 So please tell us what your name is my name is Everett and I'm an intern here awesome Where where are you originally from San Francisco area, California? Nice, so for all of our California is watching out there This is one of yours and he's one of what we're borrowing him. So thank you So Everett tell us just start from the beginning man Yeah, so I grew up Basically, no knowledge of the Bible no knowledge about Jesus just typical secular upbringing no Sunday school nothing like that and You know as life progressed I started wondering, you know the deeper questions because What I was grew up with didn't explain everything so in high school. I started, you know dabbling with the spiritual questions Philosophical questions and sort of got into Buddhism meditation Started smoking marijuana getting a little hippie-ish, you know trying to I love the deep questions going deep and stuff like that so um and Then as college came around I still loved this and it was my passion like philosophy and and spirituality But I took a degree in business just for the practical reasons because I like studying that on my own so I started meeting a lot of people because I went to Boulder, which is like the New Age capital of the United States and I started meeting a lot of people in the New Age and I thought it was fascinating and More and more I just knew that the supernatural was real and that what I was learning in psychology and then and then Addressing sort of mental health it there was a cap, you know It didn't explain everything about the nature of the mind and thoughts and emotions so I knew that the supernatural was real and You know, I started witnessing You know people who who were tormented in ways that that psychology couldn't explain, you know They were supernatural in their nightmares and their dreams and in ways like that And so I met a lot of people in the New Age who seem to have known how to address these things With their own little modalities their own healing modalities. I was so into healing I was looking for like what is the best way to heal? You know, there are so many people suffering I went through my bout of depression anxiety. I fractured my back in high school. I had to quit football That's when I started smoking a lot of weed and getting into those things. So, you know, I had my own issues, but I Was so passionate about finding what is the the ideal way to heal and and how can I help those around me? I really felt called towards helping others Just as my calling and and so in Boulder. I just met a lot of people who who Psychics Channels, you know energy Energy healers and these types of modalities that I was sort of experimenting in trying to look for, you know What was effective? Little did I know there's a big dark Realm of that and you're opening a lot of doors that you don't realize and that Deception is real even if you have good intentions if you're deceived you are going to pay for it And it could cost your soul literally and I didn't realize that until you know I was saved by Jesus Christ, which I never in a million years would have thought would be happening to me I like the whole word Christian Christianity. You just felt like outdated old Religion to control people, you know, it's just some some old things. I didn't really know much about it but these kind of Supernatural things started happening to me and One of them was I was just having lunch with my friend and I get a FaceTime on my phone And I pull out the phone. I'm like, oh it's from a guy named Luke Abel and I'm like Luke Abel And I'm like trying to think about his name. Oh, this is a guy on freshman year on campus He said hey, do you believe in God and he like tried to have a conversation with me and I'm like, oh I love these types of conversations, you know, not a hundred percent sure whether God's real blah blah told him a little about Buddhism and We exchanged numbers just because I wanted to be nice to him never ended up doing Bible study or talking or anything like that But three years later here. He is FaceTiming me and I'm like, okay I'm gonna have lunch with my friend and later that day. I said hey, what's up, man? And he's like hey, what's up, and I'm like you FaceTime me And he's like no, I didn't and and then he's like number one I don't FaceTime people and number two you're three years back in my texts and I'm like Okay, the only the only possible reasons for this is either he's like some psychotic religious dude trying to convert me with this weird, you know making me think this is some crazy thing or Maybe it was some sort of glitch or you know, maybe there's something divine here. Maybe he's lying So I'm like alright I felt something just divine about it and then the curiosity of like I want to look into this guy's eyes and and ask him like Did you click FaceTime like did you did you call me? So that was an element but I felt something divine kind of pushing me towards learning about Christianity because I learned about all the other different religions and kind of modalities but never really gave any thought to the Bible, you know or to Christianity and So I'm like alright. I'm gonna go learn about this and I did Bible study with him once a week and He was praying over me teaching me the basics, you know The wages of sin is death and Jesus lived a perfect sinless life for us And he died for us on the cross and all we have to do is to believe in him to be saved and I was like, oh man this feel sorry for this guy, you know, he's He's This guy is just settling settling for this, you know to feel good, you know He's settling for Christianity just to feel good and not explore the real deeper questions so part of it was like me trying to help him with his deception and So like a month and a half go by and he's really just trying to convert me trying to you know bring salvation and and I'm just like, you know, I Felt he was a little too pushy. I'm like, I'm gonna go study it on my own and So we stopped doing Bible study. We stay in