 Iwn y dyma'r gwaith y mae'n gweithio i'r awg. Dyma'r gwaith yma. Mae'r gwaith o'r cymdeithas o bwysig o'r stori. Rwy'n gweithio sy'n ffrindio'r cyfgau a'r prysyn. A'r prysynedau sy'n ffrindio'r cyfgau. Felly mae'n gweithio'n mynd i gwahanol i'r gwaith yn fwy o'r ymgylch. Mae'n gweithio i'r gwlad i Glasgow. Mae'n gweithio'n gweithio i'r stori. Mae'n gweithio i chi arbennig. fel maen nhw llawer o wahanol gyda'r ystyried. Despite that, the place was born in the place of the madness started? Well I was born in a place called Quantain East in Ngladzgo ydych chi'n mynd ei ffordd o Planas Cymru, 꺼wch y ddadyg Gwch chi'n mynd i ni i gynnwys, fyddwch ar enghraff o poffortau o ran y bydd. Felly dim iddyn nhw wahanol yn rhaid, byddwn ni'n Llavell ar y dyma, a lle mae'r maen y gyfan, mae phosod hynny i leidio dw i fach. dal os yn ystod, ac mae'r cymdeithas iawn a wnaeth yn angen meddwl, allan yr eich cyflwyn iawn, i chi i chi'n gwybod o gyfweld, o'n gwnaetgyntych, o'r cyffredingoch neu i chi'n gyffredin, ac mae'n ddiwedig ac yn fod yn cyddiwm o'r meddwl yn dod i chi, yn ffordd ac yn ddiwedig wedi gyrthu allan i chi gweld, ond mae wedi gyfweld yn cwyrdur arlaed i'r cantyn gan yna rhoi. Mae ddod yn gweld yn y sgol yw erosaeth, a rwy'n Nid yw yw'n gweld rhywbeth gyda'r wahanol, a'r cyffredinol yn chynhalo mewn gwahyddiad, ac mae'n ffordd yn ddyn nhw'n ddyn nhw'n beth sy'n oed yn y gweithio'r ffordd sy'n gweithio'r gweithio'r ffordd. Mae'r cyffredinol yn y sgwm yn bach yn gweithio'r hyffredinol, neu'n gweithio'r hyffredinol, neu'n gweithio'r gweithio'r cyffredinol, neu'r cyffredinol yn y pudel, ac mae'n ddysgu drwy'n edrych yn dda i'r pethau yn y cyd. ..a'r afedd, dwi'n mynd i'n edrych. Mi'n brifie, mae fel cael llion d姨ri a gwael yma yma, ..wyddyn nhw'n mynd yn cael rherwydd o'n mynd i'r ym מ״ed. Maen nhw'n cael y bydd hynny cyfodd i'ch twl insiedig. Gaen o ran y gyflwynedd y gwrs? Gwael y bydd y gyrdd mayfydd yma, ..en nhw'n fudd o'n wahanol hwn. Felly mae'n gweithio am Goedden, ..dyn ni'n meddwl ni'n meddwl ni. Mae'r maedyn i gwybod i'w meddwl y ddod o'r mhaedda mewn cyfnod o'r ru. Ieithi bod yn llwyr o'r dweud y hynny, amddwn yn 999 Gallwch Rhod. Fy mae'r maedyn i'w ddechrau i'w dweud, o'r hynny, o'r hynny. Mae'r ddweud yn grannu'n badaf a phobl o'r holl. Felly mwy'n ddweud ddim yn fwy. Mae'r bobl o'r holl yn ddweudio'r ddweud. Fe gweld i arferwys yn ffordd ac yn fadag, mewn dda. Nameis, am llwyddiad, hon. Mae'n bwysig iawn sy'n bwysig iawn yn ffwrdd i gael, ac ymddiannau'r gwaithgrifydd fel rhaid i ddweud. Fyddwn ar gyfer ei wneud iawn, fel y gyrddain yn bwysig iawn yn ddiddordeb�g, ac mae'r bwysig iawn yn gwy綩au. Proseswyd, mae'r fathau'r fathau, oedden nhw'n ddim yn gwaith, oeddwn wedi i eithaf nad oedd yn y huysfyr ym m talents mae'r fathau. Felly ac rwy'n gwrs o'i gweithio bod yn cythalwch, a cythalwch o'r llwyth yn Llasgol, ddigonwch y llwyth, ac mae'n rhaid o'r llwyth yn gondol. Rwy'n ei ddweud i gael iawn i mi ddweud o'r ddweud. Rwy'n mynd fydd ei gweithio bod yn ymgyrchol, a'r ddweud i gael llwyddi am 5 o'r oed yn ymddangol, ac rwy'n rhaid o'r oed yn ein cyfnodd ymddangol, ac mae'r cyfnodd ymgyrchol yn y ddweud o'r cyfnodd, Ac byddai wneud… Felly byddai'r gwahysig wedi eu cyd-dwyloedd. Felly byddai wneud yma. Felly byddai'n won am ghaerio'r lleol. Fe'n effeithio i gydynnu swyddfa fawr? Felly byddai'u eich club, a byddai'u'u club ond yw'n ei bod wedi'u ei ddweud. Mae'r newid i'n mwylo'n bwysig. O Daeth gwaith gyda chi'n ganddwyl, Diolch i'n fathion feddieng-wyr hyn sy'n unig'r fathion i'i wneud y ffarn o'r fathion gwybodaeth yn y glasgog. Nid oedd yw'n meddwl, i thwynt, ganhalau, ychydig… monitor y Pryddo gym. Yn mynd i rwyf, a'n meddwl gallai ynddangos, i'n meddwl gwaith gyda Fel Llyfrgell Yng Nghaerng, og ymlaen, sydd ar y bach oedd ysgrif ynghyrch. ythelmwch, Rhaidwyrdd Cranhwll, Cranhwll, Caysa, Easterhouse, a Cyfrwng Mow, a gwnaeth y gallwn i'r gartifau yma i'n bwysig i'r wych. A dyna, felly byddai'n ddechrau a chesaf o'r gandwyr ar hyn, i'n gael ar gyfer o'r lles yn bwysig, a'i ddechrau i'r ddechrau. A dyn nhw'n golygu'n hynny, ond mae'n rhaid i'r pwysig ar gyfer o'r gandwyr, Felly, fe wnaeth i'n meddwl gwaith yng Nghymru, ac yn ddiddorol, ond yn y gallwn gwneud o'r gwaith yma, fe wnaeth i'n meddwl gwaith yng nghymru, a wnaeth i'n meddwl gwaith yn ddiddorol, a fydd yn y ddiddorol, a'r ddiddorol yn y ddiddorol yn 1969, oedd y cythalonau cyngor wedi'i gwaith yng Nghymru, ac mae'n gweithio i ddiddorol yng Nghymru i gwaith yng Nghymru i'r gwaith, Nid yw gwirio ddefnyddio mewn gofio a gallai eu buswyr. Ond os byddai y flwyddyn, mae'n gofio arlai afiam, am y cwysbeth ychydig yn ein panffes ond o'r cyfnod. Diolch ar wneud'n meddwl yma? Mae'n meddwl am wahanol! Mae'r meddwl sy'n oeddeitio'r sprwysgol, oedf yn yw i'n gynyddiol yn y distressol. Rwy'n meddwl i'r swyffnad o'r llyfr, i'r llygw, oedd yn y maen nhw'n gallu'r llygw. Ac trafodd i'r relative i bwyswyr, Byddwn fyddiolwn yn cael ei ddeallon o hyn oedd eich Llywgr Wael, ond ei ddechrau i ddweud i'r gwrdd ffordd. Mae'n gwaith i'r bywll ymlaen, gyda'r byn oedol Llywgr Wael, a'r ffordd iawn. Chlaw pob eu ffordd iawn yn amdano, fynd yn ymgyrchu ar y byd, mae'r nghyddau yn gweithlool o'r nid iawn. A wedyn honno, fe'n gweithio'n cyfeiri am eich chyfafol yn digwydd adderol laethaid i'r byd. Rwy'n meddwl hwnnw ar ysgol. Rwy'n meddwl hefyd, Jay? Rwy'n meddwl hefyd. Felly mae hynny'n munci, yw gwneud y maewn amlwydig, eisiau, gyda'r cyhoeddfa. Rydyn ni, mae'n ddweud o'r newyddau. Rwy'n meddwl hefyd, i'w ddweud? Rwy'n meddwl hefyd, rwy'n meddwl hefyd. Rwy'n meddwl hefyd, mae'r brwrthi. Rydyn ni'n meddwl hefyd, mae'r bwrthi yn mynd i'r benedig. yn ystafell Amy. Mae'r llunyddiaeth ystafell yma, Abernidog, bydd defnyddio'r llunyddiaeth a'r llunyddiaeth melfon. Wrth gwrth gwerth yma, mae'n rhai gyswp o'i xiwnt gyda chyflwmpau yn ddechrau'r llunyddiaeth ymgyrch gymrydau lleol. Mae'n gwneud dyma'r llunyddiaeth sydd wedi coch paniaeth i gyllidwng. Mae'r llunyddiaeth, Datlbank, hynny. Mae'r llunyddiaeth yn yng Nghyrchgyrch, efallai mawr yn gymryd, yn y medicine, dechreu ddylch fel rhai. Mae'r gafliadau rhaedd! Dyma yw chi drwch, ddiweddwch i gynnyrch. Ddyweddwch i'w cyflwyloedd, a'r evolveur maen nhw'n gynnydd. Dyn nhw'n gwybod i gynnydd, mae'r cyflwyloedd, rydwch i'n rhaeg i'w hyn. Dw i'n bbwyto iawn, mae'r rhaeg i chi'n yn meddwl, wrth iddo am yr olygu yn ddwydd. Ond rhai, mae'r cynnig yw'r rhai. os y gallu ym repaired, ond hefyd ddim yn defnyddio erioed i'r newid. Ac felly rwy'n adnod wrth i'wmgyrch, rydyn ni wedi gynnu'n fath o y cyfanyddiaeth cerddurethu. Byddwn am 11 o'r 12 o'u ymgyrch. Cymr�au ar ddyliau hwn i'r llai amwneud. Maen nhw'n bod gydag i mewn siwr. Dwi'n meddwl fydd i chi'n ei bod angen. Rwy'n edrych ar yr hyn, oherwydd iddo o'r byu yn mynd i rai cyfanyddio. It was worth a word though, what I've told you. And they only recently there that I spoke to a parli main who was in St Joseph's just after the head left. And he was talking about Brother Busy, I said I've never seen that in a event. Go on get a newspaper for the library and you will see it. And that's when I read that it finally caught up withそ'n gwir me. Hey she says, Jonnie, no? He must be in his thirties. And how did you know then about it First time you wrote about it in your book. Well, you know, when I went to see the lawyer. When I went to see the lawyer, about, um... because I put a... I put a report on about it. Went to the police and put a report on. And the lawyer says to me, you know, I know you wrote about this almost thirty years ago, did anybody ever approach you? No, I said no. Nobody ever approached me. I mean, any of this at all. She says I find that amazing. And I said, well I don't. Mae gwaith ydym yn gyfail, mae'n gyflym, mae'n gyflym mae'n gwybodaeth eitwch chi'n wneud, sydd wedi gwybod o'r llamio ar y maen nhw, ond mae'n gwybod drwy fe at נilol, rwy'n gwybod o'r parod sydd yn gyflym, wrth gwrs o vaen nhw, stw 5 yw ar y maen nhw. Los yma, y maen nhw, wrth yma, byddoch chi eich imion ar hwnnw wrth gyfer sphwyl rhan, wel yma, bydd eich wirio yn gyflym. Mae'n holl o'n cael ei bwysig, yna chi'n gwybod hyfer hynw. 90-15 yng Nghymru. Yr hynny'n gweithio gwaith yn ymddangos. A dyna hildon ym Mhwysgol, dyna hildon yn Mhwysgol yn Lartysgol. Rwy'n oed 1973-74. A y fawr ganhefyd ym Mhwysgol, rwy'n gweithio gyda'r gwaith ym mhwysgol ym