 All right. Hey, welcome to Mac geek out for today's opening quick tip It comes from Eric DSA in our discord channel, and he says not sure if this is new to iPad OS 16 Eric it is but if you slide up or swipe from the lower left corner of your iPad towards the upper right corner It takes a screenshot Amazing, I love it. Thank you for that more tips like that plus your questions answered today on Mac geek out 953 for Monday October 31st. Happy Halloween 2022 Greetings folks and welcome to Mac geek out the show where you send in your tips like that your questions your cool stuff found We answer your questions. We share your tips. We share your cool stuff found We share some cool stuff found of our own the goal being we put it together into an agenda And then the goal is for each of us you me John Pete when he's here for all of us to learn at least Five new things every single time we get together Sponsors for this episode include coda dot I o slash MGG go there sign up for free It's this cool tool that brings everything together into one document for all your projects It's shareable. We'll talk more about that a little bit later and Hello fresh at hello fresh comm slash MGG 65 where you can use code MGG 65 to save 65% off plus free shipping Hello fresh is amazing. We'll talk more about that in detail later to for now here in getting chillier Durham, New Hampshire. I'm Dave Hamilton And here in the Fairfield, Connecticut. This is John F. Braun. How goes it? Mr. John F. Braun Yeah, staying warm staying alive Sorry couldn't resist it. So yeah, it's just one of those days. I guess I don't know where Pete is today He's he's out flying I guess so, you know, he's got to fly the airplane sometime. So Shall we anything to should we just dive into the quick tips John? All right, go it's time for Dave. So we got one from Dave not me who says not him I Recently had a need to merge a number of PDF files into a single PDF file while I know I could use preview to merge PDF files It's a manual process of dragging the thumbnails from one file to the other and I was looking for an automated solution My Google foo failed me, but I stumbled across the solution myself by checking out the right click options in the finder and thought I'd send this in here's how to do it In the finder select all the PDF files that you want to merge Then right click and select quick actions Create PDF The resulting PDF file will be created with a version of the name of the first file The create PDF command can also be used to create a PDF file from other types of files like Png files once I knew about this I found the then I found the Apple support page that explained how to use this feature That's I never thought of using actions that way that like I like what bothers me is that it's hidden is that if you Right-click you'll see quick actions, and then you'll see a few of them Okay, when you right-click, but you actually have to click on quick actions To reveal this create PDF thing. It doesn't show up with just a simple right-click So I found that kind of annoying. Yeah, I wonder I wonder why they hide it like that. I mean it like Yeah, yeah, yeah, well, I guess it's something you want to advertise to people Yeah, although I guess if Apple advertised everything I don't know. I mean it there is there is like, you know Information blindness right you present too many options and people will choose none of them. So I don't know. Yeah, nice fine Dave good stuff all right Now we have not Dave, but David still not me Who says I've been struggling to upload photos from my iPad Pro And an external drive for ages and for whatever reason the photos app on the iPad won't allow this Even though I can see the drive and the photos in the files app on iPad OS However in the new iCloud beta photos app in Safari There is an upload link at the bottom I clicked that and was able to select the files from my external drive and it works It even detects duplicates while it's uploading with my existing library. Yay Hopefully he says this is a prelude to coming features in the photos app on the iPad Pro Yeah, that is kind of weird that it like there's that disconnect and I suppose this is this is sort of a Common theme with iPad OS is that the iPad can do a lot, right? But you are limited by the barriers that Apple I was going to say Apple puts up or that Apple doesn't take down Which I think is what's sort of happening in this case everything sort of sandboxed except those things that aren't and This is one of those things that still aren't sand, but you know unsanboxed and so Yeah, it's just but it's a weird thing and this is where that frustration of sort of using the iPad in Lou of a laptop comes in is things like this where it's like I can see it if you can see it Why can't you just do the thing that would make sense to do? But it's just it has to be built in as opposed to built out and that's sort of the difference between the iPad and the Mac I guess I don't know or maybe I'm making it super confusing, but yeah, I like that idea of using iCloud The iCloud photos, you know web app in Safari to do it. That's smart. Nice. Fine. Nice workaround. Nice hack, man I like it That is good. All right, you want to take us to Neil. Yeah See Neil says on a recent episode Pilate Pete gave quick tip for getting to the red flashlight from the control panel on Apple watch By swiping the flashlight from the right in order preserve night vision The problem with this approach is that before getting to the red flashlight the white flashlight comes on first thing Very quickly interfere with night vision. Yes An alternative approach that avoids this problem is to put the watch in theater mode The two mask icon on the control panel or control center during the night in this mode the flashlight by default starts out red That's huh and having a shiny new Apple watch 8 Dave I can verify that this indeed works Fascinating, huh? All right. I that's that I it makes sense. I don't know why I Mean again, it's you know I wish there was a way to say please default the flashlight to you know, whatever I want the one thing We didn't mention last week is that you can strobe the flashlight to there's three options on the watch, right? There's there's just the white light. There's the red light as we've mentioned and then in the middle is strobing so I don't Yeah, and I found that mode and it Yeah, it gives you like an incredibly Bright blinking white, which is almost like the opposite of the red is like don't choose that Yeah, don't you well annoy people or have people find you like, you know I always kind of assumed that that strobing was was to make yourself seen And and there might be scenarios where that's super important. So yeah Fun fun. I like these tips. All right one last one is From listener Greg Who says? Let's say I'm trying to make sure You know make I'm reading the right thing. Yeah, he