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We got a special guest in here today Y'all he don't really need no introduction man. This is second time on the show man I ain't man. This is my guy man to be honest, which I rock with him. I rock with everything you stand for I'm gonna be real with you. I've been batting and swinging ever since he left here I don't know, you know people were coming for him and I was like man I got to get deep one back on the show man D1. Thank you for coming back man. Yes, sir I wouldn't go everywhere twice Straight up man, I just I just know that you family we trying to make sure we treat you as such You know you in Texas man, you know, you be everywhere though. I've been watching you man You don't just be in one place man Like I've seen you like I'm watching your movement like bro. Do you ever get like dang like a little tire? The tired part. No, I don't get tired because everything I'm doing is is purposeful You know and I know that there would be a day where I would no longer be able to do this So that's the time when I'm going to truly rest but for right now, man I got to make sure that while I'm in my prime that I can use all of the energy and the creativity I've got to make this world a better place man I'm just trying to help people and I got a large platform right now and a lot of eyes on me So, you know, um, it's crucial that I do what I'm doing man I just when I look at you know, the just the Litany of things that I've seen in your movement. It's crazy because you came in this game man early on You know, you weren't holding no bars, you know, I mean you was basically Standing for something, you know, there's a lot of people that rap There's a lot of people to get into this but to actually stand for something and really, you know Understand from a young age, you know, I mean that I'm really, you know about something You know, that was that was interesting to me about your story You know what I mean? Yeah, because a lot of people don't figure it out to later on Right after bump they hear like oh man like Mace, you know, I mean, I think Mace have a lot of great intentions You know what I'm seeing far as His heart, you know what I mean because he got to a point where he just walked away from a lot of things You know, I mean you see that in Al Green the the singer like these are things that that that you look at in In the music industry and I'm relating it because that's what you your artist When you think about certain ones who it was daddy Yankee right daddy Yankee just decided and he did it in a big way Hey, man, I'm turning my life over to Christ You know these are things that you don't just actually see happen all the time right right the shift is happening right now Right now the music industry is shifting people are waking up people are being like whoa. I've been hypnotized for too long. I've been Pushing people towards a path of destruction and I feel bad about that So people are waking up and fans are waking up and Sam and what if I've been consuming all this time I've been consuming murder music. I've been filling my ears up with music. That's just Preaching death and destruction to me all the time and I'm like a zombie because they package it and make it sound good People are waking up man, and I'm proud to be a part of that shift We shifting away from the toxic hip hop we shifting away from just the one narrative where it's like hey I'm just doing whatever I got to do to feed my family Now we shifting away from that and empowering artists and fans man You wanted to newer guys when they come to it Because I remember like I told you before I say newer chance the rapper was a cut You know like they spoke in this another one too. It's a common was one that They spoke with with dignity and they spoke with integrity when they when they were rhyme do they rhyme scheme, right? I think it was one more to that. I I can't get I can't think of the one play like he will smell loopy Oh, you talking about Johnny Lucas. Yeah, like he want to write. Yeah, like this a Like credible messengers, you know, I mean people who send in a message out that pretty much touches one's heart and Put it in a way to work and structure one's life, right, right? You see what I'm saying, but yes, sir But yours is kind of different yours come straight. It's a come at you style Like yo the way you rhyme it's a direct hit. It ain't it ain't like it's coming straight for like This is my target and I know what I'm trying to target and hit correct the difference. I think yeah I definitely want to I definitely want strike a nerve with people too well when they hear it It's like man. I feel convicted. I feel like this dude speaking straight to my soul. It's not subliminal Direct and it's not coming through in a hateful way. It's not coming through in a preachy way It's just that reality that reality sting Yeah, and some people when they feel that sting and make them change their ways and to make them say man I need to go ahead on and The words saying 8 and 32 John you should know the truth and the truth will set you free But it don't just set you free without Stinging I'm making you miserable first. That's it. That's it and the truth. There you go So that's why I the I just come and make sure that I'm spitting truth and that I represent truth And what I realize is that does not get welcome with open arms by people who want to continue to live a lie People who want to continue to consume lies or put lies out there. What's the opposite of a lie the truth So when I come they look at it like it's threatening You heard me and when you can't attack the message because the message is the truth What do you attack the messenger? Wow? I wanted not it's a good time to bring the segue in about Fat Joe hmm that Joe say 90 how much 95 95% of everything I said in my reps was a lie How big was that to hear fat Joe? Say that that was powerful I'm so happy to fat Joe had that moment to where he made that statement on national TV He said 95% of what he has put in his reps have been lies For fans to hear that that's such a teachable moment to where you should just hear that and Internalize that and be like okay I have to rethink my attachment to these reps now because if I'm pattern in my lifestyle After what people are saying in these reps it would have 95% of what I'm pattern in my lifestyle after is a lie Then that mean I'm headed towards a cliff to to head straight towards walking off a cliff For something that wasn't even real because hip-hop is a teaching tool and we can't act like it's not man We can't act like it's just entertainment hip-hop is too deeply ingrained in our system and our bloodstream to act Like it's just entertainment. What'd you think about? He's right you agree Because when you think about just the way that you look at the rap and just the way that Hip-hop is when it first came in it came in and it wasn't it was more there was no cursing Right. I'm being real. No. No, you didn't curse, you know the closest we got to the to the hardcore was Area being rock him. I came in the door. I said it before I never let the mic It was like that. My name is D nice checking out your suckers and it wasn't really no I'm gonna blow your head off or I'm gonna get high which it wasn't like that, right when you use talking to DMC I see yeah, yeah DMC name is tricky The closest they got to something that was controversial to me was a dumb girl Mmm, I see you checking JC cuz he got a Mercedes. You know, I mean like it was not that was all you calling the girl dumb Yep, the only thing that that's all you had back then it was not like People respected what they said in the rhyme schemes back then, bro. Yes. It was different time. Yes, sir Nowadays one step at a time people feel like well, I gotta take it further for more shock value I gotta take it further than the last rapper did for some more shock value next thing, you know We are in detail glorifying how we murder people We are in detail glorifying how we disrespect these women and how we run through them And how we run trains on them and how we sell dope to our own community. We detailing it like that That's a problem. And we call it entertainment. It was entertaining about the problem though But you got like me being a dude that came from the other side of that bump my head Mm-hmm. I listened to all that when I was coming up, too I didn't just I listened to short when he came out. Mm-hmm. He was crazy with it Luke were crazy with it Mm-hmm. Am I proud of that place? Why was that at that time? I was a lost person, bro There you go. I'm being real But I but I enjoy it and I still think and when you put it in just like you put in Al Green or something like that I think about my mom's you know, I mean I think about them because that's what they played when I was a kid You know I'm saying so when I put in like a too short. It'll take me back to high school. I'm being real mentally Oh, yeah, it'll put me back there But it won't make me want to go back to that lifestyle either so I have to be careful right you see what I'm saying Right, is it a thing D1 where do one become mature enough to digest that type of music? When you become mature enough to digest that type of music the question becomes Why would you choose to digest that type of music as opposed to other types of music? That's the real question Just because you can do something just because you can Take a whole bunch of pills and not kill yourself and you like damn my body strong enough to take all these pills You know that I shouldn't have took does that mean that you should? This room Would you but you talked about shock value earlier and When I think about in today's society, you know, there's always said negative is negativity is what sells That's what everybody because when I post something positive. I might get 200 views 100 views, but if you post something crazy negative 10 20 50,000 sometimes you can post something positive with a message depends on who is coming from and you get good views so You know how you're talking about sometimes the way how you say things like he was saying the way how you say something Although it is positive and it is the truth You have to deliver it in such a shocking way for people to grasp people attention. Is that what you're doing? That's a great question. No Okay, not at all. Okay for me putting the truth out there is something to where I do it with passion I do it with intelligence and however people receive it. That's how they receive it. You know, I've been teaching for a long time Since before I was a rapper So I know how to package something to where when you hear it is going to it's gonna it's gonna hit you as it Has to stick with you if I'm a teacher like right now I'm a college professor right at Tufts University If I'm putting all this knowledge out there But I don't know I don't know how to package it to where my students can be like ooh Professor D1 that that just that stuck with me then I'm not gonna be an effective Professor at that point. So it's just something that I know how to do but you brought up a great point Because I think y'all had my brother Sean cotton on the show I've never met Sean never spoke to Sean right so there's no bias when I say this but I can tell Sean has a good heart I can tell he has a great heart. I can tell by listening to him speak I can also tell the Sean things from the lens of a businessman about what is best for people's brand and what is best for What's gonna get the most views? There are certain people you think that God cares about what's gonna be best for your brand God cares about putting truth out there no matter what God not gonna be like yo I All that stuff that you were glorifying was excusable because that was your brand and you were eating off of it That's the lens I think Sean wasn't thinking through when he came up here made certain statements And that's just what I that's the lens I think through you recognize that I was not gonna be willing to compromise What I'm on and this message that I'm on even if I didn't rise to the level I'm at as D1 I'm in a very blessed position for and especially with the lane that I'm in you know I'm so blessed. I didn't have longevity a lot of success So some orders might try to act like we don't know who D1 is who who is this he clout chasing da da No, but but what you're saying about Sean and but about what you know, you just said I was like if you're not at a place where Spiritually you are there. You're not thinking about God every Every word that comes out of your mouth every action that you take great point You're not thinking about it If you are not if you have not been tried tested and approved because a lot of time we have to go through Be tried and tested before we really hold on tight to him all the time. Yes. Yes. So then you go all that is that is Beautifully brilliant what you just said because I am a man of God before I'm an artist on the mic Right a lot of people are an artist on the mic Before they are a man or a woman of God, you're right So you're not thinking about God as your foundation for everything that you say and do we were talking about a the brother Charleston white a little earlier and I'm like I can look and see that this brother has done community work This brother says stuff that it's like I agree with some of the stuff that he says But I also hear him say what does he say that he doesn't believe in God or something like that Or he don't believe in the Bible or he doesn't follow it when you say stuff like that It lets me know I so you're not rooted in anything That's like your foundation because depending on what your foundation is that's going to determine what your output is And it's not always about what you do. It's about how you do it So you could be doing a lot of good work But if how you do it is in a way that is making people say well for every good thing you do You're doing three negative things, you know, then they're not gonna take the good things seriously And so for me, I'm just really really really passionate about the fact that we need mental health services To be taking place in the lives of these artists in the industry But also fans need to think about their mental health Where are you at as a human being if you have become addicted to hearing music? There's glorifying murder glorifying the