mhwysgol. Ym ymnas ym Mhwysgol ym Mhwysgol, ddechrau. A gydwch yr eich cwyrdd, gan y casgliadau a gwahanol iawn, mae'n ddechrau sy'n gyfathu'r berthynatau a byddai'r staff yn storedd. Byddai'n gwahanol erbyn'i bwysig, ac nid o'r ddiwylo'r cyfrifiadau, ac nid o'r gwahanol erbyn'i ffordd i ni, felly oherwydd, os y gallwch chi'n gweithio, dewis y peth yn ddechrau, a'n meddwl i'r pwysig yn cael ei ddefnydd. Mae'r ddwylo'r cyfrifiadau, dw i chi'n gweithio eich bod yn hir yw! Felly dylai nhw? Mae'r rhaid i chi? Mae'r gwaith ei yaynog ond mae'r wneid i chi'n gweithio o'r dyna chi'n gweithio o'i gweithio a gweithio. Dwi de nhw, byddwch a wnaeth ei qulêwyd eich bod yn agor, yna o'i gweithio o'i gwaith o'uAF yw iddo ddod, yn yion o'u wneud o ddod o'i cylliddau. Mae'r gwaith i chi'n gweithio a gwymiad. Mae'n cwestelio o'r ddod, a wedi gweld at wahead oedd gyda'i ar y hoed. Rydyn ni ddod i mynd. Rydyn ni wedi danol iawn i'r morhoedd. Yn y ffordd fachio, dobro. Addod o'r gweld i'w gweld i chi? Fodd i chi dweud o'ch gweld i yw? Ac rydyn ni fyddnau bod chi'n rhaid gyda mwy erbyn. Fel wyddo, byddwn ni'n nadrych eich bodi'ch mergynnu gyd, byddwn ni eich meddwl i'r gyrdd yn gyllun i'r llwydag, Ac mae'r bydwch chi wedi cael ei hunwch, roeddwn i'r bydwch mwyaf yma. Be'i ddweud eu gyda'r panigau i chi, oherwydd mae'r bydwch yn ei gwybod iawn. A ganddo, bod y ffordd o rhan fach a'i pethau a'r bydwch yn y dwylo, mae'n myfyrdd â'n bwysig o ddoch chi'n ffamilio ac yn y gwybod equitable o'r bydwch, ond mae'n cael ei ddweud mor hwnnog yn wneud. Pwysig e'ch grws o'r byd, oherwydd mae'n ganddo i ymddangos a'r bydwch. Okay. Mae'r ddechrau'n gweithio gynhyrch yn gweithio gyda'n yrhaed y Prifysgwrs Pwysigol. Mae'r gwasanaeth yma'r hyn, mae'r gweithio hefyd. Mae'n gwasanaeth efallai gwnaeth os o'r ddechrau gwrs o'r Pwysigol. Mae'n gweithio yn gennymau'n yelledg hon, Gweithio'n gennymau cwmno. Mae'r gweithio yn gennymau. Mae'r gweithio'n cymdeithasig i gyddi i fi. Mae'n oed iddyn nhw'n death gennymau lleol o'r aim. Mae'r cwmp MEG 12? ond ond hefyd. Rydynerodd droeddon am 14 o'n dweud oed ac rydyn ni'n hoffiened a tîm 36 oes. Maen nhw'n fydwyd ymmryd. Rydyn ni'n fyddi nid. Rydyn ni'n mynd i ddim yn fyddi i fych. Rydyn ni'n fyddi i fych i fych ar y ddi. Ut oedd y ddechrau i mewn y pethau, roeddaiff o ran rwych y têf yn dearadau ar y ddi yn dweud. Rwy'n clyta fydd i'r credu y plann y deilio o gallnd i ddechrau i gweld tu'r busau yn ysgol. Ac ydych chi'n gwybod yn ôl i'r buser, byddai'n gwybod i'n gwybod i'r buser, i'r Stirlun, i'r perffrysg, i'r prysgau, i'r prysgau, i'r prysgau, i'r hoffi a'r hefyd. I'r hoffi a'r prysgau, i'r hoffi a'r hoffi a'r hoffi, i'r Aberdeen, i'r Aberdeen, i'r Peter Heath. Felly, rwy'n cael ei ddweud yna yn y night yn y night oed yn gyfer y morfod, ond rwy'n gyd yn gweld i gyd yn dweud. Nghymru i'n hyffred, i'n gyffredig yn anhygonol, a'r hoffi i fenain o'r rhan o'r trofyddiadau i'r buser, yn dwi'n cael ei ddweud, i'm gyd yn gweld. Felly, i ddim yn y byd, i'n dweud, i'n ddau lle 18 o'n femwy yn y rhan o'i sut yn ein radio, a'r rhan o'ch fe wedi ei ddweud, yn y radio. Felly, ei ddweud i gweithio'r pets. Dwi'n ddi'n gweld i'n dweud, i ddweud unig o'i fynd i'n rhan o'n radio. Anyway, to the story, he got 18 months and the boxer still was getting better. Ddi I will not be with you through this I believe in my heart that I have had a made a series attempt for you I did go along with fucking you I was going to hang myself but I just couldn't face it and I was like yes man I was terrified to fucking hang myself terrified to Because I knew then that it would be like a shrapmle coming off a fucking bomb that would effect on my family It was fucking hard I was going to press the bell so you are going to get fucking me at the fucking house then I thought never am I going to get the fucking house Mae gael fel Sonny Lleach, ac ond yna gorfod gan Sonny, swydd dda'r gunain ynghylch. Ond ar y gwaith ynghylch ynghylch ynghylch ynghylch er mwyn. Rwyf wedyn yn ei gynhyrchu. Rwyf wedyn yn ei gynhyrchu. Rwyf wedyn yn ei gynhyrchu. Rydyn yn ei arwain yn ei gynhyrchu. Rydyn yn ei gynhyrchu. Rydyn yn ei gynhyrchu i re candidates. Llywodraeth yr hanes. Rydyn yn gallu eu rhai. Ond rwyf wedyn yn gynhyrchu eu rhai. Rwyf wedyn yn eich rhain am rwyf wedi bodai. We bought the fucking 1800 quid. Pure proper Malskinna. So we'd ought to use big duffel coats and grab this big lung. We got this along with Rodd. And this Pallid Medhaes, as he was running about the football field to try and find out this big train you used to work in when he was away back in the day. But it was all covered there in grass and what else. But anyway I found this fucking thing. So we went and got it. There's a big fucking bit of office I slaved me with a bit of that. W occupationalwyr, dyn nhw'n ochr o'r dyn nhw. Fy yw'r bod yn ychydig yn ymydd yw. Mae hi yn ymddych chi'n ffioedd o'r boileddau Diddorol am gwydd o'r gwaith ar gyfer y bydd y tu, yn ymddych chi'n gweithio'r mennyddiad, yn y bams a'r ymddug yn eich bwyd.няu y bams? Mae'n ei gweithio ddiddur fel y bams a ddau. Felly ble, mae hwn yn ddechrau rydym iawn. Mae hwn yn gwneud hwn yn ei ddadwg nhw. oherwydd ei chweithio i'r ddweud, ac yn ôl eich cyffredinol iawn. Mae ddechrau Iebu, mae'r cyfrwysbeth cyfroi gwn. Rwy'n cyfrwysbeth cyfrwysbeth cerddoedd. A'r ddechrau a chael gwneud yn elu ei gael o gyd, byddai'n gwych yng ngylliant. Oedd yn jei a'r Gwilwau, ond yn rhain, dim ni'n gyllidella iborneig, a'i dweud o ffrwysbethun a'r clywedon. yn y plnishmwynt block, mae'n beds yn gweithio, mae'n bwysig o gŵn. A llunegon mwy ychydig, mae'n bwysig ychydig, ond mae hi wedi potwch yma'r bwysig yn ddyfodd ac mae'n gwybwysig o'r bwysig, yn reddedig i'razujeid yn y bwysig wedi bobl, mae'n amser chyfodd pwy o'i amser, mae'n amser hynny ddill i'r bwysig ac mae'n amser. Byddwch chi'n ddysgu'r plwysig? Diolch i gynhau eu swyddo i'r llunio. Ond y gallwn hyffordd o'r cyfnod? Si pan o hun o Gwis a Pottes haf, ond i fod yu Vi an desu. Felly'r sef, ddaeth y galle gas o HP I-Bio. Radde grandmother, the guy who led them. It's Jimmy Boyle, and when we drank the bitter beet fruit, he took the prosecutor to the side and we put theGE greeted the scripture. fath o'n blaen yn gallu'r bwda'r bodd o fath o Aranzaol. Rwy o meddwl bod ddiniw wedi gael y bydd. Mae'r ddiniw wedi'i gael y penderfysgol sydd. Mae'r ddiniw wedi gael y penderfysgol, mae'r mae ddiniw wedi gael ddiniw wedi gael y byd, a'r ddiniw wedi ddiniw wedi gael y bydd a'r dibwyddoedd. Rwy amddarel, at gwrth gwerth fyddwch wedi gael oed yn ei. Ma'n gwneud hyn am gyda'r gweithio i'r penderfysgol. ac mae'n ddwych yn fyddwchinc, ond mae'r ddwych yn dweud o ddwych yn dweud o'r ddwychais gyda blai o pwysigol Ydw i fod yn eu ddeithasio ym môl'r ffwrdd? Ynna, mae'n ddwych yng Nghaerfod eraill ac mae'n fwrdd sy'n ddi sofi, rôl find mae'n bwrdd Dwy ffwrdd ym môl, mae ym ddysgu allan Un o'r bwysig arall? Mae wedi eu bod yn cael eu llunau gyda'r lle. Mae'r bobs. Mae'r bwysig arall, o'r cymdeithas, o'n gwybodaeth ffraeg. O bwysig amdano, mae'n gwaith y cefnod Ffraeg. Ffraeg hefyd yn fwy o bwysig, a fyddai. Mae'r cwyrwydd, os rydyn ni o'n gweithio'r llan. Fel siarad, mae'r rhaid i'r cyd-wyr, mae'r rhaid i'r cyd-wyr. Mae'r cwyrd yn cael eu cyfnod i'r cyfrwyr That was the one before you tried to escape? Jim was the one that was going to break me out of jail with us. He'd get 12 years for shooting a guy in the pub. And Joseph was the other one who got done for the screen was the one I broke out of you. So I broke him back in to Polyny. So Jim, what would you get for the shooting? Tom got the same as me at 12. And that was the one the day before you tried to break you out. So you were in the gyda? No, no, sorry. But we were in the gyda, but Jim was in Polyny on tried. So we were waiting a three, four month for each trial. Ond, wedi gweithio gyda mynd i'r hyfforddiant yn y ffordd y dyfodol. Bydd ym 10 oes ac yn oed i Glesgar. Felly, yn yr ystod, yn fawr yn ymgrifio'r ysgail a'r ystod i'r ffordd o'r hyfforddiant, pan oedd yn ei chwisio ar yr ysgrew. Felly, mae'n cael ei ffordd o'r byd. Mae'n ffordd cyngor i'r ffordd y dyfodol, mae'n gweithio a'r ysgwyl yn hyfforddiant. Mae'n gweithio a'r ysgwyl, ac mae'n fawr i'r ffordd o'r ysgwyl. To bwyd rydyn ni'n iawn. Ni'n ddefnyddio? Tach sydd ei wneud beth fyllai'r cyfrwng, rydyn ni'n ddefnyddio? Dw i'r gwybodaeth, roi ar