says I just bought an iPhone 14 Pro Max Deep Purple 1 terabyte. Great. It's a nice upgrade he says Regarding battery life on the 14 Pro and Pro Max many reviews on YouTube talk about how fast the battery drains in their testing while spending the day with the iPhone 14 Pro series I saw the YouTube channel Max Tex iPhone 14 Pro Max review And he said he thinks the big reason is because of auto brightness as the screen can go up to 2000 nits but only when auto brightness is enabled He said that he made a shortcut to get auto bright get to the auto brightness settings faster So he can toggle it off to save battery power or to get to it faster when he may need the extra brightness when say being Outside he didn't say how he made the shortcut, but good news Greg from LA Figured it out by using some Google food to find the URL to open that setting much faster Because it's kind of buried inside the settings app on the phone making this shortcut He says I figured it out on my own by using search shortcuts to find what I wanted he attached a screenshot That showed this shortcut and indeed he did but really it's it's very simple You just have it launch a URL in In the shortcuts app and the URL is is you know this prefs root accessibility path display auto brightness thing It makes a lot of sense when you see it so good news You get to see it folks It is in our show notes at mac geek app.com not only do you get to see it But you can just copy it right from there and paste it into your shortcut So you don't have to worry about typing and getting things exactly right because you do need to get things exactly right So we will do that and we will put that in the show notes, but yeah good fun stuff, huh John? 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I have xfinity cable which offers 600 megabits down It's connected to a tp link deco in chicago bungalow with lathe and plaster walls And he says my cable modem is a netgear nighthawk cm 1200. Okay, great All good except the lathe and plaster thing. We'll come back to that It says Well because lathe and plaster makes a faraday cage because the way that lathe and plaster works Generally as I understand it is you put like a metal mesh up and then you slather the stuff and it sort of hangs and and and goops onto that and that of course Makes a faraday the metal mesh makes a faraday cage, which is not the best for wi-fi unless you want to contain it All right. Anyway, uh, he says as might not be a surprise based on our little interjection tangent there The best speed I have seen With a speed test is 120 megabits per second, which is acceptable, but not what I'm paying for I had a technician come out and of course the connection was adequate at the time The tech told me that he requested a line check which would happen within a week without notifying me yesterday Xfinity emailed me that they just boosted us to 800 down for no extra charge I waited until I went to bed to restart the modem because that's what you have to do to get the new profile to get the better speeds And uh, he says of course the speed is bad again. I had to restart the modem several times to get decent speeds And uh, he shared some speed tests with us and so I'm gonna I'm gonna share these Here too, so the deco which is the the mesh router And system that he's using does its own speed test internal to it And he says those he with his new 800 megabit down is getting 743 down But then when he tests from his Mac, I'm assuming to fast.com. He's getting 79 down from uklu speed test. He's getting 130 down Clean my max test is getting somewhere between 17 and 70 down and So he's not getting the speed he's paying for Or is he right john? because I think this is one of those Weakest link in the chain scenarios, right? I you know I His internet connection is certainly involved in these speed tests, but so is his wi-fi And if you just want to test your internet connection You have to do it with ethernet because you have to take the other factors out and in that particular um You know dwelling wi-fi is going to be a a huge factor You're rare rarely have I seen wi-fi speeds Beat about 500 megabits per second. I mean I like I've certainly tested on wi-fi 6 up to um I've gotten like 900 but it's perfect scenario like you know I create my own little bubble and I test it and it's like oh, yeah, that's amazing But realistically like in the house and stuff if I see 450 that's freaking amazing, but I'm not in a house with lathe and plaster I'm also not in a house that has neighbors right on top of it with other competing congesting wi-fi networks, so You have to test separately. I'm what do you have thoughts on this john? um fortunately the euro Does a test every day and every now and then I'll look at that. So one thing. Yes. I agree with you is that you got to test it using ethernet Uh, the results that I get around the house with with my current uh first gen euro. Um, I usually get about 150 Okay, I'm paying for 200 so I'm okay with that It is it is the 150 over ethernet or over wi-fi. Oh, no, I the 150 is uh with wi-fi Okay, if I do it from the computer Or if I look at the uh the speed test that the euro does every day, it's like yep, you got yours You're getting 200 down 35 up. Great. Yeah, okay. So you get it. Yeah so you're you're isolation testing this and and and and that's an easy way to do it if you know what your speeds are Over an ethernet connection. Then you can you can do a speed test You know from your wi-fi and and sort of guess the difference what you won't see in many scenarios unless you have a super fast upstream connection is that you probably when you're testing your over wi-fi In that scenario the upstream from your internet provider is probably the limiting factor because your upstream In your wi-fi like amongst your land is probably much faster than that 35 megabits per second, right? I mean, I'm assuming you're hitting that every time when you test over wi-fi Yeah If you want to test Just your local network speeds I The way I do it is I use an app Well a terminal command that you can install with homebrew called iperf 3 iperf 3 And that works well We put up an article at mac observer years and years ago But it is still Still relevant. I'm looking for yeah, there it is. Yeah, jim tannis put it up for us mg g jim as as many of us know him and So I will put a link to that it it's from 2015 But I took a look at it the other day and like it's still the same command You brew install iperf 3 and then and then you set up one mac as an iperf server And another mac is the iperf client and you can send data in both directions and and get your test done At my house john because I because i'm a nerd And I'd like to do These tests regularly I found a I think it's a docker package or a docker container That runs iperf 3 as a server on my disk station full time So I can do it locally On my network