 We need the airport commission at 403 p.m. on 21st of September. The first item on the agenda is the agenda. Do I have a motion to approve the agenda? Any discussion? Any votes? I don't see anyone. We're moving. One. I don't know if that wants to raise any question. If they have any digital. If so, are you interested? I'll look forward to that. I can't hear anything. I can't hear anything either. Test mic. Oh, this is the Burlington airport. That's better, Nick. That's much better. Okay, so we are on item four, which is the consent agenda to hear a motion to adopt the contents of the consent agenda. I don't see anyone. Any discussion or questions on the content of the agenda. You want to talk about on the employment. No, I think it's very consistent with what we've talked about in previous meetings this July, of course. We're going to be in organic. You can see 46,000 versus the 60,000 July. This year over July last year. So almost a 40% increase. Granted, that's not our benchmark. And you can see that in the lower graph of the second page graph. Getting towards the yellow lock on that graph, which is 2019 pre COVID. We're in the previous decade. So we're almost there. What I really like looking at this is the seasonality and the consistent cyclical nature of those of the graph. Things are looking very close to 2019. Very excited. I did actually have a couple of questions on the employment side. Just more curiosities of the on the first page, it looks like there's a pretty significant drop in the military side of things. Is that, do you know, is that due to the deployment? So, and just to reference the operational numbers are one month behind, which has that little note there. Right. June or for June of 2021. And yes, that was because that's what I thought just curious if that's why that dropped so much. Yep. Those military operations are not only the tank and my army National Guard operation. They also consist of all transient military operations. Right. Yep. Yep. And then on the last page with the garage utilization. It looks like the last, the last data for 2022 is from April at 87%. And that looks like that's the highest of any of the recorded April's. So I'm just curious if that's a concern or if that's getting to a point where we need to be concerned or if that's a really good thing. It is a great thing for us revenue wise from a customer service standpoint. It is difficult to find spots when we get that high specifically because all of our folks go out in the morning and parking and then the garage just has to leave before. So for planning purposes, we don't know occupancy counts for the following morning until late the night before our team watches it closely by the hour. They have a back-end system that tells us all the time number of transit transactions. We actually know how we are fully used to how many are not based on the credentials to get in. It was an interesting, but I think we are starting to gather some of the data for the next couple of weeks. And I think we are starting to get some of the data for the next couple of weeks to the number of vacation travel weeks. And a big reflection of our people numbers. We have to do to the Canadian traffic. So demand as a real piece of that. Right. Okay. Is there a percentage of utilization that. Where you start to get concerned, like, is that at 80%, 75%. Oh, okay. So there's still some room. Okay. Good. Good enough. Thank you. Yeah. I agree with Shelby. And I think one thing that we need to. Advise our customers is once it's at 80% mark, like Shelby said, it's very tough to find a parking spot. So yeah, you got to move around. We are going undergoing a signage plan update for them. If you notice, some of them are a little bit older signs and not necessarily pointing or indicating that there's additional parking just ahead, additional parking just above you. So that 80% mark is critical. Shelby's also undergoing a complete parking analysis, not just in the garage. As we start seeing new tenants utilizing parking. As our airlines and concessionaire employee numbers start getting back to where we hope that they need to be relatively soon, which means more employee parking. As the hotel comes online, we need to make sure that as we move one area of parking to the other area, to the other area, that domino effect is with them. Shelby's undergoing that realization step. Great. Thank you. Is there, um, when during the winter months, do we remove snow from the upper deck? Or do we just move around? We take it out. So we always have the same amount of parking spaces. We have the same amount of parking space. We have the same amount of parking space. We have the same amount of parking space. All year round. Nobody wants to crack that. But they can't. Right. And then so for out in employee parking. We have like the regular one. And then we sort of have the overflow that's on the other side of the testing site, right? And that doesn't look like it usually gets. And so are all employees parking out there? There's certain amount of employees that can park in the garage. Are. Government. Contract employees. They designate having to have private thoughts within their contract. Remember, remember. So. TSA. We call it our government agency. Yeah. Um, and then. 40s here, which is usually no more than 12. And we sneak under a ramp and a little hidden spot. Historically, over the last couple of years, we have a lot of. All the airport employees. The garage. Our utilization doesn't work down there. So there's usually parking available. And I don't have those better efficiency with our snow crews to clear the surface lots a little bit easier. Um, we are undecided. Yeah. If that's going to happen this year, we want to make sure that we're not hitting 87% as we go into the winter months, which we most likely. So any thought to perhaps have a link. The website that when we, when you get to that 87, or show me starts to sweat at 93, there's there's something that pops on the website that. Encourages people to carpool or taxi or realize that, that that is a double S. So in terms of the income, but it wouldn't populate until it was needed. Yeah. She's, she's going to hold up. So, uh, one of the cool improvements to our website, we were able to integrate with the parking system. So it does say live in that banner. Um, the percent full of the lot, but I do understand what you're saying is like, Hey, you know, allow for extra time for parking. You do intend to go berserk. I think that would actually be helpful. Yeah. Right now. So this is our public website. So it constantly shows the utilization as well. But, but you're maybe utilizing it a little bit. Banner format to say, Hey, two hours early. Five. Sometimes it's. Is there off airport parking? I mean, not that we, but even like, are there any little private laws and stuff? What's the. The car. But at 12, I can't be really that much cheaper. That's right. Um, yes, but then you have to wait for a shuttle and have a great rain. Yeah. Right. So I'm just saying. Yeah. Yeah. We have covered parking, secure parking, lighting parking, the fire alarm system. Right. But you don't do. For three bucks. Good. You're saying for, you know, 10 days. That'd be $30. Yeah. Right. Any other comments or questions on the, on the employment. If none do it. So we have the motion on the floor. All those in favor of adopting the contents of the consent agenda. Please. I would say nine. It goes. Who's consent agenda. We are on to action items. 5.01 parking garage. Great timing. Do I hear a motion to recommend the execution of a contract with MEI for parking garage improvements. In the approval of a related budget amendment. So boom. The second. All right. All right. Nick, do you want to take this one? Larry's on. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. So this basically includes the full replacement. Of the lighting and alarm system in the parking garage, all floors. It's in way past due. It's 25 years old. A conduit. Everything will be replaced. And also we'll see an effect of 50% less energy usage. In the parking garage up to 50%. Up to 50% less energy would equate to about. 40 ish percent on the expense side as well. Is that, that's correct. That's correct. Right. Yeah. Yeah, we're estimating that right now. Obviously we'll know when this project done. Right. Commissioner has any. Questions. I think just the obvious is obvious. If we. Take over time to just make up the difference in that. What we're going to have to spend up to you. Right. Yeah. Years. Years. I think the bottom line for us is the energy savings that we're going to get out of that to make sure that we're getting. Local. And certainly city growing to energy goals. That's a small portion of that. That project. More importantly, we need to make sure that it's a little bit brighter. And of course the fire alarm system is. An absolute requirement. Yeah. So this is something we already budgeted on anyway. It was no, it wasn't. It's obviously. 