 Welcome to Toffy TV, me pet an Andy in the studio in spite of the coronavirus. We are out. We aren't self-isolating. What was self-isolating in here? In here, yeah. We're kind of going against self-isolating. We're just isolating. Self-isolating would be an arrow. There's nothing wrong with us. We're co-isolating. We're fine. We're fine, but like I said, you can't put anything on without the coronavirus. So we're going to talk a little bit about the impacts of it and it's a mad time, isn't it? For everything, really. It's unprecedented. It's so weird, isn't it? It feels like over the weekend I felt like the world had stopped. Like literally like it was like, I don't know, just felt like everything had stopped. And it's almost like one of those things where you just like, you go, have I got to actually go to work today? Are people going to work? It felt like everything had stopped. Like in, I don't know. It's very, very strange. Very, very strange. I've never encountered anything quite like it. It's brusat. Andy, did you think? Six weeks ago when, you know, there was these predictions that it was going to go the way it's gone? No, because obviously with people in the slack. So someone said that the lad who lives in India was like, are you worried about coronavirus? And there's a string of ha-ha-ha-nose and lolls and all that. No, six weeks later football isn't even on. So it shows how things change. And no, I never thought this is that. But I think, you know, lifetime, you know, on my lifetime. I mean, there's not really been anything like this with, you know, even in, I mean, after 9-11, I think they had a week, what's your break and that was it, the things came back. But this is sort of every sport in the world. Stopping and it's a bit of a change. You play Champions League games that night? No, I'm not surprised. That tells you the impact. My miss has been telling me about this for weeks. Like, I mean, not weeks, sorry. Like literally, like literally since day one, she's been like saying that this is not going to, she works in NHS. She said this is going to be a thing. And I've been the same, I'll behave yourself, it'll be fine. Because know what I did foolishly? I foolishly trusted the people in charge. I hope so. I hope so. I hope so. I've never thought this country. That would deal with it. But you can't deal with trouble. And that's impressive. And the issue was at the time, you should have just closed the board, doesn't you? And not let anyone out. And then you might have been able to contain them a bit. But they did and once people, you said it on the live about four weeks ago, they'll be like Planet of the Apes and that's what's happened. People have left there and it's gone everywhere, hasn't it? And once it's in a country... It's coronavirus, isn't it? The mad thing is, just before we get into the term of the football, the implications of football is the fact that remember when those people came back from China and they were put on buses and then shipped up to the Whittle and then put in isolation for like two weeks and all that kind of thing. And they were properly on lockdown. And yet you could fly in from the land and just be like, hello, hello. The land on Madrid is a hotspot in Europe and 3,000 of them were allowed to come in last week. My nephew came, my nephew went skiing in Italy three weeks ago. We were at the match with them against Manchester United and we were like, you're all right? And he was like, yeah, we were told, we were told basically to self actually, but I just sat in the house playing on the Xbox anyway. And like that's the attitude that it's got us where we are today because China was like all the bad stuff and like Italy. Oh, don't worry about Italy. Even last night, there was a picture last night on Twitter of someone flying in from Milan and there was no checks on them. And yeah, weeks and weeks and weeks ago in places like Singapore, you couldn't go anywhere in public or go into any building without having a temperature scan on you. Well, that's what's how on did, didn't it? As soon as it broke out, it started to test them or test them that they started to self-isolation. And they put all these measures in place before it even hit there. It's lazy arrogance of the West. Well, it's lazy arrogance of the West. That's what it is. 40 million had to get it for health immunity. Well, the graph, do you remember the graph before it came here? It was America and Britain with its two more spreadies to do with it. Well, I don't know. With arrogance. Exactly. With arrogance and also what we care about, all the people at the top care about is money. So, therefore, they leave everything to the last minute so that the markets don't get hit by it. You can bring that full circle, the football, because football overalls round money, doesn't it? Well, we will, but just to finally, before we do move on to the full circle, you shouldn't have had just seen a video this morning in Benidom where about 30 Brits had just gone to beach. They were told not to go out and just bladded and gone to beach on a pleat of head or something like that. For me, just last them all in prison for a few weeks. Cos you're told literally not to do it. Why? Because every other