no matter what I don't have to like set up the server each time on a computer But also if I poke the right hole in my router and I know the secret port it from which I've poked the hole I can do iperf test from remote and I think I've even had you do some right? I think I think years ago, so I know i'm a nerd. Yeah, just how it goes so Yeah, yeah, you want to you want to isolation test that so hopefully I mean and the problem with lathe and plaster is exactly as we said you might just need more mesh points I remember helping brian chaffin when He first got I think it was a linksis vellop set up In his, you know san jose apartment, which was lathe and plaster And he you know he got three vellops or something and this is a relative it was a one bedroom apartment it wasn't some you know Big sprawling you know palatial estate or anything But three vellops wasn't enough. I think he wound up needing four or maybe even five And and he basically did it with line of sight So he set you know the the one that has to be wherever the the you know the cable modem was okay fine And then everything else was line of sight from that So you know if he needed to go around a corner to get to the other room It was like all right We'll put one here so that you can shoot through the doorway and then one You know down in the other corner of the room and and it became this sort of sprawling thing But it worked and it it worked out. All right Once he did that and I and his speeds doubled so david that might be the answer for you is Just you know You might have just have to add more mesh points and experiment with the ones that you have You know take them and consolidate them so that you can test some of this line of sight stuff and see how it does In theory if you're in the room with your router You should be getting better speeds than you're getting when trying to go through walls If you're not Then that means that wi-fi congestion from your neighbors presumably Is a contributing factor here and that's a tough thing to get around so Yeah Mm-hmm. I don't know another thing you may want to try is to do a site survey to see if your Uh wi-fi placement is good or not Okay Uh, and what would you use to do that? Well the the thing that I've used in the past. I haven't run in a while I probably should Um that spot And is that still updated? I know I I okay. Yeah, I haven't I haven't used that in a long time, but Um, yeah, tell people how that spot works. That's yeah, that's a great thing um basically what you so it does what's known as a site survey and Basically what you do is you give it a map of your place Uh, and that was the hardest part is is drawing a map of my place But I did that you know broke out the ruler and all that and then once you do that you then run this program um You run that spot and it will basically sample the signal strength at key points or wherever you decide to take a A sample it will then Uh show you the signal strength of all the uh From one point on the map. It'll show you the signal strength of all of the Access points that it can see So that can help you determine Uh If your placement is correct that it also has just the a general Uh scanner wi-fi scanner like okay other programs. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah, huh. Yeah All right, that's good. So I'm I as you were saying that And and highlighting sort of the major pain point of doing a site survey Which is you've got to like manually draw your own map in there Could you Import a picture if you already had a map drawn Like would it let you import a jpeg and then and then just sort of overlay that I suppose. Yeah, okay So I have an idea because last week. I think it was last week that last week of the week before I mentioned that ufi x8 vacuum The robot vacuum that now like builds Maps in a very right so take a screenshot of that And import that into net spot I'm just getting the name right as your map and now you've got a much But at least you've got a starting point. It might not I mean, it's going to be pretty accurate Um, I don't know that that's kind of that's my thought process on this Always trying to make life easier with nerd tools. So uh kiwi grams says Uh in our chat at live dot mac keek up.com which really just points to our discord He says a net spot is that will import maps and is now also better than i-stumbler just for normal single Signal monitoring interesting. Oh, that's good to know I I gave up on i-stumbler a while ago and I I think it's end of life or something like I Yeah, I don't I mean, I don't know I haven't used i-stumbler in years. I've been using wi-fi explorer as my as my uh My you know my wi-fi mapper but good to know that net spot will do it too So I'll put a link to wi-fi what do you use for your your mapping? Uh by stumbler Okay, I but I like does it does it still work though? Uh Last I ran it, but it may not under ventura. So yeah, I I don't I think there's some Yeah, yeah, so but wi-fi explorer has been great That um, it's part of set app if uh, if you have that so you've already got it Uh, and then we have a thread in fact in our um In our in our discord called called I stumbler replacements Uh, and I'll put a link to that in the show notes too. So you can just find that direct there But someone else recommended Derek in our our chat recommended air radar From coin go software. Yeah, so I had I had forgotten about coin go software Um, but uh, but he says it works great. And so We've got that too. I will put that in the show notes. So lots of options out there folks good stuff All right, hopefully that helps david I know it's like probably not the answer you were looking for but it's the answer you need No, I don't know. It's hopefully it's helpful You want to take us to george Yes, george has a travel tip. All right Now that we're traveling again or at least some of us are Yep, um, I'm just back from japan and listening to the discussion about traveling light episode 541 Prompts me to share this I spent time in japan usually once a year the year This year in packing to go I added the apple extension cord to my macbook power block to give me more flexibility Japan is a two prong plug. So I didn't need an adapter. Neat Of course when I got there, I realized that the power black extension cord was three prong. Oops Luckily, I hadn't left the power Uh, the power blocks slide on two prong head at home, but it was a good reminder not to travel too light Hmm Sounds like someone uh across the street from you is traveling in reverse Uh a lot today. Oh, yeah. Yeah, they're they're having a blast over there It's fun. It's like, you know, you're you're uh the noise gate that I have on you or the the Expander that I have on you cuts it out when you're not talking, which is great But then you start talking and we hear this like bleeding in it's like, okay. Oh, yeah, that's fine I mean, it's fine. It is what