of whether it's plant agriculture or animal agriculture. It's all toxic That's the point people seem to miss. Yeah Yes, if you're not buying your food from a local farm, you can't argue about the environment. That's my point Like if I'm I have some guy coming I spend way too much money per week on meat Just because I know the quality and it's local and stuff like that. So What are you gonna do? Yeah, exactly. Well, and I'm very lucky because I live in alberta, which is Cow town is the nickname because we have Just huge plot to land when you'll be driving on the road the main road and you'll see cows and horses Just grazing like um, I'm very grateful But um back then like we were just Seeing all these things and me when I was you know At the time like it was really sad and scary to see these the way the animals were being treated Of course Those images though came from the factory not looking out your window not looking out your window at the cows Not looking out my window exactly um But so that's when we were like, okay, no red meat and my mom had a lot of gut issues And partly she knew that that was from the alcohol consumption earlier in time, but she wanted to um Really detox and and fix her gut And so my mom Yeah My mom she what she um We started to do is no more beef. No more pork red meat. We cut out dairy. We stopped buying that It's funny like it's you know the logic here. She goes from drinking like how much vodka or whatever to Like now cutting out meat is the problem when she was drinking all this alcohol It's just it doesn't make much sense. But what are you gonna do? There was like a year gap between being sober and going vegan um, so it did it was like a a bit of a transition um But yeah, well my mom has always had issues eating grains So a lot of grains like bread, you know, for instance, my mom would get stomach upset So she knew that she didn't want to eat too much of that But um, because we would usually eat, you know, all these plant foods with the meat. My mom at first thought Oh, it's the meat. I should cut that out. Um And all these things saying like meat doesn't digest in your gut. It just sits there and rots, right? Like we were Listening to meat turns your blood into acid. Didn't did you hear? No, I never heard that one Oh, you didn't hear the meat is acidic thing. No, I'm surprised you have it to be honest But um After you know after we cut out like mainly red meat and stuff We would eat chicken occasionally and we would still eat like ahi tuna shrimp And salmon my mom really loved seafood and I hated it when I was a kid Mainly I was a really picky eater regarding mushrooms and like spinach and things like that and that's what I hated when I was a kid and like chewy things, you know, but um So I always thought that seafood was kind of chewy, but we kind of went I guess you could say pescatarian And then we went fully like vegetarian and we just completely didn't buy like those, you know fish or seafood And that's when my mom's stomach pains, you know, like she was being really bloated she was getting a lot of bloating and um acid reflux and my dad He worked a very taxing job as a shipper receiver for like a warehouse so he um He was getting, you know, like for for 20 years when he worked there He had zero issues. He would walk to work every single day and he started getting tired He was more tired and you know, he was only like, you know in his 30s So for him to be so tired at the time when he had been doing it for so long. It was just it was kind of like You know, he was just getting I don't know He was deteriorating like he was just he wasn't acting normal And over the course of the time that we were vegan as well He started getting a lot more joint pains and like an old man Like it really hurt me because like he would need to use both of his arms to like push himself to get off the couch Um, because his knees were in so much pain um, so severe joint pain and this was because of the This was my base or this was yeah, this was after we went vegan and it was about two years after being vegan myself um being strict vegan um I noticed that my skin was becoming really dry and so my skin was so dry from when I was like 13 all the way to um You know, basically until for the last couple months, but especially when I was vegan I looked scaly like my skin looked like I was a reptile It was so dry. No oils. No makeup could cover it. Nothing helped my skin I would try dozens of oils all of oil was like the only thing that helped me when it was on and I looked like a grease ball But the moment that the oil the yeah the moment the oil is on the Italians today. What's going on? Sorry Actually, my dad is Italian. So I have the right no, I don't believe that but um Yeah, like it just it was really bad and I started getting severe acne as well my like I would break out and You know beginning when I was in junior high and stuff. I never had acne I never had any spots that when we had been vegan for a couple months And we eventually were vegan, you know, like through the entire first year that we were vegan I started getting these serious subcutaneous pimples and I had them the entire time we were vegan I would just get them on my chin like I would get a fucking third eye It was really bad. It was really embarrassing and they would just they were so painful They were like volcanoes and when they erupted it was disgusting. It was bad My dad, you know, we we discovered like he had a Like a cyst on his back that was like the size of an edamame bean Like the cyst on his back like the doctor said like it it doesn't do anything It's just there, you know, it it has no contributions to your health or anything. So don't worry about it Like he just said that there's nothing to worry about it um and so Eventually like it was growing and it kept getting bigger and it stunk for the end of our for us Yeah, but like what I mean like he smelled like he smelled He smelled bad the cyst on his back and it was coming from the cyst It was it was really bad and my mom like she was like don't sleep with me Don't sleep with me um My family has always had really long hair and fingernails my oma always had really long nails And my nails over the course was they were becoming very brittle and dry and they were Very because they were just breaking um And my oma being somebody who's very important in my life. She actually um Right like right after we those of you that don't know oma oma is grandma in german, right? Yes, yes. Sorry. I don't know if I said that