disrespect of women Glorifying popping your PUSSY and glorifying selling dope where you at as as a fan as a consumer You know because if the consumers were in a better place mentally, I think that they would say I Want an alternative to this like why would I want to let alone hear this all day? But then expose my kids to it But majority of people who listen to those songs who are doing all that the ones that I know of They're they're always saying oh, that's a club song So these are the people who are going to club Consistently every night every week and whatever these are the songs that they want to hear in the club because they try to turn up Positive songs and stuff like that. I guess it don't they don't get that turn up from mmm Well, they can because they exist. I mean they definitely exist But you're right you're right. It's it's people feeling like yo I gotta get I gotta give my fix and my fix is being able to turn up and being able to wild out right Yeah, that's what that's what I hear all the time, right, right? So I see a lot of Can they talk about what's that girl ski Things that she's talking about in her music and as being a female That's one thing a lot of we talk about on the show Can we always ask females and we have some other people who are here and she was like well She love it because every time she heard she want to turn up and stuff like that But what message is it given to the young girls, right? Correct? You know what I mean, correct But they don't care right just because something feels good doesn't it doesn't it feel good to To get that high that you get from doing drugs Doesn't it feel good to get to snort some cocaine and be like oh like I got that I got that rush Anything that's of the devil is gonna always feel good initially Especially when you're getting because Rolling Stones talked about her and being in was it number one or whatever whatever with that song Wow, so that's giving it was a song. Yeah, yeah, so that's given recognition to something that there you go See what I mean there you go So that's why that's why it's a spiritual war in this industry right now because I just won 2023 rap MVP as well from rolling out magazine, right? So when you got rolling out this willingness say we see the music and the moves that this brother has made in 2023 We're gonna crown him the 2023 rap MVP and you get rolling stone. Who's a bigger outlet exactly We gonna crown sexy red as having song of the year and all that stuff Do you think rolling stone cares about what is best for the black community? No, no, of course not That's not that's not what they're in business for they are a company. They are a corporation. They just care about What's gonna that was gone was gonna generate the most revenue? That's it So when people start to look at you as simply a cash cow for them Then they will exploit you all day long. It don't matter if you're making a fool out of yourself if you Speaking negatively about your community. They're like man. That's what people want. So now it's like dang Who who's really the biggest problem? Is it the is it the corporations? They just want to make money off of us by any means. Is it the fans? That's like, well I'm gonna say whatever I gotta say in order to get paid. Oh, is it the all is it the fans? Wow, is it the artists the fans? No, the corporations I wanted to ask you about like I did see like when Jim Jones was in the sway thing happened I wanted to ask you like do there be like like it was a thing where and in my son That's his name. Just dude here. I've been a fan of him. That's your boy. He said he knew you. Yeah, we know each other But the dude I always looked at him as when I asked you about the Jim Jones Situation on sway you went on sway first And when you went on sway dope interview, I watched that whole interview, you know, you always do a great job You know how to handle yourself, you know what I mean, but When Jim came on there, do you ever feel like like he was talking about his cousins or his little nephews or somebody like Like it could be a problem in the streets, you know, I mean like and and and the thing is This is a thing that You're not into like that's not the type of that's not even the type of energy you bring You know what I mean, correct Like you were dealing with children you dealing with all type of different things to where you're trying to uplift the Community church is every church is you hear you're speaking on a church engagement now like I Thought about them like man you at some point even me going out, you know dealing with different people It's a you got to do this anyway. It's always you don't know everybody know you you don't know them type situation Do you have a fear or how do you deal with that? Like? When it come to controversy with somebody like a biggest Jim Jones speak up and say hey, man You know one of my little cousins or somebody could pop out and pop off on them You know for mentioning my name, right? What does that put you at when it come down to it, right? There's no room for fear when you're doing God's work And you have to really self-assess and say is that why I'm doing this is to serve God Because if I'm doing this to serve myself I can get myself into a whole bunch of stuff that I'm not prepared for but when I recognize that man Not only am I serving God, but God also has me ordained God has my back So anything that's going on as a byproduct of what I'm doing I'm recognizing the understanding that God is with me through it all so with that being said The last thing you want to do is start to do God's work But then not have enough faith in God to know that he'll protect you and then to stop doing God's work That looks bad at that point. That's real So and when you when you first when you heard these statements and that whole situation happened Did anybody reach out to you? I know people know you so did people reach out to try to make sure that that was a Understand I seen and that's my boy, man I hadn't met him like you my my son or whatever I've listened to his stuff ever since he came around like far as the intellectual things he say now Do I challenge something I challenge anything anybody say so I don't don't ever get it twisted I'm a man first and I'm a man that I love God just like you and I have a book that I go by So I have to stand on the rules that I stand on you know what I mean, but he spoke Eloquently about the situation and a balance when I like the balance that he spoke on it You know what I mean? Mm-hmm, so I just was like did anybody reach out or did y'all ever come to a conclusion? Yeah, so one of the best one of the best parts about that whole Situation was one of my former students my man Fred O Bang. Yeah, you know, I used to break up Fights when he was in school, you know, and I used to try to keep him out of trouble Yeah, and for us to be grown men now for him to call me and he played the role of like a lie I'm gonna be a mediator in this situation. You know, I mean cuz he knows he knows Jim, you know And of course he knows me. I'm his big bro. I'm his teacher, you know So he reached out to me and that meant a lot because I'm like wow Look at this dude who I talked when he was in middle school who is now as a grown man, you know speaking Positivity and speaking in a way that that is like like navigating the The tender waters, you know, I mean that exists when it comes to like whoa, I know both sides So let me you know me so that meant a lot to me when he did that a lot of people a lot of people who know both of us Reached out and they're like no, this is two good dudes right here, you know, Jim Jones and D1 This is two good dudes right here that are we don't need to see this go left field You know because we know both of y'all so a lot of people did reach out and in terms of the conclusion from everything um, I got some real good news that I want to report and and I guess I love out of respect for For Jim and just for you know, just for everything moving forward I'll I'll wait until y'all see it, you know, rather than me Speaking it but just know I got good news to report rather than bad news And that's the thing that I was going to ask to like you guys openly have an issue But then privately resolve it and we don't know right right. I don't think that's good because we don't know where this whole situation is at Yeah, because the last time you said that you were on a Group text. Yeah, we're all we're talking but yeah, but you said that they weren't responding back to you Yeah, well since then he and I have responded only we've text each other personally I just thank God for the for the resolve and I think that should be as open as the issue was Absolutely, that's that's real. Yeah, that's real and you know when it's behind closed doors conversations Sometimes people be like, oh, I don't want people to know this or know my business But I don't see why it would be a problem to share that hey We've personally been in touch and like it's good energy being exchanged. That's right That way yeah, I think that is important Because you you remember key element in key moments Mr. Cervone is a partner hours of the show and he spoke up hard about that Now if he don't know I don't know the whole situation But if he don't know that was a resolve right, he's saying hey man d1 ain't going this out my little brother And I ain't playing about him, right? That this have to be something that some kind of way people know you're right people got to know this stuff You're right and that it that is absolutely real I'm very glad that you are saying that side of it because I'm waiting for I'm waiting for it to be something to where Jim and I both have the opportunity to show everyone Like what type of page we are now, which is which is a good page a really good page Actually, and I'm waiting for us to because it's that much more powerful when it's me and my brother You know I'm saying right here having that talk You know, yeah, so I'm waiting on that and I can't rush anybody's timeline or schedule But I do agree that this is actually really there Yo, this is really good that y'all saying is because it is important in hip-hop to not have these cliffhangers to where the last thing That people holding on to was something real bad and real negative because now they're like man I love you so much that I'm you know, I'm ready. I'm ready. It's up when in real life Behind the scenes. Yo, it's good. We we texting now. You know I'm saying we didn't we didn't communicate it in and it's all good Energy, you know I'm saying like it's all good and people don't know that and people don't know that So you're right people do need to know that and I think I've had so many people in my ear Man, I'm so glad we're talking about this I've had so many people in my ear throughout all of this stuff that has been just you know People try to tell me amen You shouldn't do this or you should never say nobody's name or you shouldn't speak on this or da da da da And a lot of it is just noise, you know, I'm saying a lot of it is noise I'm like, bro. If it ain't in the Word of God and That's the code. I'm following. I'm not following other people's codes So amidst me hearing a lot of noise Sometimes there's a lot of information that I have currently that I'm like, what's the best way to go about this being being? Respectful of all part is involved. Yeah, but you get to the point where you're like That's the devil if if I have good news, you know, I'm saying if I'm like nah, but I don't want to speak on this good news Why would I not want to speak on good news and that's the reality like like there's no Dead like I have no I have no bad news to report regarding me and Jim Jones It ain't this cliffhanger where we ain't never directly spoke to one another or communicated, you know I'm saying We have directly which is good one another at this point and there was mutual love and respect shown I think that's great. People people need to know that people need to know right. That's real So, um, I've always wondered cuz I know that you know kids are always online and stuff like that So what did your kids at school have to say about the whole issue and the whole issue popped off Everybody wanted to come to my office and sit down and talk. They're like, yo We we want to come in here and talk and you know, they a lot of people were like, yo my respect level for you has just gone Through the roof. Yes, because I see that you aren't changing throughout any of these situations You are standing boldly on what you believe in but you're not getting in the pigs pin and Losing your morals your values and your principles to to just be like, alright, it's a free fall. It's whatever, you know I mean, it's up now. So when people see that you're firm enough on what you believe in to not back down But that you are firm enough on what you believe in to not stray from the principles that you stand for that That's what's called a teachable moment So that's a lot a lot of my students a lot of the people around me Where there's my college students, whether it's my audience online, they are learning through this So that's why I don't think it's a bad thing for these situations sometimes to play out publicly because if I got Almost 600,000 Instagram followers right now almost 500,000 Facebook followers, you know 200,000 YouTube like what's the point of having all these quote-unquote followers if I'm not giving them anything to follow That's real. So I have to be able to not only give them You know dope balls in my music so they can listen to and vibe out too But what about when they have conflict in their own life and they got to be like, hey, how do I handle? Something that I'm going through with a co-worker or with a friend or with a with a person that just simply don't like me How do I handle it? Hopefully they could be like I saw D1 situation play out publicly and I saw what it would it look like to be a firm Man of God and not have to back down on anything you believe in but to also Move with love move with respect and move with class and dignity. Love is important Meek mills he came forward. It was something that came through for him for us for rest. What was that about? They I believe that he came to tears on that. Yeah, I believe that a bill got passed a bill got passed Pennsylvania, yeah, yeah And when you seen that and the