27 years old. Originally we were not going to move forward with this entire contract this particular year. Phasing of the project. So it's going to take some time. Through the American rescue plan. Okay. Right now. Yeah. So it's been paid for at least the rescue. Funds. What does it mean when you said. Therefore an increase to the grant revenue is requested. So. When I present the budget, it's balance my expenses. My revenue is valid. So one of the things. I did not need to budget all of the. American rescue money to balance the budget when we put it through and had it approved. We knew that we wanted to do this project. We had originally thought we might have to face it over a couple of years. So we had bids that had come in like over the summer and stuff. So the budget was already done. And then we have savings do it all up front as opposed to. Facing it. It's, it's better to do it that way. It's better to do it that way. It's better to do it that way. But also we have an opportunity because we have these funds. We're able to draw them down. And so, you know, even if I use like the garage revenue, so to speak, to cover this, I can. Then I can at least use the American rescue act to cover other expense. They're normal that are already approved. So it's just a balancing act. I can't just, I can't just increase my expense budget. I have to have a way to offset it. Okay. Does the contract include anything for security cameras? No. Just wondering if that was something that was discussed. I know that there's been an increase in crime throughout the region. People are out there at different times, employees. And customers. So I'm wondering if, if it's something that should be considered at this time. When we did the garage parking. Installation upgrade in 2019. We did redo all of the cameras and conduit for the entrances, exits and all the vestibules were done in 2021 actually by MEI as part of our security upgrade. When we had done the whole terminal. So everything that it's related to security cameras is 2019. We also installed. Very similar to UVM or college campuses, blue light emergency buttons from here all the way to the employee parking lot, which has 360 degree cameras as well as the media call to our police department station right here in the parking garage. I agree. We do need to plan for additional cameras to be installed in there. Over time. And that will certainly come from this way over the years. I don't know which year. I'm sure that structurally. Co wise that we're up to speed. Great. Any other. Conversation on this topic. Hearing none. Although some favor. You signify by saying hi. Hi. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Thank you. Carries. And move on to item 5.02, which is to recommend the purchase of an electric sweeper to approve the related budget. Your emotions. That's. The approval. Three. Second. None of us want a second. Can't be the mover of the motion. It's a little bit of a point of order for me. I just. I do recall someone mentioned in, and maybe we're shall be because you were just handling without you were taking the minutes last time. That the minutes sometimes can be difficult to determine who. try to make an effort. That's a great observation, I will do that going forward. So I'm going to say Jeff made. I mean, I arbitrarily picked Jeff because I was 3D simultaneously, so we'll pick Jeff there and do I have a second for that? Second. That would be Helen, all right. And Sheldon, can you leave us on this one, please? Absolutely. So this is a compact sweeper that is fully electric. It will be replacing the current sweeper we have that is not fully electric. It has reached the end of its useful life. This is environmentally friendly machine. It's going to save us up to 85% on energy costs that we currently have now and 70% of maintenance costs. It not only is a sweeper that will be used in front of the terminal in the parking garage, but it has wetback technology, which helps with dust mitigation as they're sweeping in addition to a large back system on it that will help us get in between the roads for better functionality if we pick up things like that, which therefore helps with drains and things of that kind as we move into the winter and that spring. This was something that our maintenance team had brought forward to us, and a demo had come in that they had arranged to have come up. And that's what is the perfect equipment. And we really supported all of their efforts that they brought forward and having done the research to have this presented to you all today. Good discussion. I'm guessing the infrastructure is in place for the charging of the back. Absolutely, yes. It's actually going to be stored inside in one of our garage phase. It's all set. Conveniently, we're an airport electrician who reports to you in the morning as well. Perfect. Thank you. Well, I'm thrilled that it's all electric. We're more than happy to demo it with South Portland's DBW as well. I know our DBW team in Burlington demoed it as well. And this is what it looks like on the screen. But I think it's really amazing. We're going to, of course, brand it. It is very much in the public spotlight. And it really is a multifunction tool that is going to be extremely useful in our garage. How much more expensive was it, Nick? And what's the payout in terms of our payback? Yeah, so ours was what was difficult. We had pretty significant height limitations that we had to work with. We have, I think, a 7 foot limitation in a very specific spot in our parking garage. So we had to meet that spec in this particular model. This one, as you can see in the memo, was $290,000. And we received about a $60,000 discount because it was a demonstration model. We were one of the three airports that they demoed so far. So it was extremely attractive for this. Certainly versus any of these or a few products and very limited in selection of any of their electric vehicles to this comparison. But was it like 20% more expensive? Or, I mean, that's often the pushback, you know, it's more expensive to start with. I don't know. I don't know because we only look for electric vehicles. So not quite with that. OK, thank you. I was just curious. So I had a question about the budget transfer. That this is coming out of the airfield, CapEx, is there something that was going to be done in the airfield that may now not be done? Not necessarily. I put together the budget. I budget a half a million in capital. And I just sort of, I kind of go, well, historically, a lot of times we see more of that in the airfield side of it. And I put this together. I put that together and sort of said to add and know that we can move it around if something, if we find that we're going to go ahead for, because we have lots of things we'd like to buy. And it's about deciding on the highest priority. So we do go through that exercise internally. So that's why I'm moving it. I'm just saying it's kind of like this. It's early in the fiscal year to make an adjustment in that sense. So I just kind of caught my eye. So OK. Any other discussion? No, none of those. If there are please signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. That carries. Item 5.03 is the Beta Valley West April lease to Beta Technology. So I hear a motion to recommend the approval of the lease. Most approval. All right. So that was moved by Gray. Do I hear a second? Second. That was seconded by Helen. Discussion to be led by Nick. Another exciting milestone, I think, for an area of the airport that's been vacant for a long time. So what we refer to as the Valley West Apron, lease was constructed over 10 years ago with federal funding. That is a general aviation ramp. It will remain a general aviation ramp open to any GA operator. Beta technology is through a request for a proposal or a commercial real estate advertisement. Sorry. What's the only respond into that particular site? We advertise multiple locations. One was in the old quarry area. The second was the Valley West Apron. And the third was the Northwest Quadrant, our airfield. Beta was the solar respondent in a 2019 advertisement, in which case we started negotiations. Since then, we are now working with Burlington Technical Center and other alternative sites for the larger technical program, inclusive of this Valley West Apron. However, we now have a deal with beta technologies for two-phase project. One is a approximately 25,000 square foot facility with a second phase over 60,000 square feet in addition to it. This is simpler than the manufacturing site. There is no rent credit associated with this location. This is fair market value for the ground. We've reduced the footprint of the original request to allow opportunities from other entities like the Tech School and other private entities that are also interested in this location currently. And I would like to move forward with this lease. It's a nominal ground rent. We do have very specific requirements associated with milestones associated with a phase two build-up, which is the 65,000 square foot additional location. This is a 30-year lease. And if they hit those milestones on the second phase, they have the option for two extensions, one to 10-year and a half to keep it under a 50-year, which is related to transfer tax requirements, which we do not want to get into. Lease-old improvements. We also have a capital reserve account associated with this side towards the end of the lease, in case we need to maintain or demolish the building at the end. The building does come to the airport at the end of the lease. And there are normal escalation clauses with CPI within the range of 2% to 6%. The building is going to be used for a couple of purposes. It is a general aviation storage location. And eventually it will be site location for their electric aircraft to store inside of this hangar. The second phase will be their culture center, which will be a little bit larger as far as those locations for education of electric aircraft and education of what data is doing, why and how they're doing this, as well as an additional hangar space. These are the types of hangars that we need at this airport. 