at first. It it is a grandma in german um So my oma in you know right after we went plant based she was diagnosed with early onset louis body dementia And so What happened was we got her in a home And in the home they were feeding her a lot of processed foods and there was a lot of abuse in the home as well So we wanted her to live with us and we would package we would make extra food extra vegan food And we would meal prep it and package it and freeze it and bring it to her so she could dethought and eat it and um You know, she was only in the home for Three months maybe But she while she was there we were noticing she was forgetting phrases. She was forgetting words. She was blank for a couple minutes. She would just like Lose like she would just fall out of it zone out, you know, so we wanted her to live with us So we moved to a fifth house, you know, and um my oma came with us. It was a bungalow And when we were there, um I was in grade nine at the time. I was 14 And these pimples on my skin were getting worse. I was getting a lot of redness in my skin um, and I would have just Like again, the dry skin was getting so much worse preferably around my nose But it started spreading into my cheeks And it started spreading around my chin as well and it was just getting so bad Then we there was a health food store that opened up around us. So we got jobs there I actually worked there my mom worked there and um It was an interesting environment. There are actually a lot of creepy people that worked there But when I was 14, you know, it was right before high school and I started having Um, like it felt like what at first what we thought it was was Like heartburn. Um, and so we would treat it like that. I would take tums Eventually we were you were very young heartburn at what age 13 14 like 14. Yeah Yeah So I had I had no idea what it was and my mom was reading a line and it's she saw that um Somewhere it said that drinking baking soda in water would help so I would do that and then I would drink apple cider vinegar And that would like help and then I would drink apple cider vinegar with baking soda in it And that would like help for a little bit, but it never really it never went away. And it was very like just when I breathed in And then when I was when I stopped breathing to exhale, I just get this sharp pain And it just it was like right under my left breast like it was just really bad um, like I was getting stabbed and It was very mild at first and it it would happen sporadically throughout the week for about uh Like a month or two And it would just happen randomly and I started having like heart palpitations where I would like it would race I would just I just feel my heart beating really fast and You know that would happen also just kind of occasionally these the pains the sharp pains eventually Kept getting so much worse. I was at a friend's house one night and then I ended up going to the hospital because um, I I just couldn't breathe. I actually stopped breathing because it was so painful my uh Eventually I got transferred to a cardiologist because I couldn't figure out what was wrong with me They had no idea And when I went to the cardiologist, I was tested I was doing a bunch of tests and then I was wearing like a heart monitor And I had all these patches on that I had to wear for a week And then I got in um, I also had uh Oh shoot, what is it called again? They do it for, you know, pregnant bellies I had that done on my heart. It's hard scan. Yeah. Yes. Yeah Heart maybe my o-cardogram. I can't remember the name of it. I don't know Something familiar, but yeah, I'm curious. Did they ask you about your diet or anything? No No, this is you know, you would so People who have heart palpitations related to dietary issues, whether it's vitamin deficiencies histamine intolerances From the medical perspective, it seems incredibly difficult to figure out what the point the the underlying issue is Because you could have something like small intestinal bacteria overgrowth or candida And that would only be diagnosed by like a naturopath You could have something in your case but like a b12 deficiency and if you go to a cardiologist and they see Oh girl is 14 heart problems. They think you took some drugs, you know It's it's hard for them to know They're not going to think oh this girl's vegan and has a vitamin b12 deficiency because how many vegans does this doctor have And how many, you know, it's it seems like a very rare scenario and I mean, it's hard to pinpoint whether or not Um, it was a b12 deficiency, but you said that once you started eating, you know, you were vegan for about a year Strictly, that's when this problem got worse and worse and worse But then when you started eating these animal foods again at your friend's house it almost went away instantly Yeah, actually so um And then there was this one night when I was going to go rafting with my friend in in a couple of days And I was sleeping over because she lived right across from me and I was having these sharp pains again And I was I was hanging over for dinner. It wasn't as bad as the time that I got went that I went to the hospital um But again, like it just felt like like a knife just like stabbing into me and it I couldn't breathe but Her family made lasagna for dinner and they weren't vegans. So there was beef in it and um Like I ate some lasagna and like I felt I felt really good and I wasn't having the pains Like it was very just subtle and I was still having the heart palpitations But when I was breathing that stabbing feeling like wasn't happening so um and So eventually like I slept over that night and I would come over again And and I would just I just wasn't sticking to the vegan diet So I had been vegan from when I was 12 to when I was 14 And so when I was 14, that's when I stopped Taking veganism very seriously. I was still vegan at home Because my mom was strict vegan. My dad was strict vegan But when I was um, you know going out to friends houses, I would eat what they were eating And let's just be clear. You were following, you know, your mother was doing a lot of home cooking. This was not some BS vegan diet But I think a lot of things that the veganism the vegans are going to point out here is oh She wasn't supplementing b12 But you could argue up and down you didn't do a vegan diet, right? But if a vegan diet is so hard to do And you need a laboratory to do it correctly. I think there's an issue inherent with the diet and It's just to me For them to try to adjust