it is. Let's be we live in a real world Yeah, I mean, I uh I can't tell them to stop No, I mean you could I could yeah, it would waste your time and annoy the pig. That's right. Yeah, yeah, yeah Wait, there's no I mean the thing is they know Quiet hours in my neighborhood. So our town like many have quiet hours and they know That they can't get started until 7 a.m Yeah, so 7 a.m. They start right up. So that just means you and I need to record it like 5 a.m. That'll be fine Sure, no, thanks. Yeah same Uh All right, so yeah, but that that is a good one because I ran into something similar Dave when when you and I did our last travel Um, I quickly grabbed a cable um to charge my uh My macbook. Yeah I wasn't paying attention and I grabbed a usb-c to lightning cable Um, that doesn't charge a macbook pro No, but firstly you and I found that the the 7 11 on the corner did have a usb-c to usb-c cable So that was really nice of them Yeah, it was it was a it was an experience going into the the 7 11 on the corner but thankfully they did have that one cable and uh, and Yeah, you always usb-c to usb-c got you rolling so Fascinating. Yeah. Yeah. So yeah, it's always it's worth Researching wherever you're traveling, but I would say it's even It's it's even traveling in the us George's tip is a good one to just make sure you have um a two the ability to plug into a two prong outlet Because not every outlet in a hotel room or you know, the lamp by the bed Might have an outlet on it. That's only a two prong thing. So I would I would definitely Be ready for that eventuality When traveling so and most of the things that we're plugging in don't need ground anyway Uh, and I would venture to guess that most of the grounds in hotels probably don't work anyway, so Yep, fun stuff. All right. Um, we got one from terry, right john Yeah, this was an interesting adventure. Uh, so terry says I'm going on a european trip and in preparation I took a photo of the credit cards. I'm taking my license and my passport to leave With my husband. I was listening to episode 9 49 and did turn off control center to make my phone more secure on this trip In tapping around on the lock screen Uh to see what other trouble someone could find I found that when I swiped to the camera I or anyone with my phone can get to my photos And there was a photo of my credit card's license and passport. Whoops um What I did of course was to print out the photos and delete them from the phone app But is there a way to secure my photos from mischievous peeps to keep people from getting to photos from the lock screen Uh as a side note. I was driving my Previous when you mentioned resetting the Subaru head By holding down the volume key. So I tried it on the toyota And it worked. Okay. Oh, that's good to know. So yeah, that was when I was talking about carplay um And in needing to reset the head unit in the car to like get carplay to work Um in the Subaru you hold down the volume button until you see it reset and evidently That is also true of toyota. So thanks for that bonus tip terry, but yeah, let's let's circle back um So, yeah, that that was a good one and I tried it too and it's like, yeah, sure enough, you know tap on that and I I could see my photos So I'm like, hmm. This is a problem or is it Dave? Yeah, okay. Yeah, it's the workaround. Yeah Well, there is a way to disable the camera That I found um, so it's settings screen time content and privacy restrictions allowed apps and disabled camera And sure enough doing that Uh disabled the camera on the lock screen. So I thought that was the solution, but I really don't think it is Okay, um Yeah, because that that disables the camera entirely, right? You just can't use the camera anymore. Okay. Yeah, so So This will accomplish your goal Yeah, right. Yeah, I found yeah when I did that Um, it removed the camera app from my dock and I'm like, oh great. Now what? Yeah. Yeah, your phone just came up So I had to search for the camera app and restore it to my desktop to get a Uh permanent access but then terry followed up with an amazing uh fact okay, um So, uh, I found an interesting answer to my question when I was out to dinner with friend I handed her my phone and told her to swipe to the camera and look at my pictures when she did this She could not see the pictures And I replicated this on her phone So the phone must be scanning my face and allowing only me to see the pictures It ends up not being a security flaw at all. It's a quote feature Interesting So that's neat Okay, so am I verifying the problem? It worked for me because it was it was my so when you and I get together next We'll we'll have to uh try this. I'm sure it works the way that terry said. Yeah, and then it must be Yeah, you doing a face id um To permit access to that Got it Got it. All right. That makes sense. Yeah. Yeah, that makes sense huh Okay, I like it. This is good stuff. 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You know, I can edit messages and do all of those things So by and large ventura has been fantastic It's you know, almost a non-event and and you get you know, sort of feature parity with some things Oh and by the way One really nice part about ventura being out is that Now continuity camera is a thing that's the thing where you can use your iphone to As your webcam like native to mac os And it also has that desk view thing that uses like the edge of the camera and lots of math to to do magic And show your desk But because that's out there is now amazon is full and etsy are full of cottage industry mounts for your continuity camera because the belkin one quite frankly looks stupid to me And I'll the reason is it doesn't have any adjustments It just like it's it's fixed in place So if you wanted to like be able to grab your phone and angle it or something or even like a regular webcam You know, it has the little like folding feet kind of thing that lets you set the angle You don't get to do any of that. It's just whatever the angle of your screen is That's your webcam angle and I get that that's also the case for your built-in webcam But that's one of the frustrations with the built-in webcam. Anyway, you can search on amazon and just find all kinds of I've ordered a bunch and once I find one. I'll I'll that I like or more than what I like that I'll then I'll send I'll share the links, but uh, but yeah, so ventures I don't know. What do you think John before we get into system settings here? like just like thoughts on you know a week plus with ventura Like just integrated into our lives. How has it been for you? Um Not too traumatic. I mean, you know, I like the um, you know, the new windowing center stage, right? uh stage manager or stage manager center stage is the thing. No, no, this is apple's fault There's stage Sorry stage manager is the thing that center stage is the thing that um, lets you That like focuses