 It's Friday morning on reality check radio and that is the morning for our political panel, which is getting quite a following, I would have to say, if the talk and chatter and tweets and posts and whatever is anything to go by. I wanna welcome to our panel this morning, Cameron Slater, Olivia Pearson and Marty Gibson, independent journalist. Welcome all, good to see you again. Now we're all gonna have fun like we should do on these sorts of shows. Good to see you too, Paul. Thank you. And Marty, sitting somewhere near the beach, I hear. Yeah, just finished all of harvesting and the snapper are running. Oh, well. And the living is easy. Yeah. Not so much. Let's get into our topics and let's start in the States. And was it Elon Musk who kind of announced or introduced Ron DeSantis' big announcement on Twitter? What's going on there? Well, maybe Elon Musk is making a media play and trying to be the new Rupert Murdoch or the new succession Roy family type arrangement. But Musk's a smart guy. All these lefties all complained about him buying Twitter and it was gonna be terrible and it was gonna fall over and it was gonna be all of these things and it's been none of those things. And if he's sitting there, he's not endorsing Ron DeSantis as such, but he's lending his credibility to Ron DeSantis, which is a smart move from DeSantis. And it's also signaling to the Trump type people that actually here's someone who's got a little bit of a heft, a guy who has stood up to the left in Florida, who stood up to all of the COVID nonsense from Biden, stood up to Disney. He stood up to Disney? Yeah, yeah. Well, Mickey Mouse. Remove the tax-free status and it just went after them. And it's actually a freedom-loving American, which is what we need to have in the United States. We need to go back to that. This move was flying those illegal immigrants up to Martha's Vineyard. I thought that was a master's note. It was brilliant. Yeah, flying them up, putting them on buses and dropping them off at Democrat homes. All of a sudden, they didn't really want them there anymore. They weren't geared up. Nine hours. It lasted nine hours. It was like, wait on, wait on. I think it's really interesting. I'm getting the impression that the US election is just gonna be, yeah, the potential now to be the most awesome campaign ever, you know, with Trump and DeSantis. The next year or so is just gonna be spectacular. RFK Jr.? Yeah, I just don't know if I can believe him. Yeah, he was all for locking up people who disagreed with climate change, which was odd. But I mean, his book was great. His stuff on Fauci was great. And good old Joe. Sleepy Joe. If he doesn't trip up or down a few steps and hurt himself in the meantime. Joe Biden always reminds me of Dennis DeNuto when caught with, you know, in the castle where he's sitting there and he's asked, well, what's this case about? And he said, oh, you know, it's the constitution. It's the vibe of the thing. Well, that's what Biden's like. Except he can't even get that out. Can't say constitution. He'll just say, oh, oh. Some other thing. You know the thing. You know the thing. What is it with those glasses? He's always wearing those damn glasses. He goes, you know, fight a job. Aviators, yeah. He used to hide his glassy eyes. I wear those too though, Paul, to be fair. They're good glasses. If you were hopped up on all the drags that he's on to keep him awake, you'd wear glasses too. See the way he walks. Walks like he's got syphilis. You know how vaccines, you know, when you make a vaccine, you take a weakened form of the pathogen and then you inject it to form resistance against it. I've always thought Joe Biden meets that criteria if he's trying to get rid of white people better than the mRNA shots did. He's like a, you know, just, we can't let these guys in charge anymore. Well, so getting back to December. Corn pop, corn pop. Well, I used to beat up corn pop. Corn pop. Rub my legs down. Yeah. No, because I had hairy legs and the children used to rub my blonde hairs and then I knew about cockroaches. It's the thing, you know, the thing. It's terrible dementia at play. It's just, what was Trump's nickname for DeSantis? DeSantimonious. What do you mean was, Paul? It is. Sorry, okay. Now it's DeSantimonious and now he shortened it to DeSantis. He's very Catholic. He is good with the nicknames. But I want to say this about DeSantis is that he has been an amazing governor for Florida. Who wouldn't want him as your governor? His courage through the COVID pandemic, his ability to call nonsense on obvious nonsense from masks to eventually well, and quite quickly the lockdowns. But I can't, and yes, it's going to be very entertaining to see the field with the Republican primary for sure because we've got already Tim Scott's also running another Republican South Carolina's editor. We've got Rhonda DeSantis and you've got Trump, of course, who's almost voted considering the last election was stolen from him. But I mean, that's a viewpoint that probably won't be taken seriously except it will by his base. But DeSantis has a really, really good chance of being a future president. And I feel that he's blown that with this announcement on Twitter that he's now going to run up against Trump. I don't think he's going to win. He's already trailing hugely. And of course he's not actively running but Trump isn't actively running yet either because primary season hasn't started. But I can't help but feel it's a mistake. He needs to complete his governorship of Florida, gain some more years in this ever-changing climate. Because he's 44, right? He's 44. Yeah, I mean, it's not old and it's not particularly young either. It's about, you know, I mean, Barack Obama was in his 40s when he ran. It's a normal age. But to go up against Trump when Trump has helped DeSantis so much, Trump had a huge influence on DeSantis getting elected in Florida. And I think this is where Trump's vial comes from over calling him Ron DeSantis is that Trump must watch these younger guys come along as young whippersnappers that seek out his help for so many years as a, you know, as a all-American billionaire and a person that, you know, watches politics closely as Trump always has. And then they kind of turn, they get a little bit of glory and then they turn and become your competitor. There's nothing wrong with being a competitor. The American system is built on competition. I think that's good, Olivia, that they actually have a bit of a slap around of Trump and DeSantis. Because what you could end up seeing is a joint, the problem that Trump had is he didn't have an ability to build a legacy or to build a continuation. It was Trump, Trump, Trump. You know, he had Mike Pence there and he got one go at it and Pence showed what a gutless coward he was. Absolutely was. But in the past, you were able to have a president and a vice president team that showed a pathway to being re-elected as a Republican president because you would hand it over to the vice president and carry on. And they haven't had that for a while and it hasn't happened like that for a long time. So if there was a joint ticket of DeSantis and Trump and whatever for Trump and DeSantis, it doesn't really matter. Then you've got that pathway to say, well, Trump's gonna do one term and then hand it over to DeSantis who will then do two terms. And then they end up with the Republicans being there for three terms and you can make considerable changes in 12 years that you couldn't make in four or you can't make in eight years. Yeah, but Trump doesn't do politics with that. No, no, he does what he feels. And no one should. I mean, if you want to attract conviction politicians that really love their country and morally think about what's right, all this tactical strategizing long-term is that's where your energy goes instead of actually going into fixing your country and having a proper moral base to actually know what your policies are or are not. Trump, we know that Trump