 Okay, um calling to order the December 11th transportation advisory board meeting We can start with a roll call And we'll note that council member or board member boroughs McKee and Wickland are not able to attend Great, and do we feel comfortable then doing the next item the special election for vice chair? We do have a quorum, but do we feel as if we would like to have Board member Wickland and boroughs McKee here There's a McKee boroughs. I might just read that up any thoughts on that Board member Kim. Oh, I'm sorry Yes, I would prefer it to push this back to next meeting I was there goes Yes, I was also going to say it depends I don't know how board member Bennett would feel but I'm okay with pushing it to the next meeting whenever that is Is there any risk to go for a month without having a vice chair? Chair and board member I don't think so. I think we're we could do this in January just as easily as as today So if you'd like to wait that doesn't seem to make a lot of sense Sure, I'm also in favor of waiting then the only issue will be if if the chair cannot make it Yeah, in January Then we'll just wing it I suppose Yeah, none whatsoever, right? Okay, so we'll put that off then till the next meeting in January Let's move on to approving the minutes of the preceding meeting October meeting minutes Any comments or any corrections on the minutes from any just a couple of minor revisions on minutes page 7 line 10 Make that pure city. That's P er rather than pure city and on minutes page 8 line 1 I Think the intent is to refer to a car centric society rather than a car eccentric society although I kind of think that's an interesting term And those are my comments Great, so noted any other comments from any of the board members on the minutes Can I get a motion to approve? Motion to approve the last meeting's minutes Seconded all those in favor say aye Aye So we've approved next would be Phil communications from staff. Yeah, thank you very much chair. I was going to try to find the actual Release press release about the corridor identification program for front-range passenger rail and how that did make it onto the corridor ID program for the nationally I Can't find the specifics Be sure to send those out and follow-up email just so that you have all the details, but we did We the region did get selected for the front-range passenger rail section from Ford Collins Down to basically Pueblo as far as moving to the next level of being able to apply for funding and get grant funding for That corridor when it's when it's ready. That doesn't mean it's going to be Free to the public they are they do have a district and so the district will Likely at some point and I do know I'd have heard that the governor wants to put it on the ballot for 2024 so November 2024 next less than a year away is Is when he'd like to see it on the ballot to start funding that that district all along the front-range so We're gonna have to figure that out We'll probably have some folks come in here and discuss how that's gonna affect Longmont specifically Especially if we're gonna continue to pay a front or a fast tracks tax a point four cent tax on fast tracks Because this will supplement fast tracks. And so we don't want to be double taxed Obviously as a city and I think our council members would agree with that as well So we need to be very careful on how that moves forward, but it's a great first step in the process So we're very excited about that Any questions about front-range passenger ill not giving you a lot of details on what I know, but We have been working very closely with that group and I Think we had him come in maybe a year and a half ago To chat with TAB and a lot of you were not on that group so we can have them come in again And we've got the work program and we've got actually have a whole One agenda item number 10 is dedicated to future agenda items So let us know if you'd like us to add that for a future agenda item Secondly, we'd like to just chat we do have a couple quite a few updates for you today tonight Regarding multimodal capital projects so Jim's gonna do that as part of the info items as a formal kind of presentation piece to this formal So I did want to just mention that it as our vision zero has been a pretty Continuing topic for this group and so we just did want to let you know that we are in the process We had one interview today. We'll have three more interviews this week So we've got a vision zero coordinator hopefully we You know, you never know what the hiring process these days, but we're hoping that we can Get somebody talk to somebody in the next next week and do some sit-down interviews with folks and just really drill down into You know, who who gets this job? And so we're pretty excited because I think we have some we have four really good prospects And so we're excited to talk to them and hopefully in the brand new year We'll be able to have them come forward and sit one of these chairs and chat with you a little bit about vision zero and the future of that and specifically the vision zero task force and So we're soliciting any names of folks if you do have volunteers Please send those along to me and we'll start to accumulate that list or get that list together and work on that Otherwise, I think all the other items are from Jim tonight So we'll wait wait to hear from some of those and then we'll wait to hear your comments at the end from items from from from board members and then Hopefully be able to answer any further questions you have about projects or what's been going on I do know there's a legislative breakfast in early January, but it's not free But it's a it's a good place if you really are interested in the politics of Transportation to get a lot of the understanding of what's in the next legislative session And if you have more questions about that, I can I can get you linked