 The design development review commission is made up of volunteers with expertise or interest in historic preservation and design Excuse me. We generally meet on the second Thursday of the month to review cases Staff to the commission are our urban design and historic preservation staff They are available to answer questions if you have them But please do not interrupt proceedings if you do indeed need to speak with one of them The meeting generally proceeds with the staff calling the case and describing it I will call for the applicant to come forward afterward and to add to the basic description of the request if necessary Or if the applicant wishes to do so if so the applicant should keep the presentation to ten minutes or less The commissioners will then have the opportunity to ask questions at this point I will ask if there is anyone in the audience who wishes to speak for or against the proposal Audience comments shall be kept to two minutes per person If there is the applicant will have an opportunity to respond this rebuttal shall not exceed five minutes in most of the cases We will make a decision tonight after all information has been presented If your case is denied or if you feel that our decision was made an error You and anyone with standing have the opportunity to appeal it within 30 days of the decision If you plan to speak about a specific project, you must have signed in the sheet is at the back of the room Also and so that members of the public understand Commissioners are under strict instructions to avoid discussing DDRC meetings and Applications with members of the public or with each other outside of these proceedings to avoid ex parte communications If you wish to speak during the course of these proceedings, please stand and raise your right hand You affirm to tell the truth in these proceedings Thank you Would staff administered I know that's me would could we have roll call, please? Mr. Bogg night Mr.. Broom here mr. Cone here miss Moore here miss Fuller-Wilt here mr. Savry here we have a quorum Thanks Does the agenda still stand? There's one change since publication on the historic portion of the agenda case number three Which was 2431 Park Street? Has been withdrawn The DDRC utilizes a consent agenda for those projects which require DDRC review But which meet the guidelines and typically require no discussion If anyone wishes to discuss an item on the consent agenda I will ask that you speak up after the consent agenda is read and we can pull the item for discussion Onto the regular agenda the staff could read the consent agenda, please 1507 Richland Street a request for certificate of design approval for exterior changes and preliminary Certification for the Bailey bill for an individual landmark building in the Landmark district second is 124 and 122 Pickin Street and 1606 1608 through 1638 1640 Honoree Avenue This is a request for certificate of design approval for exterior changes and additions and preliminary Certifications for the Bailey bill in the Wales Garden architectural conservation district 1407 Confederate Avenue requests for preliminary certification for the Bailey bill in the Cottontown Bellevue architectural conservation district 601 Main Street Request for certificate of design approval for renovation to an existing structure in the city center design development district and Finally 2112 Sumter Street a request for a certificate of design approval for renovation in addition to an existing building in the North Main Corridor design district And we also have approval of the June minutes. Thank you Is there anyone who wishes to take an item off the consent agenda? Oh? Not yet It's not it could I have a motion to approve the consent agenda and the meeting minutes, please Mr. Chairman, I'll make the motion that we approve the consent agenda in the meeting minutes. I have a second Assuming no discussion. Could I have a vote, please? Mr. Bach night? Mr. Broom. Yes, Mr. Cohn. Yes, Ms. Moore. Yes, Miss Fuller-Wilt. Yes, Mr. Savory. Yes, motion passes Thank You Could we Have the first case, please the first case is Under the urban design agenda, this is 2203 2301 and 2307 Main Street. We also our screens aren't working by the way. Oh Yeah, we need to see if it suddenly pop up I go on hopefully they'll get it. Okay. We need to pause again. We can this is a Vacant lot that is proposed a request for certificate of design approval for exterior changes and site improvements On a lot that will be a restaurant smokehouse and beer garden The project consists of two parts There's actually the primary property which will be used for the restaurant and beer garden And then a remote property a couple of blocks up that will serve as parking for the restaurant The primary property currently has an existing auto repair garage building an accessory building and a storage building All of which will be reused Staff is encouraged that the applicants are reusing all the existing buildings on the site and using site improvements to Incorporate them into a cohesive development And the staff recommends approval of the request conditional upon working with staff on the right of way improvements Adjacent to the building and adjacent to the remote parking lot to be consistent with city standards and provide a seamless transition to the private property and