country, people a day, why the Brits feel like, ah, I don't can give a shit. Well, people in America would do it, there's a lot of videos in America. Those in America would exactly say, we've got an arrogance about, we've got an arrogance about. We've seen that with, not even in that. No, I know, no, but that's right because we're British and we've had an empire. That's why we are where we are politically in both countries. And that's why we, there wasn't a travel ban on the UK from America last week because it was that old scat your back syndrome. We've done it for years. There's an arrogance in this country and an arrogance in America that were better than everybody else because we've gone round the world stomping on people. And that's still in effect now, that whole attitude, you know, the old two world wars and one world cup sort of attitude. And that's where we find ourselves because other countries are prepared for this. And they have like, they do, yeah? And they go to places like Japan, places like that where if the government says something, you react because they know best. But then on the other flip side of that, we elect dickheads. So we get what we deserve when we elect dickheads. I said to you 10 years ago that Donald Trump, slaver's the apprentice man, it would be leading the free world in the fight against a disease. You know, you laughed your head off for years. I think it's important for everyone just to follow the guidelines. Wash your hands for more than 20 seconds, thoroughly sneeze into a hankie or into putting a bin and wash your hands or anything to prevent the NHS being overwhelmed. That's what it is. It's about slowing it down so that the NHS can deal with it and people can look after themselves. And the other thing I'd say without it being everything party, political, bro cast off one of those things is that if there's people who are vulnerable, who you're in contact with or you know elderly people or whatever, try and help them out if you can. Just if that's going in the shop for them and whatever. Just the one thing that I will take out of it is hopefully, and I've seen this locally actually, and I've seen it on Twitter before, it looks like a chip you own it in like L31 and said, Wedyn Steve, there's any over 70s when fishing chips messes me and I'll bring it up thing here. Just look out, no, it's a little thing. No, I know, but look out for each other on the flipside of that. We've seen all the stuff with the supermarket. No, what we are, but I'm talking about individuals. If you can help someone and look out for each other a little bit, then do that. But it's affected everything like I said before, Billy, it's the last video. Disney World, there's a Disney World shut down now it's bad. But the football and a lot of sport has stopped. And I suppose at first you're like, ah, it's all like that. I mean, we're recording this on the day we should be playing Liverpool and the Darby. That's why it's all right. And I'll be honest, I'm quite happy not to be going to maths tonight, but it's when you think, well, hang on, when are we actually going to see football again? Because at the minute, and especially for your heavily working in the industry now with players and stuff, it's there's no resume date or the resume date they've quoted isn't going to be resumed. No, there's no idea. And there's so many different levels to it really, if you think about it, because obviously football is a money business now, but the lower league teams, cash flows can be severely, they're the ones who are going to really suffer. You know, probably league teams have got that guarantee TV where you can survive without matchday revenue, seeing the figures before. But teams in league one, league two really run out of line on that matchday revenue going to struggle without aid from the football league or from the BFA or whoever. So it's also, if you think about it, this has got the potential to be the longest time without football since the second well walk, which is, you know, it's unfathomable really, because it was what, 70 years ago. So who knows what's going to happen, but hopefully it won't be too long, but it should only be when people come back when it's right time not to for television. Yeah, I don't think it'll come back until everything's due. Not sorted, but till we get that down, which is low. Because we sat there on Thursday, didn't we? And when we were doing a live show, when we announced what the precautions were, and when they said that it wouldn't affect, you know, sporting events, I was absolutely flabbergasted and you can go back and watch the live, and I'm sitting there for about five minutes, just can't really take in what has just been said. For the whole show, never mind five minutes. Because at the end of the day, this is something that, you know, can spread so easily. It almost felt like they wanted us to get sick. Wink. Yeah, it did. And then obviously later that night, Michael Arthetta comes out and says he's ill, and that got the ball rolling. Obviously he'd met the Olympiacos present. That got the ball rolling. And suddenly, what had he shifted from us? We don't want loads of people sick too. Oh, hang on, maybe we've got a thick start thinking about the