 So my name is Jan Sokva, I'm in charge of media at the World Economic Forum and we have with us today Nicole Newham, who's the producer of Cocoa Films, the US producer for for this film We have Tashka Yavan Nava who's the chief of the Brazilian Amazon rainforest and tribe and we have Hushanu, who's the first Shaman of A tribe in in the Amazon and she's the main character actually was telling the story of this film So maybe we start with how this film came together and how the idea Came to life and Nicole can you tell us a little bit and how how this all happened? so two years ago In Davos The artist Lynette Woolworth directed a film that I produced another VR film called collisions And that film tells the story of an indigenous man in Western Australia who witnessed a British atomic test in the 1950s when he was pre-contact and we had the privilege to To premiere it at Davos and then take it around the world and when we were showing it in Oxford We had the opportunity to see Tashka whom we'd met in Oxford a couple of years prior and we And we really wanted to show him collisions and show him virtual reality and Tashka was interested in virtual reality having used film as a medium to to tell stories about the Yavan Nava and share The Yavan Nava culture and spirituality with the world in the past In fact, it was it's an embarrassing story for me The first time I met Tashka it was with a group of Sundance filmmakers and and we were asked to introduce ourselves to him And we all went around the table and and spoke very slowly and told him how honored we were to meet him And when he started to speak he said yeah Well, it's really cool to meet you guys the first time I made a film It was with Joaquin Phoenix when he came back to the community and and I suddenly had this feeling of how How much we make assumptions about how separate we are from Indigenous people when really we're all so close so anyway We had the opportunity to show collisions to Tashka and maybe you can just talk about what what you saw and why Why this project sparked I? Can do a Yavan Nava Portuguese Spanish or English what which one you prefer if you if you could do it in English I think that that would be helpful if you don't mind Portuguese otherwise Yeah Well, my name is Tashka Yavanawa. I'm in the Yavanawa chief leader The Yavanawa people live in the Yavanawa territory. It's located the state of the Acre in Brazil Amazon rainforest We are about 1,250 people We live in land about 200,000 hectares and Yavanawa land is almost 99% preserved Yeah continuous Nicole I say when I met Actually, I met She started talking about this technology. I Didn't I really do not understand On the first I think I meant to have the first time in school World Forum was in 2011 and she had this idea about VR about the technology and I said okay, okay. Good great idea and I back to the community. I say, you know I have this amazing woman so I inspired to tell me Think I didn't know what really is that I'm going back to met her again See what's happened and later on in 2014 yeah, we met again in school at forum and She was so happy to show me the documentary she did with the Aboriginal people from Australia I mean I saw the document documentary Touch me so much because was beyond Of what we used to see in documentary Myself my wife and a friend we produced a documentary of the 51 minute in 2006 They show about the Yavanawa people how Yavanawa reborn from 21st century the Kuchira spiritual manifestation the whole thing I Call linear but when I saw the VR was beyond of that I was feeling I said wow this looks like when we You know community when you drink only only is a medicine. I think some of you know about ayahuasca. Who's know about ayahuasca? Great for people who have who have a drink ayahuasca nobody I'm so sad Okay, ayahuasca is a mix of two plant one leaves one wine and You cook about two three hours. You have a tea This tea indigenous people from the old Amazon base call The tea of the spirits People for the only score wine of the soul When you drink ayahuasca You open you Continuous for What The real life is No fake no mask and you real can listen to nature the nature tops you because everything to connect. It's very profound Well, when I saw the sunglass with the original people as well. I Turned to the net is in it. I Have a lot of vision with only ayahuasca And you're thinking we can do something to say Tashka Today we can use technology for anything we want it. I say great. I'm into that now And later on I've actually the community I say guys I saw The documentary house I bring it the sunglass here Let's make a session to see the And I put in the guys and it was so funny They were so scared like a screaming Some them to slay down the floor Amazing session we have with that and they turn to me say you think we can do I said it interesting Because the same thing I talked on the call people come to me say you think we can Send a message to this sunglass To like as a you ask a vision I say wow, that's what she promised me We can do as people say wow, we are into that That was amazing Working together in collaboration because was not something to impose it but Something discussion to community first and people say wow, let's Embrace this vision here as a tools To touch people's heart Many people don't have Opportunity to come to