Walker Westbrook is the architect and he is going to do a presentation You guys have your images We do okay My name is Walker Westbrook. I'm the project manager on this job representing design and engineering And I have with me toby rumbart rave is representing Martin's barbecue restaurants who is going to be occupying the project As you see here, we have an aerial shot of the site describing illustrating the location of the primary site which will house The Martin's barbecue restaurant beer garden as well as the smokehouse On the corner of Conard court at 20 to 3 as Described and then further down between Brian and Bellevue streets. We're proposing surface parking lot which would house 37 surface parking spaces To alleviate The limited space we have for on-site parking Essentially what we're trying to accomplish on the proposed parking site we're Creating a buffer zone on the rear of the site and the adjacent property lines against the residential areas And providing masonry fence to help alleviate any Abtrusions we may provide with the traffic on the site as well as any noise coming from the parking lot As well as providing some street improvements to the right of way Including a masonry low wall as well as plantings including shade trees and shrubbery as well as pedestrian Amendments to help with the parking reduction in the overlay district We're also providing some limited directional signage to help pedestrians locate Martin's barbecue location down the street We Move to the Martin's barbecue location We're hoping to utilize the future development of the Main Street corridor to help enhance the pedestrian connection from the parking area to the main site by Introducing some landscaping elements in front of the building as well as providing Open garage doors to the main right of way as well as Trying to to engage the corner of kind of court and Main Street by providing the main focal area of the beer garden surrounding the accessory building South corner of the site really we're trying to Concentrate most of the energy on the site towards that corner and really try to activate the street frontage on Main Street Within the site. We're also adding two accessible parking spaces to keep those within close proximity to the main building as well as reusing the existing Existing building on site Towards the rear as just storage storage building and future considerations I Guess getting into the actual building with the main large building We are playing on reusing that as the main restaurant will house the kitchen areas And then a bar as well as a new entry addition on to the corner, which is it within the the main entry plaza That's the beer garden as well as new landscaping areas The building on the rear which is currently used as a storage outbuilding we're planning on converting into the smoke house With an accessory bar More is just a casual setting and then connecting the two with a breezeway and sort of service service aisle All the Sort of interstitial spaces on the site will be used as a outdoor seating in beer garden areas and then the area to the left-hand portion of the site behind smoke house Existing building for maintaining for storage will just be used as a buffer zone between the adjacent residential property to the left to the west of the site as far as the materials go the existing building is currently mostly painted brick we're planning to Do repair to the bricks and then repaint the brick using a new gray color similar to the Martin's trade dress Even with the darker industrial look and then adding new brick in a darker red color at the entry tower to distinguish that from the rest of the building Planning to use a galvanized metal roofing on the new awnings which should help to engage the pedestrian on a Pedestrian scale rather than have just a big flush Existing face in the building and then reusing the existing garage door opening with a new glass garage door to try to further open up that pedestrian facade And then on the kind of court elevation, we're planning on proposing a new trash enclosure. It's going to be plaid in a Orgated court and steel This would be set off of the kind of court. This would not be directly on the street edge set back behind dry lyle approximately 40 feet or so Again, we're planning on enclosing the Gear garden with a post wouldn't post fence with metal welded wire mesh So I was enhancing the landscaping at the perimeter questions Any questions for the applicants? Yes, the existing Where's the kind of court? Yes that corner. I notice they're off-street parking I noticed you got a curb cat right there near the corner. It's not going to stay or is that gonna be with a curve Are you talking about I guess directly behind the accessible handicaps or The accessible parking space. Yeah the first curb cut. I believe part of that's existing and we're We were proposing to recontour that curb Just to allow a little easier access to that off-site parking So it's not facing the street, but I noticed that there is no north elevation Can you describe what you're doing on the north side of the building on the north side of the building? Essentially, we're going to be treating that with a similar design intent basically You'll be painting it with a similar color scheme There are existing windows on that facade that face the adjacent