 Hey everybody, it's Eric Johnson from AirTay Throws Nation. In today's video, we are gonna talk about three common mistakes using multiple female throwers varying in ages and showing you common mistakes they make when it comes to the stand throw. So thrower number one here, she really has in what we call is an inverted orbit and you're gonna notice that when that orbit is inverted it's gonna tend to lend to having the upper body go really, really active and that's gonna make your throws training really difficult and slower so getting the orbit up is gonna be your first big thing that you're gonna really wanna focus on and you can see that how that athlete pulls around. Now the second athlete, we're kinda working the same we're trying to teach this athlete a restricted motion this is what we call as a pre-block and what we do is we kinda purposely restrict motion and so that we're gonna be teaching how to move that orbit kinda into position and so that we're teaching the athlete to keep the discus away and pull around and into the throw and you're gonna see nice progress being made this is early in this athlete as they start when they started training with me. Now when we're kinda leading into that look at this athlete, this is one of our young athletes from Australia and her dad is one of our throwing chain reaction member coaches so they have done an absolute fantastic job and this young athlete keeps that arm so far away and up and that really allows for that big nice snappy pull. Now this athlete here was a former Olympian very successful thrower from Jamaica and she trained with us for a little bit had a couple of years off so we were looking at her stand throw so you're gonna notice that we were trying to retool her stand throw and you're gonna see that she had a lot of extra motion because she's a more advanced thrower but you could see she created great stretch and she would kinda go from a low to a high but did hit a high point. All right, so now that we've kinda looked at the orbit for each athlete we're gonna look at a couple of main variables that are gonna just really help each athlete. One of the things is you're gonna notice the athlete up in the upper left. Again, notice how the orbit goes down low and notice how that pulls the chest out of position. This athlete's really flexible. You tend to see that with many female throwers tend to have much better flexibility than male throwers. Sometimes that's a good thing and sometimes that's not so you're gonna look at the thrower up here and you're gonna see that this athlete winds the discus down too low which is actually pulling the shoulders out of position and that's gonna affect the block arm. Now you're gonna look here, look at this young athlete. I think this athlete of the four actually has the best position of the discus. Look at how that discus and look at this kinda 90 degree angle. This is a really, really key thing. Now here's the Olympian, right? This athlete has a 61 plus meter PR, a world rank top 30 in the world. In 2016, she does get that discus up to that high point. So what you're gonna notice is is a really nice counterbalance and that allows the athlete to move around. Now this athlete is doing what we call a pre-block which is restricted stand throw position. It's not technically a stand throw. It's a position what we refer to as a pillar six drill that's intended specifically to have her pull the discus around and so we're limiting how much she can move the lower body but we're trying to teach kinda that orbit. So now when you watch each of these athletes and we kinda just rewind it back and you watch them take a throw, watch the difference in the orbit and look at the quality of the movement. And that is what's gonna be super important and the biggest thing that's gonna help you in your training is to be able to get that discus up into that high point and you're gonna notice again that's what really makes the big difference and so it's something as simple as this. Now there's a number of ways and there's a number of reasons why this can't necessarily be the most effective but again notice even here the young athlete compared to the older more experienced world-class athlete but you're gonna notice the one thing that the world-class athlete does better than everybody else is move the arm here. Ready? So watch as she comes. Watch the balance arm, the block arm and that's something you'll see that's gonna really make the big difference whereas this athlete when the discus drops the shoulders gonna pull. This is gonna be a big issue and so you're gonna notice here the more experienced athlete, look at that as she's gonna be able to come through you're gonna see that nice big long radius setting that discus into the orbit and that's gonna make all the difference in the world. So simple tip for you guys, hopefully that helps. 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