20 to 25,000 square foot facilities are exactly what we need. So super excited to see data in that particular area as we continue negotiating with other entities as well. So is this, sorry, can I talk now? Yeah. Check it. Never know where I am in the process. So do they, I don't know how big the West Valley is, how big is it? So if we're talking 25,000, is that a quarter of it, a half of it, all of it? It's none of the apron. What they're developing is next to the apron. The apron is about four acres, but it's not using the apron. It's using the adjacent graph area where they're building. So, right, we cannot rip up the apron. There's some, there's some pieces of the apron very, very close. So the apron where we've stored at 16s, we've stored snow clouds and all that stuff is not what we're talking about. That's the apron, but the building adjacent to that. Right, but they're not building on the apron. The apron remains the same. OK, so where is it? Do you have an airport picture? We're looking for a ground map or something. Yeah, I agree. Yeah, or Nick, you can go to my last page of my construction report. It shows some of it. It shows the data development. So here's our terminal building over to the side there. Over to the side, Valley West apron is almost to the very southern point of the airport, Heritage Aviation, Aerodyne, excuse me, I hate to be a trooper at Whitney all over here. Valley West apron, that four acre actual site right there, which actually used to be wetlands. It was about 30 feet deep right there, wetlands that was filled in and a new apron was created, again, all with federal funding. So adjacent to that apron and opening up the map in just a second is the location of the new building. That building right there, just to compare, is about 12 and a half, 12,500 square feet. So it's about twice the size of the Montflagging building. And smaller than these buildings over here, those are approximately 30,000 square feet. But there wouldn't be anything else available over there if they controlled that. I know there would be, there would be. And I'm about to bring up that site point. Can you see the manufacturing facility? It's not. You can, actually, if you move it down just a little bit on the other side of the, kind of, see the bar, right? Yep, that's it. Of course, it's much more, don't tell, now. Clicking around a lot, because I assume the lake is right across here. It will, it will. So here's the lease lines for this particular site. So again, Pratt and Whitney, is this building right here, the JVH over here, all of our taxiway's runway systems into this four acre ramp space right here. The building is in section A right there. So that's the size of the building. This is the option space. So here's the lease lines for this particular site. So again, Pratt and Whitney, this is the option. So if they hit those milestones on the additional 65,000, then they get the option to build out this particular site. We purposely, originally the lease went all the way to the taxiway. We purposely reduced that location. That's about 125 feet from the service road. So even further from the taxiway, to site and additional building, as well as additional space up here. On our master plan, this entire section up top here, also is new GA apron space. So this ramp does get extended over time as part of our capital plan. You can see the depth of the building here, the depth of the building approximately. And it's not gonna take up the entirety of section B there, but the depth of the building equivalent to that one. The behind that building is the Vermont Flight Academy and there's additional space to build right here and off to the side over here. These are actually the sites that we are looking at with the technical college to see if those are viable options. Can you mean the technical side? I don't know. I know, it gets very complicated. VTC, VTC, VFA as well as this. Okay, so the first site that they're proposing though would have a great deal of traffic across the apron. So whoever it is if it was someone else, like going to technical center on the other side, they're all gonna have to collaborate on all the movement of the airplanes on the apron. You got it. Which is exciting because it's like I said, this apron has been very underutilized for the last 10 years. Right now we have one aircraft, small aircraft that's I believe not airworthy right now parked on that. So this is a huge opportunity for the airports to make sure there's some momentum behind this particular apron. Not just with one entity but for various entities. And then this entire apron must remain economy use. There are, that's why none of this, this area contains apron space for bad technologies. There's preferential space obviously, we're not gonna allow somebody to park in the air. Right, but there's no space associated with the apron. Right, so this is a came back in 2019, but my understanding from Burlington Technical Center was that they also put in a request for a lease. That was recently, that was just within the last year. Yeah, so what is the status of that request? Is that not in this request? I don't know if I would comment on that. I think that would have to go to the executive session to talk about these negotiations. But it seems like if beta has the middle and they also have the option for the side and Burlington Technical Center doesn't have an option for a lease. They do. There's multiple options on this apron for the technical center. Where? There's the entire north side, there's the 125 feet on the south side, there's additional space on the bottom. 125 feet, but they're talking about 25,000. Right, or am I reading that? Square. Am I losing it? Square feet, so, and you're talking about 125 feet. That doesn't seem to be a comparison. So this 25,000 square foot facility, which my understanding from the technical school is what they're looking for as well, can fit right here as well. It can also fit here or down. There's multiple options to put a similar size building on this side. So that's sort of the grassy area above VFA. At the top of that. Nick, I can also add a 25,000 square foot building that goes on just one floor, which this potentially might not be, would be 160 by 160. So 125 is 20. And then you've got longer length there too. So we'd back up to the taxiway, Larry. It would back up to both. Well, we're both going to the taxiway. Yeah, we're not far enough along in deciding what the technical college to really talk about the details. That's what we're doing right now with this school is identifying the appropriate locations for the lease of the technical college. There are, which we'll talk in the executive session later tonight, there are other alternatives that are much viable. We're working with superintendent on a plan again to make sure that those options are really working forward. But I don't think anybody knows that this lease is on the agenda. This was a publicly advertised meeting. This was a meeting advertised at the Board of Finance. There were media attention associated with this in the technical college had to see these maps. I'm sorry, that's it. Right, I feel that there's going to be a lot of people that from the general aviation community that feel like they will not have a space in this center. I mean, we were just on a discussion today in the manufacturing summit that talked about this Patrick Leahy, $10 million academic center of excellence. And this 25,000 square foot facility is not that. This is just for beta. This is just for their electric aircraft, just for their training. It does not include BFA or Burkitton Technical Center or anybody else, is that correct? This is just another piece of data. This is a private investment but it is. Now, data has been at the meetings trying to invest in public conversations with BFA, the technical center, as well as their own needs at as part of this facility. But those are not my negotiations on how beta coordinates