property And because that's going to be the kitchen we're going to be Adding a new wall and into your face for the routing utilities as well. So we will essentially be closing those up Excuse me, can you go back to the plan? I just want to orient myself This looks like the first the first windows you turn the corner. Maybe you're not blocking that up The first I guess we're the queuing area is the window in the northeast corner. Yes, that's correct Yeah, that one will still remain open and then once we get into the kitchen area That would have the wall Thanks I have another question regarding that north elevation You're gonna put punch windows on that elevation. Is that what you said? Punch windows? They're already there. They're already there. I was questioning the fire code Sometimes those windows open to make sure the property has to be fire rated I was just curious I believe that's something we'll have to I guess work with very close to property line on that if not right up against it so we may need to fire rate that wall or some It sounds really kind of outside of our purview, but it looks like if the first window you go and leave as a window It's far enough away from that other facade and if you're blocking up the rest again It's outside of our purview, but that's gonna give you your fire rating again, though Not not really, but I'm glad that you're leaving the first window glazed. Are there any other questions? Closer to the microphone Patrick Martin is the individual owner of Martins He started in national Tennessee and currently open to store in Charleston. It's just this latest store Patrick loves the idea of renovating buildings his biggest store in downtown Nashville is a renovation of a building So he would have us come to a place and find old buildings and renovate them versus tearing down and his reason for this This site is to see someone of an industrialist so that it being a car place Really kind of blended to what he wanted and then the other piece that he loves is a little little house It's right there in the front that used to be the it's like 200 square feet tiny But when Patrick came to a site, he said I want to make this a campus For the neighborhood, you know for people to come too So just some ideas that Patrick really loves to renovate stuff instead of tearing down to do and so that's kind of where our design basis comes from Thanks Is there anyone here who wishes to speak for or against the application? Evens foreign and I believe right You've been foreign and I think right. That's I have a Scott pageant I live at 1101 Bryan Street, which is one of the streets bordering Coming off Main Street there My wife and my wife and I have been on Bryan Street at 1101 since 1986 Our home was built in 1889. So our main concern is about The way the traffic off of Maine on to Brian There's nothing there to if I could get that slide of that parking lot with Brian there's a Right there where you turn off main on to Brian Brian's only so about Five blocks long it goes from Main Street to Park Street All of those houses are older and we only have one car driveways And so all of our parking is on the street We're concerned about parking on the street for residents Just don't want to go to the Nashville model of having to have a permit to park on my own Street and the What the entrance way into that parking lot on Brian Street, which is I don't know when's the last time you might have been there there's a bakery on that corner and then there's that empty lot on the other side and It's already kind of congested there a couple of times a day just to turn on to Brian let alone to turn immediately right Into that parking lot, which is a concern to us. We're seven doors down There was just a new house completed within the last year. That's directly behind that. It sits almost right up against that property line but I guess that'll be their problem for today, but we're seven doors down on the right, we've got a concern about the Parking we've got a concern about the traffic since it's being called a campus and The we've got children that live in Nashville. They know the success of this barbecue Restaurant they also I had asked them if they could check into what he'd done the property values around it since they had redeveloped around residential areas there and they said everything was fine except for the smell and the And the traffic So I guess that speaks to their success somehow with the traffic I'm concerned if those of you who might have gone through five points when the urban cook house is fired up No matter what time of day it is know the smell and I'm concerned about the smell of pig cooking 365 days a year All day and all year my wife and I've obviously been there long We've been waiting on this development on North Main Street for a long time and we're all in favor of it But we just wanted to voice our concerns at this time. Thank you. Thank you anyone else in support or opposition? Okay, any Would the applicant like to respond? Obviously success does bring that but we as Martin's intentionally went and bought a couple more lots to try to take care of some of the parking needs Our operators try to work with the local people to make sure that that doesn't happen as best as possible There's a lot of area to park down there. That's not the residential. So and