into that as well. So Do not know I'll let you know the cost to but Yeah, so we may be able to sponsor that Jim may be able to sponsor that it's a new budget here. Yeah Not that Jim has a lot of money if you read the article from this weekend, but He's got a few dollars hanging out if if you're really interested in the policies Going to the state legislature this year. It's a really good one to attend That's all I have for right now. Thank you Public invited to be heard. Do we want to go to public comments? Yeah, any public here that would like to be heard. This is a different point of view So hello transportation advisory board. I just wanted to check in with you. I Wanted to reiterate that you have a an advocate on the council for transportation and I'm sorry, I kind of rushed through traffic to get here and I've lost my train of thought I Had talked with council on the 5th of December about having more overlap between the transportation board the Airport advisory board and the Parks and Recreation Board and that Primarily because the Parks and Recreation Board I happened to sit in on one of their meetings and they were talking about The pathways that they have through parks and how to make them more safe between pedestrians and bicyclists And I mentioned to them that this is exactly something that we had discussed at transportation board I think it might be helpful to both boards to discuss that In some overlapped fashion Because anything we do or that you all do with bicycles is and going to affect the Pathways that they have through parks. So So I would like to encourage that type of interaction I don't know what that would look like in the future, but I would like to explore that as an opportunity I also wanted to report that I happened to go down I 25 Near Firestone there, I guess where 119 goes under the bridge And I don't know if we ever talked about this and maybe I'm dismissed the the presentation that you too did About the bus staying and snow staying that C-DOT is doing do you just talk about that before I walked in? And just that they're they're making an underpass there. I know we've had All right, the transportation board has had people from Firestone Concerned about being able to travel from Firestone into logmont and that that is making good progress there It's an interesting concept. So there's going to be a hub there on the West side, I think of the highway both sides. Yeah, well, there's a park and ride on the east side. I know that so it'll make Communication between the two towns easier than trying to navigate the highway 119 there so There was one other item. I Was wondering about The is before the council to talk about Rogers Road and I'm a little concerned about the Transportation there between Rogers Road and getting down to say Costco. It's kind of the same area down Over on 119 where it's just difficult to get through and it was very rugged territory So I'm just going to throw that out as something to keep on the radar. All right. Nice to see you all again. Thanks for all you do Great, thank you Phil I do know on the TMP At least in the planning session that we had parks and rec and airport were represented So I would imagine that any overlap might be able to be covered by the TMP and that process In the planning side of things Yeah, that's a great point. We do include a number of board boards including the senior advisory board and the sustainability advisory board We do not include the airport advisory board. This is really a surface transportation piece But we do include parks and rec advisory board. So we are trying to get a pretty good cross cut of The city boards and commissions on this planning and zoning is another board we have So you're correct. Yes Okay Nobody else for public comments. So Jim, I guess you can take it away now All righty, I wanted to just cheerleader and board members provide you a quick update on a couple of Projects I've given you updates on these in the past I just wanted to keep you informed as to kind of as we get into winter kind of some of our activities that occur I'm going to start off with Kauffman Street the multimodal improvement project To date design is complete We are currently in the process of acquiring some final right-of-way acquisitions mostly in the form of of Some temporary construction easements and some permanent easements and we for that we we do require or CDOT who is Well, it is not a CDOT road The IGA we have for the the state and federal funding is routed through CDOT So we have an IGA with CDOT. So we need there we follow their design standards So we do need a final CDOT clearances on those that property acquisition prior to advertisement for the bid Jim Yes for anybody who wants to know that's intergovernmental Oh, I'm sorry agreement. So what that is is when there's a state agency working with a local they'll sign an agreement So they know who's responsible for what who's going to do what just so you know when he says IGA That's what that is and it in the city of Longmont It's any government age other government agency that we we work with requires an IGA Plan design we're trying to get to bid advertisement early January and the plan construction start. We're still holding is March 2024 Next project is It's not on the agenda, but I'm gonna throw it in anyway Spring Gulch number two is a trail project on the east side of town to date they've laid about about 2,900 linear feet of 10-foot wide concrete trail that trail is currently closed to the public Mainly because it doesn't go anywhere It in the middle of the project is the Great Western Railroad The controlling factor in the project is getting the underpass constructed And that really won't start and there's a long lead time on those concrete items They have been ordered at the start of the project and we're going into a winter shutdown the contractor will pull off