actual sports people here. Wayne Rooney said it since we were treated like guinea pigs. And then, luckily enough, Friday, they made the decision, which we all felt was inevitable anyway. Tomorrow, you wait for them to probably cancel euros as well. So obviously, like you said, the fourth of April for the Premier League is when they have, oh, they've given themselves the breathing space or that. But we all know it will not be back on the fourth of April. There's no chance, there's literally no chance. And then, so the question is now, when does it come back and how does it affect the competitions? And I think that's the big talking point now. I don't know whether that should be the talking point right now. Because I think we're in that period where it's only just started and no one knows enough about it. We're literally, we're looking for daily briefings, aren't we, from our governments and stuff like that to keep us up-to-date? Cos this thing is moving. Like I say, Thursday it was like life continues as normal. Now it's Monday, there's no sport. Colleges and universities are starting to close. Schools are looking to close. Loads of people are working from home. People are going in shops and running them to buy their stuff, even though there's no problem with the supply chain, which is absolutely nonsense. So the question is now, hopefully we'll start looking for answers. What do we do next? And I think that really is the big question, isn't it? What do we do next? Yeah, it's such a difficult time to try and predict anything. My daughters' university is shut today. I fully expect schools to close this week or those acts on the residential this week. It's probably the best place for them. But we know that the three universities in the city now are all shut. Amy's being told that she won't be back there now. She's in the third year anyway, but a placement will continue, but she won't be back at uni. So that's a big thing, obviously, for this city. But things like football, trying to predict, don't think we can predict, but what do, in your opinion, how do you try to resolve, not resolve the coronavirus, that's out of our hands, but how do you try to resolve it? It's a messy situation for football, just for the competition. It's not just for football, it's for sub-industries to come off it. So you've obviously got, just in Liverpool, like the pubs really rely on football, especially county roaders. It's a, you know, all them in, there's a sub-industry that comes around football, it's really going to struggle. And with no students as well. Yeah, so basically there's a lot of, so if you think about it, there's a lot of things that are going to suffer as a result of new football, and obviously then you've got the Sky TV contract, the betting companies are going to be out of money, hotels. So there's all this pressure on football. Taxi and drivers, which are going to suffer anyway. Yeah, well yeah, well I think I'll have to taxi yesterday, and they spoke to this, they say it's been so quiet, because all people aren't going out anymore. I used to do the cabs of a daytime, you're all people who eat bread and butter, but what you do really, it's, I don't understand why the Premier League thought that it would be all right up until this day, because you had the NBA situation. You were looking for guidance. But the NBA situation was two days before, where Rudy Gobert was slapping all of Mike's, and it turned out that he had coronavirus, and the doctor had to run on the course and cancel the game. You know on Thursday afternoon that they decided there wasn't going to be any press conferences. So it was like no press conferences, but with the games you can go on. Like this is the problem, but the whole thing is that there's no, there's no leadership out there anyway. So it was supposed to come from top down, but everyone's had to make their own decisions. And even today, horse racing hasn't completely decided what it's doing yet. I think there's just a meter height. I think they've got a race book without people, and you can still do that, because essentially it is a TV sport. I don't even know if you want to... It is a sport, but it's a betting sport, isn't it? It's a betting sport. And so you can do that if you want that industry to run. I think the problem is just, you know, everyone knows that my thoughts on this government and everything else, but I think it's difficult for... It was probably difficult for them last week, because they probably were thinking, oh, we've got longer than we need. And then obviously, like you said, the ones like the Michael R. Tether come out and we've got it, it was like, what, real people? They's like real superstar. Because really he said that, didn't he? Really he said there's players that we know will test the positive for it. Hodgian Ydwy was one of them, but he said there's players in the lower leagues. But because Michael R. Tether was tested, you know, positive, so that's it. So, but what do we, from a sport perspective, and I know, you don't realise at first how much it touches everything you just mentioned that day, you have as well pubs and taxis and restaurants and hotels and because in your mind, you're just thinking about what's in front of