the smell You know, it's it's Happens and doesn't happen depending on the day and the temperature We try to take care of putting our any of this any of that stuff that comes off of the pits They try to place it higher so that it gets out into the wind field But certainly would welcome discussions with the neighborhood Our operations director couldn't be here today But he specifically said to to throw out there that he's he's welcome to talk to the neighbors at any time because That's really important that they are neighbors and not just you know, they're not a big company that comes in and takes over They want to be part of the neighborhood Thanks, and Almost every part of this discussion. Unfortunately was outside of our purview anyway we we we can't deal with smell and If it meets zoning and planning it meets zoning and planning. So we really are a an aesthetic review body but Certainly understand your concern any discussion on the part of commissioners Okay Could I have a motion, please? Mr. Chairman? I'll take a shot at it I'll means I'll make the motion that we approve the applicants request for a certificate of design approval at 2203 2301 2307 Main Street and Finding that it is conforming with the guidelines of this district and that the applicant Works with staff For the right-of-way improvements adjacent to the building and adjacent to the remote parking lot to be consistent with city standards and provide a seamless Transition to private property. Is there a second? Second any discussion? Good we have a vote, please Mr. Botnite, yes, mr. Broom. Yes, mr. Cohn. Yes, Miss Filler-Wilt Yes, that's more. Yes, mr. Savory. Yes motion passes Okay, next case, please This is a request for a certificate of design approval to move to circa 1920 structures Currently located at 615 and 621 to 625 Whaley Street into the Grandview architectural conservation district These two homes are not currently protected by a preservation overlay or landmark status And this is the first request to move a structure into the district since it was put into place in 2010 Staff placed the project on the regular agenda due to the unusual nature of the request Although the project has a recommendation for approval from staff These structures feature a central partial with front porch hip roof and six over six wood windows They were built shortly after the Pacific mill company purchased the Grandview and Olympia mills and Have a similar form to contributing structures within the district built around the same time And they represent a second phase of development from within the district The proposed new location for these two structures is at the dead end of Church Street Street closures in that location over time have created. What is in essence a cul-de-sac? That is on the edge of the neighborhood these changes have resulted in an unusual lock configuration Which has a minimal street front edge? The applicants plan to locate the two structures at the rear of the lot behind an existing building that is currently addressed as 224 Church Street Staff finds that the proposal generally meets the height scale setback orientation Roof shape proportion and rhythm of openings criteria Although the spacing is not ideal. It will not be highly visible from the street Lastly the materials textures and details are generally consistent. However, both structures have had their doors replaced And one structure has vinyl siding the applicants have agreed to remove the vinyl siding and replace the front doors To be compliant with the guidelines So staff recommendations are as follows Staff finds that the relocation of 615 Whaley Street to 224 Church Street or the adjacent vacant lot complies with section 10 of the Granby Architectural Conservation District guidelines and Recommends granting a certificate of design approval with the following conditions The vinyl siding be removed within six months of relocation The half fan front door be removed and replaced with the door that meets the guidelines within six months of relocation The new foundation will have a brick veneer Porch flooring will be treated tongue and groove wood to match the dimensions of historic examples and all other details deferred to staff and for the relocation of 621 625 Whaley Street to 224 Church Street or the adjacent vacant lot That it complies with section 10 of the Granby Architectural Conservation District guidelines and recommends granting a certificate of design approval with the following conditions The existing steel door be replaced with the door that meets the guidelines within six months of relocation The new foundations have a brick veneer and the new porch flooring be treated tongue and groove wood to match the dimensions of historic Examples and all of the details deferred to staff. Thank you. Does the applicant wish to speak? Even sworn in. Yes, say your name, please Good afternoon, Keithy and come here my business partner Michael Kennedy You might remember us from maybe six months back when we went through the same process to build The same saltbox houses in the same district that we got approval for so as you can see we're back Brave enough to attempt something like this we um We have a knack for historical homes These the house mover that we've been in discussion with Seems to think that they were built as an ex for an