their procedural and operational needs between those entities. We are at the table to make sure that we can do everything that we can. How with our hope right now, in fact, we are supporting the technical center by providing $700,000 to start that setting plan and start the design. This grant came to us without the airport knowing about it as well. We were, that's why we need to work with the technical center and the school. We needed a site plan, we needed, we need everything associated with what any private entity investor at the airport needs to accomplish. We're extremely excited to see another 25,000 square foot hangar be sighted at this area and still have the opportunities. Like I said, we were adapted these square footages to make sure that there are opportunities on this location. This is a massive acre right here. There are opportunities for additional expansion by other entities. So Nick, if I'm just so that I understand correctly on the map that's on the screen, area A is the 24,000 square foot building with the associated parking, correct? Area B would be the possible expansion of the 65,000 square foot. If they meet those milestones. Is area B, is that 65,000 square feet that's showing there as area B or is that? That is 55,000 square feet. 55,000 square feet. Okay, okay. So is it possible though that area B if they don't meet the milestones will become available for someone else? That's correct. And they have a very quick timeframe. They only have a few years to design, permit, develop and make sure those milestones are right on a very, very strict guidelines. Otherwise that area is available for public advertising. Great, thank you. And what about the other area that you said is not designated around the corner from the other side? Everything outside of this hashed area is available for public advertising. No, correct. Because the issue with this $10 million grant is that really unintended but their high school is shut down. They don't have any room. They have to find a place and it has to be there. They can't wait for five years for them not to make their potential. So if what you're saying is there's still room, there's still plenty of room for that size and they could apply for that, then that gives them somewhere else to go. I do want to be clear too that I've probably stated before that I don't think the technical center is, that is not my first choice for the technical center. They're not moving planes as often and they, especially when they add in other program elements like auto and high bay technical programs, those cannot be located on an airfield. So we have to be very careful on how we cite this, not only with the requirements of the grant through the EMR program but also through our requirements with the FAA. There are much better locations on this airfield that will take that $5 million, hopefully twice as far with the technical center. But I think that the whole idea was that Burlington Technical Center with their aviation maintenance program and Vermont Technical College with our two year maintenance program and our four year pilot program and our partnership with Vermont Flight Academy we would now have mechanics working with the flight school working with the college to all work together. And if the mechanics aren't next to the airplanes then it doesn't work. But what you're saying is that when the Burlington Technical Center opened it up just saying, oh yeah, we're gonna put a bunch of these other they just keep themselves right out of the maintenance the aviation maintenance program because you can't you can't by the FAA put those guys on the airport. So they just took themselves off the airport. I mean, there's there's creative ways that we can address that. That's important for them to know because I don't think anybody knows that they do. They do. They know that they can't be on the airport. No, no, yes, unless their program lines away or their curriculum, I should say outlines a way to address airport needs. When they enter, when they have an auto mechanic program we need that pipeline as well. We need auto mechanics can big, big and in repaired mechanics for our equipment. We have shortage of labor. Sure, sure, sure. This is the unhelpful kind of stuff. But you're saying that education component can't happen at that location. I said it's that's not the best location. Yes, and we have to be very careful where we set those locations to address those happenings. No, I get it. But if so a VFA is out of room and they thought at least by combining with Brownington Technical Center that the aviation mechanics and aviation pilots and the training were clearly have to be next to each other in order for them to work on the airplanes and go and do the training, then where does VFA and deaf and all this? VFA is sort of where they are. Without busting at the seams with an old building falling down. So I think the idea that we talked about in our collaboration was that everybody needs space. Everybody's buildings are falling down and there's nowhere to go. I'd be happy to have this conversation a little bit larger. There's larger conversations that were having with each one of these entities that is outside of this particular at least several times. This, these two ramps right here have a much larger and more appropriate master plan that we're making master plan. I should say that we're working on with many entities in this area. Whether we're talking hand or condos from our flight academy, new businesses that want to be here, beta or the technical college technical center, there's larger conversations that are happening to negotiate these deals. We can't just. I get you, I get you. It's just important to know what's, what will be left if anything. We are busy, we're building and that's exciting. That's great. We can't allow it a ramp to be vacant for 10 years. I so agree. I have the original plans from 10 years ago. Let me talk about this again. The opportunity for this $10 is absolutely outstanding. So there are in and hopefully there'll be additional contacts during our executive sessions at night that will add to the conversation. Thank you. If that's the case, would it make sense to defer the action on this to week? If there's information, it's going to be helpful for us. I would recommend not to do this. This is the ratification of this lease. This lease has been brought to Fortified City Council and has passed. I guess I don't know. I don't understand unless there's some rules, issues, what the harm would be if there is going to be information that can help us. And we can intend, it would just be a reordering of each other. If you say it's important that we act on it tonight, no problem with that, but if there's going to be information that would be helpful for us, I'd prefer I guess to act on it after we have that issue. Yeah, I think that makes sense on the context of the technical center, which is unrelated to this particular lease at this time. As we mentioned, we've done everything we possibly can to make sure that this ramp is available to other entities, including the technical center, if this is the appropriate site location, the information that I was referencing for executive session really is pertinent to the technical side of the lease. And I don't know how you're going to be talking about the major lease at this time. But I do think it's important that there's action taken tonight on this. So I could see it both ways that would help the conversation and the action tonight on this. Thank you. You mentioned that the Board of Finance has approved this. So in essence, and since I'm doing, I'm still not exactly sure about the process, powers and suction. And so you really have very limited authority to sort of check this other than maybe tabling it for right now and coming back and seeing it again after executive session, which you said may not be as helpful as we assume for those. So in essence, the city has already approved this, at least the Board of Finance and City Council. So really, we're just following in line here. This, as any of the action items on any commission, it's only a recommendation. There's no approval that needs to be heard tonight. It really is a support of these items. Sure. I guess, just to clarify that point, most times we as a body will review something before it goes, but there are some circumstances where it goes in reverse order and this happens to be one of those circumstances. I mean, I'm very aware that all of our businesses advisory. I'm sure there's other things that I voted on that have already been passed by the Board of Finance and Council. I just probably wasn't aware of it. I was always under the assumption that the Board of Finance and City Council was sort of asked, like, is the commission supportive of this? And that was, so we like to line up that way. Sounds like that is the preferred order. 