rules on instinct a lot. He goes by instinct and sometimes his instincts are wrong which Judas Pence, Mike Pence, appointing him to VP and the coronavirus task force and terrible appointments. Trump made some terrible appointments. I mean, Rex Tillerson for one another. I mean, globalists and stuff. But you'll find that, I mean, and here's the thing, even Mike Pence is considering a run at the moment to oppose Trump in the primary, which is just a laugh. There's a good hope in hell. That's delusional. I wouldn't do that. No. And also the disloyalty of that to a former president that's still in the field and lost election. But of course, Mike Pence was the one that certified that shonky election and didn't have enough guts to say, no. A lot of these states, the swing states, especially Georgia, Pennsylvania, Wisconsin, they needed to be taken back and redone. Arizona, yep, there you go. Speaking of Arizona, is it possible, you're talking basically about a Trump DeSantis ticket, let's say, but then there's Kari Lake. She's impressive. She would be far better and Trump will never consider DeSantis on the ticket as VP if he sniffs disloyalty. Well, there's been a political action committee set up to draft Tucker Carlson now. So someone's pouring millions of dollars into that to try and draft Tucker Carlson to stand for president, which would be interesting. The last media personality or want of a better term he did that was Ronald Reagan and he ended up being one of the greatest presidents. Yeah, but he wasn't a journalist, was he? No, he's an actor. Yeah. Donald Trump's going to cut through because of that that DeSantis won't have, even though core Republicans will love him. You know, the fact is the Rust Belt won't get him the way they love Trump and he probably, you know, doesn't have the same- It's nothing a billion dollars of advertising. Nothing a billion dollars of advertising can't fix, Marty. Well, Trump's so ahead in the polls though, that's the thing, isn't it? Yeah, but DeSantis wasn't on the ticket. So he's only just out to clear it. How long does it take to claw that into something? It'd be interesting to see. He's got a hell of a super pack. And this is the thing that makes me dislike this whole move by DeSantis is that we've watched him be so flattered by Mitch McConnell or all the rhinos that are the never Trumpers. They have flattered DeSantis into this run and a man that's susceptible to running on some kind of vanity ticket appalls me. I used to love Ron DeSantis and I think he's got some great virtues and yes, it'll up the competition and Trump can handle that. But this, make no mistake, he would be flattered into that role and who knows what's behind that because you'll probably find the deep status behind that kind of flattering too. If Mitch McConnell's involved, it is absolutely the deep state. That's if he lasts. And see this being this, I felt for it. There's been this AI that's been going around. It's a deep fake of Hillary Clinton coming out and endorsing for DeSantis. But you can bet your butt that she would want DeSantis there and not Trump again because Trump's going to want vengeance. Trump humiliated her so. So badly. So I'm surprised he hasn't died. I can sigh. But I can sigh because he embarrassed her so badly but maybe the secret service keeps him alive. Plenty of people are moving to Florida though. Yeah, well, everyone's leaving California, aren't they? It's a dog of a place. I'd like to go to Florida right now. Nice place, been there a few times. All right, are we done with? Sorry, Marty, what was that? Just come to Papua. The Florida of New Zealand. Yeah. All right, have we done with that particular topic? Do you think any last words on DeSantis? There'll be no last words on that. It's going to be an epic fight and it's going to be enjoyable and there'll be deep fakes and AI and attack ads and I just love American politics. I wish it was as brutal as that here but it's not real. They're all just so pussies in New Zealand. They have out the issues, don't they? And remember, Nikki Haley is also going to be on that. She'll be the brown... She's the dex data. She's dex data, isn't she? And Trump appointed her, didn't he? To the United Nations and he's been very disappointed in her ever since and she's been pushing through the Ukraine war and all that stuff and it's going to be a very interesting field. I like what Trump had to say and I'm really sticking my neck out because the Trump derangement syndrome sufferers are going to try and shoot it off. But in that CNN town hall, when he came out and he made that comment about Ukraine, I thought that was excellent. Which comment was that exactly? Well, we said, you know... Oh, he wants you to stop dying. Yeah, he just wanted to stop people dying. It wasn't about winners and losers. We just, I could, you know, finish it. I don't know, tomorrow, this week, maybe. That's not possible. Oh, by lunchtime. Yeah, yeah, by lunchtime. But, you know, just saying flat out that too many people are dying and we've got to stop the dying. Well, it's true. It's so true. Do you think the TDS can be broken though? That's a big issue. No, you'll never get rid of that. It's the same sort of behavior that we saw when John Key was prime minister. But it's already been broken in many ways. There are a lot of Democrats that have watched what happened to Trump and the anomalies in the election. Remember, many, many, many, many thousands of Democrats millions of Democrats do not believe that the 2020 election was legit. They know that that was taken from Trump. What they do about it, who knows? I mean, if you're dealing with half-commies, they probably won't do anything great. But, you know, they've also watched what's happened to their country under Biden and they would rather be under Trump. So I think the Trump derangement syndrome is already broken and the fact that CNN had Trump do a town hall on their channel and, you know, because they need the ratings. They need the ratings that badly. They needed to have their host destroyed by Trump on their own channel. Yeah. Took one for the team. But all that wouldn't have happened. That would never have happened a few years ago. It would have been unthinkable. So TDS will die natural death. Is that man just proofs himself? Better like Biden. Well, speaking of Biden, you know, and this is, you know, with the New Zealand coverage, just the radio silence on the ongoing revelations about corruption in the Biden family and I saw you missed the description there, Marty. It's the Biden crime family, I'd say. Did I say that? No, you just said the Biden family. It's the Biden crime family. Yeah, amazing. Just silence. Oh, it's total silence. But, you know, Trump says something or tweets something and it's all over the Well, then they don't have to wind back all their positive reporting of Biden over this time. Wouldn't they? They'd have to admit that they... Well, I mean, they've lied about absolutely everything and the Durham report is showing this. And... We'll get on with that. Part of the lie. They were peddling the lie. They did it. They are the committers. You know, it's just lies to cover evil. That's what it is, but... Let's move on to speaking of evil. Let's move on to WHO. World Health Organization. And as you've framed it here, Cam, they've enjoyed their newfound totalitarian powers that they got under COVID and are pushing to have even more control. Now, our listeners are across quite a bit of this. And you're talking about what the ability of Tedros or whoever is in that position to single-handedly declare a world pandemic because he's feeling grumpy one morning. Well, it's not just that. They're wanting to get rules, I guess, or laws passed where the WHO supersedes national governments in making decisions in... For example, the WHO supersedes what the president of the United States says. Or worse than that, supersedes not only what the president of the United States says, but each of each state's