 The best kind of doors are the doors you have to explain. Welcome, welcome to Unhinge with the Doordork. Today, we do have a very special nerd, Rich Strifle. Well, this last one is pretty nasty. I actually got it on my recent trip to Las Vegas. It was in a lower lobby, kind of leading out to a parking garage where you could get Uber. So I'll just let you see it. Hey, it's a hotel, yeah? Oh, and a mag walk too. The exit sign looks like it's on fire. It does look a little... Well, it looks like it's flames, right? Orange at the bottom, red at the top. Oh, is that a card? I was trying to decide if it was an indicator or a card reader. That looks like a hotel lock. Yeah. Like a no-call hotel lock or something. Yeah, mag strip lock, yeah. Wow. There's a reader here. Well, that's for the magnets. Yeah. And you've got to have a card to get through. Wow. Oh my gosh. Obviously, you didn't open the door. I wonder if the card reader aspect of it had been disabled. The hotel lock was maybe in passage function. I would really hope. So... And I would hope that the mag lock had been connected through the fire alarm system so that if someone pulled the pull station that the door would unlock. There's also no pull station right here. Right, my next point is it's got to be within a certain distance of the door and then there has to be a signage on the door indicating that you have to pull the pull station. Yes. I actually had my phone out. I was filming me walking up to this lock and I went up to try to see if it was open and it was locked but then immediately after that an employee came out that door and kind of caught me off guard. So I didn't, I wasn't able to get the whole shot but it was locked. I checked. Yes, yeah. Yep, pretty frightening stuff. What do you think the boxes off top are? Sorry, what do you think the what is? Not that, the like a third of the way down or a quarter of the way down those. What do you think that is covering? My thought was that they put like, I'm guessing that this is near the catering. This is a purely speculative. The catering area where they have the high carts full of decisions and maybe that's rent the door rub. Yeah, I think they just protected, protected play. And it was just staff only was coming in and out of this and so they had the doorman carts and stuff. I mean, you might be right with the catering carts as well, I'm sure. That makes sense. Transferring a lot of stuff through this. Or luggage carts, things like that. Yeah, you'd think at least on a door like this with an exit date at least have like maybe 15 second delay alarm part where you got to hold the bar in for 15 seconds and it squeals at you before it opens or something like that. But this is just, you know, but it's a hotel. So they do their own stuff. They don't hire pros. This is the guy who last week was the janitor and this week he's the maintenance guy, right? He's like, I've played around with low voltage. I could do a maglock. Yeah. I mean, in BC, locksmith is an apprenticeable trade. So it's a three year apprenticeship by the provincial government. Plus you have to be licensed by the attorney general's department, which is security, you know, background check, right? And they started that and I have to look at my license. 1995, they started that. So I went off and I did the test. So I'm a journeyman. So when people call me a technician, that's my pet peeve. I'm not a technician. Technician's the guy who fixes your photocopier. I'm a tradesman, right? I have a piece of paper on my wall says I'm a tradesman. So, but yeah. I don't believe Las Vegas has a low voltage license, but it might be wrong. Maybe someone correct me if I'm wrong. I know Washington, California and Oregon all have, you need a low voltage license to work on electronic hardware like this. But I think Utah, Idaho and Nevada, I don't know. Nevada might need a license, but I might be wrong. Statewide. For BC, low voltage, I think 124 volts or something like that is included in the trade of locksmith, right? And also alarm installers can do access control as well. And the alarm companies do the majority of access control stuff because the locksmiths are too busy fixing the mistakes afterwards. Really? Wow, that's different from here. Usually alarm companies aren't doing as much access control. It's like the security integrators, I guess maybe they're one and the same. I don't know. Here it's quite a split. My nephew is an alarm installer and has been for a long time and they do a lot of access control stuff. I learn something every day. This is awesome. Well, this is not awesome. This is not great. Yeah. So are we gonna rate it? Yeah, any final comments? Yeah, it's still obstructed, right? It's got a nice astragal on the door. It's still obstructed. So you're