the job We anticipate bringing up in the spring when they'll have those That material in stock There's a precast box concrete box culvert that has to be pre-ordered Takes a while to manufacture and that's underway So we'll see that come up in the spring and then hopefully by summer We'll see that trail open and then as we get into that timeframe. I'll keep you up to date on that project as well But that'll provide that connection Down to Sandstone Ranch kind of from the north east side of town anywhere from kind of 66 all the way across down down to Sandstone 17th Avenue sidewalk improvements. That's a project on the north side of 17th Avenue They've got almost all the concrete in place now They should finish up the concrete work before the end of the year and then they'll finish up in the spring when they Have to do the landscaping and finish some of the irrigation work The Boston Avenue bridge project They are on schedule and no change orders have been needed to date. They are working on the south side of the bridge They've demoed half the bridge and they're starting to work on their caissons for the bridge pilings part of that work included the relocation at At Boston to South Francis that work has been completed. They've got most of South Francis open now Doing a little more drainage work, but that project is Continuing to move forward part of that project involves the continued detour of the St. Varane Trail We've worked with Parks and Rec And added some additional signing I believe we also had just working with BNSF Redid the crossing of Bowen We'd had some concrete failures ask as fault failures there So we just redid that working with BNSF to make that that trail crossings a little bit a little bit better improved We added some additional signing Down in Boston as well to and we're still waiting for a couple more signs We're gonna put in some flashing not RFB's but some flashing crosswalk signs to accentuate that area on a temporary basis And Then Main Street when you do that one Yeah, no So a couple of updates on Main Street and some of the improvements they've been working on there You're where we've we installed the RFB's we brought that to your attention a few meetings ago We continue to monitor those to see that the timings are working for People elderly people who cross a little slower and we adjust accordingly We have been working on upgrading the traffic signals For a changeover from our adaptive signal systems So we have put in new cameras from Pike Road all the way to 6th Avenue We're waiting for equipment to come in for 7th and 9th When we get 7th and 9th completed, we're working with our other vendor to get the newest system up and running So we're looking at the first quarter next year And the main reason for for the upgrades is that that will allow us to adjust some of the cross traffic and the pedestrian Crossings to add more time to those on an individual basis versus going Basically working with the vendor who has to go in and make the change the city can staff can do that That's in addition that the old adaptive signal system was failing Their processors are good for about five to six years and we've started to see those and have to replace them And they're about 20 grand a pop. So we've had to do Several dozen this this year and it was unexpected. So but that works ongoing As we get into next year, we'll be proceeding up Main Street From 9th Avenue all the way up to north of Main's north of 66 Hope to by the end of next year. We'll have that completed and then up and running as well Once that is completed, we're going to start on 119 And then get in on to hover and replace the adaptive signal systems on those two corridors I do have a question actually on the adaptive signal And Kyle, you know, it's probably directed to you so I'm just curious because I've seen some projects on adaptive signal control and what we're seeing is increased pet activity and As you know pet activity can cause a lot of transition Even in an adaptive environment So how how does the system compensate for the pet calls that are going to come in especially on Main Street? Because you're gonna have a lot of cross-pads as opposed to along the main line pets I'm just curious if that's something that's definitely going to be addressed in this adaptive Yeah, and that's one of main reasons of upgrading the system our current adaptive system how it functions is if a there's pestering call on The side streets will actually short cycle the greens and arrows for the rest of the cycles and so Usually the driver here is a little less happy This new system it allows us to segment the adaptive system network a bit better so we can really truncate it for 119 as you're going up Main Street through the more wider areas Really at less pedestrian traffic you can make them a little more rigid But as you get through our Main Street area, or we have more pedestrian activity It allows us to add or deduct time from the cycles to adjust those Periods, so if there is a call on multiple signals It can adjust the entire network together versus signal by signal because once you call one signal it'll actually disrupt the entire Link for a few seconds until it can get back on track So that's kind of why the current system isn't very pedestrian friendly because it was more made for vehicles This newer one is made for multiple modes of traffic buses But also it remains in our control so our current system actually locks us out of our controllers that control the system so it's very hard for myself to make edits to See what traffic is doing it just takes weeks and a lot of money to do this through a third-party company This new system will allow me to make changes very fast and reactive and be able to see that in real time and really understand how It's functioning and why it does function the way it does a lot of the generally to the