governors saying and telling them, this is how you're gonna run this pandemic and we're gonna control all of that, including the messaging, media control, censorship. And we're starting to see now the evidence coming out of the pernicious controls that were exerted under COVID for controlling the messaging. And there's a huge uproar in Australia today about how the government in Australia had Twitter censor or have suppressed in Australia thousands and thousands of tweets because it didn't agree with me. Over 4,000. Yeah. Not just tweets, it was mostly Facebook, but how basically they have that portal. Alice, Alex Antic, that man's antics are just brilliant. God, what a man of courage. And the way that he did that inquiry in Congress to the, what are they called? The version of the internal department, the Home Affairs, Department of Home Affairs. They literally were acting as Alex Antic pointed out. He said, so the Department of Home Affairs is the whistleblower for big tech censorship in Australia. And they were so flummoxed because he summed it up, but we would have the same thing going on here. Absolutely. Yeah. How Chantel Baker lost her Facebook page. Yeah, it's how I was. It's how we were de-platformed. And the BFD was on all sorts of hit lists and inside the Ministry of Health. We had to do official information at request to confirm all of that. But yeah, and now we've got the disinformation project that's continuing on this attempt to silence people that are simply speaking their mind. The other thing about that though, Cam, is that you mentioned the disinformation project because that is our version of this. But what came out from Alex Antic questioning those people was how this was originally part of the deal with the Christchurch call, Jacinda's Christchurch call, her little pet project with Macron, Emmanuel Macron of France, and her to censor violent extremism online. But this is where they've taken that. They got to censor the violent extremism, but they expanded that into misinformation and disinformation on Facebook and Twitter and all the other social media sites. That is unbelievable because that's, and no wonder the disinformation project are always looking at voices for freedom and anybody in our freedom community looking for something that they can call domestic terrorism. Yeah, absolutely. And it was all being originally run out of the Department of the Prime Minister and Cabinet. And so they say, oh, no, we're not publicly funded. Well, how are you funded then? You know, you're inside the Auckland University. That's a public organization. Any funding you get there is subject to the Official Information Act. So cough it up. They're spreading disinformation now saying that they're not publicly funded when they clearly are. What about the RFP? Is that a Trojan horse to establishing a sort of disinformation organization or clearinghouse that is out for public tender at the moment? The Free Speech Union are going to have a picture of it as well, but it seems to be pretty well geared to giving a job to the people we're talking about. Well, it's a, you know, hesitate the word to use the word conspiracy. But if you read, you know, there's a website that I get links sent to me every day from called Reclaim the Net, which is a freedom organization that's looking at all of this. So there's a massive push on globally for the creation of disinformation projects. There's a massive push on globally for the creation of state controlled digital currencies. There's a massive push on around the world for the WHO to have more of a say in individual country's health outcomes and stuff. Someone's pulling the strings. We don't know who Mr. Global is. It's the long step thing again. No, no, he's just the, he's just the man that I'm now you to see. Yeah. Yeah. But what was interesting also about Aleksandic confronting those people and in the Australian Congress is that this was Skomo's government that did this. That had, you know, this was Scott Morrison and Peter Dutton, who was the minister of the Home Affairs Department. And they did it after Scott Morrison asked them to lean into, in quotes, lean into misinformation online. And they used the Christchurch call, which has only meant to target violent extremism to do it. Well, they'll move that now to climate change. They'll say, we need to move the dial. It's like the UK has got the Nudge Unit, right? We had the same thing in the Prime Minister's Department here. They just didn't call it that, you know? But we've got these Nudge Units that are trying to move the dial on these discussions about anything and topic. But climate change is the one that's the cause of the left, right? They just love that because it gives them the authority to control citizens in many, many different ways all under the pretext of stopping the rain. It's the ultimate one. Yeah. So, you know, it's a worry, but... David Seymour said, I'll just say, he said no compromise on sovereignty, none at all. He was pretty clear about that. They all say that. They all say that. And they all, Winston Peters will say that, too. And has said that, although he's been excellent on this, you put out that press release cam today, which was a collection of his tweets, was it not? Which was very good. But I just want to make one other mention while we're talking about the who. Are we still talking about the who? We're still talking about the who. I just want to say is a lovely thing that really tickled me was that Miss Love Kolo Kusic, Kolo Kusic, who is the European Parliament MP from Croatia. Oh, I'm a fan of that guy. He's just wonderful. He, you know, he's on this whole thing about, he's very angry that nations, including Croatia, because he believes in fighting for Croatia, would surrender their authority to unelected bureaucrats. There's no accountability with the who. You know, they're unelected. They're appointed. Only shills can have positions of power and everybody has, all sovereign nations will have to kowtow to whatever they declare a pandemic. And he used the term, well, he said, it was safer to sign contracts with Colombian drug cartels than with the who. And he called them a terrorist organization. Well, it's a terrorist organization and Gorge and totally backed by China. China are their biggest backer. Yeah. But he gorgeously said in his broken Croatian English, he said, it's all foolish and lies, foolish instead of false. Yeah. The I used to not worry about organizations like the United Nations and the who and UNICEF and all of these groups, because they're just a bunch of bureaucrats, but someone schooled them up. And now they're actually very dangerous before they'd have endless meetings, conferences, and we'd all just laugh and go, you know, whatever, have your conference over there, produce your folders full of minutes and have your meetings, have more meetings. Go on. Your Manila Brown folders, they can. Yeah, yeah. So you didn't used to worry about them, but now someone's educated them and they're actually doing evil things. Yeah, they're quite competent at it. You know, so it's brought to attention. You know, I used to ignore them now and thinking, you know, drain the swamp has some merits. You know, so let's just not drain the swamp. Let's just completely fill it in as well. Lower it up. Concrete it. Concrete it's comic. Is that about the UN? He says, oh, you know, I've seen those organizations and they're so inefficient and, you know, I wouldn't worry about them actually achieving anything. They've got smarter now. That's a good point, Marty, because I've encountered that in the interviews I've done here. I've heard that from him, but also Jonathan Ailing from the Free Speech Union. Well, if you think politicians can organize anything, I'd be wrong there. They can't. And I'm thinking, well, can't they? Just like Klaus Schwab, the World Health Organization is what they allow you to see. I don't think someone else wants some allegation of a pandemic to allow all