they will always try to justify whatever the issue is But did you just want to go over that, you know, you were kind of consuming a whole foods plant-based diet to some degree Yes, my mom was cooking Really good food like my mom always cooked and we would cook um like Brazilian dishes my mom actually went to san paolo. We would cook beans and rice. We would have lentils We would have all sorts of different legumes. We would eat mung beans, which were supposedly really high in protein Um, and we also had vitamins. We would take Tons of vitamins. I would take 13 vitamins a day So I had this little One of it was a multivitamin specifically for women Probably so you probably actually so scratch what I said earlier. You might have actually been getting some b12 supplement Maybe it just wasn't high enough. Who knows and and the problem with supplements is These vegans might have higher blood levels of b12, but that's not indicative of tissue levels And you can't exactly take a liver biopsy of a person. That's a lie Yeah fair enough. Well, and I I would take all my vitamins in one gulp. So, um, like You know, I would take them every single day diligently We would um take omega 3s. They were a vegan omega 3 though, but um Yeah, so we would we were doing that and my oma she was declining much worse and my mom her gut issues They were so they were getting more severe. She was having serious pains. Um, like she was Just on her side laying on the couch for hours. She couldn't move because she was in so much pain Physically her stomach would cramp Um, and she was like just having so much acid reflux My oma was getting um much worse So what we started doing was we would research more about Foods that she needed and we knew that, you know, like the brain tissue specifically needs fat So we were giving her everything and it came to a point where we were still vegan But my mom started buying Animal product foods for my oma. Well, it was really hard to find a yogurt that had high fat content Like so many would be like seven grams of fat I'm not kidding for like two for like two thirds of a cup and like 21 carbohydrates You know, like it's and that was sugar, right? That was just not to start to interrupt you But if you go into any supermarket in America I have literally been in supermarkets and you can't find any fatty yogurt. It's all zero grams of fat 20 grams of sugar. It doesn't exist It's bad So we found this one that came from, you know, the city wasn't organic, but um Or my my province, sorry It wasn't organic, but it had 18 grams of fat per two and two thirds of a cup Which was the most that any of the Indian Indian specialty stores and other cultures would probably have it, but Unfortunately, the the standardized stuff. They usually They usually don't yeah, they cut it out. It's bad Um, but we would just buy the fattiest foods that we could for my oma and they were animal fats Really and we started making because eventually she was bed bound and we needed to feed her and then eventually she Couldn't chew so we had to make her shakes and the doctors tried to give her n shore And so my mom was like this shit is disgusting, you know, like gerber is disgusting And it's basically the same thing. The first ingredient is sugar my oma developed thrush Which she already had a lot of problems Um not to mention bed source because she was bed bound and then changing her diaper and things like that It was a really stressful thing for my mom So I know that the stress of that also contributed to my health and my depression as well but For you know for a while what we were doing was we were giving her soft foods And these shakes and my mom would put in three different kinds of whey protein a bunch of different kinds of other supplements and milk whole milk which now Only about whole jersey milk from an organic farmer Um where I live which is it's I love the cream the fat. I never knew that existed because when I would buy skin milk It's insane. It's so it's so delicious. It's amazing. Like I fucking love it on toast You know, and I usually like I like making homemade bread like my mom would too the ingredients It's literally yeast flour and water like it's insane. But um anyways Uh Which you know because when I would drink skin milk when I was a kid I had no idea like when I first bought whole milk I was like mom. What is this stuff on the top and my mom was like no, that's just the cream like That's natural supposed to be there but um Then you know, my oma started to stabilize And she actually we still needed to take her to the hospital several times We would call the ambulance and just just always she would get transferred to the hospital um one night we were at the hospital from Uh We got there at 7 p.m And we weren't able to leave until 4 a.m Because we had to wait for an entire transfer process to find a room and everything like that. It was just ridiculous But since my mom and I were so tired and it was 4 a.m. We had been up Since 7 a.m. The morning before we um We just we were craving something that so we got mac and cheese And I was you know, um 15 at the time And it was around that time when I started cheating more You know, even when we would go out like we never really ate out But through the time that we were vegan when I would we would maybe go out and eat to like a restaurant like Once every two years Very rarely and when we did, you know, my mom would say like Oh, you know, you you guys can get whatever you want. So we would get like an alfredo pasta or something My mom was fine with that my my mom herself though. She was very strict But we we you know, we were missing nostalgic foods that my oma used to cook And we had been in the hospital all night So we started to eat some of these foods and we felt really good We felt really satisfied And so, you know, my mom was starting to really question this vegan diet Um, living like, you know Having all sorts of home care come in to take care of my oma as well. That really helped My my mom started doing my mom started experimenting with other diets And so she would always cook My sisters and I food every single night for dinner But she herself decided that she was going to try some raw food Like she was going to go raw for a little bit that didn't last very long because she was getting More severe stomach pains because she was having them for so long And you just give a time span of your mother's experience with Veganism and the problems she ran into Yeah, so, um for the, um Back in 2011 to, uh 2014 Or