reaction of it were you happy with the results? Extremely happy for that brother extremely happy for meek mill and for I don't think that meek would have faked those emotions at all You know I'm saying I know that that's coming from a real place And I'm proud of that brother and I'm praying that that type of moment could stick with him to know like yo This that same energy that I need to keep when I'm making music. I could still be raw I could still be you know talking about the reality of my life and my situation But I gotta know what it is. I'm fighting for I want and and it's something because when you when you think about it, you know those guys I don't know their faith. Okay. That's that's something I thought about way before now. I'm talking about I don't know what they stand on I don't know what they believe in And that's important because now I know how to approach and when you deal with the word of god You know there's Pharisees Sadducees and you know that there are scribes and you know that there are people who Even in the old covenant where they'd be the Hittites or the jubicites or the philistines You know that these people are who they are you have to identify with these people As a understanding what they believe in to understand how to deal with ministering to them You understand what i'm coming from. Yes, so each one of these people believe in something The only way I know is I can tell the fruit by the tree by the fruits it bear That's the only way I know what type of fruits are you bearing and this is going to depict to me who you are So now I know how to approach you in the midst of it all. I'm still dealing with spiritual warfare So I know that the person because you know like even in mark chapter five when he talks about lesion Lesion was just the the many demons that was dealing with the man But the man once the lesions was told to go out of him and go into the swine He was sitting there clothing in his right mind And he still stood on on business with jesus and then it was like dang, you know, i'm leaving and he told him He couldn't go he wanted to go with him. He said no, I want you to go back to the decapolis Which was the tin surrounding city You see what i'm saying so and i'm saying that to say each situation is different But you have to do it in a spiritual way in order to be able to pull these people out of the fire Right, correct. Correct. Correct. Now when you think about people that's in the fire We only think about one aspect. We're thinking about the artists, right? But at this point we have to think about the millions of fans that are in the fire as well Because for a lot of these fans, we don't know where they stand spiritually So for a lot of fans these artists are they pastors? These artists are the closest thing that they get into Constantly listening to somebody they spending money with these people they constantly allowing their words to feed them So these fans are looking up to artists so much so that whether or not they say it These artists are ministering to them. So my thing is how do we free the minds and the hearts and the spirits of the fans? Oftentimes. Yeah, oftentimes. We don't think about that. See there's two levels of oppressors in the game There's the corporations. I like to call them the commissioners and they are oppressing the artists as artists, you know They they got us in slavery straight up So they are oppressing artists and they're also oppressing fans All right, but then you got artists who are oftentimes oppressing fans as well Whenever you in a powerful dominant position and you got people that are clearly below you that are that are Listening to you looking up to you and then whenever you take advantage of that And you're not fair and equitable and have any type of morality to to how you're going about being a leader That puts you in a position of an oppressor So we got to think about it. There's two type of oppressors There's the companies the corporations and then there's the the artists that are also oppressing who the fans The fans are being double double oppressed. Wow I can say you You're different man because a lot of times people are looking at you and they're trying to understand What is d1's methodology when it comes down to how you deal with who you name? You you name jay-z. You name lil wane. You named Uh, who else was on there? 50 cent 50 cent you named Meek Meals rick ross. You named, uh, uh, jim jones or whatnot But how do you pick who you name and when you turn around and you do songs with the game? You do songs with uh big crit. You do songs with loopy. You do songs with uh, Everybody that you yeah, juvenile man and fresh killer Mike. How do you decipher? How do you pick? How do you cherry pick? Who you's going to do a music with and stand on the moors and the foundation that you Represent that's a great question. That's a wonderful question when it comes to picking When it comes to picking people who I may have ever named Over the course of my career in terms of saying that they can do better and whatnot. Um It's always people who You can clearly see how gifted and how talented and how smart they are Like you can clearly see it. It's like y'all brothers got Book who skills and y'all got a whole bunch of intellect and you can see it on you. It's dripping off of you But you're choosing to use that intellect and those skills intentionally to glorify negativity That's when it's like, ah I'm only going to tell somebody they could do better If I clearly know that they can do better Some people ain't capable of doing better yet because they haven't reached a point in their life They haven't reached a point in their maturity to where they even know anything different You know what I mean? But when you see that people Are capable of evolving in every other aspect of their life If I see that you man, wait, what you got a clothing store for real way You got four clothing stores. Wait, you uh, you're a successful husband You're a successful father. You a man of God. You all that But wait when you get on the mic, that's the only time you start talking like you You know, like you don't know nothing and and like you ain't got no intellect and and no morals about you That's the only time you do that Something I know you could do better. You feel me? Yeah, that's all it is, brother That's where that comes from and yeah And then renaissance because people, you know, like I said when you see the comments and you see the things It's being said on the stuff that I put out or that I see that you're in and they say Or just in general people say well d1, uh, he only do that. He's just cloud chasing He ain't got no big enough song to even relate to these guys that he's talking about And and you've heard that already like but you but but then some of them hadn't like I said to me didn't do the research Bro, I've been famous for too long, bro. Yeah, like let's just be real. I've been famous. I've been successful Uh, I've been financially in a wonderful place for too long at this point to where any of that stuff Means anything to me. We do live in a big world. You heard me got 8 billion people in this world So Book who people could know who I am and and be fans of me and patronize what it is I do and a lot of people still might be like, well, I don't know them But that don't mean just because you don't know did you do any googling Before like any of y'all fans who trying to but he cloud chasing They're trying to say three things when they can't discredit the message because the message is the truth They're trying to say one Rap music is just entertainment. It's just entertainment. Nobody taking it serious. They'll try to say that Number two, they'll try to say oh, he just cloud chasing all he just a cloud chaser He trying to yeah, he just trying to get on he trying to become Popular well known on the strength of other people and number three They'll try to bully you Because they'll look at me and they'll be like Well, we looking at him and we listening to him and he ain't talking like he about that trigger play He ain't talking like he no thug. You heard me that that's about that life So because of that we're gonna try to get aggressive with him and bully him And i'm not talking about other artists when I say this i'm talking about the fans fans. I'm talking about fans who who will who'll be Calling themselves acting on behalf of foot soldiers. There you go foot soldiers. You heard me They're trying to do those three things and all three of those things is just like That ain't gonna work on me The cloud chasing part i'm laughing at whoever tried to call me a cloud chaser like i'm laughing at that You know what I mean? I'm laughing at that let alone if it's somebody with a big platform You know like uh, like uh, what's my man name? Uh Joe um Joe buddin. Yeah, Joe buddin. I seen it. I seen that and when I seen it and You and Joe buddin. Have you ever met Joe buddin? No So you never met I was a fan of Joe buddins music bro when he was when he was putting music out I was I was one of the people that was putting my friends on saying no, I know y'all don't like this, dude But listen bro listen to this man. He he's speaking some real stuff right? Joe buddins is a better podcaster than a musician Okay, he ever been I'm from the south But Joe buddin, uh, rubbed me wrong a little bit about the migos And he you know when they was speaking and they couldn't understand him and he walked off on them um I don't These guys are the south is being disrespected. Anyway, and I don't think you understand The the the magnitude of what's happening when it comes down to just southern artists You understand got much you you and that sauce too. I ain't think about that I never thought about that. I'm just telling you and you're right and with everything that's been playing out I'm the southern dude. This is all east coast. This is all Exactly You this what I do on boss talk anyway So I'm looking at the whole mason dixon line and all that bro Like it's different for me. I just know that when you talking your dialect and the way that you from new Orleans that that adds something to who you are for them people, bro. Believe that got you got Being real when it comes to Joe, but I'm gonna go back to him. I I never I love his podcasting He's a hell of a podcaster when he come down to understanding how to Get into the issues and speak on what's going on and create his narrative He's good at that way better than being a rapper for me. I'm just being real. I don't know where you coming from I'm not right with that. I'm being real I never listened to pump pump pump it up. I heard it because it was the song they kept making you listen to on the radio But no no No, how do you come up with that? How do you say you love this music like that? You know you Brother, there's no part of me at this point that that's that's concerned with trying to When it comes to Let's get into it. Yeah, he had a he had a mixtape series called mood music. See he really be listened to I don't know this go ahead. It was good for you. Yeah, it was good for me. Yeah What was your favorite song? He had an album called padded room. I like that album too I think my favorite joe budden song is a song. He has um I just want to follow you leave I don't want the money. I don't want to I've never heard this song It's featuring joell or t's. I've never heard this song. It's a song where he's like talking to god Without saying god's name, but he's saying, you know, follow my lead follow follow my lead Prescription by us. I just want to follow me like he's talking to god about everything He's going through in his life and he's basically saying i'm tired of Being a being a slave to all of those things and I just want to follow your lead and I'm like man Why that would be your favorite song? There you go. Sure. So, you know, he knows he knows there you go I know he there you go, brother I know he knows I know he knows who god is and I know that he he has said in his music before He just want to follow god's lead. So therefore um My without calling his name though in the song How you sure it was god he was talking about Don't be hitting me with all these hard questions You gotta call him by his name I ain't never not got an answer for something but that is interesting. Wow Because you don't know we assume and we turn things to benefit us In our thought process because we can't think of it any other way because that's who we serve But how we know that that person is serving that he could Meet serving idols or whoever A lot of people believe in the sun and all kind of stuff, bro I'm gonna be honest with you. You don't ever know. You don't know what they what they're who they're You remember we talked about this last time you was on here when people say I want to give honor and glory to god You don't know right which god. Yeah. Well, I I do know that Uh That is just proof though the fact that I can name that I know y'all was like decaf and he That's a real Apologize. That's a real song. Yeah, you really yeah I don't know number pump pump pump it up Right, but I just jumped it up That's all I know see I know the song That I I know you know what I'm saying But definitely podcasting I respect them. He the big dog I respect what he's doing for us, you know, just the way he put all those people together in that room And and you know organize that that takes something and to come from where he come from I remember his first show, you know, where he went through some stuff to get to who he is now He went through some stuff. He made some great Entrepreneur moves it seems and I think that's big and where we are now today He got it on point. He probably one of the most popular people in that realm Gotcha, then then you'll ever see so do you but you still can't play with god I don't care how popular no no no. I definitely agree with that I had a question. I don't leave your button right now. Keep going. Okay. I was trying to because I really So so our introduction to each other. We've never met in person. We have never spoken But my introduction to him was him bringing me up on his podcast Okay, bringing bringing me up as a topic of discussion, right and instantly casting me off as He didn't even know who I was. He was like there was like d1. They were like who's d1 He was like, uh, apparently he's a podcaster