not getting through no matter how hard you beat on it. And I'll hope that the fire alarm system would disable the mag lock. And that would tell me there's no flush bolts on the door. So if the fire alarm went off and the mag lock let go, which I'm not guaranteeing would happen, the doors should be able to push open. In theory, the right side, the right leaf is actually locked. So it would probably just be the left leaf that would just be able to push. Well, but then they'd be pinned together and then they both open at the same time, right? Yeah, I guess, yeah. The latch on the right hand side would be locked into the left hand side. I mean, when you're using your card entry, it probably unlocks both mags because if they're pushing carts of stuff through it. Yeah, they would have to, yeah. But interestingly, they don't have any lever protection. They don't have any bumps on the doors to prevent carts from taking the door handles off. So it's a toughie. I don't know what that crap is at the top. Maybe they can reuse the door from the kitchens or something. Yeah, yeah, yeah. Yeah, I guess the mag locks, it's locked in two different ways. It's a technically path of egress. It's exit that apparently only staff can get through. I didn't try my hotel card, but I doubt it was gonna work. I knew it wouldn't work on the mag stripe because I didn't have a mag stripe on, but I doubt it would have worked on that reader as well. Well, that's not acceptable for fire code anyway. Yeah, you shouldn't. Because you have to have a special device. No special knowledge or device to open the door. Exactly. That's three strikes you're out in my book. Yep, yep, yep. Seems like a hat trick today. Yeah, that's pretty scary stuff. And the problem is, is that you can yell and scream all you want and mostly it falls on deaf ears, until the big New York nightclub fire where they were chaining the panic hardware together so people couldn't let their friends in the back door because it was cheaper than putting a guy on the door to read people from doing that. But, you know, till that happens. And hospitality is a whole nother beast and especially in Vegas, it's the race to the bottom. So I'm not surprised to see stuff like this. This was not my only life safety picture that I took over the week that was there. Yeah, yeah, yeah, for sure. This was probably the worst one though. Yeah, you know, I was in Vegas a year ago actually and I look at, you know, what kind of hardware's on the door? Like when you talk about door hardware nerds, you know, I walk up, I look at hardware and I can, when I first apprenticed, the guy who trained me, we had a little bit of a game going. If we'd walk up to a premise that we were unfamiliar with, it was a contest between the two of us to see who could identify the key way of the door as you were walking up to it, right? Which is, it was kind of fun, but it's a damn good way to learn key ways, right? Yeah, yeah, that's actually brilliant. As you're walking up to like a door, look at the cylinder and who can identify the key way first? I still do that. My wife gets annoyed because, you know, we'll go to someplace. Like we were in a upper scale restaurant and we were sitting out on the patio and they had a door that was closed to go from the restaurant side to the patio side. The door closer was half hanging on and there was all kinds of issues with the door, the panic hardware wasn't installed properly and all that. And I'm watching, every time someone comes through this door, they're struggling with this door and I couldn't stand it anymore. When we left, I called the manager over and I said, you gotta fix this and this is the wrong and this is what's wrong and this is the wrong. My wife's just shaking her head, but I have to. It's, you know, it's in my blood. Like a good locksmith, you have a strong sense of integrity and it holds you accountable. So yeah. And a low tolerance for stupidity. Hey, are we saying it? Are we calling it a 10? Another 10? We have to. It's a life safety thing. It's a 10. Wow. This is a first of firsts. Happy birthday. It's a trifecta or a hat trick. If only we were turning 30. Yeah, there you go. I did that a long time ago. I was going to say I'm pretty much another decade older than that, so. Yeah. If we had this last year, I'd have been turning 33, right? That would have been 33. All right. Still baby. Okay, well, Rick, thank you so much for joining us. It was a pleasure having you on the show. Make sure you join us for the next episode of Unhinged. Our doors are always open, partially because they're unhinged. If you want to be featured on a future episode of Unhinged or if you have a photo to submit like Rick did today, you can email me at Mia at doorhardwarenerds.com. Thanks for watching.