sorry 15 My mom was vegan and you know about two years after being vegan Like my mom was having more severe stomach pains Which she had already had bad stomach pains throughout the entire thing Her bloating was getting much worse about halfway through being vegan My mom was throwing everything up and she didn't want to like the thing was my mom was craving food She wanted to eat we she would see my sisters and I my dad eating and she was jealous She would try and eat and she would keep it down for about 10 minutes and then go to the toilet and throw up Now let me interject here for any of you vegans saying eating this order eating this order eating this order This woman was physically incapable of consuming these foods It's like if you drank battery acid and your body wanted to vomit it up. That's essentially what's happening She's drinking some uh eating something drinking something. It gets her sick food poisoning Just like food poisoning essentially she's vomiting the food up unintentionally She's not purging at the toilet she she's trying to eat these vegan foods and her body's rejecting them And she's throwing them up. That's essentially what's happening, right? Yes, she would throw up after every single meal and it was very bad and she was very sick She was always bloated and these pains in her stomach work So severe and you know, it would be good in the morning She would wake up in the morning with an empty stomach and she would feel okay It was the moment she started to eat food It was all vegan because she was very strict and she threw it up every single meal and she was very stressed She was already stressed with my oma But you know the eating problem like it was it was involuntary like she she tried We would experiment with all sorts of different foods So essentially what my mom did was she went on a juice cleanse for 60 days 90 days, maybe I don't remember who's 90 or 60 days, but she went on a juice cleanse Pure juice nothing else and she felt really good. She started to lose a little bit of weight at the time She also started to get more into Like running and yoga and things like that But she She stuck with this juice cleanse and then after she was over she decided she was going to try Introducing these foods again and she was immediately sick immediately sick and throwing up and So essentially You know what would happen was and her stool was really bad That was another thing that she really had trouble with but you mentioned your mother had trouble with These foods even when eating meat though Yeah, she did she knew that she had a trouble she she knew before we went vegan that eating grains like bread That she had a problem with and that she couldn't consume too much of it um And then so what happened was after she did a salt water cleanse for like a month or something like that um she Eventually decided to do like a process of elimination diet And so now, you know after doing that the moment she ate potatoes She felt immediately sick. She cannot eat beans any kind of bean any kind of legume. She will throw it up um grains corn soy She cannot eat any of these foods and it's actually she got tested. These are allergies for her Nightshade legume. They never were before But they're allergies now and when she went to the doctor about a year ago Or maybe sorry closer to six months the doctor said that um, you know Because of eating too many like she had changed her diet. We weren't vegan. I'll backtrack a little bit um In when I was in grade 11 Uh, we decided that we were going to have Thanksgiving dinner with turkey It was the like one of the last years and my mama was still really able to eat with us We still had to make everything very soft for her, but um, she would uh Eat you know, we wanted we wanted to have turkey dinner like we used to would like she used to cook And we felt better and one thing we were afraid of was that tail that once you go vegan When you try and eat meat, you'll feel sick complete bullshit. It was bullshit It was bullshit Um, but so we started, you know, like we ate this turkey and we all loved it. Like we were like It was amazing. So my mom was like, hey, we're not going to be vegan anymore. You know, this is not working for me We were still very plant-based though. We were still we still believed That plants are good. So it's so ingrained in culture. It's it's unbelievable You could see all this evidence like Someone could shoot like someone could shoot Your baby in front of you. But like if you said, oh, they're a doctor. That's okay. That's it's crazy what people believe Uh, but just to touch on what happens in vegans and this is something we see over and over and over again is They start consuming high amounts of these plant foods that have high levels of anti nutrients and every single thing that your mother mentioned potatoes legumes Grains there's various anti nutrients from phytase to lectins to oxalase that can cause inflammation in the gut And in the context of a diet where you're actually consuming high amounts of meat or animal foods It's not as much of an issue one because you're not consuming as much of them and two because there's nutrients in the meat That you're getting that are absent that that are crucial for various metabolic functions So the combination of increasing these inflammatory things and reduction of anti inflammatory animal foods as much as people don't believe that It's up. That's why there's an explanation for and it's happens over and over and over again These vegans going they go on a vegan diet They become intolerant to every single food and they try to do all these cleanses and go raw It's like clockwork. I got I probably have to do a whole video explaining the mechanisms of how veganism fails people I mean, it's uh, I should really do that. Let me write that down. But uh, I'll let you go continue. You were saying, uh So you touched on your mother's health problems. You you touched on how You guys started eating meat again, but did we touch we touched on the father, too Uh, we I think we talked about the cyst I was just going to get to that Um, all right. I'm sorry. We could we could edit this out. Did we did we talk about that yet? Or was that in the other conversation? We did how it smelled. We did touch on that in this one, right a little bit a little bit Yeah, but you did say that his cyst smelled right and they I'll get yeah I'll get I'll get into that again though. Like I'll touch on that a little bit Oh, wait, what was the context of you saying that you like