national sovereign to be subverted to be suspended. You don't think the people who print the money and own the media want that too? Yeah. Yeah. Chantel Baker did a really, really, really good interview of a Dutch guy, Terri Baudet. I think she calls him, I'd say Baudet, but Mr. Baudet, let's call him. But, you know, he's an absolute polymath and runs the party forum for democracy international. But, you know, he's got views that are out there. But I have to say, most of them I agree with, most of them. He's, and he was saying that you've got to remember that this is a war against the globalists. And globalism has one task, and only one task. And that is to smash the individual sovereignty of nations. That's it, one goal. And we're seeing that all around us. I mean, everything seems to fit into that hideous globalist agenda. And the first person, the serious person, to step onto the world stage and take on the globalists and say, no, you don't get to do that was Trump in 2016. So they smashed him? Yeah, that's why they had him as well. I see that's what I keep saying to people when they say to me, oh, we need to vote for national to get rid of labor. I said, why? National's the other side of the same coin that labor's on. Totally. We were telling you that for years, Cam. The other side of the same ass. We were telling you that for years. And it was only because of the shock of the pandemic and the draconian way that it was the rules and regulations were imposed on us. And the opposition stood there and said, oh, actually, chaired them on. Opposition, really? Yeah. Find another word. And so I came to the conclusion very rapidly that just lurching from red to blue and blue to red back again doesn't change anything. And people say, oh, well, what if Bill English had been the prime minister when the pandemic hit? Well, what if? Are you seriously telling me that Bill English, the ultimate statist, the guy that just did everything Treasury told him to do, wouldn't have done everything that Ashley Bloomfield had told him to do and do exactly the same things, but just be more efficient at taking away our freedoms and our rights as they stomped all over us. He would have loved that. He's not a freedom lover. He ran his own caucus by fear. So he would have just enjoyed that and just got off on it. We would have had a more efficient type of fascism. Yeah, we would have had compulsory track and trace, like Ty Wanda. Well, he probably would have endorsed David Seymour's idea of sending round buses with goons to kick in the door to forcibly vaccinate you. Because that would have been, that seems reasonable. Bill English would have exactly done that. We wouldn't have had any different. Efficient, yeah. He was right into the numbers driven stuff, wasn't he? Yeah, absolutely. He would have worked on the numbers of who we could have playing the orchestra on the train station for the internment camps for those who refused to be vaccinated. He would have done that. I know what that guy's like. But this is the problem. And let us not also forget that I think the most recent co-chair of one of those WHO get together, this was our very own Ashley Bloomfield. So we're right in the middle of it. Absolutely, globally, if you ask in corporate, in the corporate world, right, where they've got branch offices in New Zealand and when there's new products come out, they usually send stuff here to test it, right? It's the same in politics. It's the same with these bureaucracies. Oh, let's see if we can get it to fly in New Zealand. Goes great in New Zealand. Goes great in New Zealand. Goes great in New Zealand. Let's see if we can get it to fly. Let's see if we can have total lockdown, China style, but with a smiley face and see if the citizens will willingly comply with it. Oh, look, they did. Oh, excellent. Right now, let's see if we can get in the vault. We've done our market research. Let's go. That's right. And they've proved it. And we are a hot house or a breeding ground for stupid ideas. So where does this, this brings me to a question that wasn't necessarily on our talking points, but I can't help but bring it up now. And that's what the hell are we going to do with all this trade with China because our farmers are in, beholden to this. And no politician would dare go up against our partnership with China, which is so meaningful to us, but so unmeaningful to them. We're just a blip. But for us, it's a huge money earner. No politician is going to want to bring that up because that would be suicide for their campaign. But... Cut their donations down from the CCP. Yes, for sure. Long term, knowing that China backs the WHO, the UN World Economic Forum and... The Labour Party, the National Party. Yeah, I mean, where does this... And not to mention what happened with Wuhan and all that. And then the fact that we got, basically, after that pandemic was released, we got Chinese characteristics right through our society, from masks to flipping lockdowns, which I still can't believe ever happened, but they did. When are somebody going to talk seriously about New Zealand's hopeless reliance on China as a trading partner? Would Winston do that? Yeah, yes, but in a nuanced way. He's got to tread a fine path. If you've been a foreign minister, you've had to interact with these types of people. But I've had reasonable discussions with Winston over whiskey and cigars. In a smoke-filled room, the way politics used to be done and should be done again. And he's heading towards the anti-globalist stance. I keep reminding myself. Red-billed. I said to him, Winston, what's the name of your party? Yeah, that's a good point. What's the name of the National Party? Who? The National Party. They should change their name. Oh, they should. That question of China came for me when... It's the only time I've ever seen Jacinda doing run was when someone asked her a question about Hong Kong and she said, excuse me, I've got to go and actually ran away from the podium. Well, yeah. Arms flailing. And I felt an icy chill go through me. Arms flailing. But nobody wants to take on China. I mean, you know, I mean, we all know I dislike Jacinda intensely, but, you know, in fairness, no politician wants to take on that question. It used to be, though, Livy, like I can remember when I was a teenager and, you know, Dad was the Auckland divisional chairman of the National Party and then he was the president of the National Party. And I can remember him getting phone calls from the Chinese ambassador. For him as the president or senior National Party person to go and tell off the national ministers who had said something in favour of Taiwan or, and it used to be that National MPs would go to the Taiwanese National Day celebrations and where KMT pins, you know, the Kuomintang pins on their jackets and that they would do these things and support Taiwan. And under John Key, he actually forbade all of his MPs to actually go to anything to do with Taiwan. And they sucked up to the CCP like you wouldn't believe. And the one China policy. And the one China policy. So I put it down to this creeping, you know, slide in standards that the National Party had where they prostituted themselves to the Chinese and Chinese interests in order to pursue a free trade deal which has actually crippled our country and we don't know it. And I blame John Key for that, you know. Some of those problems are openly supporting Taiwan. Simon O'Connor. Simon O'Connor. Yeah. Supporting Taiwan is one thing. But are we, I mean, after what happened in the Ukraine and after watching NATO, well, the forces behind NATO, the deep state behind which rules NATO and especially the UN Security Committee, they gave the finger to Russia every time Russia asked for serious consideration around their security interests which meant no NATO expansion. They didn't want missiles trained on them from the Ukraine which seems like a fair request. They got goaded into this war and then they saw the weakness of the West and