from New Orleans or something like that and he made these statements recently And instantly he just cast me off as oh, he's a cloud chaser. You know what I mean? And that's one of the big three people are either say He's a cloud chaser. They say rap is just entertainment. So don't take that stuff so serious that their people are sending their lyrics Or they'll try to be on some bullying type stuff and be like, oh a little man. Like, who are you? So instantly he he did one of the big three just try to cast me off as a cloud chase and That's where I was like wow, bro Really grew up, uh, you know advocating for your music to other people That's interesting that that's like that and you a rapper if anything Maybe do a little all you got to do is a quick google. I'm so google-able. It's ridiculous You're like you could google me and see all of what I'm doing 11 albums out then toward this country More than 10 times. I ain't even got enough fingers to count all these collabs. I done did but instantly No, no no journalism being done You know, I'm saying on on a show where you're covering other people and just because you may not have heard of me instantly Oh, he just a cloud chase. Oh, you ain't gotta call people's names. I'll da da da But my issue is brother your whole show the way that you remain relevant at this point Your whole show is based on topics where what's almost every one of your topics is talking about other celebrities You're right. I seen where you put up where he apologizes a lot You pulled that up. I see it was a bunch of what made you go into the apologetic, uh, uh Search google search. That's a great question too. That's a great question because I am a busy man. I'm a college professor I'm a full-time artist who's pushing his music Who's also putting new content out on social media constantly? I don't even be having time to deal with a lot of this stuff You know, so I get around to something when I get to it So somebody has sent me a clip where he was apologizing to my brother Lupe fiasco That's my brother right there. You heard me. That's what gave me this watch that I wear Everybody always loved this watch. Oh my god. Lupe gave me this when we were on tour together around the country, right? So with that being said They sent me a clip where he in the same clip He was apologizing to Lupe in the beginning of the clip and then near the end of the clip As soon as he finished apologizing to Lupe, he said But that other Oh, I ain't uh, oh, he oh, he's he's cloud chasing that other. Oh, he cloud chase. Oh that that that christian Oh, yeah, he's a cloud chasing christian your your cloud chasing And da da da da he was a mother cloud chasing this da da da In the same clip where he's apologizing to Lupe So in order to see the clip I had to go and type in on youtube Joe budden apologizes to and I was typing in Lupe fiasco after I typed in Joe budden apologizes to a lot of them came up Wow That's crazy. So it's just like, okay, um I've never apologized or had to apologize For anything that I've said because if I bring somebody's name up, I'm willing to speak to them I'll never talk about somebody without being willing to speak to them So with that being said it's like, yo, what is that? Apologize for when i'm standing on the word of god That's my foundation and when i'm willing to talk to anybody not just talk about them And that hits different when it's like some people you don't know what they foundation is That that's making them stand on what they stand on so all that i'm standing on business Everybody said is what kind of business i'm standing on kingdom business You heard me what kind of business y'all standing on they got all kind of businesses. They got check cash in business They got fast food business. They got clothing business. They stand on business man. I'm standing on kingdom business That's hard to kingdom business the business need to be stood on come on man. So so so it'll be specific You heard me. So that's how hard yeah So when you heard, you know, because he had an issue with nba young boy here recently and what he did I think didn't he apologize But I think bird man a bunch of them spoke out man They weren't trying to hear it about him be a young boy. You know what I mean? Like like these these podcasts are going great. What do you think about the podcast? I know you had a question. Do y'all have to go off and go all the way in? Yes, I did. Okay. Um, you know, the internet can be very Ruthful very ruthless. Sorry and um Recently I've seen what's been in the news recently is the pd day and um td jakes td jakes show is You ain't seen that this this just happened yesterday and I'm trying to three days Was a bit like two or three days. All right. I literally text somebody today I was like, yo, I'm trying to understand what everybody's talking about And all these memes, um, I heard in a tick talk Because that's the first place I heard it because somebody was doing a review on a tick talk And it was saying that all those wild parties that um puff daddy was having on all the crazy stuff td jakes was there at those parties That's what I was hearing and I'm like, I need a man of god Who is you know, I know He's like he wanted to be like, okay. Where's the proof of that? Who is the Because I know that he'll be in the industry at all times with filmmaking and stuff like that So he knows a lot of people and he might be Because if say example puff daddy is having a party and he said let's do some a meeting Meet me at my house. Meet me at my house the party is there But we over here in my office talking business And then somebody could see td jakes walking out when the party people coming in. Oh, he was at the party It could go so many different scenarios But for the main fact you are there when all the party people come in there Oh, you was there. You was over. You know what I mean? Yep. You never know. Dang That's such a great point. You know and and and and the world is so weird nowadays that I just saw a clip of method man to where method man was making a point a great example and talking about How stuff could be taken out of context. So he was like for example I could say man, I just saw Kanye and Kanye was over in the party doing x y and z and he was like they would they would take that clip and Edit out the rest of what I said and just use that And even though that's the whole thing that he said guess what them people did They took just that first part of what he said and when this came out They was like, oh method man said this about Kanye at the diddy parties and it's like no method man Was using that as an example of how people could take something out of context Like that stuff is crazy and then fit the sand posted it Just the first part. So now fit the sand with 20 something million followers posting this and how many people seeing just that clip of method man Method man jumping the comments and just was like nine five like that ain't that ain't the full clip You know, I mean y'all fell for the remix like that ain't the full clip So fit it might end up saying okay I'm gonna take that post down or you know, my bad method man Maybe something like that happens But once again, how many people saw that clip the first time after fifth posted it and didn't see the apology or something Because there's a lot of that's why I gotta be public. That's why this stuff gotta be public If something starts out public, that's one thing I agree with Jim Jones on like like I heard from his people that He was like, yo, and I was like, I really respect that brother for saying this that since this situation has started out publicly It should also play out publicly between me and him for people to see Two black men constructively building even if they got off to maybe a rocky start, you know, I mean and I so agree with that I really admire that brother for saying that because if it plays out privately even if it's a positive resolution All people remember is what they last saw in their mind. That's why it was so powerful when sway back in I think 2006 Did the interview with jay-z and nye's sitting together, you know, I mean when people saw that Now you can't get that out of your head when you once said man, it was just dissing each other Nye's make ether jay-z make takeover jay-z said this about nye's nye said this about jay-z But then when you publicly see them sitting down laughing together dapping each other off That's powerful right there. Very powerful man. You you got to understand man You think about all of the different things that you've seen go on man and recently like I said when I think about you um The thing that keeps sparring is like dang man Rick Ross is a big voice, bro Uh, you know, I'm saying when I seen him come up And like I said the first I thought I was like, dang, I know on here you talk you brought him up You was like god forgive me. I don't that album But then you left her and then it's kept it was something else came up like When you heard him say that Being that you you never met rick ross, correct But what did you think when you heard him speak like that? Well, you you brought it publicly, right? Yeah So what did you did you expect that could happen? With the type of with the type of statement that I made there wasn't a statement being disrespectful or anything And basically what exactly did you say? I literally said the words rick ross. You can do better, brother I love you too much to not be honest with you. That's what you said. That's all I said, brother You could go you could go look at the swing That's the exact words I said And you didn't go specifically about what what what part of my life? What what are you talking about? I spoke about how the new music that uh That the him and me kept put out. I was like man, I just listened to the two new singles that came out And I was like man Just to hear like you're a great rapper like you are a great rapper Nobody can take that away from you and when people hear you would show big voice, you know speaking About murder in a way that you glorifying it and you putting that out there and you glorifying drug dealing and all this stuff like that That could be that could be part of Helping pull somebody in the wrong direction in their life, you know, and I was just like man like we could do better, man We could all do better and I was just giving examples. So that's all I said. So when I saw the way that um They rigorous uh chose to respond, you know instantly went to um Insulting me and calling me basket head, you know, I'm saying and calling me uh basket head Little man called me a fake roster. You heard me trying to imitate my New Orleans accent. You know, he didn't do a great job But you know, uh, yeah trying to uh try to imitate my accent and I was like, hmm Well, you just said a lot bro but one thing you didn't do was address what I brought up which was You having the ability to do better when it comes to your lyrical content, you know I'm not talking about what you're doing in the communities. He brought oh, he also brought up He gives out uh turkeys in the community, you know, and I was okay. You talking about turkeys, but a lot of people A lot of people jumped in immediately and was like that's the same thing. You know brown did Yeah, that's the same thing. You know brown did you hear me and and and bumper johnson. Uh, uh, yeah, uh, uh, Yeah, bumper johnson On american gangster. He gave with frank lucas frank lucas gave out to turkeys and then Uh, uh, but he got it from uh the guy that he uh, he he answered To yeah, so so they both gave out turkey. That's the thing that that the gangsters do in the community To give back During the during the i think that's a That's the way the directors are writing it for sure and he's supposed to be true stories a lot of not the nino brown one But it mimicked the frank lucas. Yeah, so that's something that's being done all the time But I would think that they do more in the communities. I don't know because I don't I don't know But he wasn't talking about what he did what they do in the community talking about How you feed your fans soul with this music and I totally you know, I agree with that part of it because um I spoke on that before and I'm always a person who Look at different side of views. You know what I mean? I agree with that But then when we go back to I don't know if he believes in god I don't know if he his foundation is you know such and such to say god he got an album called god forgives I don't People say all the time I give you know glory but Does that mean that you really you might say god because everybody else says god. Do you really have a relationship with him It's it's a thing like when you think about it. I to exactly what comes to mind is is like romans chapter 10 if you go read them first one through ten verses where it says they had a zeal for god But not according to the knowledge exactly You see what I'm saying the wrong the people had a zeal for god the Pharisees and the people of the olden time They love god But not according to the knowledge. They didn't have the knowledge. You understand what I'm saying So a lot of times people uh, they mimic what they see and what I was saying about I was zeal for god But not according to the knowledge you you've seen this traditionally done to serve god a certain way Sometimes people serve god without the knowledge without even understanding. Well, how do there's supposed to serve? But who are we let me just say this We supposed to be examples Yes So who are we so who are we to not speak up? That's my point is who if we pose to be examples, who are we to not speak up when we see people that may be Straying from the teachings of god But claiming that they do believe in and follow god Which you are supposed to speak up But i'm just saying with him That's a life He knows just like the things that he rap about and yes, you would imagine that okay You graduated from that you're not doing that anymore So you shouldn't be rapping about what you did in the past or if you did rap about it Because I've heard you say you need to let's not go to watch a movie. Yeah, you have your villain You have a good guy, but you have a good outcome You need to show the outcome of where you are and how did it you graduate from here to here And not just talk about the negative but show the graduation in your rap So