amser ffordd... ...ad o ran iawn, dwi ddim fynd i'r gweithio'n ddeu! Llywodd wedi fynd yn y rhesgwp yn rwyf Sicf, dwi fydd yn digwydd ma'n roi ffilm. Te wnaid i'r ddeu! Mae eich gwaith a welding o'r dda digwydd! A fe fyddaeth y gallai ddweud wedi'i gand意? Mae'r ddweud, mae'n ddeu. ac yn gwneud o'rwch yn ystafell y mae'n sylfa wedi'i ei gwneud. Ond yn ystafell haemoneys yn ystyried i weithio. a ond o'r ystyried i weithio fath o'r wych. I gallwn fath fel fath o fathr yw'r wych a frieddol yn gychynwys, felly mae'n rhaid i'r ad disproportionately. Fe fydd yn ddechrau dyna. Dwi'n ei wneud i gofio. Felly mae'n gwych. Mae twchwch. Mae'n gwych, mae'n gwych. Aeth yn ddarityn. Mae gennym yneth... Eun bwch mewn iawn, ac yw'r wynaf, mae hi yn cysyllfa, rydyn ni wedi chi hefyd yn gweld pethuaeth i bobl. So rydyn ni wedi gweld yn ymwys i'r pwys. A bydd yn gweithio'n gwahanol, a fyddech chi'n iawn. A fyddech chi'n iawn, ac yw rhan o gwahanol. Ond wrth gwrs, y tu'r fawr, roeddwn yn gwahanol, i fod yn gwahanol i bwysig ar yr aion. So rydyn ni yn fwy iawn. A prosion y bwysig ar yr aion, a beth mae'n wedi maes pwysig ar y cyfnod. a dyna, y gofnir, y gofnir Andy Gallagher, rwy'n gweithio y byddai Strassberg, rwy'n gweithio y byddai gweithio y byddai'n gweithio. A dyna, mae'n rhaid i'r gweithio, James. Y gweithio y byddai'n gweithio y byddai'n gweithio yn 1979, y gweithio y byddai'n gweithio. Mae'r bwysig o gweld eich gweithio i mi ddod i ddweud, mae'n gweithio i mi ddweud. A yna eich gweithio i mi ddweud? Mae'n 12 o gyllid, mae'n 12 o gyllid. Oedd o'r bwysig o'r bwysig, mae'n bwysig o'r bwysig o'r bwysig o'r bwysig o'r bwysig o'r bwysig. Yr hwnnw, Peter haf yw ei gwneud ar y grann, dyna chi'n bwysig o'r bwysig o'r bwysig o'r bwysig o'r bwysig, So anywyd, he moves on, he becomes the number one governor in Baloney Prison, which is the number one head governor of all of Scotland. So anywyd, I'm still fighting the fucking screws. I'm still breaking the pens, I'm climbing the things that they think that I can't even climb the screws on the catwalk, on the roof and then they're damaged and they're usually fucking madness and fighting the screw. I would back up the court a couple of days later, and I say to John, defending myself, the lawyers like to me, but I'm free, I say you get to fuck. I remember you for the fucking right page, talking out there before your funky fucking trotty convincers to come down your country on the right, you get to fuck. I'm doing my own thing here, so I'm defending myself. So the judges like to me. It's for the jury and you know, it's like, listen, you're changing it in your solicitor here to back you up, you're on the day, but it could have a lot of work involved here. I'm in the fuck. I want my witnesses. I want Alfie Smith, who was the head governor. I want Chief Murerson, who was the chief marine. I want working Andy Gallagher, Slasher Gallagher, who was here in my line in Berlin. He said, I just say okay, when he went to recess, I was caught back up, and he said we want Andy Gallagher for that. I said that bastard Slasher Pal. I said, I need him in here to prove to be unreasonable doubt to the jury that it's not just the prisoners that is violent, the people are using violence and the fucking all liars. I say this country slashed my pal and the guys, and especially now. I've reported the matter to the police, the police, which he did, I don't know if I've sent the cop or something. I reported the matter to the police and the police are now investigating the matter. I've told them exactly what happened and I'm waiting to work back, but I want Andy Gallagher here as a witness. I want Alfie Smith here as a witness. They are condoning the conditions, extreme conditions in this prison, which is enough to make the same as guy go fucking mad. Therefore, it's not all one sided, and there's a lot of leeway on my part here, because I'm working under duress here, severe duress. I can't even go and pick a decent lawyer because the fucking lawyer is not drinking with a fucking governor. The governor and the lawyer and the secretary are fucking sitting drinking whiskeys in the office and they're fucking wankers. You can get yourself to the fucks, the judge is like me, I'm not swearing on this court. You know what you can do, but I apologise there. So now that's exactly what I've done. I went and defended myself, and I got out of the free yard, I found guilty for fighting me with the screws and the toilets and using the ball cup when it was there, for clubbing them in the fucking club in the country. Where did you get Andy, don't you? Then it was the free month, I got Andy, you know what I'm saying? What happened to the one in Soughton then, Johnny? Was it Jordan, get 25, yeah? Now Joe's got a live sentence. He got a live sentence when I was on the dirty protest, and he'd just after me and my brother jumped on a skateboard and somebody shouted for a cell block, somebody shouted for a hall. Johnny boy, did you hear, we heard the news, we've not got any fucking videos or nothing done there, we're fucking, we're loving it more than they came in. I said no, it's gone on. He said the ice cream wars was going at that time and there was a full family, the Doyle family were wiped out in a flat in Cranhill, yeah. Somebody had a lot of fire and a cupboard and a stereo in the fucking smoke wiped the poor family out, yeah. I mean, I get feedback from the hall, somebody shouted to me, um, Joe's was fucking, Joe's was arrested for the murders and I thought, never, never, never, never. So jumped a couple of doors in line for me. Yeah, so we're the mentee that is, as you can imagine, at this particular time, in the fucking place in the north where the cell blocks are at the commission and the screws in the hall can't get any more prisoners into the cell block because at this time there's nothing, there's nothing, they can't put us anywhere else, we've no windows, no bed, no fucking clays, no toilets, no piss pots, so anybody who's stepped out of the line in the main halls couldn't put them into the punishment block, so they had to do their punishment in the rain cell, you know, like a bed doing sort of thing, yeah. So anyway, in the ups, when Joe gets mad for that and my mum can't let you visit me and Jim, Jim, Jim being the older brother, setting my mind on my listening, it'll be fine when he goes to the court and I'll tell him my own ass and he's fucking tall like a shite, Jim. She was going, how the fuck we go here? The fucking biggest man's murdered in fucking modern times, Jim. She's going to the court, she's going to let him go to court and let him walk away. She's fucking going to get a jail here, man. It's going to take years for him to be good and murder you, and it couldn't have sounded right to come from me because I don't know what he's going to think, I'm the guy with the fuck top weed. And I'm saying, mother, you're going to need to be prepared for this. He's going to be fucking caught on with my own mother and fucking get prepared for this, it's going to be some fight to get him who he is. And we are not in a position to fucking do anything, we're lying in the jail, my dad's dead. Fucking some fight you've got in your hands kid, you know what I mean? And it turned out, he got to life sentence there. But Jim and I escaped for Balini. Jim was in, we escaped in 1980, June 1980, Sunday. I think it might have been the second of June Sunday when Balini, we came down for Balini for visits to go and visit my mother. And the screws in Balini didn't want to say, I could be ready, we're ready right, he's not in Peterhead. And so we had quite a fearsome reputation as a remortly crew when he took any shit, you know. So he goes to Balini and Andy Gallagher's now the head governor in Balini. Did he like it at this point? I liked it, but I'll tell you the story. I felt embarrassed while telling the story. And so we're doing that and the screws are threatened to go in a work to rule. This is just like a strike at the foot, you know, the foot. But they still have to come out to prison, you know. The work to rule means that it goes slow. They don't need to open anybody up for the down hall at the one time or the works. If it happens on a go, go slow, I mean slow pace, you know what I mean. So they go on, they call it a work to rule, and it goes slow. So here they want us at the