100%. And typically we try to strive to do that. Sometimes the timing doesn't work that way. Again, we don't have any conversations with them to see if we can adjust the timing of the actual commission meeting. Yeah, no, I get it. It doesn't always line up. It'd be helpful, I think, to know that in advance, to say, FYI, this is already, because of timing reasons that it already went to the Board of Finance and the City Council. That would be a perfect way. Yeah, I think so procedurally, if someone wants to make a motion to table this and redo the agenda so that this comes after executive session, that motion could be made. The commissioners can vote and if it passes, it would move and if not, it would stay in its current spot. So. I would argue against that. Just, although thank you for giving that clarity on it. Based on what Nick has said, we're addressing the issue after they have approved it and we're not gonna gain a lot of new information in the executive session. I think Robin has raised some very good points, but at this point, it doesn't. I just don't see that it really matters that much based on the procedure. And the executive session is unrelated to this matter. There's a tangential relationship, obviously, but we're not talking about anything related to this lease in executive session. That's great. That's great. That's great. I'm fine, I'm fine, I'm floating out it. So let's give it all in. I'm gonna call the question. All those in favor, approve, or, it's not really, you recommend any approvals that already has been approved, but signifying our support for this lease is signified by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? All right, thank you. We move now to item 5.04, which is to recommend approval of the sale of snow removal equipment to heritage aviation. Do I hear a motion to that effect? I'll make that motion. That's been moved. And do I hear a second? Second, I'm sorry. All right. And the second, this is Dave. How's everybody doing? Good, Dave. So this is basically, we have three pieces of equipment that the airport has had in our inventory, one of which was a Chevy 3500 1993. That one's a 2000 GMC 10 and a 2002 Chevy K 3500. And we've used them, put them to good use over the last 20 to 30 years, but they've since, they are maintenance intensive and they do take a lot of space on our ramp. So heritage has agreed to purchase them for $25,000. And it allows us to heritage to keep up their ramp, which improves the usability of their spaces for the aircraft in the winter months. And occasionally we actually help them out with cleaning their surfaces. So then having that ability to do that on their own more effectively is gonna benefit the airport as well. Any commissioners, any comments or questions? What is a tool behind super? It's wondering that too. Oh, so basically what it is is that it's a utility truck, you know, it's like a vehicle that has a, was a fifth wheel, right? Is that what they call it? Where the actual hitch itself is in the bed of the truck. And basically it's just a truck room attached to the back of it via a fifth wheel. And that's what it basically sweeps. That's the functionality of it. Now, when I say that they're kind of obsolete and they've been superseded by the multifunction piece of equipment, the multifunction piece of equipment. We actually have five of those right now and they're a lot more efficient. They sweep up a lot more in less time. It's actually a plow followed by a broom followed by an air blast. So you have, instead of just one function of physical removal, you have three methods of removal. All at the same time. So these are things we've even used for by all your time. Yeah, they're just hanging up, taking up space. Yeah, they're taking up space. I mean, we have used them occasionally, but, you know, for the last couple of years since we've had, you know, upgraded the equipment, they just, you know, stay on the, in the shop over there. So it is taking up a lot of our space. Actually, as I assume heritage has agreed to the sale price that's been negotiated already. Yes. And any further, just a question. So after the sale, where does this money roll into a specific account? It'll just come into our, you know, as a miscellaneous revenue sale on. We'll look and see if we have any value left on those assets. They're kind of old. They may be fully depreciated. So I will look at that and be either a gain on the sale of our assets if we have, if we fully depreciated them or maybe there's a small residual amount still outstanding. So we'll remove that and then we no longer have to maintain those equipment or they take up space. So we don't need to be available to be used for other items. All right. All those in favor of approving this item, signify by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed? 5.04 carries. You're now item two, item 6.01, which is the construction update from Larry. Okay. Typically in December, I'm relieved and be able to say that we're substantially complete with all outside construction this year, September and I'm able to say that. So that's a relief for me and it makes me feel good, although the tech center or BTC and Beta adds more of my effort than in now. So I have nothing more to report than what's on my reports and I'm willing to, you know, I can answer any questions. So thank you so much. Commissioner, is there any questions on Larry's report? All right. None of you will move on to item, thank you Larry for hearing them. We'll move on to item 7.01, which is the financial update for break. Thank you. Thanks. Got all that's here. So you have this month's package. We are in our new fiscal year. So you have July, our revenue expenses for July and including the cash that we had as the end of August in our AIP receivable. So in there, you know, we're starting off the year. I'm pleased with how we're starting our revenues are continuing to improve. Month to month we're seeing strong, strong car rental concession revenues, we're seeing strong CFC revenues in our parking garage is really performing quite well compared to even our pre-COVID numbers. We're actually seeing about a hundred percent of July this year compared to three years ago. So all of these are again, showing how the recovery is moving along and we hope that that continues. And we hope to see that a stimulus grant monies, we continue to use the CARES Act. What we have left of it, we sort of designated we're able to use toward our older grants that we're just finishing up some work for that had a match, like had a local show match. And so we're able to use that on that still. We did, and we're able to draw down, we did our first drawdown on the American Rescue Act. We're waiting for them to approve it, but that money is going to be used to offset our salaries that we had from our last fiscal year that we've just completed up. But we decided to go ahead and do that since we know we have these, that is an eligible expense under there, even though we had a very good year, but also this allows us, we have a lot of repairs and maintenance and other things, like the garage thing that we just talked about earlier that we have, know that we have coming up. And we continue to go about $2.5 million on our grant participation note that is on one specific AIP grant that we have, that we've submitted for a closeout with the FAA, that is our Taxiwagall phase two, so the large, large grant, and we are waiting for the FAA to close it out when they do and reverse us, then we'll pay down the grant participation note. So our year thing revenues were about $2.3 million for the first month of our year, which just makes me very happy to report actually. And I have the metric sheet that we are our new metric sheet that now we're on our third month of using it, so which really helpful to kind of see, I like how this definitely rates where we are, where we're heading and how we're getting there. So again, I wanna give my appreciation to Tim for, you know, sort of coming up with that idea and actually putting it together because it's quite easy to bring that forward. And again, these only go through June. Actually, it does go through July on the dot. If I hover on the dot, it says July, it doesn't show that at the bottom. So it just, it makes it look like it's through June, but it's through July. So that is all current and up to date. A great, great observation. I did double check that. Our expenses for July were just under $900,000. We are running a little bit higher than last year. We did a more repair maintenance, sometimes the timing of some of our repairs, we had some things that we had to do on the airfield and things like that. So sometimes we end up timing-wise. We sort of know that these things come to be, see them timing-wise a little bit different. Our cash was again, very solid. We had about $6.5 million in our airport checking account. So that was allowing us to pay for, even though we're done our construction on this project, we're still getting a lot of bills for that. You know, it takes a little bit for them to bill us. And so we are going through and doing that. And our AIP receivable, even the size of the grants that we