you, which is your team. But how do we, I mean, what do we do competition-wise? Let's forget about the logistics for a minute. How do we resolve it from a competition perspective? Because everything's still, all right, Liverpool have won the league. We know that unless, I mean, we've lost four of the last six or something like that. Well, in general, Liverpool have won the league, but there's a lot of uncertainty everywhere else now. Certainly in the Premier League, just for starters. I think the Serie A, the Serie A, before they changed the mind, they had three proposals, didn't they, on the team. It was either null or void this season. I think it was stairs it is and whoever wins it and the third one was off the playoffs for a small number of games to decide those particular things. And who knows, really, because, for example, if all... What do you think should happen though? I think I would, I would, I'd null and void this season, start somewhere early, if I'm honest. I think, but then, see, I say that right, but I haven't got the TV companies on my back because I haven't got potential playoff teams in the championships suing the league. There's going to be a lot of negotiation, like I was saying off camera to Baz, you know, you may get teams like Norwich going, okay, we may accept, they probably won't get relegated, but they may say we'll accept relegation if he gives us 50 million more next season. So you've got to... We'll go quiet. You've got to use a comariff, yeah, a comariff. So you've got, there's a lot of league legality stuff and money stuff to sort out and I think that's why they will try and get the league back on and I think that's why, probably, I think they would have the hope that all the players get it so they can play the season. That realistically, then, they can all, there'd be no crowds, obviously, but they can all go back to play it in six weeks. Rhae, it's awful to say that if the players get it, it does, it does, it does, it does, it's all right, but it's almost like they're going to have to go through the period of being able to start training slowly and build up again, which is why April 4th is a no-go. No, I think it's also about the quality of the game and Sky TV don't want to be playing where people are playing like a pre-season because that's what, when they come back after a little bit, it's going to be coming back like that. And that's where it's hard to fit in. If you look at other American sports there, they're thinking about the same thing as well. So how do you solve all those issues? I think the UI for me in tomorrow is going to be really important. I think they've got to just front up and say the euros are cancelled. I think they are anyway, obviously, because obviously we spoke about this last week. People are travelling, because it's not in one place, it's everywhere all over Europe, that doesn't help, does it? You'll have a lot of travel bans and all that, and the last thing they want is... Is it being spread in the virus? It's spread in the virus, but like empty stadiums and all this kind of thing, it's not good for the product when you could delay a buy a year and it's a B. And don't forget, because we're having a late world cup in 2022, there's a... There'll be like 16 months between the six months. Yeah, there's a better scope for that. So we don't forget as well, you've got the logistics of the qualifiers that are not happening as well. Yep, true, it's a big deal. So there's a knock-on effect on that. So I think if they cancel that, that opens the door for the Premier League, certainly, to say we can get this competition back on. And I actually think, forgetting about who's going to be the champions, I actually think that that should happen. The sport aspect? From every aspect, I've thought about it. Liverpool deserved to win the league. And even though it would be absolutely hilarious if they got an asterisk. You wouldn't like to see the result of this, though. If it was us. Yeah, it would have. We'd be... I mean, that's been us. We've been literally going on about something that has happened to us for 35 years. Something that was completely taken out of our hands, something that was nothing to do with us. So even though it would be absolutely hilarious, it still wouldn't be right because it's nothing to do with them. I think the best thing to do would be just find a way to play those nine games as quickly as possible. You'd have to cancel the Champions League, then, yeah. I think the Cup competitions are dead. I think the Cup competitions are finished. I think... We'll be up to the FA Cup 40s. But then that's wrong. Yeah, but it's a Cup competition. I'd also... FA, and you're going to have to cancel the FA Cup. I think what... Cup competitions are standalone one-off to one-off. But what you've got to think of, the reason why I don't think they will, though, is because the Champions League, the biggest competition in the world. I know it is, but you've got to get a... To share the money equally. You've got to get away from that. You've just got to go, well, I can be cancelled. But why is the Premier League important? Because it has a knock-on effect every year. There's too many teams. There's more teams involved than the Champions