jail. But before I had left for Peterhead, after I right, they split me and Jim and my pal Archie up. So I've got me in A hall and Jim and Archie moved to B hall, which is a lesser secure hall there. So I'm no sooner in myself and I'm sawing the bars in my Peter. And we've been told that a matter of weeks, a bar can show a will on to fucking to be able to behave myself, Jim and Archie will be allowed to come back to the same hall as me. And that's what you do is fine because that meant then we could all escape from myself one day. There, back to Peterhead. So anyway, I've done the bars. The bars are flat bars and they lie at a 45 degree angle. They're probably about 34 inches wide and they're painted a certain yellow. They're painted a yellow that, you know, if you're an artist and you're in Peterhead, you couldn't buy this yellow bent. You had to make your own yellow up because it was quite an outstanding paint show that nobody could paint their bars and anybody cut their bars and paint over. So anyways, I'm sawing the bars. I'm not hanging about a fuck this carry on man. I'm just not hanging about here on one. So I don't know. I don't like the Jim machine that's made on the bars. So what I had to do was you don't cut the bar straight through because the bar plays a tune. This is how it works right when the screws go into your cell to take their truncheon out and they hit each bar. So the top bar would go dink. The second bar would go dink. The next bar would go dink. There was one of the bars being cut that would go donk. So I don't know that tune. So the trick is to leave. Leave it on, to leave it, leave a bit on each side of the bar so that it plays the same tune. So anyways, I'm like Jim and I say right go and see the governor. The bars are done. I'm just ready to fucking go on. So I've got them all filled in me. Some sort of blue tack thing, wasn't it? Blue tack back in the day but some sort of putty and painted them over and so I'm ready. So I'm thinking they're coming to move in with me. So they go and see the governor and the governor says right, these are used to your going for visits to Bellini next week. Why don't you's wait till he's come back for visits and then he's going to move in with Johnny because Jim was getting put into my cell and actually my pal, he was getting put into his cell next door which was called an iron lung. So we'd already grafted the wall and the iron lung and we had it felt in with paper mashy. So is that when actually getting put into that wall and into that cell he could come through your wall and move and Jim would have laid in there and we could take the bars off and of course we'd make our escape. So anyways, I'm looking devastated. I don't know they're going for visits. I'm like never man, no way. I ain't hanging about here for another week Jim. Fucking way man. It can't be there. It's nerve wracking. You just don't know if somebody's going to come in and go ding, ding, don't or that's going to fall out and I mean I went no way man, never. Can't he date man? So I went fuck that. I said I'm coming down ways. So I went and see the governor and I went listening to the brothers and going oh no, no, no, no. You can't go. You never saved any visits up and you've got to write to the secretary of state for permission. I mean you know what, fuck you in the secretary of state. Fuck a lot of these. If I don't get done for visits, I'm like I'll just write your fucking jail. I don't want to punish myself. I'll just write your fucking permission. I'm not going to fuck to me. So that's big story. Big PO says to me, let me talk to you outside Johnny. Keep calm. Keep calm he's saying to me. No you've promised me if I can get you done for visits. You're not going to cause any trouble. Write down there. I said never fuck. I just want you done. If Jim's going to be done to Peter Hede to see the family, come if you Peter Hede to Billinot to see the family, then the family's still going to have to come up here to see me. So why not let me down and the family can see the two of the gyrr. It makes fucking more sense. You just try to fucking awry people anyway. And that's exactly what happened right. They'll let you down. No trouble. Don't you want that if he says to me, I say, oh you're fine. So anyway, we're done there. And a big fella, if he's like, how come you're doing a big guy called Tony Dallanmore? Tony's a trustee in Peter Hede prison, which means he can work about the place where he works with the screws. He can go in bold wars and he's going to fall really to jail, but he's way the boulders, the screws, you know. So anyway, it turns out that big Tony, Tony come down to Billinot enough by passing one of the passengers on one of the workshops on the down hall. And he's outstanding, big Tony. He's about six feet five with pure red hair, you know. He's like, Johnny boy, I need to talk to you man. I need to speak to you, go to the Reconyte, you know my heart's sanging, I went never man, fucking never. I knew, I felt it, I went there, fucking no way man, I see the country found my bars. So Jim is like, just calm down, you know, no. So big Tony, I meet him that evening, he's like, don't go back up the road, be man, he says to me, I went never Tony, and he went don't let him join me, they're waiting on you. He says, I've heard the barsters talking, they found your bars and they went to the governor. The governor, Billinot, he's on the phone to the governor saying, get down here and get these coming back. My staff are fucking no having this. They want them to fuck it as deal. So the governor, the governor at Peter Heads who was George, sorry, the governor at Peter Heads at that particular time took over and they like her, but the guy called George Dingell. So he's reassuring the governor and the staff in mind, not at all. These fuckers think they're escaping from here. They think they're pulling the wheel over, or are they? He's that bastard saw these bars. The brother thinks he's getting moved in with him. The steam fella thinks he's going in that door, we're already grafted through the wall. So just keep quiet this letter about this lady, they think they're going back up here and they're going to escape. So anyway, that's satisfied the screws doing the millennia. It's satisfied them that they'll fight for that, just on the bars. So they know there's going to be an escape, but they're now being reassured that the escape is taking place in Peter Heads. So anyways, and they don't know I'm aware of this information. Yeah, and I'm like never do you know what you mean to get to fuck out here mate. I was feared they were going to come and take me, but it turns out that I find it later. The only reason they were took you away to Peter Heads Johnny is because that had a left gem in Archie and they were terrified that they'd have caused a riot in millennia and kicked off. So they went, you can just keep quiet. They don't need to know we're onto them. Yeah. So I was like, nice one, Tony, cheers. So I say that wasn't a Thursday or something or the Wednesday that Tony had told me this and I was so fucking desperate and I went on and he got me like an ASAP man. So I find a way, I see that, I find a way for Balini, for Beehall and Balini, Tartflat, up isn't a pal in the Tartflat. I'm not meant to be on the Tartflat because I'm in security, but I've slept on. And Jim's not meant to be in the Tartflat. He's not meant to be in the Tartflat or the Boltonflat. He's got to be either in the Second Flat or the Third Flat because he's in a security prisoner. So one of my pals says to me, look on here Johnny, get up. So anyway, I've gotten into the showroom and you have relations at the end of Balini, put on the 70s and we opened this door that the screws are allowed in here to regulate the water hot and cold for the two shivers that's there when he's landing. So it looks something to see this, this grill, this steel thick heavy metal steel grill, great for this big brass padlock going at this fucking series looking past look, you know. So I was like to the guys, paliwyrs of my gaelic, I like how it and another fellow they were past me at the time. I said you can get that padlock off now, I'm fucking get it off all right. So they spent a couple of days showing this and they couldn't get that, they fucking, they stripped the inside of this padlock where there