the camera just on your face even if you move around that that's what that is But so tell me about stage manager because I haven't Been able to it's a wrap my head around this. How you you like it, huh? um it It basically yeah, so so it throws windows um Of all the active apps on the left hand of the screen and it takes up a little real estate but when I want to switch to another app it's I'd like it because it gives you some context and that you can You can see what's happening in the app You know, I'll I'll be at a much smaller version But that's kind of neat too because you can see, you know, if some somebody wants attention or if something's moving If you have a video rolling or something like that um So I'd like I like it for that Huh and which um, which devices which max are you using stage manager on? um Just my macbook pro because I have not yet upgraded this machine nor do I think I want to Yeah, this I I'm I'm waiting for a little bit before I update the the podcasting machine here too That's just normal for for us a caution normal normal normal conservative Yeah, I mean it's annoying now because now it's pestering me with the badge on the uh Of course Uh system preferences and I can't figure out how to get rid of it We actually had a question about that and I don't know how to get rid of it. Wait a minute though Mine is not pestering me with that badge Uh, have you updated to monterey 12 6 1 on that machine that may be what the badge is about It could be about ventura. Don't get me wrong. I I but I'm just uh, this is on 12 6 That's why you have a badge. So you need to do the 12 6 1 update on that. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah Uh, which is good like, you know, and it's confusing because when you go in there The ventura gets top billing and then if you like look down you can see ah, there's 12 other updates are available Let's see. Okay macos monterey 12 6 1 Okay, and safari a new version of safari. Correct. Yeah, you get the new safari Uh, and let me make sure I get the version number right you get safari 16.1 On your monterey mac. So which is cool Okay, so maybe maybe I will do that update Do that one. Yeah, but let's let's hold off on the on ventura for our studio machines for a little bit I think it'd probably be okay for you Because your audio device just uses the default mac os drivers. Mine does not so I kind of need to wait for that Let's talk about system preferences. I have I have questions. I have rants I am not happy I went into networking. Well, I went into system settings on not system preferences system settings on ventura And I noticed a couple of things john the first thing that I noticed is that There is both a wi-fi and a network preference Item they're not even preference pains anymore, but I'm gonna call them preference pains Why is there both wi-fi and network because if I go into network, I can see wi-fi in there But if I go into wi-fi all I can see is wi-fi What madness is this? Who's fault is this? Why do you who puts things in two places? That's terrible user interface design I mean, I know Synology does it a bunch in dsm and used to it. I I will adapt but Wtf. I mean This is redonkulous I don't know. I I don't I don't get it. I don't get it. I don't get it. I'm not I'm not happy about it Uh, yeah, as brymer row points out in our chat at live dot mac geek up.com That's what microsoft likes to do. This is not apple Steve would not be happy about this would not have been permitted. He wouldn't let this happen Stupid I don't mind the new paradigm The implementation of the new paradigm is what I mind. It's stupid Okay Um, well, maybe nick has some advice that could help you dave. Sure Okay, ready. I'm ready for my therapy man. Yeah nick help Um, so nick says in episode 952 you mentioned the new system settings and venture it does take some getting used to But just like in ios the search box is your friend Type in whatever setter you're looking for and the search results will show you the path to get there so Okay, and and well, he also says Yeah, so I noticed something as well I agree with you about the berry time machine settings. I checked the box to show it in the menu bar so I can get to it easily Um But here's something else dave about time machine Guess what they did If you click on the options button So it's not obvious. Yes. I I'm not sure about this new layout either But if you if you go to time machine and then click on options There's a backup frequency setting Oh Um, which they never had before. Um The thing is I also use time machine editor and that still works, but um You know if you if you want to dial it down because the thing is uh Time machine typically runs every hour And that may be a bit much Yeah Yeah, um, so now I think they have it where you can do an hour A day a week But but anyways you you can set the frequency to something other than once every hour Yeah, let me uh, I I have screen shared to my machine downstairs just so we can Um, so we can do this. So yeah, you can set the backup frequency, right? You're right manually every hour every day or every week I love that that, you know, like on my laptop every week is more than enough Uh, I've been having trouble getting time machine to run consistently on my laptop I don't know what that's about. I got to dig into that but uh, but I do like the idea of it only running once a week Okay, all right. So thanks that there there is see I'm excited about some of these changes. That's good I'm about to go back down the deep dark hole here though. Uh Because I I there's there's things I don't understand The other day I wasn't sure if my mac was back to putting itself to sleep It's not that didn't change but there were some Symptoms that I saw that I thought oh, well maybe the installation of ventura Reset the fact that I had my mac set to stay awake all the time because of all those thunderbolt problems I'm gonna test it to see if those thunderbolt problems are gone Uh, you know, the ones where if it goes to sleep it wakes up It doesn't quite see the thunderbolt devices the right way and you got to like unplug and reset and hold your mouth Just right it was simpler to just let my mac stay awake all the time So I went in where to energy saver. Is that where you would go John to find this setting? Probably sure because you're a reasonable human. You're not insane Um, so, you know, that's where you would go. Well energy saver. John has uh on my machine has three options Put hard disks to sleep when possible wake for network access Start up automatically after a power failure and then because presumably because I have a ups plugged into it Uh, I via usb A battery backup for for those that didn't quite catch what a ups is I have a ups options button, but that's it. I got three options there in energy saver Not one of them relates to putting the mac to sleep How about you on on energy