League. I know they can't care about that, but... Football will go back to normal. Absolutely. No, no, it has to go back to normal. And there's too many variables from the point of view of who comes up, who goes down, who gets your up, who's winning the league. And I think if you can get those nine games, let's say we play nine games, three days between every game, and just get them done as quickly as we can. I don't know how they're going to do it, because I don't know when they're going to do it, but I just don't think... I just don't think coming back next season and having all these problems, because all these things have, like, out making a 22-league Premier League, and then, you know, no-one goes down, the teams come up, and then, well, next season we're going to have to play more games when we could have just played them this season. All those things, I just think if you can get it done, get it done. How long can it go, though, before you have to cancel it? Because there's only a certain point, because the players are going to have time off, and the Premier League can't really start league, because then the Euro is going to be next summer as well. It's such a battle. I understand all that, but the point being... I agree that they should look to the back-on book. The point being is that... there's so much to work out if they don't play the nine games, whereas if they play the nine games, at least then it's done. They could do it in four weeks, basically, yeah. That's what I'm saying, if they could get it done, and then they've got the integrity of the season, and I think that's all they're looking for. I just think that the headaches that this will create by not playing the nine games is just huge. It's huge, and you can't say to anyone who's in the bottom three now, really, with your relegator, because one of those teams has got a game in hand. Yeah, so yeah. My opinion is it won't come back. It'll be cancelled. No, I'm going to forget about what you think will happen. What do you think should happen? I think you should just scrap it on one basis. I think it should've been all on foot, because there's no logistical timescale to do it. It's not going to be back on the fourth of April. But there's no... Like Andy should have said. That's fair enough, but there's no logistical reason why next season has to start. There is, because the Euros are cancelled. The calendar starts backing up. The calendar is ready to go. You've got qualifiers. You've got qualifiers for... I'll tell you why. Your qualifier is still to decide the Euros. The World Cup is going to start. The World Cup qualification begins in August. Then you're going to have a major championship in June. Why does the Euros have to be in June? Why don't you put it down? Because then it knocks everything out. But we're going into a World Cup in 16 months later. Yeah, yeah, so the Euros could be arguably in September. What else is getting cancelled this year? Well, then you'd have to cancel everything. Dylan, books will go to next year, so it comes back to you now. I know, but the point being this idea that the Premier League has to come back in August because it doesn't have to come back in August. The Premier League could come back. The Euros could happen in August, September, if you needed it to. Because the World Cup the following year, you could even work it so that... No, but you could, there's nothing... No, I agree, because the Christian Spain start late every year. No, what I'm going to say is, that's fine, right? But why would you wreck every other calendar for the sake of nine games that don't matter? Because they do matter. In terms of money, they do matter. It'll be null and void, it'll be null and void. It'll be matter because of the knock-on effect. Hang on, but you're talking about a knock-on effect and then you're knocking on the effect onto everything else that's to come. I do really mean to think about if the nine games aren't played, it's not just the Premier League, it's the championship. It's European football, it's all affected all... For a couple of years as well, because you can't just do the relegation next season and get rid of 48 of our teams. You have to bring the back-tamps with you. You leave the champions down. It's null and void, it's null and void. Because they'll do a court challenge. They'll do a court challenge all they want, it's out of the... It depends on the rules now, they can't... I mean, you could say this all day, I don't know what's out of the window. You know when you get like a house and it's an act of God and you can't claim? This is an act of... It is, it is, I claim, but... It is, it's people have got this thing that we can just... We have to play these games. I don't think that clubs that won't survive, I think that leads are basically all in on getting up in these last two years. Oh, she'll lead won't survive. No, I'm not saying that. But if they deny that opportunity, then they've got the precedent to say we should be in the Premier League. So, how you fix all that, I agree with you. It should probably null and void this season. But there's so many legal things to hairls to overjum, then there's the calendar. The calendar, to me, is the main reason why I think it