then took their moment. But it makes me wonder now exactly what's going on with China if it's similar because America and the UK, and I know Boris Johnson had this as well, they were very, very, very vocal in protecting and wanting to protect Taiwan from China. But America has to stay close to neutral because they have already signed on to supporting China's one China policy, which means you cannot be backing Taiwan. But people would like to remember Nancy Pelosi was gonna go flying over to Taiwan, not recently, but in the last year, you know, and America, the other forces in the government did not like that approach because it was provocative. It's provoking China. And now there's a lot of talk about China taking Taiwan. Are we watching something similar to what we just watched? No, and I'll tell you why. There's a big hunk of water between China and Taiwan. Well, it's not that big. It's not an ocean. It's a long way to be getting shot at while you go land and cry. Now, if China could take Taiwan, they would have, right? They can't. No, they would have because they know that the West would mount a defense against it. But even if you just look at it, right? For a start, the Chinese are smarter than the Russians. But it's a whole lot easier to roll tank divisions across a land border into an adjoining country and roll them up, right? Which is flat. Yeah, you can also have air superiority. You can have all of these sorts of things, right? You have the ability, it's much easier to project power. You can put an artillery piece on the border and you can suppress anything within a 40 kilometer radius, right? You can't put artillery pieces on the border of China and fire it at Taiwan. They just can't go there. You can only use so many missiles, they can be shot down. You have to be able to project power and the Chinese have only recently got aircraft carriers, ironically, clapped out Russian aircraft carriers, which, you know, one of them was the Kiev that was built in the Ukraine and has been renamed. But in order to operate carriers, you need to create a carrier group and then you need to create submarine forces that are around, you need to create missile defenses in that carrier group. And then you have to have coordinated, it takes decades, decades and decades and decades of combat, of training to get the skills to be able to project power, which aircraft carriers do. So China's got one aircraft carrier, there's another one on its way, so they've got two. Well, the Americans- I don't think we know what they have, Cam. I really don't. You can't hide an aircraft carrier. I think we get arrogance, think we know what people have, but I've got to work with it. Well, do you even need the territory? Do you even need the territory? It's the influence that makes the difference. No, but what I'm saying is- You don't need to conquer New Zealand, they've already conquered it. No, but if you want to get Taiwan, you have to cross that water and you have to have a military and a navy that can do that and they just don't have that. You can't just rock up and land. And look, the easiest way to understand it is when the coup happened in 1987 in Fiji, David Longie called in the head of defence in New Zealand and said, right, we're going to go in there and we're going to invade Fiji and we're going to put the government back into power and they laughed at them. They laughed at David Longie. And they said, look, we've got three Hercules. Only one of them works at any one time. Yeah, at any one works at one time. So if we're going to send, say, the SAS up, how many do you want to send up? Because we can take 45 soldiers and all of their gear to support them on the ground. But it'll take three and a half hours to fly up to Suva. They land and then they're going to turn around and fly back again to get the next load. And that means that that those troops that you've just landed there, the 45 troops of the 88 troops in their support, now have to fight off the Fijian army. They're going to get wiped out. Exactly. And they've got to do that for a minimum of eight hours before we can get back to them with the next lot. That's if the thing doesn't break down. And so long as you said, oh, when we send a transport ship up there, yeah, OK, how do we get them from there on to the shore? And how do we do that without getting shot at? It's really difficult to go and invade an island nation, right? It's it's a whole order of magnitude more difficult than rolling tanks across a drawn border on the on the. So could Taiwan defend itself or require the West? It would require the West, but they have huge bases. They've built them in mountains. They can actually land airplanes on runways that are underground. You know, it's amazing what they've bought. They could hold off long enough that supplies could come in from the West. I tell you, those hypersonic missiles already carry a group's underwater, honestly. No, but but the Ukrainians have been defeating hypersonic missiles. Yeah, really? Yeah, really? Yeah, I don't buy that. Twelve thousand kilometers an hour. No, it's impossible. But but 12,000 kilometers, a flaw in hypersonic missiles. Oh, OK. What is it? The floor is in order to hit the target, they have to slow down. And so, you know, the Israeli iron dome system could defeat them. The Patriot missile system is able to defeat them now, because the thing is, once you the first time you use them, everyone goes, oh, my God, how are we going to beat that? But as soon as they start using these things, there's telemetry. There's electronic signatures. There's information that can be you rain enough of them down and some are going to get through. Yeah, but, you know, Russia hasn't really got a great economy. Just have a look at the May Day parade. The May Day parade was a joke. They rolled out one T-43 tank, T-34 tank from World War Two. They've got huge resources. Exactly. But I guess getting back to the idea that I was, you know, pondering was are we watching the West go'd China into a war with Taiwan? Like we just watched them go'd Putin into attacking the Ukraine? Possibly. I don't think they're that smart. No, they were way smarter than that, surely. Chinese are smarter than they were. They won't be go'd. They've got to the Chinese have got a 5000 year plan. They look up the plan, they go, that's not for another 2000 years. No, that's not for another 500 years. No, we won't worry about that. All right, we better we better move because time's ticking and we've got other topics to get through. And this is a really interesting one, the Durham Report. Olivia, you and I have talked about this already. And the name I think I mentioned him, Alexander Downer came up. So what's going on here now? What's the latest on this? Well, the Durham Report shows that Alexander, they used Alexander Downer and George Papadopoulos. Remember, George Papadopoulos was the guy that met Alexander Downer and another Australian diplomat in a pub in London, which Alexander Downer. Well, it turns out the High Commissioner, wasn't he? He was the High Commissioner of Australia and for for the UK. But the FBI used and Clinton's, you know, nefarious seditious machine used that meeting between Papadopoulos and Alexander Downer and the other diplomat to kick off the investigation into the Trump campaign. Yeah, and crossfire hurricane. Yeah, but here's the problem. But it turns out that Alexander Downer did not say to the FBI what the leaked information to the media said that he said about poor old George Papadopoulos. And on top of that, it was no that already opened the investigation before Downer had actually met George Papadopoulos. So it was a total fabrication by the FBI to cover the their, you know, soft coup that they were trying to run at the time to prevent the Trump campaign winning to assist Hillary Clinton. They were actually actively involving themselves in politics. And they used that as cover and made poor Alexander Downer. I look like a snitch and now look like