contact a little I try reading the Bible walking to class I'm reading like Habakkuk or something not really knowing where to start and I ended up putting it down for a while but I started God was there moving and I started in my life in the New Age and and in this in this quest for For searching, you know the demonic, you know, because entities are real I would see people channel entities their whole body would change and they do automatic handwriting They'd have these like divine teachings and doctrines about, you know the nature of reality and souls and psychics and all these things and Talking to the dead where they can literally tell you what, you know, your your your parent was like So you start to believe these things you're like, wow, this is fascinating, you know Every human has these capabilities and everyone should activate these capabilities. That's what I thought so You know, I'm going I'm doing my meditation. I'm trying to you know, just maximize life in every single way I I honestly believed that there was an evil force I believed in Satan before I believed in Jesus because I knew there was an evil force Attacking people trying to dumb people down trying to to make people depressed and kill themselves And I really felt called towards fighting that so my quest in the New Age was you know I thought I was like a light worker, you know trying to bring light to where there was darkness and So I see these entities and I start watching Bob Larson I said because I start researching the demonic and I read few of his books another like some like Catholic one and then some other New Age entity removal books and so I'm really diving into the to the subject and I'm watching a lot of Bob Larson like man, there's something going on here There's definitely something going on this guy has a gifting this guy is some sort of you know a supernatural ability so I'm trying to People in my life who are you know, I'm trying to help I'm trying to look for like the demonic root because there are people, you know involved in and and you know worshiping astrology Goddesses and these spirits and things and you know from what I was watching like that seems a little sketch You know, there's good and there's bad entities, but I didn't really know what meant a good and a bad spirit so I started having encounters with people manifesting and me being able to sense these things and It would manifest just like a Bob video, but it was a smirk the whole time It was a little laugh and then and then they would come back and say what's happening And it would be it would be like what a Bob video does and I was trying to use my New Age techniques I was trying to use my meditation techniques just to push it out You know with my light that I've been building my light through meditation and then no fear and all these things nothing was working Nothing was working and after a really big one You know that I honestly felt like I was I honestly felt guilty after this one I'm like, you know, I don't know if this is you know, multiple personality or an inner child Or maybe it's a spirit that this person was because this person was channeling entities, but they were tormented They had suicidal thoughts. They had depression and I wanted to to do what I could to help that and So after a one big event I look and I'm like I need to know what this is What is this and I look up Bob Larson and I look on a schedule and he's in my town in a month and So I'm like, oh sweet. I'm seeing this guy. I've seen him on TV on YouTube. I got to meet this guy So I call his office and I talked to his assistant and I asked him I'm like, is there any way I can meet with Bob one-on-one and she's like, yeah You can just schedule an appointment and I'm like, okay And she's like, let me check and see if he has any appointments pretty last minute So she goes on hold and she says yeah We have one appointment left out of like some 40 that he had scheduled for that week that he was in Denver and I'm like book it booked it right away and I brought two of my friends who are unbelievers as well to his seminar and we witnessed this woman who had been tormented with a spirit Divorces horrible relationships with men you could feel her soul just struggling, you know We are we could just feel something in that room going through and multiple people manifested and we saw the power of Jesus Christ And this demon was scared this demon was so scared of Jesus and this crucifix that Bob was holding up to it And we were like wow like there's this is real and and then she was delivered and then just this massive love Just came throughout the room and everyone was just in such an amazing state of like love and Enjoy and then I go up on prayer line to talk to one of his ministers And he's he's trying to tell me like you have no authority over these things Unless you have the authority of Christ unless you have the Holy Spirit and you don't get that until you confess Jesus Christ as Lord and Savior Come on. Let's just take a moment there. That's our authority And You know, I'm like, you know, I still think Jesus some enlightened guy You know, he knew of some other knowledge to give this power. Maybe there's something here, but maybe I don't think he's God You know, I don't think he's God in flesh But right next to me this guy's fully manifesting like Like right and I'm like talking to this guy. I don't even want to be talking to him I just want to be looking at this guy getting a demon cast out of him by one of Bob's ministers and then another dude next to me and my two friends are like, what is this? This is insane and and We end up talking to a lot of people there and they're all just so nice and But I don't I'm still kind of like no, I think I got to do more research got to do more research. I'm not sure so we leave and the next day is my appointment with Bob and One on one meet him in the lobby. We go up the elevator We go into this suite in the hotel and he's got four of his ministers there. He's like all