will be. If you could guarantee on the 4th of April everyone was playing again, then yet you can squeeze it in, still give the players... Then the time between the games is too long. So, May to June, no, cos teams still play friendlies on... You'd have to cancel that big cup, but teams use to play a friendly, don't do the big, rich teams play a friendly at the end of May. So, I think that's why players caught some players' loans from up to the 31st of May. So, you could do it all in those four weeks tonight, but after that, then... I listened to the fella from the Premier League yesterday, and he was like, basically, we're struggling now. And if it isn't back on in three weeks, there's no chance. You'd need at least a week for them to have a mini pre-season as well. You're picking up injuries there. It's just the players aren't going to do it. And you're not going to push club. You can push, for me. And this is only my opinion, and you've obviously got very different ones, but I don't see why you'd start to push calendars that are coming in the future and squeezing things for the sake of something that... The problem is, again, this is what we talk about with, you know, community spirit and all that, football, set everyone on football. So, you afer should really get rid of the euros and just say, we'll miss this calendar out. And to be honest, you should do, for the sake of what, but you won't because of the money. That's the problem all round. That's why the Champions League won't be slapped. Exactly. That's the problem. Because there's too much money involved now. And, you know, I was talking to you about the NBA. The Vody and the TV contract's written that they have to be played because of the way the TV works. Because they've already had the money. It's a TV sport, isn't it? It is, yes. Siad eili, it will be back in three or four weeks. It's not the fans that bother about it. It's the TV. Football is basically TV now. Because, look, Everton wouldn't have made any money last year without that TV money. No, we know that, but that... There's a lot of clubs like that, but that's the way it is, isn't it? If something's taken out of your hands, then you protect it from it. Otherwise, if it wasn't, no league would be saying, we'll null and void it. No one would be saying it. Siad eili, have basically come out and said their league's scrapped? It is fixed anyway. They must have something like... Francis said the same. Francis said leagues are, though. They might not have a collective bargaining position. Exactly. Well, let's be honest, the Premier League's the biggest club competition in the world. No-one pays them all the money to watch another league in the Premier League. So it's not just here. It ultimately comes down to the clubs, doesn't it? Ultimately, it'll come down to the clubs. The clubs will vote. It's 14, they need 14. They only need 14. I'll draw Paul Eaton, the other 11 already. So the bottom four will say, we want it to be null and void. It's Liverpool, it won't want it. There's only Liverpool who won't want it null and void. I'm sitting everywhere and I'll see if I want to get it. The city will want it null and void. So they'll get the 14 they need. Oh, they'll sweeten the pots somehow. They'll get the 14 they need. I just wonder, for me, my business is what's going to happen to the transfer window, because at this stage of the season, you're marching April, you're doing your final live scouting checks, because you need to obviously, live scouting is very important. We do a lot on video, you do a lot with data now, but live scouting is still a final tick box you need. Without that, a club's going to be willing to invest that amount of money in players. I think it's going to affect the transfer market massively. In that, you're going to see a lot more loans with options to buy rather than... Well, the flip side of that would... You'd probably have to suspend FFP for next season as well then. Well, there's a knock on effect, which means Manchester City will laugh all over too. You have to wonder because if people haven't made money, then how can that be held against them if you haven't made money? Which means that you're going to have teams going insane in the market then, and I mean like crazy, because if this is the one season you can go mad, then teams like Spendon... Spendon £600 million. The thing about it... This is the other thing for me as well, is that it's one thing saying we can play nine games in three weeks or four weeks, but it's when that starts, so when does your season finish, play a contract finish on June 30th that you've done by then? How are you giving the players time off? How are you having pre-season tournaments? Well, not necessarily pre-season tournaments, because they're irrelevant, but pre-season games enough to build your team back up, to begin a league, to be fit to carry through. There's just too many things that knock at the calendar by going, and it will play it here, it will play it there with having a break. Yeah, teams might go off to South Africa and play it friendly, but the season's finished. They take after kids with them. They're not bothered, it's a friendly. They have faith, cool. The Champions League for Argin and Sheik, our