processors It's just a black box that just tells me yep. I'm gonna turn it now. I'm gonna turn it out I'm turn it now this new one will show me an entire plan for the entire day So that's kind of where we're heading that direction So that was kind of the the the projects I wanted to to bring to your attention As we move to the next item, which is the end-of-year report and our 2024 work plan I just want to bring up that as we plan for some of our work for next year We do anticipate bringing that forward to tab before It kind of gonna get gets released and goes to construction That mostly will involve our rehab program There are a number of corridors. We have that we're gonna be attacking next year where we're gonna be looking to change the existing Striping around For more multimodal adding more multi-modal facilities So we want to as we kind of present that get that approved by city manager We're gonna bring that forward to tab to let you guys know kind of what our activities are in that realm We do that pretty much almost every year Whether it's a complete rebuild or a a Rehab or a chip seal an example of chip seals. We did 9th. We did 3rd, but we're looking at those corridors now Planning those those areas out. Sometimes it's only block by block But it it it's it gets us to to build the network for for bikes And with that I'll turn it back over to Phil to talk about the work Questions At a quick one so on the restriping is there any talk about in regards with vision zero of any sort of road diets? Or would that be something that would be completely separate from this discussion? Well We're looking at one road for a road diet It's South Fordham in one block section It's a three lane section right now. So we be looking kind of when we restripe it It's mostly all commercial traffic. There's no residents in the area and there's limited driveways So we're looking at that road and say hey, can we do a road diet here? It's got substandard bike lanes now I believe so we're looking if we eliminate the center turn lane and you know add wider lanes But still have room for buffered bike lanes. That's we're gonna be coming in with a striping plan to show just that That's that's one of the ones that comes to mind We're looking at a striping plan on Gay Street and what we may want to do there And then there's a couple of miscellaneous roads with just one block or two in the downtown area. We're looking at as well That's not next year Good evening again. I actually Need to amend part of this discussion. We really need the 2023 TAB annual report to be an action item so we will request action tonight on that item just as a This is a recommendation you make to city council so that they can see your work program and see what you accomplished this year So I'll just go through the list really quickly and then just ask for for that motion. I think that's Possible with this Format even though it's not it wasn't on the agenda. So I'm a little concerned about that piece of it, but Let's try to do it that way if there's a mistake we'll bring it back to you in January and we'll redo it but technically You as a transportation advisory board help nine regular meetings in 2023 that includes tonight's and the following annual work activities were bought to TAB you've seen this list We had the regional electric vehicle plan presented by one of our staff members from our sustainability group Third Avenue striping and signage plan. We actually had a pretty interesting meeting where we talked about that with the public It was almost a public meeting more than it was a public TAB meeting I guess vision zero resolution recommendation to city council So you did make that resolution to city council and they did adopt that at their follow-up meeting status update on microtransit funding and options we talked about how that was possibly coming to town and now we have some More partnership dollars from RTD on that. So we are moving forward in the next year to bring microtransit Which is gonna be a basically a More formalized Uber lift system For all of long what hopefully we'll see how that goes. We're gonna put the RFP out in January And I'll certainly we'll keep you up to date on what happens with all that as well appointment of TAB member to the transportation mobility planning efforts you've heard about that Congratulations chair laner on that one Vision zero work session. We did spend a lot of time on vision zero And thanks to former board member chris for a lot of that work Subcommittee to interview new TAB applicants. We do this every May so we'll be doing this again. We have an open position which will be filled and in a July Council meeting, but we'll have to start in May to get those Get those applicants reviewed and and we'll do that again in in May Transportation mobility plan process update the 2022 capital improvement program updates staff presentation and discussion And thanks to Jim for the for the follow-up to update on some of those projects today Reviewing comments on public works natural resources back when they used to be called public works and natural resources operational budget now They're just public works. I Hope that's correct work plan an annual report here. We are doing that again So an annual board elections of new chair and vice chair pretty basic We want to do that again in now in January and get a vice chair elected So RTD update we do that every every year and I would be certainly willing to hear from board members on what they think about that effort some of you were not here but it would be interesting to hear if you hear if the board does want to know more about other Agencies and what they're doing as far as You know the flex bus we we've kind of pushed that off a little bit because they're they're data Even though it's more robust is There's not a lot of There's a lot of riders, but there's not a lot in Longmont. So