a fool. And they made him look like a snitch. But I mean, I got to say, I had moments of hilarity reading through some of the articles on this scam. You'll appreciate it only because in the Epoch Times, it says specifically Peter Struck, you know, he's the horrible little FBI guy that kicked this whole little troll. Oh, he looks like Satan. That's what he looks like. I managed to pull the managed to pull Lisa Page, though. Yeah, how do you do that? Anyway, she's obviously got terrible taste in men. But it said specifically Struck wrote in his book and told Horowitz. That's Michael Horowitz, the Inspector General that wrote the original report before Durham took it over. And TV interviews that Downer was prompted to come forward when he heard Trump say during a campaign speech, Russia, if you're listening, I hope you're able to find the 30,000 emails that are missing. However, Downer never said this and couldn't have said it because he provided his information before Trump made his speech. But this this shows you that the actual FBI and Hillary campaign and Peter Struck and corrupt, awful, seditious people. Is this reason they were so guilty in their conscience and when Trump won one of his campaigns was going, Russia, if you listen to the penalty for treason, like, you know, that is penalty. But you can. But in the in Article Three of the American Constitution, treason only applies if you're at war with that nation. So it's sedition. OK. I would say it's definitely espionage and therefore seditious, I think. But I mean, anyway, that just look, every time Trump must have opened his mouth, they would have been, you know, we want to believe that Alexander Downer was triggered by Trump saying, no, I mean, that's what I said. That's what the FBI said. That's what they're trying to put forth. But I remember when Trump said that, it was obviously a joke. Well, what we do know now is that it was half true. It was half true. Yeah, but it was said in a in a joking way. Yeah, I mean, Trump fashion. Yeah. Yeah. What we know absolutely, though, is the person who comes up with investigation code names is clearly a Rolling Stones fan. Yeah, Crossfire Hurricane. Yeah. I thought it was Stevie Ray Ball. Is that Bob Dylan? Rolling Stone. No, it's just Rolling Stones song, isn't it? No, it could be. It's a commuter Mozart. The naming of these things, though, it's quite an interesting that the names that are assigned. But their conscience would have been because they were colluding with Russia, the Democrats and the Hillary Clinton's people because they were colluding with people like Dan Shanko to try and get the P tapes and everything else. Their conscience was just so dark that every time Trump said something in his glorious innocence of, you know, like like that, Russia, if you find the 30,000 emails that are missing, let us know. And we hope you do. They they were diving for cover all the time and creating their story bigger and bigger to cover their terrible evil deeds. Remember that this was all started to protect Hillary Clinton from her illegal activities. Why she got so much power in this one woman? Because they kill people. I would say because they kill people. The Arkansas thing again. Yeah. Yeah, the body count, the Clinton body count. Crossfire Hurricane was the documentary film in 2012 about the Rolling Stones that comes from the first line of the 1968 hit Jumping Jack Flay. Did you just did you just crossfire hurricane? You're right. Absolutely. Absolutely. And I thought we were talking about other things. Can like I moved on the emails that were dismissed. Well, I think it's amusing. Every time I hear Jumping Jack Flash, I think, oh, that FBI guy must have been a fan of the Rolling Stones. It's the only place that crossfire hurricane exists anywhere together other than the FBI. So it must have been a Rolling Stones fan. Yeah, OK. So he's got very good taste. Got to be careful. I don't think Ken wants to talk about the Durham report anymore. Paul, what are you going to be careful with Rolling Stones fans from now on? I think maybe we'll move on from that because time is ticking. Labour's nanny state instincts come to the fore yet again. What's happened? Well, they've come out with a campaign to to lecture Kiwi families on how we should be able to what they've described it as is finding money in weird places, which is a bit strange when Megan Woods is the person that's suggesting that. And I'm just wondering, you know, maybe there was some something stuck down the back of the sofa or something like that. But they've come up with these cockamamie ideas that we have to have shorter showers and I really shudder to to pass this on to the listeners. This horrible visage of Megan Woods trying to have a shower inside five minutes. I mean, it's almost impossible. You need help, wouldn't you need some assistance? Yeah, there's all these things they've come out here. You know, remember that Helen Clark pretty much lost the 2008 election because of her willingness to restrict shower heads there. So we'd all have dribbly showers and, you know, light bulbs and under a certain wattage and things like this. Just smacks of Helen Clark now having a hotline into Chris Hipkins and Megan Woods fervent little imaginations on how they can further control New Zealanders. Do you think they brainstormed those ideas? No, like if brains were dynamite, these guys wouldn't have enough to blow their nose. Because you know that they're not going to compromise on their showers and their warmth. Well, I'd hope not imagine the smell. OK, another thing to think about at breakfast time, I don't think. Well, you're gobbling down your wheaties and things. We like hygienic people, don't we? Yes. Basic, Western... Keep it clean, please. ...basic requirement, yep. Yeah. OK, well, maybe stopping them showering could could save the nation. All right, have we got anything more to say about that? Well... Well, it costs 2.8 billion dollars. And then, Marty, it's your turn. Marty, you've been sitting there and... Jacindra Dern's resurfaced after a lengthy absence from the media and talking about her speech to the WHO. She said, crisis has always compelled us to act, learn and to work together. The question has never been, will we do something? The question is, will we do enough? Will we do enough? It's an interesting take on that whole medical... Sounds like a great choice. ...the first do no harm. The first thing you should always consider is doing nothing. It's a great point. Yeah. But, yeah, that thing is pernicious beyond belief. And again, it's like the absence of the extent of the Biden family criminal activity. Crime family, crime family. Yep. And it's absolute absence from New Zealand media. I've brought up as well the misinformation of missing all that barometric data from its weather reports, this glib kind of lying that just goes absolutely unchallenged. Going back to only 1978, just was leaving school then. So that's, yeah, hardly a deep drill down into the history, is it? Going back to 1978... Well, I think you're talking about the knee-wit data, weren't you? Talking about barometric pressure? Yeah. Well, they've been going throughout the years. Well, they've been going throughout the years. You know, it was just the last shower, really. Yeah. Well, I mean, yeah. They all think we came down in the last shower. Well, we have. Shouldn't be having a shower. Because we've taken. Yeah. It will be like the British after World War II where you had a damp flannel to wash under your armpits. Speaking of World War II, on the media matters this week, I'm saying I've been reading a bit of Hannah Arendt who coined the phrase, the banality of evil. Because that's what I think of when I see Chris Hipkins. It's what I think of when I see Ashley Bloomfield. Yeah. All these meek, mild-mannered people who wouldn't hear to fly. Soy boys. Who are doing this terrible stuff. Yeah. Soy boys do terrible things. Yeah. That's why it was, Marty, what you put your