your mother didn't that was definitely in this conversation, right? Yes Yeah, my mother would say like don't sleep with me Uh, okay, so what was next? What did you want to go? So, um, my dad's like the cyst on his back throughout the time that we were vegan It started to get bigger and it went from the size of like an edamame bean to a dove so far It was big and like I didn't want to touch it. Um, it looked bad It kept getting worse the veins around it started getting worse. It was red Um, like the whole area was red and the cyst like it wasn't causing him any pain and I was like don't sleep on your back like what if it pops or anything but Like I didn't know how it worked But eventually the end of us being vegan for the last, um half a year that we were vegan It started to smell and it started to smell really bad. It started to like like Like moldy moldy cheese and feet like it was just it was bad smell very bad smell and um Then like what would happen was my dad's joint pain was getting a lot worse as well Um, and so he was having so much trouble. He actually got a different job Um as well that was less labor intensive So he's he's a manager still but like it just requires less moving and less lifting And um So essentially like my parents when we worked at this health food store as well We were getting a lot of information from them and there are a lot of hippies that worked there and pardon my language for anybody who Doesn't like the term hippie But these people I can't believe how hateful they were, you know when I was a vegan the entire time I was vegan from when I was You know, 11 years old being vegetarian, but 12 was when I started being vegan and from then until you know When I was done with it Um, I was never hateful to people who ate meat like I wasn't you know, I just thought okay Well, they're just they just don't know, you know, they just they just need to be educated But they can they can do that on their own time like I'm not going to preach at them Huh, like the number of people who worked there that were just Very rude to you if you weren't vegan And we're very hateful. It was a very Aggressive group, you know, and when we started buying animal foods for my Oma We got so much hate from these people that when we first started working there were super friendly to us and they were just like, you know They would talk behind my mom's back when I was working with like to me and I'd be like excuse me, you know, um This is my family Don't know but um and there were like, you know, this is a little bit off topic But a lot of the people that worked there that were vegan stole a lot They stole a lot. So we we don't what we can talk about here is like perception and how these people these hippy vegans are perceiving On the outside you think oh, they're trying to do things for the environment. They're friendly people They're all for good, but if you actually knew their intentions and how they act to other people It's completely disgusting. It's it's covered up a lot. It's like Uh, it's like some I don't know what a good analogy for this is perhaps A religious leader like, you know those people that preach the bible and get you to donate half your bank account to the church It seems like that. It's like on the outside. Oh, it's this holy evangelical person But reality what he's doing is dirt bag shit and that's what these vegans are doing too People just don't perceive it as that initially Uh, and then until it you know blows up in their face This guy who worked there too. I had a really bad experience. Oops. Sorry. I hit my mic I had a really bad experience because This guy who worked there was 11 years older than me I was 15 at the time and he was like major into me And it was a very big problem and like the thing was I was young and naive And there was this it was a big community of people who who worked there They would all hang out So I wanted to hang out with all of them not just him specifically But all of them and I wanted to learn about The supplements that we would sell because like, you know, chlorella spirulina Chaga all the different mushrooms plus, you know, like bee pollen and things like that Which I know bee pollen is not vegan, but a lot of them would eat it But I wanted to learn about that kind of stuff. Hey, it doesn't have eyes and a heart. So why not eat it, right? Just like they don't care about insects. They don't get half a shit about insects All the bees that are struggling too because of big ag That's the thing like a vegan doesn't understand that in their bowl of cereal There's probably about 10 10 fly parts in it. So I don't want to get into that There's so much so much contradictory stuff coloring to coloring insects for color Natural and just you're living in a house. How many how many how much How many animal products went into the drywall into all these products that are built in your house that are needed, you know Is everything and and what's what's the just and this sounds silly But what about people that do services for you? What about if those people eat meat? Are they not allowed to serve as you like like what's going on the the environmental the moral thing gets really foggy, but It can be yeah debated So overall, uh, you know, you had you know, the notable thing for you was the heart Your new heart was like felt like it was going to explode when you were younger for your mother very severe Obviously food allergies and tolerances could not be vegan father the cystic Pimple on his back or whatever it was got worse. I'm sure they extracted some tofu out of it when they were done with it And then of course your grandmother's dementia We didn't really emphasize it too much But when you started feeding her the animal foods it got essentially so what people need yeah What I didn't talk about was when someone is older their body is no longer really creating new cells It's kind of just degenerating so you can't really it's hard to heal or reverse symptoms in older people What you could do is you could slow the symptoms, but you can't necessarily Reverse and that is an impossible feat at that age at least and then we had the uh issues I'm just trying to think of what other points we had um, oh, but your father also Was no longer able to physically do his job and had all these physical problems and physical ailments to Joint pains. It's it's really amazing how It's crazy. You know veganism essentially ruined every aspect of your life and your family's life to not ruined it But greatly diminished the quality