it's more of a regional system when we talk to RTD We get a very much Longmont centric update on what's going on with ridership and Impacts and trains and all the good stuff, you know from all the different things that we're worried about with RTD and with flex it is just that continuation of the bus and Not much changes. So we've kind of kept them at bay a little bit But let me know if you wanted to hear any more items if there's anything that interests you about Surface transportation specifically and we can we can kind of delve into how we bring that up in 2024 The proposed 2023 2027 CIP so the proposed one for the next for the upcoming year so that probably should say 2024 to 2028 CIP And the 2018 to 2022 high crash location summary and we had that in our October meeting so with that we would entertaining any questions that you have for staff regarding that that update, but we'd also ask for a motion that the board approved the 2023 annual report And that's all I have for that I Can start With you board member came if you have any questions No, no questions when I read the the minutes from The board's last meeting which I was not able to attend I Think my name was advanced as a possible Person to continue with the TMP planning process But did I understand that? You're taken on that rule. Okay. Just wanted to clarify that Yes, you were my member McInerney to do the evaluation of the of the different consulting firms So thank you for your help on that. We didn't add that into our list That's another achievement or accomplishment for the year that You helped on that be on that board. We really appreciate your time on that But then when it came back to who's gonna represent the board on the TMP I Think chair Lainer stepped up and and said he'd like to do that But you may have been you may have been gone during that one. So We we put you down as the alternate to cover for for chair Lainer when he is unable to be there or if he If if he becomes a council member of or something similar, so We do have that we do have that Provision that we did add you as an alternate because all the other boards wanted to have two people And we can only have one from each board So we asked that they have the other person be the alternate. So Knowing that you were interested in the consultant selection piece of that We added you as the alternate to that board or to that Transportation mobility plan effort and are the alternates Invited to attend the steering committee meeting. They are invited to attend, but we're asking that they not Maybe sit at the table or participate in all the discussions We're trying to keep that as a smaller group, but we have asked that the other people attend and we've asked that the primary member Stay in contact with their alternate to keep them up to date on what's going on So if they do have to slide in there for kind of emergency, they're not just coming in cold Understood have the meetings been scheduled. I know there will be Quarterly meetings of the steering committee. We do not have specific dates yet set, but we will those are coming up pretty soon We've we've had some snafus with contracting and so we just We were hoping to get the contract going in early Well first thing in November and it's the first thing in December now. So unfortunately, we've had to wait on that Okay, thanks for the update The only thing that I see that might be missing But maybe it just doesn't count because it wasn't actually at a TAV meeting was the transportation Summit of the sustainable transportation summit I Since members attended is that something that you would add to the list? Yeah, that's a great addition. Thank you. Of course. Yeah, I just had On the RTD update and talking about the light rail as well as the BRT and Kauffman Street RTD is involved of course with the BRT in the Kauffman Street but They're not engaged at all on this rail transit funding and and all that that's going on with that. Are they? just to the point of being engaged With the idea that this could be a substitution for what they were planning for fast tracks So this could cover, you know quite frankly. I'm trying to be as frank as possible But it's it does help them fulfill that promise that Was fast tracks. Okay And I didn't know because it seemed like with RTD only coming in once a year. Do we feel like that's enough? I know that their schedules quite busy Do would we warrant having them twice a year partly because of the activity that we have with these various kind of pieces? And we can offer to them and to you as a board You know if you want to hear about transit ridership that could be one meeting if you want to hear about rail which is Kind of in its own. It's in a different level of participation we could have them come more often for that Twice a year like you said I would be open to looking at that. Although I know this is part of the just what we've done this year But for the future on I know we're going to talk about the work plan And it may be interesting to have front-range passenger rail come once a year Just to kind of get that update as well. That's a good idea So we would then you're requesting that we we've reviewed we've discussed and we want to approve this annual report. Is that correct? with the amendments that have been put in I put in the transportation mobility plan consultant selection Piece of that and then I also put in a sustainable transportation summit participation and so with those two amended We'd appreciate a motion to approve the work plan. Okay, if I could get a motion to approve a motion to approve the transportation advisory board yearly plan Second all those in favor say aye. Hi Past Great, thank you very much, and then we'll move on to the 2024 proposed work plan, which is more of a this is more of an information item and What we'll do is we want to introduce this tonight and then bring