team's over in the... Atalanta for Argin and Sheik on the go. Oh, yeah, we'll scrap it. They're in the quarter-final. They need the money. They might never be in the quarter-final, ever again. The Champions have just gone off. They're the least likely to be allowed to play, because they're based in the Lombardy region, which is completely locked down. So the whole thing is, they're going to play the Champions League as a quick tournament in June, and the Europa League. Where are they going to play? They won't mind, they'll just be a quick. That's what they're saying. That's what they're saying today. The Europa League and the Champions League might be condensed to, like you said, three weeks' tournament or whatever in June, which is crap, isn't it? It's not great, but these clubs want the money. That's going to say to players without regular trading. They'll get in. They need that. A lot of teams are. A lot of teams have come back to training today. They should do, though, because it's... The best way to get... No, no, it's how you keep intent. It's your window future of the game. Well, you're not a small side. It's not the same, mate. No, it isn't. Imagine, for example, you come back after six weeks and someone gets injured. It starts a whole snowball. There'll be legal challenges again. I think the most important question is... Do you mind that, really? It's when... When they get the nod, then we'll know how they work it out. It's not going to be this next weekend, the one that's coming up the fourth. So it's when they get that nod. We're not going to know how anything's going to play out till we get that nod. So it's... A lot of it's irrelevant. For me, I think... Just because that well cup is when it is. That sort of opens the door for having to just be moved along a little bit. But... That's a massive con as well. Of course it is. It almost feels like the whole thing is playing into it. But we'll have to wait and see. There's all these different things. This is the headache that football's got to deal with now. It's that there's got all these plates to spin. What it shows you is how everything's put in place. But how precarious it is already. Just in general. That's the case isn't it? This is why the Champions League always never cancelled games or they put them on the next day. Well the bomb one, the one where they put it back. This is why they do. It is a very precarious situation. They also show you that as much as we love it or some of us love it. There's too much football now. We're sitting here all sitting here going all the Europe. There's a couple of America this summer. Let me solve it. No more international games. Sorry I can't have ministerial fans in how you love England. But international football is international football to me. I know it's great for the welcome. Keep the welcome in the Euros. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. It's money that we shouldn't be allowed in. O, my God, awd, i'n gwybod ni'n gwybod. If you know them, void it. And went right, we all start again. We all start again in August as normal in September. Everything's back on track. If you start going, go to do this, go to do that, we'll move that, we've got to get that. It's like when England played Poland, remember they launched it down and they cancelled it. They had to play it the next day because there was no way to put it. It is the easiest thing. I appreciate it, it's the easiest thing on paper. The problem is, what is the knock-on effect of that? Do you know what I mean? What if you want to start talking like, you want to talk about things that are predictable? This gives those clubs who are in the quarter-finals of the Champions League and the likes of Liverpool a reason to go Super League. 20 teams, we don't have to put up with any of this. We go to a Super League now, we don't have to worry about any of this. When we want our calendar, we don't have to worry. I think we had a similar conversation last week when we did the 40-show on Peter. We were saying, it might be a case that players are going to have to make a decision now on whether they want to play in a Super League or international football. Like in the 70s in cricket. Do you have to say that? No, carry-patter and all that kind of thing. They might have to make a decision. Some teams might break away. This might be the thing that actually kicks that where they go. You know what? There's too much football. This calendar is ridiculous. If you're a top player, you've got to make your mind up now. Do you want to be a top player playing in the Super League that we play all around the world? Or do you want to play normal football, play international games? Wake yourself to death playing for your international team and your normal team. Or you can come play us and hear millions and millions and that. Sadly, it all revolves around money, doesn't it? Always, always. That's football for me. There's no easy way to do it. Do you have the only sports league that's actually benefitting from all this? The NFL, because it's just not on you. Because it's not on you? Yeah, because they've got six months to get it right. To get it right. They've got the way to that. Every other sports league's on isn't it in the world? It's