you give people that positivity at the end of the the role to show that okay You can now elevate from what you're doing. I don't think that's the life He knows because but that's what I wonder he knows is that big old house that I keep seeing in the big old cars And he's you see what he knows That's what I'm saying So he's rapping what he knows Over 10 we don't know if he knows anything else from that He know mentions he know money Listen to your husband Listen to your husband Listen to your husband A hot wing wing was wing stops Wing stops He's an entrepreneur That's what he knows don't play because you see it play out in his lifestyle Everything that he's doing from the car show all this stuff is public information Right, so you see everything that he really knows and he knows that he is successful as hell with a big with a big house And it's so huge that that you I see the drone footage of it man when they do them car shows man I'll be like man. I gotta get down to ricks. I want to I want to take my old school down there So you see like his his his his lifestyle. It's it's displayed for us over the years He's won so many different awards and been in so many hip hop awards and influence so many different people Gunplay and all these people you've seen his walk now when he first started it might have been Well, you've seen some stuff where they said he was a correctional officer, too So there's a lot that goes with rick ross You've seen him battle the uh a freeway ricky ross about his name So there's a you've seen 50 and he'll get into a big controversy So you see his life you see his life playing in front of you But do you see that in his music though? No, no, it's different It's different it's it's like when I with that one song I you know, I just interviewed Larry Hoover You know Larry Hoover, Jr. In Chicago and that was a song that was so cold. I think I'm big media Larry Hoover whipping work hallelujah one nation under God Real is getting the money from the can start That's the lyrics. Come on, man. We go we we're gonna stop playing with God. That's so that's what we that's what we're gonna do. Um That's why I'm in this game. We're gonna stop playing with God It's one thing to not know But it's another thing to know and to believe in God and to just be like, yeah, I'm just gonna say that And we're gonna stop playing with Christianity We're gonna stop that So that same stuff that Joe Budden's saying to me this christianness and your christian this and and you are christian effing Thawing in my side and all that you wouldn't say that about no jews You wouldn't say no jewish this or jewish that towards somebody. You wouldn't say that about no muslims You wouldn't we're gonna stop playing with christians like that. That's one thing we're about to do We're about to stop playing with christians. We're about to stop playing with God How do how how do how do you how do you get people to stop playing with them people to stop? That's when you stand on kingdom business. You hear me? That's when you stand on it and be like, no I'm not so if you're gonna keep saying that I'm gonna have a reply for you every time Especially if you're bringing my faith into it and my spirituality into it. Oh, yeah, I'm gonna have a reply for you every time Brother, I'm way too successful. I'm too blessed on every level to worry about the worst thing you got Is you call me a cloud chaser What come on? We had a comedy show right now like come on, bro Like let's be for real, but we're gonna stop playing with God. We're gonna stop playing with christianity That's just real But I think about you know God put us through different things to make us stronger and when I think when I hear about like I saw one of your interviews and you're talking about when you were younger and how much you were being bullied and stuff like that It's to me when you're younger and you're being bullied it and you overcome that you learn how to make A tougher skin learn to make it run off of you When you're older now now you're being bullied again It's like it don't really like What's this like really? Yeah, it's like it's like that's not gonna work. I'm about to show y'all right You know how to deal with that. What's the irony? This is how God worked. What's the irony that I just put out a children's book called David found his slingshot And it is literally an anti-bullying book right and this is real life This is me when I was a little kid in New Orleans. You hear me? That's somebody who went to school with me who used to be bullying me this way back in kindergarten and I figured out by finding my slingshot your slingshot is a metaphor For finding your gifts that God has blessed you with for finding your passion And when you find your slingshot and you use it for the purpose God designed it for You become victorious. You know what I mean? And I don't want to give the whole book away But this book ain't about violence. Is it out? Yeah, it's all right now. I need to get copies for my grandkids It's all right now. I'm gonna give you the website. Yeah, it's mission-visionlifestyle.com. You have multiple copies on you right now No, it's the only copy. Yo, you know Christmas Everybody been getting these things online That's how we're gonna give them to him. So what's the irony? This is like my this is like the the one on the showroom floor that should you So what's the irony that I just wrote an anti-bullying hip-hop children's book And what we see going on in the industry right now is a form of people Trying to say well, we're gonna try to bully this dude, you know We're gonna try to bully him out of out of putting the the the truth out there, you know So your modern day david which your name is david name is day And so when they they you didn't know when your parents named you that you are going to be walking into that purpose And it's like you're slaying the giants Right and it's not the people it ain't even the people right? I know exactly working through the people Exactly into maybe even the corporations. There you go. You know what I mean? And I have no fear right. They're also giants as well Absolutely, let me just say man get this book man david man. Come on david found this slingshot all your kids and grandkids You guys got to check this out and that's why man. I love you, bro Like you so authentic, bro Like that's the whole game for me like we came into this thing and we try to be We want to be to you know, keep a fair game going. It's not easy, bro I commend you, bro. Like you don't understand man. Like I say this really with like like You know, we come in this game trying that we gonna do every positive interview we could man We tried our best. We ended up getting in all kind of stuff, bro I'm not playing but it was a read but but you know my God said my grace is sufficient for thee. You know, my strength is perfected in weakness So what I would go through it helped us too, but I'm just saying man. I commend you for staying the course Yes, because a lot of people don't bro. Like a lot of people give up a lot of people turn back See what I'm saying. Yeah, so man. Thank you, man. And don't stop don't ever stop speaking up for god, man Well, why would I turn back stop? I'm turning up. God. Yeah, like you gotta understand man That's powerful to see you step out on faith and say these things and be courageous enough because a lot of people Want to say I mean and they walk in fear. Yeah Fear is what holds them back So hopefully they could look at me and and see an example of like, oh, it's possible It's possible. It's possible to not have fear to stand on kingdom business You heard me and to be dope at what you do. I just put a song out that is This song is buzzing all over the industry. It's called lines drawn I put this song out about everything I've been going through with the music industry And it's me standing up to him saying I'm just drawing a line in the same And I'm saying what side of the line are you on are you on the side where you want to push and advocate for righteousness? Or you want to push and advocate for wickedness, you know what I mean? So, um, I'm gonna spit it for y'all. I'm gonna spit some balls So lines drawn I say All I hear y'all talking about is your money in large amounts must think accountability is your ability to count It's not that's why this culture lukewarm intoxicated with ignorance. Let me spit the truth form I said the glorifying murder in our music was bad. Now people coming at me saying stop speaking up We like to hear that if that's your preference, that's cool But when you get on the defense, then let me know my spirit irritating your demons I'm supposed to back down because it's some internet hatred. I've been defeating galaiz, baby My first name david all year round. We feed people death and destruction You heard me, but it's okay because on thanksgiving we give them some turkeys People threaten and hurt me. People say I'm clout chasing. They want the evil unopposed, huh? That sound like satan, but I'm responding with love Matured as I go through this It ain't just about how I love jesus. It's about how well I love judice man They can't silence my voice. I'm gonna be vocal forever. These people hating on you D They're gonna be local forever. I got the industry shook that guilt can't pile up I drew a line in the sand and it messed they ampile up. I ain't here to blame it or frame it But it's all about how you frame it Naive will has an excuse and it's called entertainment You got a three-part ecosystem the labels are one but without creators and consumers labels can't run So what the fans support is what the artist gonna make got a deprogrammed and reprogrammed what we consume and create I got so much more to say but I let god lead the way trust I must serve you in dosis. Oh, no bow to start coaching you three two one I'm gonna say this man, you know, I just really know that you love these brothers I know that you love the brothers that That may you may say their names, but you love these brothers because we have love in our heart We're not in this game to see nobody lose No, we want them to win in the right way Right. Yes. So I know already some people think we know that though you walk in flesh We don't we don't walk to the flesh. We know a spiritual warfare, right the person as I explained about lesion It's not the issue. It's the lesion the many demons that possess the man that is the that is the Pretty much the one that you have the issue with yes the spirit So it's a spiritual warfare and and I'm being real I know that there's love when they come down to rick Ross and their man I've watched these guys and I know you've been fans of them no matter what To see their movement to see their evolution and that brings up a question too, though Like do you you do understand that certain people on certain levels and dealing with certain devils? Yes. Oh, that's a great. Uh, that's a that's a bar right there I do understand that absolutely and I think that the main devil when you get on that type of level Is the devil of feeling like you are a god at that point because of all of your power Because all of your money and now without even realizing it you went from worshiping the god To worshiping the green god Yeah, and that's the devil that a lot of people got to be aware of because when you are talking about being in love with money That is directly in opposition to what god tells you and all we hear people talking about is it's about the bag It's about getting the bag that's directly in opposition to what god tells you he said don't fall in love with the money You know what I mean? That's right. Just get the money but use the money as a tool That money is a tool man. That that that ain't that ain't nothing got no kind of power over me We're supposed to be a slave to jesus christ if you are slave to a green piece of paper Man, you didn't fail for the old it's easy to get caught up in thinking that gain is godliness like I told you last time But godliness with contentment is great gain Yes, yes, because you think that just because I make this much correct It makes me closer to god. Correct. Correct. That was that prosperity gospel that that got caught up in her You know years ago too. It's the same thing. You know what I mean? And more so to those guys who are on these big stages and All these people are staring at them and sure, you know hollering for them. It's not easy, bro I know it's not easy, but to who much is given much is required So these guys are you have to pray for them. I know I I pray for everyone, bro So I know you pray for I get to sit in the room with them, bro You they know you a lot of people say why didn't d1 inbox him No, I'm being real a lot of people said that When I when I go to my company why he didn't just inbox him Why would he what you know I'm saying? Why would he just say their name and they got their album coming out? Why you just didn't inbox them What are we even hold on I'm trying to show you my service bad up You should have got on the wi-fi. I'm trying. Oh, y'all got wi-fi. Yeah, you should have got on the wi-fi Look, that's just one example Wow Look at that date and look at what today is that was done before that's a month ago. Yeah That's before all this stuff that's been planned out. You know I'm saying you you can see that come on, man I like your frame, but yeah, come on. But that's what I'm saying. So you do reach out. Yeah Yeah, that that part but but it fall on deaf ears that that that part that part I thought well, you know, you didn't know me. I remember that You know, you reap what you saw Yeah, no, but I know you reach out, you know, what was it? It was the one you you talked about it last time He's on here and I just want to uh, put put light back on it The where you brought these two guys together the younger guys, of course Who was that again? Was that uh, was that uh, was that who was that? Well, freddo and mba I didn't bring them together these young brothers brought theyself together. Okay. I was like that and and and and and said Hey, we we calling nobody talked about it. That's what you that's what I'm saying Nobody wanted to talk about that these young brothers in their 20s came together I love and respect that type of moves so much. That's hard. That's so hard when you see that So I'm just like man if that could happen. Who are