visit us They don't have idea about the nature About the biodiversity about this whole Beautiful important thing we have here people not gonna respect what they didn't know and And What I'm saying that because I think every person After see Who somebody so Documentary, okay, I think after you sold of another changing you perspective About indigenous spirituality About the cosmology about the nature because the the message is right there When I saw for the first time Los Angeles before we go to send us this touched me so hard I Spend a whole night dreaming with that how the team make so Great so a karate way Like when you put a sunglass look like you have a drink of only This open doors for you. You give your heart cold Happy scare when you finish if you touch it by your heart and That's something Really change Change because first We all We have a heart. We have a soul No matter I have this friend He's for express info that for countries that have anymore somewhere. I met him send us What's the name of this guy? Yeah, he wasn't fighting with me. Yes Yeah, he's yeah, he says something say Everybody in this world have indigenous blood Who don't have? Maybe they have alien indigenous blood Well, they come from somewhere something like that everybody have and Other day I was flying by helicopter over the Yawanawa land. I see this big green carpet. I Say wow, I think in the Bible when they say about the paradise Why just a metaphor the real paradise the garden is here Because it's so beautiful when you see that with love and respect I think it's other peoples was in helicopter see that They see all the kind of thing, but I see a lot of these things It's because we all as I say today we all live in a global village In global community We live in the same planet. I Think however now it's send a message to the people each one of us Can do something because we all make a difference Tashka me Because I think also what is important is to understand a little bit the story of course It's it's very important to understand how this technology enabled to tell the story but what is the story and without Explaining the whole the whole story. I think what what is also unique is that's a story about Transmission and transmission and also from a shaman to a shaman but for the first time to to a female shaman And I think that's why I'm having Hushanu here is also Very Important and Translation this machine doesn't work Otherwise Tashka maybe you can just ask her to ask her the question Very simply what was the experience for her and and I think would be interesting to know for us once he's she saw it What did she feel what was she was she surprised how much that technology managed to transmit that story? Which is not an easy story to tell Okay, he's asking for you to be able to share with people here What do you feel when you saw the Documentary for the first time it was exactly what you expected What was your experience of being able to pass this language because it's not easy to pass a story like that It's for this language You can talk more about the microphone I felt It was very very strong very beautiful at the same time I felt as if I was Inside the force of medicine and At the same time I felt How if a dream being realized How if we Enter there are moments that we are inside the force of medicine Or having a vision or within the dreams that we want to share with people And we can't really Show or we can't share exactly how it is because Because there are so many details So many things That come from the spirits and when I saw the documentary I saw something really beautiful and special I Noticed that we can share these things all together at the same time So with one person two people three people we can all share this this moment and it's such a beautiful moment This documentary shows a little bit when we were traveling we were At that event and someone told us now I'm going to go inside your mind I'm going to watch documentary and go inside your mind, and I said well, that's what this is about More or less Because it's as if we are connected with spirits people must have a very strong mind And must have a lot of awareness otherwise You go crazy Because it's a lot of information. It's there are so many voices So many spirits and this documentary shows a bit of that Of what we are going through It shows this power this strength It's as that it's like we travel within force within light and it's so beautiful So I was really glad and happy that this documentary managed to show a bit of what we see of What we live And this moment when we do this work At the right moment because the story that that one sees is is that story of transmission and apparently it happened Exactly when you started the project like so was it just luck or was it was the right meeting at the right moment? Do you mean the story of the trend the gender transition? Yes So so the story that that Tata the shaman actually was transmitting this at that moment and you you were able to capture that actually, I think I think the the story of Hushahu being trained and Shift in gender equality that started to happen in the community happened 12 or 15 years prior But the timing that that is so extraordinary that it kind of still takes our breath away is how Right at the moment that the film was coming out at Sundance and Davos was the moment