it back to your January meeting for action So you can formally Approve it in January after you've this one. This one is more about what do you want to see as the work program in 2024 we put together The work plot program basically just taken the 2023 work program and amended it here there's some things that probably fall out like The transportation mobility plan in number two under envision longmont and multi-metal transportation implementation plan That's probably more than just a quarter one Piece that's going to come to you quite a few times in 2024 at least three times in 2024 Also under number four other there's vision zero and just quarter three and local micro transit model Q4 those probably also become much more An as-needed item and we'll we'll come to you often with those Just because vision zero is it's going to be such a hot topic and it is today And it's going to become more of a hot topic in 2024 The micro transit piece is probably going to be implemented in the first quarter Hopefully or maybe second quarter of 2024 so at that point it'll be kind of an ongoing thing We can report out stats and different data points for you so you understand if it's working or not and report in and give us some feedback as staff on What our next step should be and what you see in that program so local micro transit model that? That may be Q4, but I almost want to think of that as more of an ongoing item But and there may be something that you're thinking about that's not on this list And that's certainly something we'd want to hear about as well either tonight or in the January meeting your your option on that so If you want to bring amendments to the January meeting Certainly that'll be open to the board for discussion and and consideration I Can go through this list if you like, but I think it's pretty straightforward It is really just for your perusal at this point and The idea that you take this home and do some homework over the next month and just let us know what you think is important And if you want to hear more about other things, let us know. Thank you Thank you Phil. Okay, it looks like we've covered our information items and the one action item I'll start with Board member Bennett with any comments and any additions or anything that you'd like to add Now things coming to mind Although I would say I'm very excited to for the opportunity to speak with the front-range passenger rail I think that'd be a great opportunity and Given our increased partnership with RTD. I would love to have Hear from them twice in the year as well. I Have one suggestion for a future Board meeting agenda and that would be to invite a city representative from Snow and ice control operations to attend a tab meeting and At that time we would discuss how The municipal transportation policy of putting pedestrians and transit riders first Will be put into practice during snow events Hmm. I don't have really many questions or comments other than I want to echo Board member Bennett and say I would look forward to more our RTD meetings To just finally, you know get to meet them for first time and maybe pick their brains about some other questions I've had for them But really appreciate all the updates. Thank you guys. I just want to add exciting news on the Grant on the light rail And I do think light rail should maybe end up being a little bit more of a component that we do discuss on an ongoing basis as opposed to if it's once a year or what have you And that's really about it could work on all this other items that you brought forward Council person Yarborough Thank You chair Just want to say I echo whatever all the suggestions especially the snow and having a city employees to come in and talk to us about the process and How do they prioritize because we get a lot of emails in the winter time and I mean we keep redirecting people and It seems like a lot of times they're not satisfied with you know, you know that they're not really satisfied as to why you know, the It's not plowed up as often as it should be or maybe because they're in the cold and just certain situations and I Think that's a really good idea because I know Well, I don't know I'm not this I don't know but we may get a lot of snow next year and so I think if we can kind of It would be great for me to actually hear them speak and I can't even You know address some of the emails and concerns of the community that have brought up to me about They feel like they're not you know getting their areas Taking care of as much whether it's the street or whether it's a cold Situations like that. So thanks for bringing it up. I like that and Everything else. Yeah, congratulations About you know, the grant and everything we we love to have money to get these projects done Although we do know that having some money is not enough all the time, you know, especially now With prices going up on everything and then waiting forever in a year To get those items that we need to complete a project So I do understand and know that but that's why we continuously looking always looking for grant money And that's why I appreciate, you know, you all looking at many different grants I will say that I went to NLC in Atlanta and I'm always so proud of our Our city of Longmont and our transportation our departments everything because when I boast about what we're doing Other cities are like writing every these ideas And like make sure you give me your car because I may be emailing you asking you for stuff I'm like, you don't want to ask me but but it's Every time I go to these conferences I'm so proud of of our staff and I mean you all to help bring those ideas to staff To make you know to implement the ideas that are needed and what you see in our community So it's so important. I just want to say continues to say thank you For being considerate not just of what you see every day, but thinking