we to Like I said, I would love to speak to rick ross. I would love to speak to me I would love to speak to jim jones. We've already communicated great interaction. You know what I'm saying? I would love to speak to jill budden, you know Our hater is gonna hear me say that and be like see that was his plan the whole time He just trying to he just trying to do that so he could get next to them dudes Bro, I am not trying to sign to none of these dudes. I'm not tripping on we got to do some music together It ain't about none of that. I'm just saying because of how this stuff has played out at the end of the day I'm open to any of that stuff But if we are not ever getting to the point where we willing to have difficult conversations Then we cannot solve these difficult problems. Wow. I agree 100 man. Um Kodak black gets back in trouble And I know you had dealings with Kodak like how how big of a letdown was that like when you've seen that happen in him and like Have you been able to speak to him? I haven't spoken to him since that that recent stuff And I really hope that things can Turn out just in in his favor ultimately to where he can grow closer to god through all of this stuff I don't even know the facts of what has happened once again Y'all be knowing the actual factuals of stuff So I just hope he could grow closer to god through all of this stuff and that I could be of service in any way possible for that Young brother. Wow. Um, that's the thing man. Like we can't forget about you know Words that I was in prison and you didn't visit me like you know that people onisomus went to the prison and Ended up running from a slave master or whatnot But whatever the case made him and paul ran in each other But it's stuff like that like that tells me reassures me that when people do go through these trying times as people who believe We have an opportunity at that point to reach out to them and and just say hey, man, you know what I mean Um, you know matter of fact, I believe that's a lot It's a lot easier when you want ones in confinement to get a get a letter to them and be like, hey, man You know, I'm here for you. You know, that's the thing that Kodak black has an anointing on his life Wow that if he takes it seriously and if he allows God to work through him He is going to be one of the most powerful voices of his whole generation for righteousness For unadulterated like uninhibited righteousness Is money moses still in here? Money moses. What's up, man? Come over and speak to D Man, your D1 is in the building. He said he was coming to holla at you. Wow. What up money moses? He's asleep over there. Oh, he over there sleep. Yeah, he's asleep over there Serving it surfing his phone Yeah, I mean the mic is over here, man You good? You get the chairs over there, man Like I think he went had a few questions before you get out of here. We got it. We got show load of money moses Yeah, he's gonna always be with boss talk man. There you go. There you go. There you go. Do I get him like this, baby? Yeah, you gotta fix it. There you go. All right. That's easy easy enough. Um, so Money moses when you when you think about what's been going on since d1 left the show I know last time you was you was on last time. I know nothing Last time you didn't know nothing. I know nothing. What you mean at the concession. He's like, uh, you can't listen to my music yet I don't remember that. Sure. Sure. It did. Sure. Now. I love him. Oh, you wouldn't listen to it. I still ain't listen to his music Wow Why do you love it because it makes you put it out. It's the same thing for my sex red. Remember that? Yeah, yeah, he's been a sex red He's been uh, you know, it's not sex red It's it's it's what they putting out what they it's like a label. They push her to make their music They want her to make it. Wow. And Mick mill said it best. He said Mick mill said the lay he he want to make good music But the label pay for the music he making wow music. He said it That's um, so how do you get out of something like that d1 when the label is pushing you to make music to influence The people in a negative way to make sales. You gotta stand on business stand on kingdom business You got to make your decision. Am I going to be a slave to the label? Or am I going to be a servant to god? Wow, you got to ask yourself that just because the label is pushing you to do something doesn't mean that you have to do it right It's that simple Man, we we steadily want to talk about these artists and these artists at what point I got two things to say and I got to make sure to say both of these before we end this interview One is we put so much emphasis on the artist at what point Do we start trying to reach and teach the fans to where it's like, yo If y'all truly wanted to see something different then Y'all need to start consuming something different and these artists nine out of ten artists would change They would change their message if they started the fans wanted to see something different Because artists for the most part are just like, hey, whatever the people want here. That's what I'm going That's what I'm going to spit about so at what point do fans be like, dang We really want to see something different or do the fans really not want to see anything different Yeah, yeah, no, you're 100% right. What did you think when you seen All the stuff happen with d1 after you left here. Oh, I loved it Why I loved it because it's the way I'm trying to go I'm gonna tell you this you and I can tell you this I pray last night if I would sleep and it's more if I woke up Whenever I ever did that Like I don't never just do that My brother, that's some just start telling me to do that. I'm gonna tell you what tell me I'm gonna sit on camera though But I just once I had the conversations like I started doing that every single morning Every single night because I actually see what's going on. Like we don't have to grow then who gonna help them Because they they want us to fall just they plan for us to fall That's community. I see it. So now it's like we got who got to sit together Don't we gonna fall our unity is very important every every fan need to ask themselves this What do I stand for like what do I want to represent? Because it's easy to finger point at artists and say what this artist is doing right with this artist I ain't doing right, but as a fan What do you stand for and represent and if all you stand for is somebody that's just trying to give money by any means Necessary as a fan you got to ask yourself Is that why God put me on this earth is that the best use of my life down here is to just be going after the bag Now we got to have some Deeper more meaningful principles than just getting money that we stand on and we got to know that those principles are priceless When you stand on priceless kingdom principles that makes your life purpose driven And that purpose is bigger than money, but when you don't know what you stand for you think your only purpose is money I can take you away from me. Why do you think how did you and sway get to have such a relationship? Yo, you see what I'm saying like like I said I went when I started researching I was like I put in sway and it came up with a all every since like a long time ago What made you what connected the dots for you to and Now that I think about it. Joe budden was a part of uh the m&m, which is the slaughterhouse. Yeah So all that kind of That may be why budden got you in its scope. I don't know. I'm trying You know, I'm just trying to figure out how you get in this scope, you know what I mean But but anyway, like how did you and sway get so, you know, you know, like yeah Well, the first time I did an interview with sway was in 2014 and I had just done the bt hip hop awards. I was on the cipher and I was going through so much spiritually and personally at the time and even professionally man And I was in like a dark depression a lot of people didn't know that man Like a lot of people didn't know that I was on the verge of like committing suicide and all kind of stuff And in that first interview I did with sway like I broke down crying, you know, I'm saying and I really was I was fractured as a as a man as a human being and It was something about doing that interview with sway that allowed me to like Cross a bridge that I needed to in order to know that like I was bigger than just that That season that I was in, you know, I mean I was put I had just signed to rca records I was putting so much pressure on myself to try to win the favor of the label So the label would really start supporting me and rocking with me I did the bt hip hop awards and I didn't feel like I did my best on there And I knew I was like dang almost like feeling like you made it to the super bowl And you didn't Win, you know, and I was like man Here we go another L David another another another mess up another You could have did better, you know, you could do better type of moment and I was so hard on myself in that moment And then it was just on the calendar. Oh, you're going to see sway today You're doing a sway interview and I did that sway interview matter of fact, I'm lying to you That was the second interview I did with sway was that one the first interview I did with sway was a year before that and when I met him. I just felt the level of peace and comfortability With dude and I also felt like oh, he is a champion for me in the industry He's the type of dude that even when I'm not around he's speaking my name in rooms and speaking good about me And that's priceless That is priceless and I saw that a year ago So when I did my second interview with him and I was going through so much I was like This was God ordained that I came on this platform today because after that interview I did a song about it. I got a song called the sway interview Wow And it literally talks about how at different points to the interview at the five-minute mark He asked me about this at the eight-minute mark. We talked about this at the 12-minute mark I said this and in the song I'm naming all these timestamps and I'm talking about how I was feeling internally During the moments and everything that interview really helped save my life. Wow That time you were believing in God at that time. I was I definitely was but I was also Fresh off of being a teacher Seeing success in the music industry signed with a major label with rca records and not really Not really having the support of the label at the time and having what I thought was the biggest platform I would ever get in my life, which was being on the bet hip hop awards at the time So me feeling like yo this right here this night got to change everything You know I'm saying this night what I do on these awards when I spit in this site for this got to change Everything putting all that pressure on myself and what I did I was in a season at that at that point in life where I would be overthinking things So instead of doing what God Pushed me to do I'll be sitting there. You know how when I spit for y'all right now y'all be like god dog Getting goosebumps back then I'll be overthinking the second guess and everything like I wonder if I say this if that's gonna appeal to this audience Or if I say this if they gonna like me enough or or the streets gonna like me enough or the females gonna like me enough So I would just be overthinking the second and third and fourth guess and everything because god wasn't on the forefront at that time That's all I'm hearing because it goes back to what we're talking about earlier Have when you have god at the forefront and you're using god to say i'm doing it for him You're not worried about nothing else. Yeah, so you understand what I mean There you go and that that right there that right there did it um So that was 10 that was almost 10 years ago That was like nine years ago and that literally could have been the end of everything for me Like I was losing my motivation to rap around that time I was losing my motivation to live around that time right and I can honestly say that Because I shook back from that from that uh from that low that I was at in life My life has been way better since then god put angels in our life at different points in our life To help us through you understand what I mean just like how you have a strong belief in him now And you put him on the forefront, you know, you believe then and what i'm trying to get through is that We all are human beings. We all have downfall mentally spiritually Whatever on a daily basis because the devil come at us in different ways Whether through somebody or even through yourself people don't understand that a devil attack you personally More than they're using other people because it attacks you right here because just like how you said you were thinking about this You're overthinking that uh, it's not nobody telling you to overthink all this stuff is in your head And people battle with this in a daily basis in the mind man, and that's just that's the way it goes Exactly and but what did I want to go back to sway like In that interview that you made this song about and just during that time period What this way say to you that made that so you know such a such a touching and defining moment You know in in in you in your walk Yep, I could tell that he wasn't judging me for being vulnerable You know and that he saw better for me In the future that for like I could tell that for him It's like brother what you are called to is bigger than just something in the music industry Like don't define yourself by this one moment that you may be feeling you didn't do your best You know and all of the stuff that I was thinking I was really looking at myself as a failure at that time You know and to have somebody who Is believing in you more than you believe in yourself. You never forget that person Wow when you had a point in life where somebody is believing in you more Like in a real way more than you believe in yourself. You never ever forget that person Okay, and and I'm gonna move a little bit over like I brought him up earlier, but when you like Nas How did you even get to even know Nas? How did you even meet Nas? Yeah, like I want to meet Nas. Yeah I'm a big Nas fan. Yeah, and I'm gonna be real. You're not cool enough to meet I'm trying but I can't get nobody else me in the DM like you If I can get that part