have, always, always is about $6 million. So that is, again, it's an indication since we spend it, we pay it, and then we get reimbursement. So we do have reimbursements coming in all the time, with millions of dollars that we are drawing down and have already gotten some back this month and we'll get some back in the next week or two. So that is just constant flux there. But it's always higher when we have construction going on. So those are, I don't know if anybody has any specific questions, any of our line items or any questions to the demo. Sure. I have just a couple of funny questions. So when we do landing fees here and we collect our 1.7 million dollars, is that mostly airline landing fees or does that include heritage corporate traffic? And does the military pay anything? We don't, they're awash, right? We already talked about that. Right, and those smaller planes, they don't pay landing fees on them. We don't have a landing fee here at Burlington. Directly. Directly does. Oh, heritage. So heritage pays us for their lease and they collect parking fees at their parking area. We do collect from the airlines. We do. We do. So all of that is there. All of that is 100% commercial operations. I think that's what you're asking. Yeah, yep, yep, yep. So the nice thing is that even though we have sort of a limited amount of gates, we have an unlimited amount of landing fees as long as we can put them somewhere. That's right. Excellent. Sort of, yeah. Yeah, it's tricky conversation to have with the airlines. We don't want to have that unlimited amount. We want to justify the rate of a landing fee to... A gate and service. Right, provide services by the offset expenses out of heritage and that's how we calculate our landing fee. Yeah, well ours are, I'm sure, significantly lower than our nearest people that they would pay. Maybe not that's fair, but they don't have a tower. Okay, cool. And then this cash short, is that just a thing that comes up if you weren't like getting your grant money in or something else that you had to wait for? Is that where, or is that like a pay cash short? It's like a pay cash short. So we really don't see a lot of activity in there anymore. Yeah. And is this energy efficient line item? Is that something that could be improved when we improve those other things that we're trying to make the airport more green? Right, you won't see the savings there. Our savings, I have savings in my utilities or my electrical pots or things. That's where I will have lower bills. And so we'll see that in there. This line item, we added that last year and we will keep adding that. We're very conscientious. As a community and as an initiative, I think we're all very conscientious about making improvements in sustainability and making improvements in energy and we all have to do our part. So we are looking at that. We're doing a study right now, which we started last year and that's in gear to find ways that we can participate in that smartly and wisely. And then how do we make investments? What is it called? Like what do we do next? So we're looking, that's what that energy, that line is specific. We want to track it, we want to show it. And we wanna have that as continue to be a part of our conversation. Yeah, I think that's got a lot of traction in our community in general. It's right now. And our last one is that we're still overseeing by the Burlington police, right? We are, they provide our security services here. And so when I know that when part of the Burlington police was defunded that also impacted the airport. We didn't have as much oversight, right? We have. We still have a contract with the Burlington police department. So it didn't change? Like the amount of people, the amount of force that we, so we have a line item for airport security to police. Is that ours or is that theirs? No, that's our expense. That we treat them. The Burlington police. That's what I got. That's our contract. Right, so it didn't change. I thought that we kind of suffered from. It did decrease slightly in February. Did a fantastic job making sure that our expense and the contract was adjusted according to the schedules that are approved. I just want to be cautious about talking about security associated with the airport and the changes that have occurred. But overall, the police are accommodating all hours that they're required to by federal regulation right now. As it affects budget, you haven't noticed anything significant. Correct. The question on the landing fees and how that is negotiated or whatever. I don't want to get bogged down in the weeds, but I'm just wondering if once the new terminal does that mean that landing the fees will increase? Because we're really providing more of their service and having people come outside. Right. So I'm just curious about the timely question. We actually met with our airlines today. We are renegotiating our lease with the airlines and we've already preliminary agreed to an additional five year extension of our airlines. That'll come to you next meeting. It's not until November. So it'll come to you later in the year to the next year. We do have an extension. Don't remember if you were out on board with Robin or maybe you were out on board, but we do have a one year extension that we approved to the trip of 2023 to give us that time to negotiate. To your point of landing fees, we separate the cost centers. Harder to see how this particular really flows separate terminal expenses versus airfields and expenses. The airfield side gives us that methodology of creating a landing fee, which will not essentially change. And in fact, we're going to try to now make that change. Very, very important to retain the air service that we have today. In the terminal, to your question, we have a per square footage terminal rental rate. Today it's $63 a square foot. That's not the same as a regular commercial per square footage. We usually have a commercial building here. You're looking at $10 to $15 a square foot. So this is a significant amount, but that's taken from the expense of operating this terminal. When we expand the terminal, we need to make sure that's accounted for as well. But again, we're trying to make sure that we're coming up even as far as how we negotiate and what the rate is going to be with the airlines. When we add a square footage to that number that we divide the terminal by the square footage number, obviously that number increases. So theoretically the rate will decrease to make sure that we can maintain the same revenue, although we need to increase that revenue source just a little bit to make sure that we can make that happen as well. Any further discussion? I have one other item that didn't make it on my report because it's that new. So we get reviewed by Moody's and pitch rating agency during the year, but Moody's just requested information to go ahead and update they were reviewing our airport. And so we complied with that, provided all the information and they issued an opinion and that I haven't even seen the final copy of it. That's how new, but they reaffirmed, they rated us BAA, they reaffirmed our rating and with a stable outlook. So we're exactly the same. We have a gun up, we have a gun down and that just became public. So I've got to go and see the actual final, we get a draft of the opinion, but I'm not supposed to share the draft. So when I get that, I'll share that with everybody. But just hot off the pressure. Well, we're not out of the press in a while to work that way. She put together a different amount of information for Moody's to make sure that they can analyze us. We're back to us, which I think is a really positive that I think retaining that rating, despite not even being back up to pretty good the numbers is really good. And the impact of that is that when we go out to borrow money, it's a better rating. What are we finding? So they're all right. Which one am I pointing at? The right one? Yeah, that's it. It is nice to know. So for historical context, we compare this at Creeco that how many notches are we different? So Moody's did not change our rating during COVID. So we've maintained, which is great. We've maintained our same. Okay. Yeah, I think they even kept us a stable outlook. I have to look back. Mitch had put us at a negative outlook, but didn't reduce us, but now is back up to statement. So, but Moody's took a longer term view and didn't lose confidence. I will say, you know, when COVID really impacts. So that was good, but it's hard as- What you just got is Moody's though. Moody's, yeah. And they sort of approach us and say like, hey, we'd like to do this now. Okay. Once every couple of years. Oh no, Moody's will typically ask for information. Sometimes, especially because of COVID, they've been asking as much as twice a year. A lot of times it's only once a year, had them once a year, but because of COVID, they've been asking for more data and information. But they just had, Moody said also, Mitch reviewed us in March and Moody's reviewed us in March as