was nothing, they couldn't, they kept going screaming, they couldn't get it on to the end up, they cut one in the barrels. So anyway, we know the bar's bent back and it started at night, we know the bar's done, bent right fucking back in order to put one at the door lower. It's a lock up at five o'clock Saturday and Sunday, you know, for the rest of the next morning. Anyways, on the Saturday the screws got a fright, because the hearth's up was going to go down, so now we opened the door at seven o'clock for the cocoa shift to give you a cup of tea. I said you know the screws, we were looking right here, they're coming, never mind, fucking tight, they're tippled, I thought they'd tippled to the, to the bars that had been cut in the tap flat in the shower room, but it took you on to the flat roof, a blyny, and I thought never man, never, never fucking gutty, didn't really gutty, don't I mean? I thought never. Anyway, we piled in my guy called Alec Felton, he's next cell to me, and they put pipes running through the cell walls and blyny, and someone would be gafting them, and he could sit down there and communicate with each other, he's like something's going down Johnny, he said you see the concert, there's some mountain man, I thought fuck it. So he knows that I'm having a dash in the morning, and I went never man, it's all over me, and I saw, I had a couple of photographs of my family, so I put them through the pipe in a newspaper, opened it, passed them through in case anything went wrong, I said I don't have to take photos for me. Anyway, oh quiet man, Sunday morning, screws opened the door and it just, I don't seem to be normal. Slop out, eh, nae, borah, oh, so anyway, the tick, tacksie he said I've mean Jim, I'm on the second flat, Jim's on the second flat, and Archie's on the third flat, so the clock teacher all seems to be well. So anyways, I can't get to the tat flat, cos Jim's already asked to screw on Newerland and to pick him up, just to swap a book with another guy, and probably because Jim's reputation mewn i'r hels o'r sgwyl was fucking probably fairly saying oh, when you go, Archie's made his way to the tat flat, so I don't need to make my way to the fucking bottom flat to take the fucking, so it didn't look suspicious, and actually into the shower and the bottom flat and the same door applies, you know, the two showers is in this thick door for, this wooden door to regulate the water, but then that's as far as you can go, but at the side, at the side, the right hand side of the door, there's a shaft that goes for the bottom flat right up to the very tat hole, you know, so if you were up the tat flat and we could talk to each other through this, through this ventilator shaft, this shaft, you know, it was, and inside this shaft was pipes and fucking pipes and mere pipes, ah, so anyway, ag is in, bang, in, shut the door over, and I'm climbing, I'm climbing like a fucking rat, like I can't even move, you know, you're talking about a gap, that James, you know, maybe fucking, maybe a feet if it was a, and maybe to be skinny, why, they can't know what my right up and I can hear all the shillars, if I'm going past you, he's landing, I can hear the guy's talking about my hallucinations, so I mean, so I make my way to the tat and Jim and Archie's are ready in there, ah, yes man, so anyway, me being a skinny is, they've punted me up through the big steel grill, a stick steel grill, so once I've gone to steel grill, I've got a wooden dirty content here, flat door and now, so I put my back against it and if I could go to the thing over here, man, had a glorious day for Glasgow, man, sunshine, I don't think I'd ever been that high a point in Glasgow as I've ever been, was on that bit of that roof here, fucking slow city was basking, you know, we're talking at a cult in the morning, I'm afraid, ah, me, we're leaving, yeah, we, ah, and even the matter, I thought we'd get caught on lock, it had a direct place anyway, so anyway, we're out there, we're on this flat bit of a roof, which is adjacent to the big halls or the big massive chirmies and that, never man, fucking, you can't, you're scared to look, you're going to the screws, down below, they're all about to work, we can see them come out of our closing, and they're looking, that went, never, fucking hell, so I keep Mae'n meddwl, mae'n meddwl, mae'n meddwl. Is that the first time anybody's ever escaped from Bolinny? I dunno, somebody say that to me, but I couldn't imagine that. Mae'n meddwl, mae'n meddwl jyent. A esgatio da i Peter, mae hyn yn meddwl i Bolinny. What happened with Joel when he escaped down for Sotton and he, did he glue himself to Buckingham Patleyn's fence, protest? When we, when Joseph got done for the life sentence, I was down in the hill byrn mai 1982, 1983, I started a long way to go, my friend sent him, Felly mae'r gwaith yw Joseph. Joseph was even younger than mean heid. Joseph was just, I don't know, I don't know any Joseph. But he wasn't like us, you know what I mean? And I knew he needed a lot of help to fucking fight this fucking case. You know what I mean? I thought never do man, this fucking man would like to fight your life mate, you know? And fucking need to put it on hold man, to fucking find it hard to stop escaping, I can't idea. I fucking can't stop writing. I can't even kill my mother eventually, you know what I mean? And I met Joseph and he slapped me a Gillette razor blade. The old Gillette razor blades, the old steel, tungsten steel ones. I said get me a cup of blades Joe. I said thanks for all my stuff. I was up in the cages and I was going back and I was going to cut the bars there. And it wouldn't have mattered if I wouldn't have been able to escape or not. Because we were in your cage. There's a mirror outside your cage. Mirror's that size, say about 12. 12 would be 12, 10 would be 12. And I often thought there was a fucking camera behind that. You know, because there's no purpose in the mirror being there. You weren't allowed a bar of soap in your cage. You weren't allowed a fucking toothbrush. You weren't allowed a comb. You know what I mean the fuck? I thought it was spying on us. At least it had mirrors, the cameras. Anyway, Joe gets me a couple of Gillette blades. And I'm like oh no, they may fuck it. So I've wrapped them in fucking and packed them up in my back side. They'll wrap up and they'll be tribb. So I get up to back up in the cages. The thing is with the old Gillette razor blades is I made the tungsten steel. And tungsten steel back today was probably the hardest steel you could get. So, and of course the bars, the bars are an inch in diameter up there on your cage. So I managed to get a, I managed to use the taping my Gillette steel handle to unscrew a brass screw nail on the back of the toilet door in the cages. So this big brass fucking screw nail a bit, two inches. So when I get back to the cage, when the time was right, I had a steel table on the cage. So I put the razor blade, I put the Gillette razor blade on the very edge of the steel table and we strike it repeatedly with a brass screw nail so that it becomes serrated. And I would turn the blade over and did the exact same thing so that the actual razor blade would look like a hacksaw blade with a serrated, and that's how we used it. That's how we managed itself through the bars up on the cages, number nests, and eventually we got through, but we got caught before we got through the wall. But I managed to get that mirror off and it fuck all behind. That was all psychological. How did you learn all that? All the knives and, is that just people in the jail or did you read that? No, no. I'll come see me. It comes to me. No, it is. It's not. People think you're a fucking, you're a genius at escaping, it's not. It's not. But it must be, man, because you've escaped from a fucking jail in Scotland. It's fear. It's a lot of the fear and fucking paranoia being locked up in claustrophobic. You're claustrophobic, I was just about to say that. Yeah, but you couldn't tell anyone you were claustrophobic. They took you to the lighthouse of Jameson. Yeah, there was no checks and balances made. How did you get on my red? Because I know you were doing a documentary with Ross Kemp. Yeah, well, funny. How did that go? I was talking to Ross about... I'm in there for one particular reason. Ross wanted to know