executive at the mill just to base on how they were built and chimneys that they have So I think they have some historical You know respect to them and that's what we're trying to do We're trying to keep them from getting bulldozed because I think you guys are probably familiar with the project of What that property owner who were taking the houses from that he what his plans are he wanted to just bulldoze them We're gonna try to save them Megan We've been working closely with her and we're we agree with everything that she has to you know for the project That was quick any questions for the applicant? Thank you Anyone wish to speak for or against the application? Good afternoon, Mr. Chairman commissioners Bob gyle 314 palm all street appearing on behalf of the Granby Mill Village Neighborhood Association and the Mill District Alliance in Support of the request. I just want to thank the staff particularly Megan McNich for working with the applicants And the community on this We support the staff's analysis of the Granby design guidelines think they're an appropriate application of the guidelines in this instance We also want to thank the the owners of the existing structures on Whaley Street the Shiv Mard owners who indeed as the applicant stated intended to demolish the structures We think this is an appropriate compromise effort at saving historic structures Particularly relocating them to the periphery of the neighborhood adjacent to a non-conforming single-story structure So we support the application and I want to thank the staff again for working with Everybody to make sure that we save some of the historic fabric of the mill community. Thank you. Good. Thank you Assuming the applicant doesn't wish to rebut that. Is there anybody else who has would like to speak for against the application very good Any discussion on the part of commission commissioners? Could I have a motion, please? Or do we need two motions, right? I have First motion for the Bailey bill, please. I'll give this a go Sweet we need to do two one first issue in the Bailey bill first or They go together, but for the Bailey bill, right? No, they're both for relocation right, but for each structure individually there are two structures So one for six 15 we have four motions. No, just two. Okay, I guess I'm a little confused Just a request for a certificate Certificate of design approval for relocation relocation. Okay. All right, okay Should be easy enough. We'll see I'll make the motion that we approve the applicant the applicant's certificate request for certificate of design approval For the relocation of 615 Whaley Street to 224 Church Street or the adjacent vacant lot In compliance with section 10 of the Granby architectural conservation district guidelines and recommend greener With the following conditions that the vinyl siding be removed within six months the relocation The half-fanned door be removed and replaced with a door that meets the guidelines within six months of the relocation The new foundations will have a brick veneer The new porch flooring will be treated tongue and groove would dimension the dimensions of the historic examples and all other details deferred to staff Second About please Mr. Botnite. Yes, Mr. Broom. Yes, Mr. Cone. Yes, Miss Fuller-Wilt Yes, Ms. Moore. Yes, Mr. Savery. Yes, motion passes. Thank you While you're on a roll, Mr. Cone, would you like to make every motion? This one to go to I'll make the motion that we approve the applicant certificate or request for certificate of design approval at 621 through 625 Whaley Street For that property being relocated that structure to be relocated to 224 Church Street or the adjacent Vacant lot and that it complies with section 10 of the Granby architectural conservation district guidelines with the following conditions that The applicant replaces the existing steel door with a door that meets the guidelines within six months of the relocation The new foundations will have a brick veneer The new porch flooring will be treated tongue and groove would to match the dimensions of the historic examples and all other details deferred to staff Very good. Is there a second? Any discussion Have a vote, please Mr. Botnite. Yes, Mr. Broom. Yes, Mr. Cone. Yes Yes, Ms. Moore. Yes, Mr. Savery. Yes, motion passes. Thank you And I think that's all of the cases we have other business today I think you guys have to go to executive session So I guess you need a motion to do that I would just suggest that there is some matters to discuss in executive session So if the boards inclined to make that motion, I'm here to Here to speak with you. I'll move that we go into executive session. Is there a second second? And I guess we have to vote Mr. Botnite. Yes, Mr. Broom. Yes, Mr. Cone. Yes, Ms. Moore. Yes, Ms. Fuller-Wilt. Yes, Mr. Savery. Yes, motion passes Could I have a motion to come out of executive session, please? Second. Second. Was any action taken in the executive session? I was about to get to that. There was no action taken in executive session And so we have a vote. Could we have a vote? Mr. Botnite. Yes, Mr. Broom. Yes, Mr. Cone. Yes, Ms. Moore. Yes, Ms. Fuller-Wilt. Yes, Mr. Savery. Yes, motion passes Is there any more business? No, there's not. We have a motion to adjourn So moved. Second? Second All those in favor? Aye Adjourned