finger on there is, and I'm glad you brought that up with Hannah Arendt, with the banality of evil. Because she said that in the context of watching Eichmann, the Eichmann trial, which was held in Israel. Just how ordinary these people are, with the little ratty eyes. Yeah. Yeah. But that's exactly the evil of people, nobodies who will say, don't blame me. I'm just following orders. Yeah. The Martin Bormins of this world. Yeah. Yeah. That's how they do it. All looking good in there. They all looked great in their Hugo Boss suits as they stomped all over Europe. Well, I mean, at least they did that. Yeah. Yeah. Okay. Well, and the fact that, I think you made the point of, and no one's talking about it, and we haven't, you've just made that point. But I think we're so used to no one talking about it that we don't even think of that anymore. Yeah. Well, I mean, the fact that you've got Ardern out there cheering it along, you know, it's really worth more New Zealanders looking back at what she did with that in mind and understanding what they're trying to do is suspend the sovereignty of nation states. Well, first of all, you have to get people to suspend disbelief. Too much? And then when you suspend disbelief, you know, you think, oh, no, they'd never do that. Well, first of all, you've got to train the population into thinking that, no, they never do that. No. That has happened. That has happened. Gary, tell me about it. Yeah. You're panicking. Yeah. And once you've got people to suspend their own rational thought of, you know, their eyes of, no, I'm not seeing this happen. It can't be happening. Once you've done that, then you can get people to do anything. This is not rocket science, right? We've seen this before. We saw how it was done in Nazi Germany, how you got a whole population to have a mass delusion to think that if they did these things, that it'll all be okay. And even the Jewish community, they were stepped one little bit at a time to mass extermination and every little step that they took, it was, oh, it can't be that bad. It's okay. We'll just wear the gold stars. That'll be fine. It's okay. They can't take all of our business. You know, they need us to run them. It's okay. You know, they can't. It's only a swimming pool that we can't go to anymore. And these little steps, incrementally, incrementally advanced them. The Holocaust did not happen immediately. Right. Right. It happened over years. All we all we talk about is the end result. But if you look at all of and you can only understand this, I think, if you've been to Yad Vashem in Jerusalem and the way that museum is set up, is it steps you through the same little steps that the German people put the Jewish community through and the gypsies and everybody else that didn't suit their thing. And there's a one way past. There's a one way path to sorry, yeah, there's a one way path through this museum, which ends up basically at at the gas chambers and you can't go back through that. You can only go forward. And this is it's it's the analogy of how do you cook a frog, right? How do you boil it slowly? And even even the I remember reading a lot about the Jordan rate, you know, the Jews themselves that oversaw the ghettos where the children and the families went, especially in Hungary, but but everywhere. And people were being told that they were being taken to a nice place. Well, I can't. But and they were honestly Jews there that gave their gold to get a room with a view. Yes, they had to buy a ticket. We're going to take you to this new place, but you have to buy a ticket to fund your own demise. Yeah. And of course, you'll have a room with a view. And of course, your children will be taken care of absolutely. Absolutely. And the pools will be heated and, you know, it'll be great. Yeah, so tragic. Well, here's the question. Are we seeing the same pan? Well, I think we did. We have seen it. You know, we were called conspiracy theorists during the pandemic. And we say, well, hang on, this has happened before. This is this is the same tactic. The the the shaming, the, you know, the othering, the the separation of people into different secrets. That's exactly what it is. Yeah, that's exactly what it is. We have seen it before and it's happened and it happened again. And then eventually, because of people like us saying, you know, you can't do that to us. You can bring your police and you can stomp all over our tents and you can smash us all up. But we're not going to accept that. We're not going to lie down. We are going to say that was the end of our doing. When she saw that happen and then we're all still standing there saying, you know, stuff you, that was the end of her. She realized that this was only going to grow. Well, yeah. And that could do one more thing on that was just just to I do have the odd positive thought now and then in its centers around this is why resistance is so flipping important in our time. You must have resistance. And the way forward with all this dictatorial nonsense that they want to come from places like the who and whatever wars they draw us into, we must be committed to our parallel communities, parallel communities and voices for freedom are so good at this, your own gardens, your own ability to trade. We must keep our own cash alive, our bullion and be able to trade our way to just hold our own as whatever breaks around us can smash around us, but we'll be OK without having to go to, you know, gulags and things like that. But you know that whatever's been kicked off, the globalists are not going to give up until each nation state has its sovereignty smashed, and that means the individuals within that state or nation. So that's why parallel communities are just so goddamn important. Well said. We're going to have to spin through. We've probably gone over time, but hey, it's been interesting. Let's spin through the last couple of topics really quickly. Probably don't need to spend too much time on them. What's this about the National Party using AI in their election campaign? What's the issue with that? Well, the news have ran this massive news story yesterday or the other day about how the National Party was now using AI generated, you know, photos in in their advertising. And this was an outrage, outrage, terrible. You know, this is the same organisation that, you know, went and rocked up rights holders for songs and things like that to get the National Party in trouble over that. So now they're in trouble for using their own images that they've dreamed up out of their own minds. They even lined up some woke Womble in their own studio to complain that that this use of AI to create Maori and Pacifica images was somehow racist. Oh, look, this is a nothing story. It's like what Marty said, this is a weapon of mass distraction. Distraction. It's so painful. So let's just talk about that. But I think we have to talk about it to just mock them mercilessly. You know, these people are adults, they're absolute idiots. And they take us all for being stupid and we just need to laugh at them. We need to do what they do in The Simpsons, you know, with that character, he points to people and he goes, haha. Oh, the Adams family. Yeah, that's what we need to do. And it's just ridiculous. And it shows the lengths that our own media are going to in order to hurt the major party that will be involved in trying to unseat this government. Now, they've got a vested interest in keeping the left in power because that's where they've had millions and millions of dollars of state funding to support them. They're never going to bite the hand that feeds them. So they'll bite anybody else's hand. And that's basically what it is. OK, what about their slogan? Is this their new slogan, Get New Zealand Back on Track? I have to say that seemed very underwhelming to me. What about Let's Save New Zealand? But, you know, Get New Zealand Back on Track, you know, with you. I mean, how much it's weak. It's weak. I mean, I worked on the