about the escape, because class is Scotland's way to escape at the time, man. You know, calling us a Blinnie Tarrens, or Sass style escape, you know. So I was in there talking to Ross, and I was right outside, funny enough, strangely enough, I was right outside the hall, B hall, looking up to the very spot, where I dabb still clean half, you know, and Ross was saying, fucking hell, Johnny. You know fear. I said, I've heard this, but you don't know fear, Ross. I said, I mean, fucking don't know fear, mate. I said, only because it was fear. I mean, the ones that were left behind, the guards, because that escape caused a hell of a hollow below, and as much as there was screws demoted, there was a serious, serious crime squad investigation into apparent brise being taken by certain screws in there, and... What's that? Well, you know, all I can say to you, this game, have you ever heard that any prisoner has been granted immunity from a prison after escaping by the security estate of Scotland? Yeah, we were granted immunity. Yeah, me, Archie and Jim, because the cop was wanting to, I was to give you a statement as to who took the bribe. Yeah, and when we got caught, you know, they kept me in my cell first, and Stuart Street, Glasgow, fear brought on the same time, and they said, right, Johnny, we don't give a fuck about the escape, we don't give a fuck for the land of my poor sister, so you get a year for harboring me, yeah. We don't give a land on, don't give a year, and they can't, we want the barcels that took the bribe. And I said, well, you know what, I'm going to position to give you a statement. I'll get fucking strung up, and I'll go back to Bellini, and they went, we'll make sure you don't get strung up. Man, how the fuck are you going to make sure that? I said, we've got a trick, we've got a plan. He says, right, if we go and get Jim and Archie and bring him up, we talk about it, and I'm like, yeah, okay. So anyway, they goes down, where I went down the cell at the Loneschurch Street police station, and the serious crimes brought Jim and Archie up, and we were all shaking hands with each other, and working hard to make sure. So I'm like, I said, see her, these cunts are fucking demented to you, I'm winking, can I, I don't know where to place you? I said, I've been asking me to give the name of a big bootstree, I stuck them in. They're asking me to give the name of a bootstree. And I went, oh, I'm saying fuck off. So they went like, right, okay, don't say fuck off. So we decided to call the screws up there, so they come up and they come up with a packet of cigarettes and a lighter and we were sitting in the cell, you know, and they were talking about what could possibly happen to us, because we were going back to Blinnie, right, and we were going to court the night of the day for the escape. How long were you on the run for? Three weeks. We were going to court the night of the day for the escape. So the lawyers came into my cell and they were like, I'm here to arrest you now, you fucking represent me, you're a filthy fuck, fucking pleading not guilty. Fuck off. He's like, pleading not guilty. You fucking whole country knows your escape, you're on your son and get a fuck, whole country's telling lies. I'm not having a lawyer. I'm pleading not guilty and that's the dialect we've done it. But anyway, after the court case, the cop was coming and saying, right guys, we're taking you to Blinnie. Somebody wants to meet you there. So no, it's probably about six o'clock, seven o'clock. We've got an unused Westcourt. Straight into Blinnie prison in the back of a serious crime squad. A vehicle, never had to hold up under the guns of the cop with a serious crime squad. Takes us into the deception. When the screws are in the deception, they're waiting in the fucking region. You can see them, they're loving it. They want to kill us, you know what I mean? The fucking staff are the worst. Some of their staff have been the most... Did they kick the fuck out of you back then? No, I know that at no end. The cop was with him and that, but I don't know the way of it. I can read it, I can make a comeback. I don't want to put it in the shit. But they dig the terrible dunes out back then and yesterday and they did, aye? So anyway, the publicity of this fucking escape carry was fucking tremendous. It was fucking, it was all in your favor. It was fucking everybody was loving it, you know what I mean? But the bribe part wasn't it? It wasn't going too well with the turkey either. So we tried starting the reception, maybe it shines over at my jail gear. It takes us into this building. Just across the beehull and aehull where we escaped from. You know, I see the screws all surrounding when the building, the turnkeys and all. I thought it was going to happen to your man. I thought we were getting done in. Fucking off a number to your man. I thought we were getting set off when I wanted to get whacked. Yeah, so anyway, you get something that's like, in you come, but the turnkeys outside that surrounded the building, weren't they allowed in the building? So we were in his room, James, and there's a table and chair there. A large table, with two chairs on one side and three chairs on the other side, on the other side. So we take a seat and hang about five, ten minutes and then walks this chap. We have a beautiful big dolly bird who turns it to be his secretary. And he turns it to be Skeen. He was one of the main procurators in Glasgow. He was a man stamped toward the indictments, officially stamped an indictment to go ahead. So he says, Listen, guys. I'm used to me. He says, listen fellas. He says, um, I believe there's something you want to tell us. And she fucking told you that. He went to them. You know, she was sitting there and we were on the ball. We were on the ball. I mean, I was listening. I fucking can't tell you. But you want to know I should get killed in the dead of night when you fucking make it through the night, mate. He says, listen to me. He says, you should be safe. He says, when you leave here and you go back to your hall, when you're all going back to A Hall, E Hall, sorry. And you'll be in a cell next to each other. One, two, three cells right adjacent to each other. They've took their locks off and put on special locks. There's special guards outside your door that nobody else can get access to except for the guy with the key. And if anybody dares attempt to get anywhere near you, they'll be going to the fucking jail as well. So what I'm saying to you is you should have been granted immunity to the estate for Scotland. And you should go back to any secure jail that you so wish. But he's the statement after you. So he says, well, listen fellas, we're fucking on a possessing gear statement in our era. And he says, well, why is that? Because we've got TC Cabels and he's lying in the untried for the jailbreakers. And you've got Shadda Lafferty. I said, two relatives, TC and Shadda, two relatives there. You've got them lying in the untried for the jailbreak. For the head and the betters in the break. And they had nothing to do with it, of course. I mean, they had nothing to do with the jailbreak. So why should we use the statement? He's going to fucking fit them up and verbal them up to gain a conviction. They all work. No, no, no, we don't work that way. It's as you're talking to me. We broke up with these. We know how these work. He fucking fit them up with explosives in five years. So we know how it all works with coppers fitting people up. It's policy. So anyway, so they were only too happy. We said, well, we'll give you the statement once TC and Tommy Campbell, once TC and Shadda go to trial and bear in mind we were witnesses at the trial. And he's like, right, okay then, you mean that? I mean, of course. We're still granted immunity. He's about here and there too. Anyway, trwy, the word die, March is right here. It's a fucking silly screen squad. I'm presented right in the hall. They're still in there. They were two-dup. They weren't hiding nothing. And they were walking, nor they were walking through two top men and got his police force and their wee crew, nor two-dup. So I don't think they were just fucking there to intimidate us. I think they were letting the fucking crew behind us, the screws, no. The most powerful fucking gang in the fucking country next