going I might can get to meet Nas But I'm just saying like and I want to say something too back to sway before I forget man sway is one of the guys that He represents a whole hip-hop culture. Yeah, he represented. He helped when I think about him the south He I don't see him as biased no way Like he's one of the guys that I look at that I can see that he's not he's from new york, right? But he don't know a sweat from the big he's from oakland. He's from oakland. That's why There had to be a reason damn I hope to give him new york cause they um say That nigga from oakland. He's so love because he healed from that. That's it. Yeah, man Them new york boys hard to get around but Let's make it but that's because they the mecca man They started it but at the end of the day like but just to go back man like Nas is a is a is a guy that from new york for sure and um one of the patriarchs man Like like in the culture the hip-hop culture like how was it meeting us and had was that your first time meeting us? Uh, oh that that video I just recently posted. No, that wasn't my first time. You know, it's like my fifth time meeting him How you know much now? Yeah, man. Look your ball. Yeah. I met now. I met nice. Um, I met nice 10 years ago for the first time As south by southwest you ever been there? Yeah, I never been there, but I sent people down there. Okay. I sent people I'm old. So I got in the game. Oh, okay. So so I send money moses and a few other That's why you got to go to things like that. I'm gonna do I'm gonna do for you Do you want it ain't like it used to be Okay, well 10 years ago. That's when I met nice was at south by southwest He was having a sit down the same way we having to sit down with him and steve stout Okay, so imagine being like On the fifth row and you just sitting here watching nice and steve stout build and talk about business and talk about they come up in the game That's the type of opportunity that That I was a part of from going south by south. Yeah, people say that a lot of people say that Yeah, bro So I I didn't did all that all the networking stuff man going to the conferences You know, uh Doing what I got to do the network with all this and produces It's so many people who as they continue to see me rise and elevate in this game It's so many people who'll be like man. I remember you from Handing out your cd outside of the drake concert in New Orleans in 2009 Man, I remember you from south by southwest 2012 and you did this show with snoop dog Man, I remember you from and it'd be the most random Man, I remember you from a mighty grab parade and you was giving out flies You put a flyer on my car and I thought you was trying to break in my car, man And then da da da and I love that because it just shows. I ain't taking no shortcuts Okay, did you but then to build a relationship when uh to keep seeing him Did you did you build a relationship over the years or it's just y'all just hanging out when you're seeing? Yeah, I mean at this point. Oh, no, we don't we don't uh, what's your color? We don't hang out like we don't all the time type of thing Or you but correct correct But when I see me and then when I see your knowledge, yes indeed and be proud of me and and and you watch your journey There you go. Watch the journey He watched he saw from when the dreadlocks wasn't even touching my my neck to now They almost to my waist and he see man every time I see you you in a higher position, you know So that's big. That's me at Harvard University now. You're teaching at Harvard. That's a bit people don't know that Everybody I tell that they'd be like, I ain't know that I tell I just told big tuck that a while ago I just you heard a big tuck. Yeah, of course big tuck and me was just at the mall and I was like big tuck I'm for I'm for them to be my boy D1. He said yeah, man. He hoarded I like he was like that's hard, man He I say man, I say, you know, I don't know where he coming from He may be coming from Harvard or somewhere that when I talk, okay, he's like Man, he teach at Harvard. I didn't know that. I said, yeah, he teach at Harvard, man And even when I told LD, I don't think But what's the difference between a fellow Because I know you're a fellow at Harvard. I'm a fellow at Harvard and I'm a professor at Tufts University So being a fellow explain what a fellow is. Is a fellow a teacher there or is a fellow is like a combination of being a teacher and being like a grad school student, you know, that's how I describe it because for me I was on campus teaching in other departments like teaching in the the black history department teaching the sociology department teaching in the music department teaching in the divinity department Doing all that stuff and also doing research around the role hip-hop plays as a teaching tool in the black community Right. So I just put my album out. It's called from the hood to Harvard. That was part of my fellowship Yeah, from from the hood to Harvard, huh? Is it a lot of black stuff? Is it a lot of black stuff? Surprisingly, it's it's it's more than I thought it's more than I promise you It's more than I thought oh, it's probably still less than 10. Yeah Just like brown. Yeah. Yeah But at least at least say there but that album speaking of that album from the hood to Harvard I did that album last year as part of my fellowship. I just dropped it I haven't even put it on streaming platforms yet. Eventually I will but I put this one out To where my fans can name their own price and go on my website d1music.com and get it right the number one music dot com and I got so much love and support from my fans that when I tell y'all That I have been blown away at how many thousands and thousands and thousands of people are gone and getting it directly from me People paying up to a thousand dollars for my album I'm letting them name their own price. People paying up to a thousand dollars for my album Show them support Be real, be righteous, be relevant. All three. You hear me? All three of y'all. You hear me straight up And and I want to say this before we before we uh, yeah I do want to say this with everything that I've been having going on lately. Um The internet can be a very powerful tool for connecting with people or for spreading Positive messages when when you choose to use it for that purpose, you know, so Uh, it's been interesting. There's some people that because we're all in entertainment Y'all may or may not personally know them, but who I could tell them behind the scenes. Thank you But I want to publicly acknowledge some people, you know, uh, who I have seen they haven't been afraid to Stand next to me publicly. I missed everything that's going on number one. Walker flaka Walker flaka shout out there. He was up there with a big walker. What did he do? Walker flame. Why did he say? Yeah. Oh my gosh Walker reached out to me me and Walker got on FaceTime Start talking and building and realized like man, we like long lost brothers. You heard me like straight up like just We even kind of look alike, you know, I mean like straight up and just talking and just him really supporting what I represented What I stand for even with some of the stuff he just put on Yesterday when he saw the most recent Stuff that I had posted about with uh, with jill budden and say and waka was like nah He was like jill budden Man, you need to just bring d1 on the show and have a talk with him at this point for the culture You know what I mean? He was like because this stuff crazy like the way you talking about I mean, but I just I want to say thank you to waka for show because it's one thing to support somebody behind the scenes It's another thing to publicly. That's really gonna support them. So thank you to waka. Um Who else my brother forever for life mac Man shot out mac man. I can sit down and be mad. I love mac. That's my brother from another forever You know, I mean forever forever. What did he what did he say to your dude during this time that gave you the motivation? Yeah, he he is he's always there to where if I need to talk or if he Wants to hit me up and just let me know that you know, he got my back. He's in support of me He's always just that reassuring voice and presence in my corner, you know, I mean and he respects My journey that I'm on because I may go about some things differently than how he would go about him But he doesn't try to make me change and conform to be who he wants me to be He just wants to make sure that I'm always moving with the right purpose and the right intentions You know I'm saying ultimately even if our delivery styles may be different, you know, I love it So I love that brother. Um, love that brother with a passion I want to definitely, um Say that I have noticed that The city of new Orleans is very divided behind behind what I represent, you know, the city of new Orleans That's where I'm from, you know, uh On one hand the governor appointed me to you know to this council for the success of black men and boys I'm in all these schools doing this. I'm in the faith community doing this But when it comes to the streets, it don't matter if it's your city where you from It's a very divided consensus because some people just feel like oh once again the big three all he cloud chasing Oh, he just he just trying to uh, he just trying to make a name for himself, you know Or this type of stuff and I and I noticed that and I see that and I see some people who who choose to try to um minimize the significance of what I'm doing and cast it off as just something like that because They want to say they don't like the approach or they want to try to um Just try to make me seem like I'm uh I'm supposed to be doing stuff the way they want it done If you don't represent if you don't stand for change Then how am I ever supposed to please you because I'm in the game to change the game You're not trying to change the game. You love the way things are as is I am in the game to change the game So i'm never supposed to be on the same page as you and and be doing everything in a way that's going to please you The day i'm pleasing you is the day that i'm no longer on my god-given purpose You talk about no, you know you talk about division and um new Orleans I know shan cotton came on here when we were asking and he wasn't lying I saw he said the hardest city to make it in when he talked about of course Why haven't there been anybody come to come out of new Orleans that blows up big and stuff like that? He said because of the hate exactly everybody is pulling everybody down the division even even the level that i'm on Even the level that i've gotten to My city would either want to not acknowledge it try to minimize it or to try to say Well, nah, he only got there because he calling out these people now. It's like bro How deaf dumb and blind can you get you know? I gotta stop you. I gotta say the truth My truth is a lot of times you got you can't look at the Naysayers so much because you got people like like when I think of gd When when you think of gdp every time you do something He's gonna always step up and put it out there the way But but but he's speaking for a lot of times He's giving the people something to see right right or big salute to gd But you see what i'm saying big salute. I just thought gdp. Yeah, but he's giving the people He's shining the light on this is what we got issue with or this is what needs to be lifted up And then they shoot holes in it. I do know that there you go So do you you talk about the ones a lot a lot of yeah, yeah I'm not talking about the the jesus you gotta have somebody to put it out there the way to where see people Because here's the thing The people that follow gdp's platform when it comes to new Orleans at least is like The street streets, you know, I'm saying that's like the streets So when you see feedback on on on the stuff that gdp's It's a whole bunch of just people that ain't gonna agree with A lot of what I represent just in general they're like, oh, that's he this lame this corny It is he is he a cloud chaser just off gp. You hear me? Yeah. Yeah, so that's That's just something that I know the thing is None of y'all ain't gonna make me stop what I'm doing because I don't serve y'all I serve God. I know that sting When there's a little bitter rapper when there's a bitter comedian When there's a bitter Person in the comments. I know that sting y'all. I don't even Flex like that because I don't pry myself on oh what I got or this that of the third But I know that that poor stings You know I'm saying at the end of the day It ain't me doing nothing to y'all that is wrong or this negative or I want All of y'all to win this but I want us to win according to the word of God If we got a win according to glorifying a bunch of negativity and our city continuing to be now we got people saying Sean ain't even from my city. You heard me. Yeah, and sitting there talking about yeah in New Orleans, man I just could see how hard it is to make it from there. What y'all think that say about us, man How how bad can it get when we got other people being able to look and say that Unfortunately, we got a part of our city that prides ourself on being the murder capital prides ourself on that We we hang people up in the rafters and say yeah These people is goats from our city when you actually sit back and you'll be like dang Everybody who who we want to glorify and we want to put on this super high pedestal. What do they represent? That's real. That's what do they represent and you got people that just want to bait you You know I'm saying in in my city people that don't want bait you into something negative Oh, do you want to talk about these people? But he won't talk about rob 4 9. I love that little brother You know I'm saying I can't wait to sit back and be able to have a convo with with that brother. You know what I mean People that came and told me that rob 4 9 then walked up to them and said yeah D1 came to my high school and spoke at my high school He said I was amazed at how that dude could be so positive and be from this city Wow, why y'all trying to get me in this manner beef, you know People say oh, why why D1 on call bg out? I can't wait to talk to bg I would I would love to have opportunity to be Music I was gonna ask you about bg like Is I mean what kind of music is he doing? What is what is