saver on your your mac there? You want to just check that for me? Confirm that I am not insane although I feel like apple's trying to drive me that way Yep, so you're gonna check energy saver there for me While you're doing that, I figured okay Maybe it's on lock screen. So did you check energy saver there, john? um Well, I don't have it here On your mac type in energy it then highlights battery battery. Oh And it matches on displays. Look at that. Ah, right. So there you go So I thought I'd look in lock screen because okay, maybe yep And there's turn display off when power adapter went inactive, but there's no turn the mac off So as you pointed out john displays is where to go and not just displays, but displays advanced And there are count them four options in displays advanced The first three have to do with link to mac or ipad So this is the whole you know push your mac through the side of the screen and get the other mac I turned that off because I don't want to be controlling the computer on a different floor of the building here So I turned that off and I was okay with that all but The bottom one sits alone on an island and what's the name of the the the category that it's in? energy Why is this in displays because? The option is prevent automatic sleeping when the display is off I feel like we've prioritized the wrong word in that They're saying prevent automatic sleeping when the display is off and therefore Displays is where they chose to put this This is madness folks. It needs to be an energy saver because what's it doing saving or not saving energy But max sleep isn't really display sleep these days kiwi gram said that in uh in our in our chat room here He says max sleep is really display sleep these days. That is incorrect If you're mac if like putting the display to sleep is great, but there is a separate max sleep And that was the whole thing with that thunderbolt problem like it does put the mac to sleep or not and uh Why is this buried here? I just don't Apple, what are you doing to me? Why are you doing this to me? I feel I feel um, I feel like they've targeted me john I'm not happy about it We've got one last thing about ventura settings that might maybe help some of us john, maybe uh the voice so Tony says, um Oh interesting, uh Tony uh Moved from osaka to mexico All right, Tony in osaka now he's tony in uh Quatera I don't know how to pronounce it. I think that's right. We're re we're re taro. Thank you john Good. All right Yeah, you're well. There's that accent over the e but anyways, um Listening to mac geek ab 952 and installing ventura simultaneously. It's dangerous um A more familiar view of system settings can be found in system settings menu bar view The If you do this, you'll then have an alphabetical listing of all the available system settings. Oh, that's nice Yeah, okay That makes it easier to find them if you know what what pain things are in All right And then what cracked me up is at the end of it is his email um My spanish isn't very good, but but he says no te de heis Atra Atra par Aha very nice. Oh, I like what that means. I think I do I think I've said that on the show, but it's been like a decade. Okay. Yeah, I think that's don't get caught man Is that right? Okay. Yes. Yeah. Yeah Yeah, yeah, why did we say that on the show? I don't know why we do things on the show Because it's fun and we gotta have some fun. That's how life works There's all kinds of things that we can do to have fun John I want to uh Well, there's two things I want to do but uh You got a new toy that we are definitely going to talk about in a minute Hey, you know when it comes to covering all things tech boy, do we have a podcast for you? Every week this weekend tech gives you a no holds bar deep dive into how big tech influences our culture and our lives Join twit.tv's leo leport and their ever changing panel of journalists and experts every sunday as they and i'm on the show So sometimes as we break down and often disagree on the latest tech Subscribe to this weekend tech wherever you get your podcast and our thanks to leo and the team for doing this swap with us All right, john, it's time. You guys your watch finally arrived Yeah, so that was the fun part. So uh, you and I ordered it when we were, um uh in the city A while back and um And we got it from amazon and then you got the notification amazon prime day deals on it. It was it was a good deal. Yeah Yeah, so, um Uh, you know, they delivered it using their courier And you sent me a picture Well, so what they do is they usually take a picture of you know the package on your doorstep Sure, and so you sent me a notification saying hey, it's there and i'm like, okay So I you know look on my porch and yep, there's a box and it's addressed to my neighbor Uh, oh, i'm like, are you kidding me? So I put the box on their stoop because it was the house Next to me and then I called them up or you know, I chatted with them You gave me all the info and i'm like you chatted with amazon. Yeah, and i'm like, uh, yeah, it didn't arrive and they're like Oh, yeah, no, and they're like is this the item and it's like, you know apple watch series eight But i'm like yep, that's it and they're like, oh, yeah, we'll ship you another one I'm like, okay. Well, I didn't get the first one Yeah, another one right. Yeah, exactly So that was odd though because the picture had my house number on it like in big huge Numbers and it was not the number on the box. So right pay attention guys Yeah, I don't know if you gave feedback saying boo Yeah, oh, I oh, I yeah, I did yeah for sure I I would assume that amazons because they take that picture with like their their little device or whatever And and I would assume that it's using gps to confirm that they are Where they should be but if it was your neighbor your houses are relatively close together So the gps has to be given a little bit of fudge factor Because otherwise it probably would have said no no no no to the driver like wrong address, you know, so When I run certain apps They will sometimes give me the number of the house either to the right or to the left of me, of course Yeah, that makes sense that makes sense. All right. So anyways, but then it finally came Uh, and it was the right address. So, uh So tore it open took the watch out and I'm like, you know what? I'm just going to dive right in So the first thing though, I just want to say I I want you to keep rolling I just want to make sure that That newer listeners know this is your first entry into the world of apple watch thus far You you have had no apple watch prior. So this is your first apple watch. Okay. Keep going. Yeah Um, all right. So the first thing I did was to put on the band and dude The mechanism for putting on a band is awesome It makes it fun. Doesn't it like I it makes it just like, you know what? I think I could figure this out and I just snapped it in and it just You know clicked and it's like and and then I put it on the fit is perfect. It's actually better than My other watch That makes it makes having multiple bands easy and fun, which is something I never would do with my other watches. Yeah The interesting part is As with many toys If you have to force something don't do it because I was like, oh, how how do I remove it? Oh, I actually had to I actually had to research this online So there are little buttons on the watch That are used to release the band. So don't force it Never force anything if it doesn't move and it should then You're doing something wrong. You're doing it wrong. Yeah, that's right. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. So the setup was really easy um You know the why it's like a lot of other things, uh, so it came up and it said, yeah, you uh, put a phone near me I'm like, okay And once it noticed that there was a phone near it it then put, uh, you know the Sparkly pattern on the watch, which I guess is getting the you know, wi-fi or bluetooth or some Some credentials and and then There it goes All right, so Now that you've got it set up you're using it. What like what are some of the Pros pro and con like what are some of the things you've noticed about Wearing a watch because for so many of us, you know, we've had watches for years And and there are like there's probably some things that that we've learned along the way that are helpful for you But I I feel like you sort of stepping into this with beginner's mind with fresh eyes You're going to notice some things that the rest of us overlook um the one thing That I thought was kind of weird. So the first thing that I wanted to try was um So, you know, I went out and about and just used it as as a watch Sure, but here's the first thing I tried. So this Watch can measure your heart rate It can do a ekg Or ecg or ecg, right? Um, and oxygen level and your blood and I'm like, oh cool. I'm like, okay Um, well, let let me run the apps to do that. And so I look on the watch Learning how to do an app view is to press the button not the crown Um, and I'm like, where's the app for this? And it's like, oh, well, you know, you Uh, I then looked online for guidance. So I couldn't figure it out and they're like, oh, yeah You may want to get the uh the watch app So you needed to install the o2 sensor app from apple it didn't just come on the watch No No, the app Um None of the apps appeared. I had to run something on my phone Uh in order to enable the app to appear on the watch. So that was kind of weird It is weird. Yeah Uh, but they all work, you know, it's it it's really uh, the the other reflection is that It didn't come with a bunch of watch faces and and it looks like what's happening is that The phone over time populates Certain data on the watch without really telling you that it's doing it Yes, that was going to be one piece of advice. I had for you was um, I I find it maddening That when I go into I also find it maddening that updating to ios 16.1 on my iphone Removed or defaulted to the show only four suggestions when you search instead of the show more which is show eight So, um, I just had to turn that on because I just updated to 16 one But if you go into the watch app Uh, and I believe you go. Yes. So go to the watch app and go to general automatic app install Is I believe on by default and quite frankly I can't deal with my watch being super cluttered with apps that i'm never going to use on my watch So I have that turned off now And and it always drives me crazy when it winds up getting turned back on So that that's one piece of advice again We're all different humans. Some of you may love having automatic app install and I get it I install too many things on my phone For that to be a realistic world to live in if I want something on my watch I'll I'll happily just you know, tell it to put it there and you would do that Then by going into settings Um, and I believe it's yeah If it just scroll down to the watch or go into the apple watch app and scroll down to the bottom And you'll see the apps that are on your watch that you can remove and the apps that aren't on your watch that you can install So, yeah Anyway, the other thing um That I've learned is that I want fewer notifications Yes So like for example running on my computer. I I get a So I have apple news. So I'll get apple news alerts, but then It also sent that alert to the the the watch to me. That's too annoying I don't need to know that piece of information on the watch. Yep. Yep Yep, so did you just go into to watch on your phone watch and the the watch app and then notifications and then just go set Individual Yeah, because it'll mirror alerts from your phone by default for everything and you can start to turn those off if you yeah Okay, so you just like turned it off for news or whatever. Is that right? Yeah. Yeah. All right. Yeah. Good stuff um, I had to uh And then what I usually do with my phone. So I decided to try this when I was out and about so one nice thing is that it um It transferred over one app that I used call stoke card, which lets you store your your uh Uh loyalty cards, okay, and we'll display the barcode and I'm like, you know what? Let me see if I can use my watch to uh To both let them scan for stores that that scan it like our grocery store. Uh, let me do that Um, let me display the barcode and then do apple pay with the watch and that worked great too. Um I had to go through the setup process With the watch in that, you know, you had I had to enter the uh ccv for all my cards over again And I was like, what a pain in the neck. Yes. Yes. I'm sorry. Here is the other thing I noticed the wallet initially yes, so so this is The thing that stuck in my mind about transferring over stuff When I added my cards to the wallet And then I went to the wallet on the on the watch only my cards were there. I'm like, well, where's my other stuff? Oh, right. Eventually it transferred it over um, yeah, that was kind of weird too is Again, things things are starting to appear On the watch that weren't there when I initially set it up. They're also coming to take you away. Ha ha Uh The uh, although I know yeah based on how it's been today. I think they're coming to take me away uh one One thing to be aware of is that When you put your cards on your watch the same as when you put them on your phone Uh They get a different number So, you know, there's the number that's on your card And then the one that's on your phone that your phone advertises to like, you know kiosks Is a different number but still yours and the one on your watch is yet another different number and where this gets to be very important is um If you are doing something where you are being sort of tracked Hopefully intentionally and and with permission For your purchases and where it mattered for us was when we