to the coppers, the POA. I think they were letting them know, hey, I don't try any fucking nonsense words. Anyways, he put it into ourselves. Coppers, Croydon, Schubert, Hans, congratulaties on the escape and the real shit, you know. But I still think he's a crazy gun to court and plead not guilty. He could be denied that court plead not guilty to fucking judge. The judge just fucking, you know what I mean? The judge like, hey, if you prefer, you know what I say? I've got 150 fucking.... They say that I never skape for any deal mate. Just... That be a gaffer lock here, he wants to pose it. Just, just put the sus in one trial, Jim. Anyways, Andy Gallagham's in the next day. No, what happened was before Jim got caught on the Saturday, a man was going to tell us a story. He'd be saying in news they've got Jim and that's what another man, the fucking bros, Ac oes wef ddim yn gweld i'n meddwl fel hynny yn y cyflod, ac y ddim yn tryn o'n meddwl teimlo'n meddwl eu bod nhw'n meddwl. A yw'r gweithio yn ymgyrch ar ei ddefnyddio gyda ddim yn y ddweud, ac rwy'n meddwl i'r gwneud yn y ddweud, felly oes i'n dda yn y ddweud, a ti'n gwylliant, a oes i ddweud i'w ddweud! Ond oes, oes i ddweud i ddweud i ddweud i ddweud i ddweud i ddweud, a oes i ddweud i ddweud, Ie, go on the run and take the fight right fucking back to him, hunt yourself in, in style, make a fucking, David Nacon else he'd have done before Joe, wouldn't he fight these kinds of things? And when did the day? Joe ended up then 16, then 16, yeah. 16, yeah, and it was proved, I got it not guilty after, I'm not proved. But after that I had to go back and break him out of his Auckland, I did promise him, I said I promise you Joe, once you hunt yourself in, I guarantee you'll have you to find a year. I promise you brah, but you must hunt yourself in Joe, so you're defeating the person you don't brah. You need to take this fight to him. Did they struggle with it to hunt yourself? They did died, it's fucking, it's a shame you know. But nevertheless I had to be done. So anyways, a couple of months later, and I'm up visiting him, I said right, I'm coming to get you. I'm going to come get you, so we know how we're going to do that. So anyways, I'm up, I mean my pals, we've cut the fucking fence and I'm lying back in the field and I'm watching through my knuckles and I can see them on the football field there. I can see the screw, I can see the screw walking by you know, and so Joe knows exactly where the fence is cut in a big hill shape. So I'm lying there with my knuckles, so my pals like to me, listen Johnny, I mean what is it? They went fucking sighting, we better get to the fuck. I went, it's cool man, you know, I didn't think they'd know about this. If that was the case, the football field would be empty, the fucking old jail would be locked down. Nah, cool, but he was panicking, please, just in case they're odious. So we left the scene, just saw the prisoner come to the football field and I've got a guy waiting on a cattle wagon out in the main street to pack your jaw up when he gets through there. So we go back and we find out where the sign is and we go away and it turns out that the screws club where they drank had been broken into. Yeah, so the cutler's meant to investigate that. So anyway, we dashed back and I'm fucking back in the position, I'm looking through the binottles and I'm like, there's still no movement, they can't make a move. I'm like, oh, hold it, hold it, hold it, there we go. There he goes. Nice one, brad. I'm like, you're not fucking, that's no joke. I went, the fuck is that? Oh, here he comes now. I went, fuck, who's that man? Then I went, nice one, there he goes. That's definitely how I'm doing, that's no amirah. I'm like, here he goes again, I'm at this time. End up 60 of me escaped. When we went to investigate the break-in for the screws club, we'd missed Joe. The guys gave Joe a 20 minute start before they, sorry, when they fuck up, it went wrong. So anyway, I said, let's get the fuck, man. Fucking, I was looking from the car and he said, I don't know what's happening because I'm on a communicator. I don't know Joe, so the guys got the phone. So we'd next back out and into your in-car. So we're driving down, I was like, pull here, pull here. I seen this kind of soaking, because you've got to run through a stream to the bit they were escaping from it. So I seen this kind of soaking. I pulled over and I knew by the clays that he was a deal-burner. I went here, pull, I said, I'm Johnny Boy Joe's bras. I said, where the fuck is he? He said, we give them off when you're starting, you know what I mean? He's got to use a lift and we're driving along the road and I'll be back. Now he pulled in, there in my bald, where his brother was, the two boys for Edinburgh. Men don't be fucking picked for you. And dropped him off in Edinburgh. So anyway, he's got a few weeks. And we make our way back to Glasgow and Jim's waiting there at the football park. He said, where is he? I went, he's fucking out, Jim. I went, I said, where is he? I don't fucking know where he is. Fucking 16 of an escaped man. I don't drop them cunts off over Edinburgh. You fucking kid me on that. Fuck, it's a phone call for a Pallyman. He's right, Johnny Boy, I've got Joe here, he's on the chair. I'm just about to chop his hair off. And he'd hair like you. And I went, don't fucking touch it. Because if he took his hair off, he'd look like a fucking serial killer. One of these faces. Don't touch his fucking hair, man. Because we're going to use him for publicity stunts. And so anyway, we've got the BBC. I've got a wee crew that I became Pallyman. I've done a documentary on me. And it just took a shine to me, this guy in his family. I've got Johnny here. I've got 37,000 acres of land up in the guile. I've got cottages there later. You take a cottage and come down to your family and enjoy your life, I mean. So anyway, contact someone. I said, what are you, Joe here? He went, Johnny, we're interested in a documentary. Can we come on board? I went, yeah. So we ended up on the islands. Me and Joe ended up fucking islands over Scotland. One particular McCormack Islands away by Dura. But we met the BBC. And we gave them the coordinates. We were already camped up where I may have turned up. This is Wales on the run? This is Wales on the run. I kicked around the doors of North Scotland, didn't I? We were out on an island, yeah. So anyway, a funny part here, a funny bit for you. So Joe's sitting here and I'm hiding. I'm putting bail. I've been done for fucking the breakouts. So the coppers woke me in the cop shop and right in the light to me right, what the fuck? And I've been working out the day with me. I don't fucking know what he was, mate. So I let you please bail. So I've got a big girl and a lot of fishermen. And I'm sitting on the island with Joe. When these guys are talking to him. Why can't he say fuck off? I'm fucking thinking now he's coming to please bail. And we're going to come back in pounds from here. But anyway, they're talking about the escape and Joseph gave them a story of just why he was doing what he was doing. You know, why he was bringing it up for the mother of the six fucking people. He said, I've also looked to Mrs. Doyle before I escaped and told her I was going to escape. And if anything, she said nothing to worry about. And if Paul is trying to put any shit in her head and have nothing to do with the death of your family, I'm now fighting for my own fucking life. And I'm fucking sorry what ever happened. You know, that kind of way, you know. So anyway, we had that big crew for six weeks. Four is about four six. We're on the island. Hi, we're on the island. So the guys like to Joe. Can I hide and burn mine? I'm fucking hiding my big crew. We don't want to fish them and the guys like to Joe. Must be awful lonely here Joe on your own. And he went, I know you heard it. I thought fucking never. The sheep on the island. He's like, cut, cut. He's fucking making all my sheep. He's your man. Anyway, what we're going to do is when we get back to the mainland and I was like, right Joe, what would be my day here? Why don't we just fucking go back to Socton? When everybody's out in the football field just walk right up there Joe, we are changed. I still saw and fucking blast the fence and walk right back in again. I said, not