of life and it's it was just Oh, whatever, you know, it's it's absolutely It's so unfortunate that I mean, but that's can be said about conventional wisdom that could be said about Standard american diets like at the end of the day. What are you going to do? It's it's Yeah, my mom actually also started to um, nearly develop ulcers like the doctors were like you're you're going to start developing ulcers The symptoms are there. You need to do something So what she did was she started drinking bone broth. We would make our own bone broth and because we're so close to um farmers in our province, um, we were able to buy really good sourced meats really really well sourced um Chicken and we would use the feet the chicken feet and everything like that And since then my mom was getting a lot better. She started to heal um And you know, then my mom was having still some pains and she would still throw up occasionally and she couldn't pinpoint What it was and it was when she was eating fruit fruit and Like it would be like she would eat a hard boiled egg for breakfast with like a couple other things and then she would have Um, you know, maybe some like berries after and then she would throw it up She would get really sick and I said, you know, because I started getting into more of it Like more youtubers and things like that like yourself and a couple other um doctors and stuff And I was saying well, maybe it's the con combination of eating those foods So my mom stopped and now you know eating You know hard boiled eggs for breakfast and keeping it very close to a paleo diet But not completely like she doesn't follow any specific diet. She just eats what she wants now But it's mainly meat and she's been feeling better. Her hair is growing back. That was another thing She started to lose hair. She would get clumps of hair. My nails were so brittle But now like I'm keeping my nails very very long Yeah, so let's touch on this you're a carnivore girl now So you've noticed your skin has been improving You've noticed your nails are growing better. You've noticed your your energy level is good Yeah, I feel incredible like I've always loved yoga And stretching and flexibility And my boyfriend's always been pushing me to gain weight and do more about more body building kind of things um But a big problem and part of it was depression Um because of losing myoma especially in the way that she did the the ambiguous grief was really hard on all of us but um For the last six months I've been just eating basically bacon every single morning for breakfast The last three months. I've had bacon every single morning straight with eggs every day My skin is not dry at all these the reptilian skin is completely gone My nails are not brittle at all my hair has always grown really fast But it's maintaining moisture. It's not as dry and frizzy um And like my spots I couldn't believe it like I've been using and that's another thing for about two weeks now I've been putting bacon grease on my face Which I know sounds disgusting, but it feels amazing and my blackheads the one thing I would have never thought my blackheads are gone And the pimples that I have now are just scabs that are healing from previous pimples beforehand But otherwise I haven't developed anything my skin is clearing up And it is soft And it's just I'm I'm very happy with it. There's definitely something to be said about removing inflammation in the diet um one other other interesting thing I wanted to touch on was Your sister is older than you and She actually Is a bit taller than you also Yes So you are you said you were five feet tall and your sister was five foot five and Yeah, you guys could call me crazy. Whatever you want, but um, I'm going to make some assumptions here. So, uh Obviously Some guys get like or like Frank you have this beautiful young girl on your podcast and you're talking about her facial structure Are you gay? That's is what they usually say. So there's some silly stuff But what I was going to say was obviously, you know, you what I noticed is you have very symmetrical well-developed lips you know very pretty face so Obviously, you know, we can assume that the eggs the butter you were eating when you were younger might have contributed to the proper facial development, but You're relatively short. You know, I mean you're five feet tall. So Your sister though who was not plant-based Yeah, she never was vegan was significantly taller than you. We mean five six inches taller. So Uh, I just wanted to throw this out there. I don't want to touch on it too much I do sincerely believe that The role of animal protein in the diet and fat soluble vitamins plays an incredible role in height But uh, we can't complain. We're both short and pretty, right? Who cares? Rather be short and pretty than some tall older looking person, right? Well, I always when I was a kid, okay I have memories back to when I was 18 months And I went to see the lord of the rings when I was two in theaters It's my favorite movie ever since. Um, but the elves I loved the elves and I always wanted to be an elf And then like when I was a kid tinkerbell was like my spirit animal Like everybody would call me tinkerbell because I'm very very small and people say my cat's big But I'm like, no, I'm just five feet five feet tall and 90 pounds. Like I'm I'm a small person. My cat is normal It's just me But thank you. Yeah, I do contribute a lot of my health to um Eating a lot of whole foods when I was a kid, you know, we would eat um So many eggs just every single day. I had an egg. I had more than one egg every single day And all home cooking as well with the exception of a couple processed foods, which was a treat You know, it's like maybe once a month when I would go out and get wendy's It was never it was never food. We ate it was a treat and I knew yeah You've never had braces, right? I've never had braces. Do you mind smiling for the? See look at her teeth Look at my teeth. I had braces twice and jaw surgery She had nothing and her teeth are perfect 100% perfect. Thank you. See so you guys like I mean this parallel is weird to make but something very basic like how your face develops Is specifically determined by The nutrition you receive through these developmental stages and you've you're not wearing contacts, right? No, I'm I had I had lasik eye surgery. So here we have an example of you know, you had these nutrients when you were younger And then interestingly enough You didn't have them Through the stages where people