he? I mean? This is my message to bg brother. I love you I grew up listening to your music brother I can't wait To have an opportunity to hopefully build with you talk with you But if I got to just speak to you through this message Brother god just brought you through this long beard. I'm so happy that you home Man, just let god let god use you brother You super talented. You got a lot of eyes on you let god use you man Let god use everything you done been through and he gonna take care of you He gonna get you right where you supposed to be just let god use you man I'm here to help in any way I could and you got a lot of soldiers this down to help Brother, but let god use you don't let this industry or no other artist or any labels or any CEOs try to use you for their Agenda you heard me just let god use you man, and I love you dude. I mean that that's hard man Because we do love bg we do love even the bird man. I told you you should have went on signing cash money Yeah Because I just know that your heart and your love for god would permeate the room, you know what I mean No matter what you know what I'm saying you wasn't gonna change you gonna always love god in the midst of whatever you put in And bird man them some good dudes too They just they need a person like you around somebody who you know what I mean influential But I understood where you were coming from when you say you was a lot younger too And you know a lot of opportunities was out there and I get it but your life It's so powerful. It can change things man. You know what brother last time I was here I don't think I was in uh, I don't think I was in uh space Uh, emotionally to receive what you said. Yeah, but think about how much I've been through since the last time Now that now that with everything I done been through and what you saying that bro I fully receive everything you say Because I see that I can move mountains, bro Come on now with my faith in god and with my skill set and with my ability to communicate I see that bro. That's all and I see that and I see that I can leave with love, bro And so I want to talk to burrow man. I want to talk to bg I want to build with rive 4 9. That's right. I said I want build with leoanne. I want to do all of that stuff I want to man and at the end of the day like If I know that they got people because it ain't all about me if I know that they got people that's pouring into them There's loving on them. That's right. And that's just coming at them from that type of angle From a righteous foundation from the word of god, then it's all good. Cool We got another soldier and guards on me that's walking with you all good But if they don't I'm here for that and I'm equipped for that, bro And I didn't know that last time I came down. I could see it. I know how powerful god is It didn't even have to do with you as much as it had to do with the power of god and you believe in him So I knew he'd take you the rest of the way Yeah, you know, and I know that like I say I spoke with bird man Them those guys in a different place and they weren't when they first started You understand what I'm saying? So you got to think about that people grow You know gd all of these people are these people are put in place, man And we good these are I feel like good ground, you know, like Just the seed just need to be put in the right place I'll do the rest And then you can do no way god is the one to do everything, bro So he's big enough for the job. God's gonna use uh, he's gonna use bg watch. That's what I'm saying He's gonna use that's real. I'm really I'm really excited for that I promise you God's gonna use bg man, and I really hope that bg could see this You know, I hope that bg could just know that he got some real ones that's praying for him That I never even met him but that's praying for him the last the last orders I've been like that with to where I hadn't met them But I was praying for them before I even met him was dmx Wow That's the last orders that I felt that type of connection to to where I'm like, man God got a bigger plan for you, brother. Then you might even realize Well, yeah, I remember you talked highly about that got me and bg on the wall before he went to prison in vagus right there and uh I hopefully when I go in february I can see him again in vagus like when I seen him that february and then what is that by 2012 Yeah, that was like what it was 12. You had to be about 2011 or 2012 I know he was there and matter of fact, I seen the lady that was there doing that billionaires, uh That that clothing line. Okay, it wasn't being a boy. It was billionaire something But there was a clothing line that she represented and she I think she owned a casino or something I think I've seen her with him. Yeah, since she since he's been out, you know in vagus. So like I think I think I think a lot of times he already know what he had it for He's a lot older too, man people grow man, you know, they get out and he knows that that's the again entertainment industry That's what people want But when you talk and sit down to him I guarantee you That conversation will be heavy and different. Yeah, you would ever imagine You know I'm saying any with Gucci man, I met Gucci up in Vegas the same way They just did a song together, but all those guys been through something you can see the transition Now the one thing I do say though people don't speak. You don't know their faith You don't really know their faith, bro. That's the biggest thing. You know what I'm saying? So I can't expect them to go by what I go by I got to walk it as an example in front of you see what I'm saying and and and I go right back to that you know the fact of knowing that Some of babes Some that so, you know, you remember the babes in chapter three of Corinthian where it says they were babes they One water one planet, but God gives the increase They was comparing people to people And that's something that you got to be careful when you do that because the spirit is not the people I keep saying that you know what I'm saying. So you got these you got these people, right? That that are just vessels and we got to we got to do the right thing by Implanting in them spiritually man to try to help and walking in love in front of them, too That's what I'm saying. That's that's the whole game. That's that's that's where I'm at man um And then it's a fine line because in real time although they might spiritually be babes professionally They are boss big big That don't but this is a babe and a boss big miss perception. That's that's scary because professionally you are boss You got this huge platform But spiritually you might be a babe And you care about god there you go and you trying to figure it out But you can't you your machismoism not going to let you try to you know buy down or anything because you got an image Dump on and the only the only people who this is impacting is these Impressionable fans. That's real. You got two types of fans You got the ones that's impressionable and don't know no better and they're being influenced by the music and the messages But then you got the fans who know the music But they want to continue to consume the poison because they're addicted to the poison So the fact and that's the ones that's giving me the heart So listen so all these dudes listen bro All these dudes where are you in it don't matter what part of the world you in All these dudes is in a 40s and in a 30s and and just call themselves some hip hop fans and and and all this And that'd be the main people who got an issue with anything that i'm saying is because brother You have been consuming The poison for so long that you are now addicted to it So much so that just because I represent something different and I represent love and light and i'm talented and i'm successful That irritates you to where you have to cast me off as being a cloud chaser or you got to cast me off as just I'm doing something wrong or I broke the code by saying somebody's name. I don't follow none of y'all rules I don't follow none of y'all rules. You heard me like I don't I follow the bible So y'all rules mean nothing to me. I didn't violate nothing So these fans who thinking yeah this that and third and you got all this energy and negativity built up towards me Like man that's going in one there and out the other that's real You heard me you the one who need to look at yourself and be like, what is it that I'm pledging such of an allegiance to? You know Man, I ain't the one with the problem. That's d1 man d1's in the building man That's lack of knowledge. Did you have something else that you wanted to add because uh early I cut you off on a question Man, you gotta go listen to my music. You talking about you rock with me and you still ain't heard of my music I listen to your music. I listen to the message you be telling other people That's what I get from it. I like listen to my music get that Thanks, that's real. That's real. I did have a question It was like what a how much slack do you get from the rappers that don't that don't like the way you're going? Not the fans the rappers man All right, let me keep it a hundred uh Very little, you know, I mean we've seen it recently some stuff play out to where a certain artist, you know Who I named had different uh Comebacks and responses, but honestly I heard them too as far as actual Just your everyday rapper. I mean My brother e put me on to something I was totally unaware of of somebody Yeah, yeah, and no disrespect to that brother. That's my that's my guy man. Yeah, no disrespect to him. I just I never I never heard of him before and I never you know knew who he was so I'm a public figure. So you entitled to have an opinion on me But I don't follow the same code that you follow You feel me and when you got my character misconstrued, you heard me? So just so that brother knows I come in love brother. I come in love. I come with respect ld 300 you heard me feel straight up I follow the bible man. I follow the word of god and trying to what would he say it about me? I'm trying to Put down established Successful rappers. Okay, number one. That's where you're wrong because that's implying that I'm not a successful rapper You know, I'm definitely more than a successful rapper at this point. You might not know that but I am that you know I mean and then saying I'm trying to what put them down to What he said It was almost like I think the thing I got out of it more so was the fact that they had albums coming out Yeah, even then and in fact even their brother speaking on them You think that I care if somebody got a uh album coming out What joy do I get or what do I gain from saying I'm going to try to impact Somebody's album sales by speaking on them right before that interview I did with sway This is just so that my brother knows this because we haven't met at this point But I want him to know I come in love I come in peace, but I just want to clarify things I was supposed to do that interview with sway in august You heard me sway had a family emergency then after that my grandpa died when we rescheduled My grandpa died. You heard me? So the interview got pushed to when it did after they got pushed back twice Like that wasn't no Pre-made plan that I had in my head of like I'm about to go up there on the rival for they release this album and say this stuff No, brother. No. No, it's not that. You know what I mean? Yeah So much love and salute to him. Like I said, there's nothing wrong with saying you don't know someone but but Just because you don't know someone doesn't mean that you have to Instantly come from a place of disrespecting them. I'm not disrespecting al d 300 at all. It's all love. It's all respect so But for me to be like, oh That's I mean, that's all I could hear and then there are a few better people in New Orleans You know I'm saying a few people that's like that's there's rappers that there's they're stuck You know I'm saying and that they're not happy or we might have been Here and here at one time and then you know, they seen uh God continue to bless me and so certain people to say certain things, you know, I mean, um Just that type of stuff, man. Like that that's that's what I see But for the most part, bro I'm seeing that a lot of people are thinking right now and a lot of people are like Dang like they they thinking, you know if Jim Jones telling me at this point that he respect what I stand on You know I'm saying and and if we having like If he's seeing my heart behind what I'm saying And if that's somebody like on that type of level then All these other people that they might feel away or want to say something just just because they're trying to curry favor with people Or just because they don't understand me Cool, you're not gonna understand me if you think that I'm playing by the industry's rules You're not gonna understand me if you think that I'm playing by the street rules I am playing for god's approval and I am following god's code. That's the g code God's code. They took that out of school. They're taking that. They're taking God out of everywhere So the kids either don't know nothing about it. That's why they're acting like that Then when you come at them about what you come at them with they don't know nothing about it So when you talk to somebody it's like it's lack of knowledge They don't know about so they're gonna come at you wrong because they gonna feel like they don't want to feel like they uh They ego is getting tarnished. Good point. So that's how they look at it. Nah. Good point That's real man. Thank you for coming on the show man. How can people get a hold to you if they're trying to reach out? Yeah, all social media platforms is d1 music dee the number one music My new album from the hood to Harvard That's all right now in my website d1 music dot com all my other albums all 10 of my other albums are on the streaming platforms Just search d1 dee dash the number one The children's book man are the anti-bullying hip hop children's book david found his slingshot That's that mission vision lifestyle calm and um Congratulations, man. All your success. Thank you. Thank you, man. Thank you so much for coming on boss talk one or one We love you d1 For real. I love y'all too, man. It's been another great segment a boss talk 101 this one for the records What a boss is talking and we out