fucking give them something to think about. I know how a lot of reporters are waiting there. I mean, you just can't something to think about fucking what you play fucking. So anyway, it's like a great idea. So a phone to the necessary people. John actually said, I'll be fucking classy. You see you pull as one, I'll be fucking classy. No one ain't like that. So in touch with another guy in the guys, like to me he said, I've got a phone call for Andrew Coyle, he was a governor, a doctor Andrew Coyle. He's now in the prison department. So I was having Jimmy Boyle, always kept in touch. So now I kept in touch with Jimmy. So Jimmy's like, Johnny Boyle, he says now I'm going to believe it. Andrew Coyle. And he goes like, Jimmy, I've had a fucking, I've had a bad dream. He said, the Queen's Company unveiled a snack you and Edinburgh in the Morrow. And I fucking hope she didn't pull that fucking veil off on Joe Steele's side. So they had the order of security around. That's how bad it was. They had the order of security. And they turned out we never done that. But anyway, it turns out, we done a documentary and we finished that. We done it in your house with a family get together and Joe and my lad were all greeting. So Joe's in agony by this time. Joe, I don't know what's wrong with him. He's kidding. He's a mortal agony. So he feels just if he's wanting to go to the hospital. I said, we can't protest in the hospital, Joe. So that's a fucking no, no. So why don't we go to Bellini? Which is only up the road. We're only half a mile away from Bellini. Right? Why don't you fucking go to Bellini, Joe? Climb up that big fucking tower right outside the front gate with a camera on it. He went, okay, I'll go for that one. And that's what we've done. So we've done it in the street. We've done it in the street. And I held a black hack. And I go to that guy, mean Joe jumped in. And they were all heading up. They were all heading up in the motors with the convoy and all the protesters. So I held this black hack. And there is fellas in that. And he's like, he's gone. But I said, take us up the bar, pala. And he went, ah, anyway. I said, where you going this best? I was just seeing the mirror and I said, I know where that cunts face was coming from. So anyway, didn't he say nothing? He went, and this is the truth. I said, I'm just back from holiday. He says, before I left, he said, that'd be Joe Steele and that done the escape. We said, you know, do you know they've caught them? Yeah. I said, fuck off. I went, I don't know, pal. But he was halfway up the fucking aisle to Bellini where the big gates are. So I went back to the guy because Joe's up to the front gate. So I'm halfway up to, you know, the aisle. I'm taking up to Bellini gates. I'm maybe 200 yards from there. I said, just pull there and let me out, pal. So I threw Joe the score. And I went, get fucking for that guy. I said, take me up with that pile. I went up there and met. Yeah, the next fucking thing, Joe's up with the pile. I'm going to protest and welcome out the car park. We were already meeting that fucking big banner. So the next thing, the taxi drivers come back and doon. Doon, doon, doon, doon. But it turns out the guy says to me before I go to the taxi, I've got a cousin that was in Bellini. And I'm looking at him and I'm like, he's going to say Jimmy Boyle. Can you look like Jimmy? And I went, have you said he's got a cousin that Jimmy Boyle was in there? And I went, all right, then number two come on out. No. Anyway, Joe's up there on the fucking aisle. Joe was shut down on the screws. I was looking at the TV crew. Nothing comes out of there. I'm a spectacular fucking break-in. I broke him out of the stop and broke him into Bellini. And the next thing was the taxi driver coming back doing these fucking waving up there. I got a phone call for Jimmy Boyle the next day and he went, you're Johnny Boyle. He said, do you know who that was? His fucking cousin. Fuck's sake. Mate, your stories are unbelievable. Has anybody ever contacted your idea following a proper documentary about them? Yeah, we've done a couple of documentaries. A couple of people have talked about filming, but I think we're just fucking far away. And the stories are fucking unbelievable. Obviously, when you've been through and all, we can laugh, kind of laugh because obviously laughter's the best medicine, but when you've been through for a young boy, how has your mindset now? It's all fucked up, gents. Do you ever get help? Yeah, no. There's nobody in my life to help you. It's too far. You're never too far. Even though it's prison breaks. I'm good at helping other people. People don't expect you to need any help. But you tend to the ones who they help. Everybody else is a land that always needs the most help. But for even the prison, you sound like a fucking genius. It's unbelievable what you create. I'm seeing a councillor right now, actually, for the lawyers put me on a councillor. They organised for a councillor to have 20 sessions. For councillor, for what happened in the Friskill. You know what I mean? Never, never then. I was mad. I was mad. I was mad. We were talking about it early. We had a guy, Tom Urie, an actor on. Before Urie, that's the second podcast we've done today. We were talking about 95% of the suicides in our mail in the UK. We don't talk about our feelings. We don't talk about our emotions. That's where all the aggression and all the anger. We're too manly to say we've got problems with our feelings. Do you regret it that you've done? Do you change it? You know that's never ever going to happen. You're never going to get in that position to say I would change it. It's just a fantasy answer. I mean it's a fantasy question. I'm going to surprise you, mate, if you could go back and change it. The stuff that you've done. I'm still going to mess it up. I've still got a lot of bit of anger in me. A lot of bit of anger. Frustration. Angus your anger. I know blocks were already years and you're that much hatred in you. I know you can think about it as murder and scruising your families and wives and then we're out there and things seem to be nice one day and the next fucking day. I'm not fucking mad then sitting here and they're working the beach mass killing these fucking... It's not good, mate. It's good that you're getting healthier but everything you've been through there's I think we can go maybe I've already done that. I've done a debate in Milliney there not so long ago. I've done your talk to your icons about how to survive. I'm also in my second book. It's called Scots on the Rocks. Scots on the Rocks? People love that. Where can people buy your first book? I'm quite sure it's on Amazon now. Amazon, A Bird that Never Flew. The title is actually The Bird that Never Flew. The Bird that Never Flew. I was reading bits of it the last few days. I know you're coming on, man. When's the next book out? I'm still working on that. I'm quite fortunate that I've got a... Some of the stories I'm writing about that the guys are still alive and I'm working on their stuff now. My own stuff, main jailbreak, for me and my brother Jim and of course Joseph's jailbreak. Another big guy I might be introducing to you one day. Sunday week's called The Socted Harrier. That's when he actually escaped out of prison wall. A number five or something on the back of his vest. A pair of shorts on the pair of jail boots. Trapped off a 20 feet wall. Done. Run into a corner a couple of miles and run into a police roadblock. Stoke to him and he said, have you seen these guys? The guys that was in the photograph was saved lords for Black Hole family. A well-known family in Black Hole. He said, no, I'm not seeing them. Ten men, later the police came up to the roadblock and said, have you seen this guy? He just ran by his ten men. He's got few stories to tell you. He's a character. He's a real character. We've thoroughly enjoyed your story. No doubt we could talk. We've been speaking on the phone the last couple of weeks. Your stories are unbelievable. Obviously from what you've done, you're getting help and speaking to other people. It takes massive courage, man. To try to get change and try to get help. Fair play. I really appreciate you coming on today. It's been brilliant. I really appreciate it. I'm free to go now. You can't escape though. Anyway.