visited london And I think new york will do the same thing when you're using the subways there Or in london, of course called the tube You get a discount if you ride if you're based upon the frequency with which you ride But that discount is applied specifically to your credit card numbers So if you're going back and forth using your watch and your phone You you will you will qualify separately from each device for that discount Is really how it's done So and new york probably does the same thing because there's no account that you create you just tap your phone and you go Yes There is actually Okay, you can get an account for their payment system Got it and does that does it and actually when I did that it then showed What cards I had used recently? All right, it had it had my amix in there Which is the card that I have set up as my travel card and and it showed up How so yes, you could get a uh, is it o m n y Okay, all right. So just be aware there might be some places where it matters. It seems like in the new york subways You are right because um, it depends on the credit card vendor So for example, I bought something With my watch on my city card or one of my city cards Okay, um When I looked on my phone the transaction did not appear there But when I bought something using my watch and my amix It did appear on the phone So I I think it's it's really up to The bank. Yeah, the bank how they hand if if they it was just funny that it didn't see That the watch out or the the iOS app Didn't see the transaction For one card, but it did for another got it got it. Yeah. Yeah, cool. Yeah, so just be aware that the numbers are different Um, it may or may not matter Um and the other Yeah, and and the other thing I learned, uh, and it was funny because one of the stores I went to I tried using my watch to pay And she's like, uh, do it face down That help. Yes. Yeah. Yeah, you have to twist your wrist. I will recommend Not using your watch for boarding passes Uh, when when getting on airplanes It like it has not been them It's been a disaster every time It's like, you know, you you got to hold your wrist at a weird angle Or it needs to be at certain distance from the camera that's scanning it and it's just It's still much easier to use my phone when getting on airplanes. So I share that here. Yep What else is neat, um Well folks, I mean, uh, yeah, I mean if something else comes to mind Please share but folks send in your your tips for everything, but specifically your watch tips Uh, to feedback at macgeekab.com. We'd love to hear from you. 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Um, we are short on time But I did want to share a couple of things and john this first one might be of great interest to you uh listener ed wrote in sort of chiming in on our discussion about Magsafe chargers and the three and one chargers that we've been finding I talked about the one that I got from 12 south uh I also talked about the one that I got from uh from belkin and Pete mentioned the one that he found sort of the off-brand one that he found on amazon and the one difference between Pete's You know $40 one and the hundred and hundred and fifty dollar ones that I found is The light doesn't the light on on Pete's inexpensive one stays on all night and that's no bueno. Well to the rescue comes listener ed with this fantastic Magnetic charger I my guess is they don't have the magsafe approval from apple because that would add like 50 bucks to the cost And it's only $40 I bought one of these for lisa because she saw all the ones that that I that we were using in the house and Sky took one to italy with her so lisa couldn't come and hear that one But uh, she's like, oh wait. I want that and this one that ed found Is 40 bucks It's it's a three-way charger meaning it'll charge your phone with you know the magsafe connector Your apple watch sits on the back. It can charge your airpods It's got a cheep hat on the bottom of it if you want to charge your airpods you can but it is tiny It takes up like less room on your desk than a phone would And it has a button on it john that lets you turn the light off and it is off off It's not like on dim or anything. No man. It is off and it's 40 bucks on amazon So it's linked from the show notes. It is It's from the pilita store pilita is the the brand name showing up on amazon, but just go to the thing I bought this I did a risky thing john Among the other things I bought this as an anniversary present because lisa and I last monday Celebrated our 24th wedding anniversary And I think she might like this better than the bracelet that I got her. So, you know, there you go Had to get the bracelet though because the stones for the 24th were tanzanite and she likes tanzanite and the color is lavender So I you know sort of found that Technically the 24th anniversary is the music anniversary or the musical instrument anniversary Every other anniversary gift I've gotten has got has to do with music including for our 20th, which is the platinum I think anniversary. I got her a A platinum Elvis Presley record Because Elvis as john knows Walked lisa down the aisle at our wedding or at least someone who approximated Elvis So yeah, anyway so that's uh That's one introduction to cool stuff found. Do you have any cool stuff found to uh to report john? um We should do a bunch of cool stuff found next week. I've got I've got a ton in the queue here So I will while you're thinking I will I will note that michael the author of the shoot app That we mentioned last week that lets you use your iphone as a camera with your mac Separate from continuity camera. I said it would be great to use shoot alongside reincombates camo So you get a multiple cameras going guess what? michael tells me that shoot already does multi cam. So if you have multiple iPhones boom you can use them and uh Yeah, so thank you for sharing that with us michael good good stuff You got anything for today john or um I may I I actually ordered apples uh dual charger Oh Okay, all right. Yeah, it's it's not cheap but um Yeah, uh the one reflection I have is the charger that comes with the watch doesn't Really instill a feeling of confidence and that I'm like wow this thing's really cheap Yeah, yeah, it's just sort of how it is. Yeah. Yeah. Yeah. All right. Well, uh, we'll keep that on the list Let us know next week. Um after it arrives. How you think of it? Do you didn't get it yet? Did you the apple one? Um, I ordered it yesterday. So you okay. It's on the way. It's on the way. Yeah, of course. All right. We'll talk about that next week. That's great. Yeah, we'll do a lot of cool stuff found next week I think that's gonna be uh It's gonna be important for us. So All right. 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Uh, oh John Yes, I do and What I have to say is don't get caught made Happy halloween everybody. See you next week