well because we were going to refinance our bonds. So it's really about, what, seven months after they, or six months after they reviewed us the last time. Great, anything else for Marie? All right, thank you. We'll move on to item eight, which is, or 8.01, which is noise data. Hannah, this is yours. So we received about 92 more comments since July, which was when this was last reported. So 435 cumulative comments on our feedback portal. And also an update next month, that there will be coming to re-calibrate the noise monitors that are in the Williston, South Burlington and Windy State. So that will hopefully just, make sure that anything is completely accurate and showing us it should be reading correctly. Hannah, they're also going to repair the Winooski one that was damaged at the same time they're doing the calibrating of the monitors. That was going to be my question. That was going to be unfixed as well, so good to know. Do you know when that's happening? Sorry. I think they're going to be here October 19th to 21st. Great, thank you. We have had some comments by Burlington, by a Burlington resident to add to this report. So we'll use it to see if we can add change. Some of the reporting collected from the data. I do want to say as well that we recently received our first bill for our annual accommodation of these noise monitors, which is almost $50,000 a year. And if I said that, it's the first year that we've seen it. So when you say accommodation, what do you mean by accommodation? By hosting, yeah, by hosting. So we now, out of our operating budget, pay $50,000 a year for the noise monitors to be on. So that is not part of the brand, so those are going to be continuous plus any cost of basic. I think that's important to make sure that we're just tracking those costs. Great, Commissioner, is there any other comments? All right, so move on to 9.01, commissioners items. There is one item which I'll start with. So I think we've talked about this, made in very brief in a couple of months ago, but this commission operates under procedures and rules document. So newer commissioners, I know you've seen that as part of the welcome packet. Jeff, we last looked at this last summer, but Greg, it rightfully pointed out that a lot has changed since the document had been put together. So in the next couple of months, we're going to take a look at that. And now that many new commissioners had a little seasoning of what it's like to be on the commission, we definitely want to get your input as to how this body should operate. I prefer not to take formal action until we have our right to know orientation because I feel like there's something we might learn from that. And possibly wait until the seventh seat is built by Burlington, although that seems to be taking a while. So we may go ahead and do it. No, the seventh seat, there is not an appointment for the seventh seat. So, but needless to say, the process will be else, I'll put a document out there. Greg has, I'm sorry. Eric has started to put thoughts out on what that should look like. I think you've forwarded me some comments from the city attorney. So I will meld those together. And it's really a collaborative document. So feel free to modify and suggest. And then eventually we'll work with it all together and we'll bring it to this body and hopefully approve it. So just stay tuned. By understand, we have the regular document and then do we have a draft document that you're working on? There is one that Eric has done some work on in the city attorney. But it's accessible, I guess. Not yet, but it will be. Okay, gotcha. And then that will be the one that he's springboard from. So that's just something on the radar. And then any other questions? Any other commissioner items that anyone wants to bring up at this time? I just have one other one which I didn't plan the agenda, but I just want to recognize that Nick is now our, I don't say permanent, but he's no longer our acting director. He is our director. And so I want to congratulate him on his appointment by the mayor and the approval of my city council. We're excited to do that. It's my second day. It's good to be here. It hurts cold a little bit. It's good to be here. Congratulations. Congratulations. Thank you. And it was nice. I saw a little clip on TV. It was nice having your crew there. You know, some physically some titular job. It's like why is super humble in there? Here are those comments. Absolutely. Tim and I were part of the search and Dave as well. And I'll just say it was a really strong candidate pool. And this was not a perfunctory search at all and I think we got the right person. And it says a lot about you that you competed against the best people that we could find. And we're the choice. So congratulations. Thank you. Thank you. So without any prefix in front of the word director. It was the director. First. That's amazing. First one. And I'm going to keep it short. So just a couple of updates. I have a quick list that I usually keep in there. I think it's incredibly important that we keep a new snow removal equipment maintenance facility project on our eyes and on in conversation. We have now hired a consultant and an engineer to start our design efforts on this new snow removal equipment building to relocate our crew to the appropriate location with the intent of removing ground vehicles from aircraft operations. I'm going to say until we have serious needs to expand our cargo operations at this airport. So there's a dual function happening in the geographic locations that I'm referring to, which we don't need to dive in today. But moving our folks out of that specific location to expand cargo operations is also a critical component to moving our snow removal. We are still looking on the Northwest border at this airport. We have not moved away from that generalized location. However, we are looking at working with our neighbors and working with the communities to make sure that we're incorporating noise measures, landscaping measures, and accommodations for the community to still utilize noise buffer zones, which are still residential, by relocating and looking at alternative outputs. Still in the Northwest border, just a little bit further we're going to stay away as far as possible from residential neighborhoods. Still very early on in the process that I said to our consultant and engineer team to start the design work and make sure that the feasibility is appropriate. Many terminal projects that are happening very, very quickly over the next couple of weeks, I'm happy to report that we are on schedule for a soft opening of the terminal integration project. In fact, this, I guess, technically will be a soft opening and press conference in a minute, which we would love to invite all of you to on October 6th at 10 AM. That would be, like I said, a soft opening. The facility will not yet be secured and not yet be operational. But our hope is to invite all our airline partners in flight, our TSA agents, have them with us at the press conference. Senator Lakey, as well as Mayor Weinberg will be there to officially cut the ribbon. And the TSA agents will be standing behind the new brand new equipment that many people have never even experienced using this equipment through airports. They'll be behind those that you can actually see and kind of walk a piece of luggage going through and ask questions, et cetera. And then it opens up. It's really explore the building on your own. You don't need a ticket. You don't need to have visitor pass. It's not a secured area at that point in time. The following week, October 10th, will be the official day. We didn't want to cram it all into one day because on that day, we will be relocating existing equipment as a terminal gradient into the site so that we're allowed this will officially be the new security check of the airport. That is right around the corner. Two weeks away. It's just about two weeks away from this opportunity. Super excited. Once that happens, it is very intrusive right now. I don't know if you've fallen out recently or gone downstairs. Extremely intrusive construction. No longer in a private area to construct this outward inside of our terminal. The lines downstairs are a little shifted around and the ICIC points are a little shifted around. We do have signs and I'll continue to say, please part of our appearance as we're under construction. But after October 11th, the queueing line checkpoint will open and then we'll start renovating evil security checkpoint, which will be able to expand our queueing space to uniform. That would be completely renovated, probably around November timeframe. So phasing of the opening of the project, but officially open just in a couple of weeks. So TSA goes through all their training in advance of that, obviously. What's really amazing is originally we weren't planning on bringing new equipment into the building. We're gonna be using existing, which I guess is a catch on two, right? There are use to this, this movement, but