 So I would like to call to the conference will now be recorded the South Brillington City Council special meeting of Tuesday, May 25th, 2021. And I'll start with welcome and the agenda review. Are there any additions, deletions or changes in order of agenda items? Okay, seeing none. We don't ask if the public wants to make a comment at a special meeting. I think that got left off. Is there anyone from the public who wishes to comment on an item not on the agenda? Seeing none. Okay. Let's try really hard to get through this by seven because the issues have been somewhat discussed already and we had time to get additional information. So item two is discussion and possible action to approve a bid award for Alan Rhodes shared use plan and authorize the city manager to negotiate and execute a contract for construction services with the winning bidder Cortland construction. So do we have a little report? I mean, you sent us stuff. Do we do people want it? We had a, we did get a memo from the bike and ped committee. I mean, I didn't have any issues with it. I know Tim, you had some and Tom was kind of agreeing with the getting rid of, I guess, the turning part, but were your questions or concerns answered? Tom, do you want to speak? So the one question I have and I'm not the justice here and I definitely would love to hear from two former DRB chairs is is the concern that the right hand turning lane going away is that will that be considered in future applications for additional housing on Spear Street? Like for example, the long property would a restriction in the right hand turning lane be something that would negatively impact developers that are trying to meet the much needed housing demand along Spear Street in that area? Does that question make any sense, Justin? Yeah, it does. If I may, the with South Village, which I think represents the in the last 20 years and probably for the going forward for a while, certainly the largest housing development on Spear Street. There will probably be a few long type, a few dozen units here or there. But in general, the intersection capacity being this the grade C as indicated in the memo is really indicative of a location that has adequate capacity going forward to handle additional development. And it's never it's probably never such a nice edge, Tom, that the presence or the absence of a right turn lane, for example, would make or break an application. Again, in terms of the infrastructure's ability to handle new development, that right turn lane and at one at any one discreet intersection is such a small component of kind of the larger transportation review. I don't think we're jeopardizing ourselves from any plan future development that I'm aware of in the area. However, if at some future point in time, again, because this plan doesn't exist within the current Spear Street right of life, there would be the opportunity to add to the intersection for any for any purpose, be it the right turn lane in the future or or anything else we might want to do with that space. Okay, is that is that adequate time. It is and I just I always respect greatly Tim and Matt's experience on the DRV you've seen projects and experience and I'd love to hear your thoughts on the right hand turning lane regarding how that might factor into housing developments along Spear Street and the judgment before the DRV board and previous experience. Matt, do you want to comment? Well, in fact, for development just south of their part of our village, but just south of that intersection, we in fact ruled that after a new traffic study that there wasn't the traffic to warrant a I guess it was a left turn intersection it or Justin probably knows better than I do could recall better than I do but so yeah, I would agree with Justin's assessment and you know I was also one of the ones that what question whether we should give up a right turn lane now we have to reviewing the map understanding much better now how that connections going to be made realizing that we do have the ability should should we never need it back to reclaim that rebuild that I'm sure a developer wish to develop some other parcel near there. I'm comfortable going ahead with the contract I don't know how Tim feels but I apologize for the delay but I think those questions had to be I wanted to get a full vetting of those questions and see it and I appreciate Justin and Ashley forwarding that so we could look at more further review it. Tim, do you have any additional questions or are you set? Yeah, I'm set I'm going to drop my objections. Okay. So are we ready to Yes, I will move. I will move to approve the bid award for Alan Road shared use path and authorize the city manager to negotiate and execute a contract for construction services with the winning bidder which is Cortland construction. All right. Is there a second? Second second. Okay, it's been moved and seconded. Is there any further discussion? If not all in favor signify by saying aye. All right. Okay, anyone oppose? So the motion carries five zero. Okay, moving along to item three. This is the resolution that we put off for two weeks regarding personal protection equipment. In city on buildings and in places of public access within the city of South