typically finish their growth plates, you know the skeletal structure So I think this I think honestly like you guys can say oh Frank you're crazy This is all anecdotal stuff to me. This is black and white spelled out very clearly, you know She had nutrition during developmental stages and the developmental stages of her life that require nutrition That determines certain aspects such as her facial development her lips her teeth her eyes She had nutrition during those periods. So those are developed. But then You know 11 12 13 14 15 6 7 18 no nutrition no height But all right, that's enough speculation for me 10 20 years from now You guys can say Frank was right But you guys can give me all the shit you want right now But this is my and for those of you guys who are wondering where I got this from What's the price western prices book nutrition physical degeneration? Great source. Um, make do you want to touch on anything in regards to that or Um, I kind of put you off there. No, no, no, I won't interrupt you you were going on You can finish what you were saying. I can go on and on for about 21 And so um, did you want to touch on anything else in regards to did you have a message to get out there? In general like any advice you would give to people Just like about things that you found that helped you Yeah, I would say you know a big thing like my mom when I was a kid too some things that she told me like Which is is kind of crazy To think about now when I watched your videos because I've never liked seafood But I've been craving seafood ish recently Um, but like my mom would always say as a woman, especially You know with whether you're on your period or whether you're pregnant if you're craving food You need to listen to your body and that's something that I always believed when I was a kid And you know like that's why when I would rarely cheat with my mom my mom would justify it for me You know, she wouldn't she she would suffer herself But she would let her kids eat some things because she didn't want us to suffer but You know when I'm like now like I really do believe you know the difference between a craving Because and and just like you know having emotional pain and wanting to eat a piece of chocolate cake You know right like there's a difference because when you're craving something say like bacon You can think of eggs. You can think of beef. You can think of some other whole food Like avocado with egg on toast or whatever and want it So that means there's something in that food that you want And you can eat all sorts of different foods that also have that nutrient. You can that's yeah I'm glad you brought that up still crave it. You know like if you you're craving like chocolate, right? And but say like you think of a cupcake and you're like, I don't want to eat that though I'm not craving a cupcake. I want chocolate. You know, okay. It's an actual craving. Your body is telling you There's something from that I want and to deny your body You know is a very it's a very stressful thing and it doesn't cause you good You know like every time we've been craving foods and we indulged in it. We felt good after and like to deny ourselves just because like You know, like I guess another thing too would be so I understand the the ethical standpoint, right of the planet and the animals Um, but I think that a really huge problem that's not paid attention to is the Multi-trillion dollar industry that's being supported still You know, and like the thing is in my grocery store. I can like the conventional grocery store Um, the only milk the only milk brand they sell is dairy land And they sell an organic dairy land milk. It's like no, you're you don't buy that shit Who are you supporting? Are you supporting a farmer? You know somebody with a family. I'm very grateful. I buy my meat from a family a literal family I've met them and they have a ranch and they take care of the animals and they live in harmony with the land And they have shepherd dogs and they go very gracefully very gently Helping move the animals around to help the cattle circulate so they don't kill the like the grass they're eating But the thing is the family themselves, they have children and they're buying their own food They're supporting themselves with my contribution to helping them You know and like if you're supporting a farmer Who's living in india who's not allowed to eat his own land his own food You know, he's not allowed to eat his own crops He's in debt Thousands to like mon satan or bear, you know, like the thing is these are industries. I like that one Yes, I only call it mon satan um But they're making Billions and they're you know, they're in conjunction with the pharmaceutical industry You know, they're in with the health care system and they're not taught about nutrition No doctor talks about it. Your health is in your hands And it's so difficult for these farmers these local farmers to make a living that unfortunately They try to rip people off in a lot of cases. I didn't want to touch on this, you know As much as it's nice to talk about you're supporting local farms blah blah blah It's expensive and the reason it's expensive is because people don't support it And I get this guy, you know, this muslim guy that sells me meat. He tries to rip me off every chance He gets I got to literally weigh the meat myself and add it up and say you send me this Shit, I will take pictures of it and I weigh it and I pay him what I should be paying him These people try to take advantage of the prices and sell it because they're having a hard time making a living themselves If I could if you could sell, you know, if you could sell as much cattle as you needed to Some some of these farmers have a hard time just selling their products Others just want to take advantage of you. So as much as supporting local agriculture is nice I think an unfortunate amount of people have run into these scenarios where it is overpriced It is a rip off But what you have to essentially do is, you know, go out go to these local sources find something That's reasonably priced and try to make the best of it and even if you aren't buying food That's reasonably priced at least try to support the higher quality food So instead of supporting that grain fed steak, even if you are supporting Even if you are supporting some Australian Government thing like at least you could buy the Australian grass-fed beef at least put your money into a product That is higher quality that you like. It doesn't necessarily have