because TSA was able to find new equipment, get it operational and certified, it's been certified for about a month now. So TSA agents have been training in constant time. Would like for the first few days, will the others still be available if there's glitches or anything here at work? So it's a hard one. Yes and no. Not all of the equipment, so the big machines that they have, the actual piece of luggage goes through. Those will stay there for a while. They're not gonna, it's not gonna be usable really because the X-ray machines that you put your arms up and all those things, those will be relocated. Those are the things that are gonna work. It'll be checked out, it needs to work. So we should bring a lot of luggage for the SOFCO. It's very, very, very good. The good part is, they're only gonna do one checkpoint at a time. So they'll take the machine to the, let's just say it more, I can't remember if that's the first one. Move it into this area, make sure the two of these lanes are operational. The old two lanes will still be operational in the South and we'll open those. So it'll transition to make sure that we'll always have two lines of medical until we have the four. And it's gonna go very soon. No doubt. Right after out until we're 11th, we started facing our terminal renovations. That's a $2 million renovation project that is completely outside of the funding of this particular building. That's new funding sources. That's where two new automatic exit lanes come into play. So we don't always have to fish in any of the showties of bastards teams at the exit doors from now on. They are automatic exit lanes. There's a lot of, there's other creatures in there. The whole footprint of that both come or stuff shift pretty dramatically. It also opens up expanded space. Skinny Pancake and Hudson News have been absolutely outstanding to look at their footprint, to look at what they can do to accommodate this change. Hudson News in fact wants to invest heavily into the airport again, because we've asked them to relocate their site. We also wanted to expand in footprint. They have a very small footprint over there and 60% of our passengers. So about 350, 450,000 passengers go through that terminal under status. So it gives them the opportunity to expand that footprint. As part of that exchange, we are appreciating potentially increases in length of time as well, which we think is very fair. We'll talk hundreds of thousands of dollars of investment. And then the big projects, what we call the North renovation, this is the $35 million year mark that we're moving forward with. It has still not passed legislation yet. So that still has to be moving forward. We're expecting that to occur early in 2023. However, we want to be prepared. There's slight risk associated with the design work, but there's also risk if we don't move this forward that we potentially could miss some deadlines. So we're moving forward with a very small scope of work to start the initial design of the North renovation, which is the demolition of gates three, four, five, six, the small wing of the North headquarters in the renovation we have, moving towards the air traffic control building in Spain. And so they'll look very similar to what we just finished building, but just on the ground. Last quarter, we're talking a few years apart of us before we're shoveling the ground, but we'll get closer and closer every day. A few years before shoveling the ground, we had to think realistically, 2024, we'll start, and that might be, yeah, I think realistically, that's appropriate. That's if we hit those thresholds of legislation, even having a bill signed by the president, going through FAA, going through grant applications, getting it answered then. We are looking at alternatives on how we bid this as well. Not sure if you remember how we bid this project over here, which Larry, what was it, what was the type of? We did design build on the TIP project code, yeah. Which was great from a cash flow perspective. We only had to design approximately 30%, and then we applied for the grant, typically FAA requires 100% on design, which could be a 10% share. And in a case like this, we have a $14-15 million project, talking about $1.5 million before we have a grant. And we're trying to look at alternatives for the scenario up on the door again, so we can analyze the cash flow scenario and make sure we're not moving too far. Design ability, however, requires extremely stringent bid requirements. Most difficultly, it requires minimum three competitive bids that is going to be very hard. In fact, it was very hard on this project right here. And if you don't have three competitive bids, you have to start the process essentially over or until you did the design work. So we're here with a lot of work with the FAA to move this forward and complete support of the FAA as well. Hotel, in past meetings, I did advise that we were hopeful to get this started in the formal. We've had a couple of snacks, so we will not be starting this year. We are working with the hotel company, the new partnership, and it's better than ever. And there is a winner of those. And we're excited to get that forward because we will need a grand lease amendment eventually. And the site plan looks the same, but everything essentially looks the same. There might be some adjustment that we might have to make. We're looking at some time next year, but I don't know, we are making progress compared to earlier. And then just a few staff accomplishments. We're getting ready for winter season, unfortunately. So Dave and his crew, Shelley and Rick Rook, the maintenance team are really clean it up, getting our stove ready to go. They're working extremely hard, they're still long hours, they're still painting, doing a lot of work in the tunnel. Rain doesn't help when we have to readjust. Lots of things happening, and I just wanted to note that how incredibly hard it is working right now. We had another recent retirement, Brian Kosowski, he's been with the airport just a few years. We have advertisements right now for two new positions. Sorry, not new, but two positions, two major positions. One is a electrician, one is a maintenance worker. Brian was on previous electrician. We have two master electricians, so we're actively advertising them. And then finally, the reason that Dave and Hannah were digitally this past Monday, they were representing the Burlington Airport at probably one of the largest conferences in the country, hosted by airport councils, International North America chapter. The 2000, I think you said two or 2,500 attendees. So Dave and Hannah just came back from Minneapolis at one o'clock this morning. I didn't tell them they had to come in. Heavy lid. But they said it was an awesome conference, I don't know if they were here, and I want to mention anything but I'm jealous, that's all. That's something else you are Monday. All right, that's all I have. All right, thank you, Nick. We'll move on to item 1101, the follow-up items. So this goes to the public rate, you know, orientation. And I know that the city legal staff is pretty, and these days when you're in, there's any update. That's good, when you might see them. I think it's the last time we spoke, we had another attorney at State of Vermont. So we are pretty lean in me, but that's okay. So we're a year or two at this point. There are three attorneys in the city attorney office, right? I think three or four vacant seats. So it is difficult to schedule this with them right now. I think either Hannah or Shelby mentioned it to you. We do have an outside council that could potentially come in and brief all of you on how great to know Robert Schrupp, maybe Robert Schrupp's order if that's what you want. And of course, the public meeting loss, which I think would be important. So we can start working with them on that if you wish, just to advise because of the limitations. And don't get me wrong, we still get credible service from the city attorney's office, but there are some very specific outside counsel from the airport right now. So we do have a little bit more outside counsel than we used to on various projects. And that's okay. And of course, everything still goes through city attorney's office. Great. All right. So item 12 is the executive session. We actually need a motion to enter into executive session. So does someone want to make the motion to go into executive session to discuss a real estate lease negotiation. I'm going to go into the second session to discuss real estate lease negotiations. Do I hear a second? Second. And all those in favor of moving into executive session, please sign by saying aye. Aye. Any opposed. Okay. So we just need to disconnect the channel 17 or something. Then we can begin. So we have a separate. Zoom link. Okay. It's only Dave and Larry. Right now. Okay. So they'll join us on a separate. It's up to you and other boards that I'm associated with. Usually we have the executive session at the end. Okay. And then the journey begins.