Burlington. What we had before us what people wanted to consider was whether we should join the governor and the state of Vermont and lots of other communities, not all in eliminating that requirement. So what are your, is there any comments or additional information, Tim? I just want to hear from Kevin about city hall and city property or city, you know, the library, what his opinion is for that? I'm ready to repeal it for all the commercial entities, but I want to hear his input about the city properties. We are too, Tim. We talked about it today. Our HR team, Tom and I, and we're ready to do the same. That's where the science is leading right now. And so we're willing to remove that requirement. If you so choose for all city buildings. Do you want to do something? Go ahead. I mean, are schools considered city buildings or is that school board city building? I think the reality is that the managers, the owners of a property will still have the ability on their own to require people to wear masks and social distance if they choose. So if the school district chooses to continue to require masks, they can certainly do that. Or if any hotel or restaurant or provider can choose to do that. That's exactly right. I attended a meeting with secretary Curley, the agency of commerce, and there's no restrictions on businesses or having reporting restrictions in place that require masks. You could say no shirts, no shoes, no masks, no service. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. I think that's a good point. As you know, walking and traveling through South Burlington this past weekend, you know, some have already moved to the CDC guidelines on their windows, even though we haven't rescinded. So I think it's time that we rescind the mask mandate. Okay. Tim. Oh, I. So do all we have to do is just make a motion to repeal our current PPE mandate. Okay. Okay. So I moved that we rescind. The resolution about. Second, but I have a few comments to make. Now that you can. We love hearing the sports going on there behind you, but I'm just. It's hard for me to focus. I just wanted to say that. There are still some people who have not been given the opportunity to vaccinate themselves. And that is children below the age of 12. I have one child. And so I want it to be very clear. That there will still be people who will need to wear masks. And that is children below the age of 12. And all people who are not vaccinated. Those children still remain vulnerable. And as we are responsible for all our residents. I want that to be made clear. I am willing to vote to rescind this. But that does not mean that we are all in the clear. That means that we still must remain responsible. And that we must remain thoughtful. And this falls on individuals. Who are not vaccinated. Who hopefully will be vaccinated very soon. And on their parents or guardians. In the case of minors. There are also individuals who refuse to get vaccinated. They will not be protected. They can choose not to wear a mask. And as we know, and I think it's important for us to, as we follow the CDC guidelines to also. Reiterate what the CDC is saying. That becoming sick. With COVID. Is worse than becoming vaccinated. And that is what I want to say. That being sick. With COVID. Is worse than becoming vaccinated. If you get sick with COVID, you potentially have long term. Part issues. Long issues. And major organ issues. So this is not to say we're all in the clear. But this is to say that we. Respect people. And that we are value their judgment. And that we hope that everyone will continue to care for one. And we care for one another by taking care of ourselves, which is vaccination. Thank you. Okay. I agree. Are you, Tim? Just a quick. Adder to that is that, you know, every individual should play defense. Towards the end of this pandemic. And it's not over yet. So. If for any reason, you feel uncomfortable. In an indoor location. Or an outdoor location where you think the density of people is too high. Regardless of whether you're vaccinated or not. You should wear your mask. Anybody who wants to wear their mask should feel comfortable wearing their masks. I don't think anybody. Should feel. Slighted for wearing a mask in public if they, if they want to. And I personally will be wearing my mask indoors in certain situations when I feel like. There are too many people around me and I just don't know. So. Especially if you have a cold. Yeah. And I, and right now allergies pollen, right? So we're finding out that the mask has other benefits. So. So I agree with Megan. I just, but I, I think we need to. Just repeal it so that our businesses aren't dealing with ambiguities and irate customers who expect the CDC to be honored in the business. And then the employees are tasked with trying to. You know, reconcile those two situations. And then that's unfortunate. Okay. So. So. Yes. Is there any further discussion? Okay. All in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Okay. The motion carries five zero. We got a memo from Tom Hubbard. So I will move to approve the disbursements. Second. We'll get a motion and a second. Is there any discussion? Okay. All in favor then signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. Aye. Okay. That's