national I helped work on the National Party Campaign in 2008 in the slogan. And we gave the guy I was working with and we gave them all these really good punchy headlines. And the one they went with was Choose a Brighter Future. And some way some way out there came out and sit on Twitter. What are you, Choose a Brighter Poster? Get New Zealand Back on Track. I mean, it's not punchy. It's not catchy. But that's what they like. It's not like Make America Great Again. But, you know, bless. It's the National Party. At least they're trying. They wouldn't want to use. What do you think, Marty? It's going to win them anything? In a nutshell, I'm saying it's a big circle jerk. And they just sit in a room and agree with themselves. Stuff that they care about and middle voters don't. Pussies. You know, a lot of a lot of guys who climb the corporate ladder get the girly action they want the girly action. Yeah. So what they do when they when they get the boss's job is they install a whole retinue of PR checks and HR checks and marketing girls. And they finally get the worshipful adulation that they've been faving jerking off thinking about since they were teenagers. And and what happens is you get a you get a whole lot of bad ideas. Yeah. Well, that's not a great pick up line. Is it darling get New Zealand back on track? New Zealand back on track. You know, he would have said it. How big on track? Yeah, it's going to sound even worse. So true. Oh, dear. And I'm trying to imagine that in Christopher Luxon's voice. Oh, yeah. And is simpering weak, effeminate. All right. And I think one more. And this is real quick because on your list, Cam, Jenny Anderson getting mauled by Hosking. Or was she just what defaulting to the talking points all the time? She got absolutely slaughtered by Hosking. He just kept insisting she answered the question. And she just kept on saying the same talking point over and over. And eventually he just said, you've said that seven times. Can you come up with something new? And then so she rabbit it off the press release that she'd put out. And he called her on it and said, well, that's just off the press release. It's word for word. Haven't you got any ideas? So he just slayed her. You know, and I saw some wag on Twitter say that he's been convinced for some time that Aisha Verrill will end up quite easily as the worst performer in the Labour cabinet. But that Jenny Anderson, she's a dark horse making a strong push. And I tend to agree with that person on Twitter. I think she's absolutely hopeless and out of her depth. And his sole claim to fame is that she once worked as a secretary or something in the police. Oh, is that why she's police minister? Is it apparently some sort of claim to fame? Yeah, a claim to fame. Some member of some committee of, I don't know, she's she's dumb as a bag of hammers and she has no grasp on the whole concept of, you know, since they're gaslighting the whole country, saying that crime is actually not as bad. It's just because we've got a new app that means we can report crime more. So it looks like there's more crime. But that's what this government does. They just gaslight us, you know, tell us what I deal with ram rates. I mean, those poor people in Titerangi, they had to close their post shop. Oh, no, because they've had what, seven burglaries in five years. That's the entirety of Jacinda Ardern's rain here. I mean, really, these people's lives are far better off and getting back to what Marty said about the who with Jacinda's speech, where she said, you know, in the aftermath of the crisis, we have not just done something we have done enough. And I think about those people having to close their business. Yeah, they've done enough, all right. Yeah, they have really ruined, ruined this country and ordinary people who need a livelihood after 20 years of going out of business, because what, they get ran rated. I think what we need to have, I reckon we should do this, Paul, is we should have a gaslighter of the week award. That's a great idea, right? And it'll be a labor person who's gaslighting us, you know, safe and effective, you know, stay home, all of this bullshit that we were gaslit with about how we were going to we were going to flatten the curve. Oh, don't say that one. All of that bollocks, it was all just gaslighting us. And that's what these guys do, they just gaslight us. So, you know, the robbery that you saw in Pua Nui Road in Papatoi. No, you didn't see that. There was just some youth adjacent people that were a bit deprived and wanted a bottle of fizzy drink. It wasn't a robbery at all. Gaslighter of the week. That's what we can call it. Well, I think we should get New Zealand back on track. I'm excited for New Zealand. And I think that we need to get it back on track. I really think we need to go back on the track. You could really mash that one up, too, couldn't you? Well, you know, we haven't even built the track yet. If it's a Labour government, you know, where's the track to the airport? We've got to build the track. We've got to build the track. We've got to build the track. We've got to build the track. We've got to build the track first before we can get it back on it. Back on the cycleway. But Cam, we're going to get more tracks than roads repaired, remember? Oh, yes, that's right. Yeah, we can fix all the potholes by abandoning the roads and trains. Yeah. Oh, and coastal shipping. Coastal shipping. We're going to use coastal shipping to get goods to Taupo. Thinking about that one. Well, that's what the fall said, you know? You know, our coastal shipping was a great Taupo canal. It's called the Waikato River, but these pesky little things that provide power in the way called dams. Well, if they stop showering, we won't need them. Oh, true. No, no, we need it for the power for all the gay electric cars and the, you know, subsidies to huge Australian multinationals that want to turn their recycling steel pot into an electric furnace. Just nuts. It's just not. You can just imagine, right, we've installed it now and we're about to turn it on. The whole. Yeah. They stop a few ram raids. They haven't built any more generation. They're encouraging all the wealthy people to go and buy these electric cars and plug them in in the suburbs where they haven't upgraded the electrical infrastructure. And now we're going to turn one of the biggest energy consumers in the country, even bigger, by turning on this electric furnace. I mean, it just feeds back into this whole smashing of sovereign nations that globalism is all about. Yeah, they must take out our infrastructure. That has to go. Well, they give us shitty infrastructure like wind turbines and solar and say, well, no, it's it doesn't work. When there's an emergency, what do people turn to? Do you think all the firetrucks that went out can set the theme there? They're all diesel powered. The carbon they want to reduce is human. Yeah, it's human, exactly. If we only got things back on track. All right, let's let's finish up there. That was that was a long that was a long one. But hey, you know, there's plenty to talk about. And we'll do that gas lighter of the week next week. And someone will have to be in charge of administering that, though. That's anything. Here's the thing, Paul. And I'll be you. I'll do that. So but here's the thing, right? And we might be long and we've had it, you know, thrashed some of these things out, but it sure as hell beats what other media organisations are doing where they have 20 seconds on that, 30 seconds on that. This is about educating people and exposing people to a plethora of ideas of which they can then. Yeah, the cornucopia, all sorts of other big words that no one in the mainstream media knows how to spell much less. Say we'll bear it. We'll bear it. OK, well, there's a lot of pain. Have a great weekend, everybody. Have a great week and we'll do it all again next Friday. Huh? How about that? Yeah, thanks very much, Paul. Thanks. Have a great week.