to be from your neighbor's backyard. Yes, exactly Yeah, for sure Which is ironic I always thought it was ironic that, you know, the food that takes the least amount of work The least amount of product to produce is the most expensive Because the food that is the most processed which in, you know, like rationally would cost the most to produce Is the cheapest and how many plants are wasted. That's another thing working in a rest working in the grocer Half of the produce I did a video on um What was the video? I think all my video where I debunked vegan 2018 the documentary The main point I had in regards to the environment was the food waste because literally A quarter of like all food across the board gets thrown out and it's even higher percentages for certain foods Like I think fish might be a lower percent. I think like certain grains might be higher But it's definitely unfortunate the amount of food that goes to waste And if you want to compare the amount of food that goes to waste by the amount of food that can be saved by going vegan It's it's not comparable Um Yeah So make you brought up. I mean you brought up a lot of great points. You've got a lot of experiences I think this is overall An amazing interview from the perspective of you know, we covered No, I I feel like this is great We covered aspects the negatives of a vegan diet that have affected your family all in different negative ways Every one of you had specific health problems that It's amazing to see it how it affects different people And then we had a lot of things that were brought up along the way From the height of your sister to your facial development to relaying that to nutrition during developmental stages We talked about, you know, the agriculture local farms Uh, and I think we really covered our bases in regards to convincing people to at least open their mind up to another perspective This is a video where you know, we're not bashing the vegan diet. We're not Uh promoting the carnivore diet. We're just talking really about some anecdotal experiences that can be correlated directly to animal foods and plant foods I would say one last thing too is one size does not fit all Okay, like first of all, I can't eat the diet my boyfriend eats Because like in amounts worth because he's a bodybuilder. He's 511. I'm five feet tall You know, I don't I don't need that many calories. I can't I can't have that much in my gut So the same, you know, everything like that that he's trying to build mass is not going to be the same for me But also in relation to genetics I'm I come from like I'm over 50 percent german, you know in my genetics and you know My whole diet growing up very heavily german influenced butter tons of butter eggs Sausage, I never really liked this, but my older sister really liked leber post which is liver on toast um But things like that and then you know also Where you cut like where you come from where you air from The different foods that they ate there's I've never heard of a culture that was completely vegan But I have heard of cultures that were you know, mostly vegetarian. They would eat insects, right? Like that's where chocolate covered ants come from crickets are delicious. By the way, I love chocolate covered crickets I know that's weird, but I think they're delicious. They're good for you too, but um It's only been like a year since I've been eating crickets. They're they're good though, but there's definitely some eat Yeah, there's definitely something to be said about Ancestry and how that ties into how well you can tolerate ratios of fats in the diet, especially animal fats Yeah, if you came from like brazil or something or as close to the equator and you are able to eat more vegetarian I think that's doable for some people. I think you know having some animal foods is still important because Life eats life, you know, like look at there are carnivorous plants You know the venus flytrap and there are trees as well. There are different sorts of things Plants not even just that if you need the decaying animals, you know, the animals die and they feed the soil They need life needs to consume life That's why there's E. Coli and all the romaine lettuce There's also E. Coli and some vaccines I I don't I am well technically speaking we want to get into bacteria. There's E. Coli on everything right now So, uh, at least some strain of it. So, uh, meg, this was great. We're coming up on an hour now. So I think I think we'll wrap this up. So Normally, I would do some cute see goodbye guys. I would do some wacky stuff But um, let's just say, uh, where can they find you? Did you want them to see you on instagram or anything? Yeah, sure. Um, if you want some people creeping on you on instagram, we could do that I actually one of the things finding certain like carnivore channels I really liked your channel because I can I have a lot of similar goals. I would say um But my instagram is meg dot eru dot art. So Me g period eru period arty I will be having a youtube soon, but She does a body guy. She does body painting stuff. Check it out. I I want my career to be focused around art So I do do commissions. I don't have a website yet, but I do do commission pieces Um, but slowly I want to make My living off of Acting painting singing drawing things like that. That's what I really am good at So on that note Meg can you say Something special for all of our german subscribers in german for them Uh Uh, I'll butcher it. Um, what do you mean? You're saying jagert and lever wears like it's nobody's business. So, uh, Oh, oh, you know, uh, what's the word a nutritional database now. We're trekkner. I'm butchering it Can you say it? Uh, I don't know. I'm I'm not the best Oh, you said you all right, so I'm not fluent in german. I do speak a little bit I speak a little bit in german. I'm not fluent But I will say um, I love you to everybody. I love you. I guess that sounds good to me That sounds good to me But thank you guys so much for watching. Um, if you guys like to support the channel, please subscribe and share the video There's a bunch of resources on this channel from other x vegan interviews to like vegan versus carnivore nutrient videos You guys can check out if you want to know the science of this We also did reference a few things weston prices book in this video But if you guys are looking for more in-depth information, just feel free to leave a comment below and I can point you in the right direction But you guys enjoy the rest of your week. All right. Thank you