that the world At large started to wrestle with gender equality in a new way and I think what we need what we need in the world is is a vision of How cultures can change to accommodate Gender parity and how how even things that seem really intransigent and really stuck actually have the capacity to shift and that's what the Yawanawa experienced and I think Perhaps the most moving thing to me In experiencing the film at Davos was to show it to extremely powerful Women who had fought to be the first of something in their field, you know the first major CEO of a large Company of a particular kind or we showed it to a woman who was the first female Fighter pilot in the United States and for those women it was extremely emotional to watch this story And I believe it it is because even though they fought the same fight that Hushahu fought to To break a taboo and and and become something different that didn't necessarily mean that the culture shifted and Things were necessarily more equitable or people in the culture at large started treating women differently But in for the Yawanawa, that's what happened And so Hushahu's story I believe gives us The capacity to to see something that that we can't see I mean first of all Which Toshka always intended it allows us to see the world the way the Yawanawa see it Which is different, but it also gives us this story of hope, and that's what I think Art can do and so even though it's a very technological project. It's filled with spirit and I think that what was such a Consequential meeting was of Not just you seeing the technology, but you meeting Lynette who when is an amazing artist and when she got to The community the Yawanawa. She said that was the first time she had ever felt truly seen that she felt like people were looking at her And they were seeing her soul, you know, so she was a The virtual reality was the technology that enabled this to happen But Lynette was the kind of spiritual connection, you know, and all those things coming together I think is what's so So Toshka before seeing virtual reality, do you think it would have been even possible to To make people experience in a way what what you are able to see Is that the moment where you saw this technology? You thought okay This this will make it work. I was immediately when I saw that I said that's it That I was looking for for so many Years ago, you know, and because Actually The webinar Give to the people the opportunity that never been there Watching few part of that One thing is People go to the community and they have experienced it because we've been saying you know, like leaving as a Yawanawa You'll see a lot of people over the world. They go to the Yawanawa. We have this annual Yawanawa celebration week But people need to go there it to goes there is not so easy You go for a flight after your Bronco you get about When the road is good is about eight hours by truck if not about 12 hours And the road the sleep in the municipality called Tarawa car from there to get more three out of us by truck again one is in the In the Amazon we have to see the rain was not rain Now is a rainy time is raining the water comes up you get about 6-7 hours by canoe of not to get 10 11 hours by canoe It's difficult to get there. It's very Believing very deep part of the Amazon, but the truth of technology today. I say Hoshahu is possible people Can see can travel it there and be touched with the Yawanawa You know our intention is to awaken these people Give this opportunity. It's like a window Give opportunity people to see that Thank you We don't have much time left, but I wanted to ask maybe one more question personally to Hushanu and if she thinks that she will be able to Transmit to other women What she has learned and and if there is more interest maybe now in the tribe from from from girls and women To know what a shaman does You Will everything I've learned throughout this process That I've been through all the visions all the drawings all the inspiration brought All of them have been shared with Yanoa women and not just be Yanoa women They have been shared with women in general. I do work with women precisely to share and Tell them It's not because we're women that we don't have the ability or That we don't have this the strength Everything that comes our way our challenges to test us and What I lived what I went through was a challenge and Now I take this message to all women not just Yanoa women, but women in general Whenever I meet them in my work and in my life for me It's as if I had a mission in life, which is to share With these women everything I've learned and I want to help even further not just women also men because In my tribe Not all men are like my brother Many leaders and other men They were angry at me Because I faced this huge challenge and I faced them in a way so not just Sharing this with women, but also with men and with children. I think this is a mission in my life on earth Which is to share everything? I've learned and this has made me has made me stronger and it will really help women Such to end this session today Thank you both for coming here. Thank you and Nicole for for making also this film available So if you didn't have the chance yet, hopefully you get the chance to watch it I can only recommend it. So thank you very much for being here today with us