right if they're in here I'm like, yeah, that's good the first 40 minutes of our talk was just debating just spiritual Topics to the Bible the claims of the Bible all these things everything that I believed why I believed we were just back and forth back and forth back and forth and but during this time I just felt this conviction kind of brewing in me and It came to a point where I remember just looking away from Bob looking out the window and this massive sense of importance came across me and just fell on me and something so important came over me and I'm like You know, is this really what life's about? You know, is this just believing in Jesus Christ? Just believing, you know, and I felt this such strong importance. Why aren't why is it so hard to just believe this and I Felt my soul was in danger. Honestly at this stubbornness. There was this stubbornness in me So I'm like I eventually make up in my mind. I'm like, I don't want to I don't I don't want this stubbornness anymore And and I I feel like I feel like there's something here and I look at Bob and I say Bob I'm ready and he looks at me. He's like because the point was just getting It was getting drawn out, you know, nothing was nothing was happening. I'm like, I'm ready She's out of nowhere. He's like So he puts his hand on me He leads me through the sinners salvation's prayer and at this moment. I knew my whole life was gonna change Come on, that's worthy of a little bit of praise guys And you know, I said the prayer and the moment I opened my eyes from that prayer I Just started Balling and weeping and his love just consumed me and I had an encounter with Jesus And it felt like this all of this all of this sin that I didn't even know was sin that was in me I felt so sorry, but then instant forgiveness instant love. He had been with me my whole life He had been sending me these signs and I was continuously Rebelling in ways, but he was sending me coming after me seeking me and this love Like he knew my soul more than anyone in my whole life knew my soul more than I knew who I was He knew me more than I could even imagine and I was just weeping and balling and all of the ministers were around me Everyone was crying and I got up and I thanked Bob I thanked all of them and I I left that place and got into my car and just boom started crying again Crying and crying and crying. I couldn't believe it. You know, I felt like a new person I literally felt like it was the most important moment of my whole life that my whole life had been leading up to and And I just kept crying and the next day I went home the next day. I bought a Bible I put in worship music and I just stuck my face in that and tried to understand it as much as I could I'm like, I'm so far behind. I got to know the truth. This is the truth, you know And so that one month after I was saved I cried more than the previous 10 years Just in awe at his love Honestly, that's what it was and just tells and some repentance to things that I did not want to live with anymore Things that I didn't even know I had in my soul character flaws You know things in my thoughts and my intentions were just so Impure and I didn't want to live with that anymore and in his grace Month by month month by month just things just started leaving me just problems I had loneliness and depression and hopelessness that I didn't even know were down there They just were leaving me and that's what I see as the grace of God. I wasn't doing anything I was just being with Jesus fixing my eyes on Jesus and all these things I was trying to meditate through and help myself feel from or being healed without me knowing only months later I realized they were they were gone from my life and Amen Now you were a pretty popular guy still are pretty popular guy You had a pretty big circle of friends. Can you tell me a little bit about what that started to look like? Yeah, so, you know, I knew that something massive changed with me and I knew that I want my I wanted my friends to know, you know, I wanted my friends to experience what I experienced so with I would tell them my testimony my close friends and Hallelujah, many of them were saved and gave them their lives to Christ And then others, you know, that it was just associates within the New Age There's I had no desire, you know, I had no desire and there were there were some were very against Christ Who you know, I couldn't couldn't tell them to there were others who I did try to tell, you know, but Yeah, and then then my mom ended up accepting Christ months later and God's been moving in my whole family and in every heart. He's just been working and working and working and You know, I believe he's gonna move even more powerfully and and all of my friends and all my family and Yeah, it's just so amazing. He's so good. Yes. He absolutely is so okay So now I know that there are gonna be some of you that are dabbling in New Age It just is what it is. You're hearing a testimony here about the true power that is found alone in Christ and You have somebody here that can testify Directly so please tell us and for those who are watching who may be dabbling in New Age Buddhism meditation all that stuff What is your what is your advice to them? You know, I would say Research Jesus he is he is not just some other enlightened human. He is unique and he is Different than everyone else and everything else. He is God and if you want to know him just reach out to him Just just call out to him and he will reveal himself to you and there is no power greater than his power There's no force in the universe greater than his force and there's no goodness and light and holiness greater than his holiness And if you just reach out to him He will reveal himself to you and his love will consume you and he knows you more than you know yourself If you're seeking right now, you're meditating, you know You're experimenting with drugs trying to find the secret to life. The truth is in Jesus Jesus is the way the truth in the life