about thinking outside the box What will happen if that was my grandmother or mother or my child on the bike or a pedestrian or whatever and in Considering that and bringing that forth in this meeting. So I appreciate you all for everything you do So the micro transit was a big hit in Atlanta So I'm I'm looking forward to talking to people in DC in March I don't know if you're going to NLC Congressional. Are you going Phil? Okay, yeah, so hopefully I can also see if there's more funding for something like that, too I will say this and then I'll be quiet, but a lot of times When we go to these conferences and we're already doing the work So in a sense it almost feels like we're being penalized because we're ahead of the game and for those who hadn't even Conjured up the idea of a resolution for some of those these problems They're getting all the funding and so since we're already doing some of this work We don't get the money And so, you know, so I don't know we got to be strategic I don't know how we could be strategic in that way But I just want to let you know that a lot of times that's why we we won't even qualify Because we're already doing the work and it's for those municipalities that are so far behind that they're trying to figure it out So thank you For making me look good when I go to these conferences You all are amazing and continue to you know, just disclose what's in your thoughts and and what you see in the community Because it does make a difference. So thank you You might want to ask for a finder see I think that about wraps it up we can go ahead and get a motion to Close our meeting for tonight Just one item I just wanted to make sure that for proposed or upcoming agendas We show that we're gonna do the proposed work plan for 2024 in January And then I'll work with RTD and front-range passenger rail to see if I can get one of those groups to come in Update us on the peak service study, which is the commuter rail passenger rail piece that they're talking about and maybe give this group an update on that or and or Front-range passenger rail. They may both want to come so we'll just find out how that looks in their schedules. Thank you Phil just to Clarify some crystal on it. What exactly are you asking the board to do regarding the 2024 plan? Oh so for Now it's just basically I've handed out homework and so if you can just take a look at that and Make sure it and we should probably do something to make it a little bit more simpler to read But we talked about doing that and we Done we weren't sure how to make it more readable, but it's it's kind of it's kind of tough Yeah, the text could be bigger we could eliminate some items So any ideas that you have as a transportation advisory board that you want to bring to the next meeting and just kind of help us help you kind of thing where we Scratch some things off. Maybe that don't really apply anymore if you think hey, you know what we don't really need to hear about this Or hey, there's something on there's something not on here that we'd like to see you talk We'd like to hear more about this item like snow and ice is not is a new one for us like that's a For downtown and for those for most of the trails That's a parks or a park item that they take care of so we're gonna work with parks And maybe that's a joint Meeting that we have with the PR AB the Parks and Rec advisory board and talk about That with with those folks because our streets folks did a wonderful job clearing the streets But they are not part of the group that clears trails sidewalks and those kind of things So there's a disconnect and we just need to get that together and and have those people if you want to Hear from them come to one of those meetings or maybe it is a parks and rec advisory board Maybe Q4 Q1 Yeah, right right before and right during yeah, the snow events And it will be something that we talked about with the transportation mobility plan as well when we As board member McInerney talked about we flipped the Flip the paradigm a little bit and talk about pedestrians As that higher priorities and the transit riders. Thanks This is a little bit out of order, but was the traffic safety fund reports supposed to be included in tonight's agenda We typically do that you'll see that in the on the on the actual work plan where we talked about that in Q2 yes So we feel like we've done that we're trying to get a head start on it But at this point we're just gonna do it with our regular timing because we have to report up to council by June Of every year and so we'll just bring that up to you in probably May time frame and Run it by you before we take it to directly the city council What were the funds allocated for in 2023? Mostly those funds were allocated for we had a half-time employee Lauren Greenfield who who runs But bike safety program and she every week she has two groups of riders kind of a Lower level and then a higher level of rider and she trains them basically takes them on rides To train them throughout the city on how to ride safely and she gets pretty good turn out so We'll have to I know she's got some different plans for 2024. So we're gonna Try to work with her schedule and figure out what we can do for that for those kind of trainings next year But I think as that starts to devolve into something and if that starts to move out of the training piece That money will be going to the vision zero coordinator As far as education items that we'll need to do and probably a lot of calm Communication teams effort on that as well. So we're looking at how that how that kind of transitions. It's a five dollar per ticket Fee though that is charged and goes into this fund to help people Become more safe and aware on the roads And on in all modes, I guess I could go ahead and Motion to adjourn tonight's meeting. Do I have a second second? All those in favor say aye. Hi