a five zero. And lastly, we also as a city manager manager to execute the. Just another item is the plan of the association. It's a plan for the plan to fund the design and construction of the phase one spear street bike and head improvement project. Because I recall this is one of the projects that the bike and to do the initial planning, correct? So it's designing construction. OK, Ashley, do you want to make a comment? I just was going to say it's for the design and construction. So the maximum war was for 300,000. And we'll be starting the design and moving into construction, so both of those. OK, great. Any questions, discussion? Tim. How many trees have to come down, Ashley? Do we have a design yet? We don't. I'll know more once we start looking into the layout and conceptuals, so. OK, thanks. Looks like Bob Britt might want to make a comment. Bob, did you want to say something? You had your little layup. Thank you. OK. So are you ready for the vote? OK, I need a motion to authorize this. So moved. In a second. And it's moved and seconded. Are you ready for the vote? OK, all in favor of authorizing the city manager to execute the whole thing. Say hi. Hi. Hi. Hi. Post. OK, that carries five zero. That does it for our agenda. And I don't believe there were any other items that were added. Tom has his hand up. Oh, I'm sorry. Yes, Tom. It's very likely the governor is going to eliminate or raise all remaining restrictions on Memorial Day. Do you think our June meeting we want to be back in person? I just want to get a feel so I can plan accordingly. I sure would like to be back in person in June. And if not meeting at least the second, I'm comfortable. I'll be vaccinated, fully vaccinated Monday or June 1st for sure. What I would say, though, is can we still let people dial in? Because this has worked quite well for some people. Yeah, we're working on that right now. Megan O'Connor, the Planning Commission and DRB, use this device, this kind of eye thing that will duplicate a computer. So you all could be on camera as a group and be heard as a group and others to be dialing in remotely. And will we get to see them on the screen to their left? Yeah, I think that's how that works. I think it has both way. I know that DRB uses it sometimes. Matt, do you recall how that works in a long time? Yes, we used it, but we just used it for a commissioner or a board member that stated it. I'm not sure how it works with the public, but I'm sure it can. I just don't know how. Yeah, could we just project the go-to meeting that we're all seeing here on our screens on the wall there to the left of us? Our tech folks are working on this. If you tell me that you want to do this for the June 7th meeting, I'll get them moving quickly on it and get a report back to you as to whether or not it's feasible. I think it is hold that up to the confirmation. Tom? Partly where my question is coming from. Kevin, when are you done? Because I will not be in Vermont for the late June meeting and the early July meeting. If we want to send off in person, the early June meeting is the only time that I'll be here in the state. But when do you wrap up, Kevin, and how do I make sure I celebrate and to recognize all the different work from the city of South Burlington before I head out? Thank you, Tom. That's kind. Tom and I are done at 5 p.m. on Wednesday, the 30th of June. So they're like, you know. And if the phone rings, and if the phone rings at 4.59. If the phone rings at 4.59 mega, I'm taking that call. Okay. Shortly thereafter, we'll begin. Thomas, we'll figure that out. But if the goal is to try it out on the 7th, that would be great. And definitely on the, whatever is the next one, the 21st or something. That would be great. Those two will have to be remote. So if I want to participate, or if you want me to participate, I'll have to be dialing in or zooming in on the late June. Okay. Alrighty. Well, we can't change the calendar. But thank you. And if other people have vacation times they know about, Tom had told me about his, please let me know as well. So we can try not to have a major issue when you're away. But, okay. So if there's no other business, Tim? Yeah. Kevin, can you mail out maps to all of us about where the city hall is? We can find it again, cause I've forgotten. I'll arrange it so that Google knows, so you can Google map it. Okay. Cool, thanks. Oh, and Thomas, I want to remind you, I sent a confidential email to the council and I would like you to respond. So please look for that. You got it about a week ago. I was in the throes of the final legislature. So I'm not surprised that you didn't respond, but Megan was the only one who did. And I need to know some things. Okay. Well, I guess we're a motion to adjourn. So moved. And seconded and all in favor signify by saying aye. Aye. Aye. The case memorial weekend. I'm heading out to outlasts to go RVing with all my girls at Lake Powell. So I'm gonna have fun. Have a long from the other paper wants us to have a longer meeting. So you guys want to drag this out some more? And I got a couple of resolutions here. We can just try it. Okay. Okay. Bye. Thanks. Good night, everybody. Good night. This conference is no longer being recorded.