when you look at it, it's like you're showing on it. It's when you look at the transfer window and all that. If you start pushing things back and pushing things forward, it wrecks everything. If you don't have a right to that and you're going to buy a player, you're going to spend 30 million on just any right-wing, and you look at it and go, I haven't been able to watch this player properly since then. We haven't seen him play football for months. It adds the risk on top of it then. It creates doubt in your mind. It's going to affect a lot of you. You know what? A top league football is fine. The lower down of the league table is where I'm bothered by. I think for teams in the league one and league two, it's going to be tough a couple of months. I was going to say as well, does football have a social responsibility as well though. I think of Dave Bond in the Winslow, who's not going to be able to open his pub now. He would have budgeted for five more games. And now they've gone. But because he doesn't know whether he's going to get those five games back. How does he put it? He has to let his staff off. And then that's not going to affect their lives as well. That's what I mean. All the people who provide the catering for say, good or some part. They'll probably all be paid. I think there's a pressure on the table. That's fine if you're in the Premier League. What if you're a hand-to-mouth organisation who works with them? If you look at the travel companies, a lot of them are going bust because you realise that they were basically week to week living on those bookings. And there's a lot of industries like that that we don't realise are so close to the precipice that are going to go. And footballs and other one, you've got teams like Michael's Field that haven't been paid on and off. I think investors are going to pull the money from them clubs and say, well, I'm going to protect myself. And that's sadly what's going to happen. I know they're not leagues for whatever reason, but it'll be off. Because they can't afford to stay out of it. They're whole businesses run off match day revenue. So what happens, I don't know. Maybe it will come back on April 4th and basically just saying, we'll give it this couple of weeks. I don't think it will. I think it'll come back on April 4th. I think it'll come back on April 4th. But I think maybe they've said we have to come back because the way it's... If you were a player, wouldn't you just say, no, I'm not coming back. We've seen last night, we've seen players in Mexico and some in South America who are wearing masks because they've been forced to play where they didn't want to. That's what Rooney said about the players being guinea pigs. All these players are in very close proximity to each other. It's not just the players, the match officials. Unless you get to a position where and then you have to have people... I'm 74 years old. I'm not being ageist. These people are in that vulnerable zone. It affects them now. The players... It's probably not going to affect the players, touch wood doesn't affect any players. Or it'll take us where someone gets seriously ill. If it comes back, if someone gets seriously ill, that'll be the end of it. We'll need to have to stop it again, so there's that decision to be made as well. Because if someone gets ill after they bring it back, there's going to be trouble, isn't there really? That's the problem. I think the football... The only way football could bring it back to the closed doors as maybe a slow start is by if they know that it's on the downward scale. We're coming out of it. I think Italy's the one. If Italy starts slowing down, which hopefully it does for them. Because I think all the European countries are looking at Italy. Because that's a waste case scenario, isn't it? Of course. It's just the NHS only on the off-strain. I think that's what they're all... factors to consider. Whereas China, China basically is draconian. They just shut everything down. We can't do that here. So it's hard to gauge how it's going to work. Trying to bring the sport back when we don't know how bad it's going to get is the difficult part. I think you've just said something there. Actually, they should do draconian measures. Well, they've done it heavily in China. China is an authority in government. But... The government should have cancelled weeks and weeks and weeks ago. Tywan did it, like literally the day it broke out. Ultimately, we're not going to know till we know. We know as much as the Prime Minister. Let's be honest here. We're not going to... It's not under control until it's under control. There's the camp plan for it. Hopefully we get warm weather there, because that'll help. I don't think it will help. It's in Australia. No. Also, a piece... This is quite a good thing, I suppose, because we're going to start taking anti-bodies out of people who've recovered and boost people's immune systems against it. It's not going to stop people getting it. It's just going to help them, which hopefully lessens the death rate, which is what we want, of course, more than anything. Football is great, but there's more to life. It's a sport. It's a massive... Football is community. Sport is important. The racing is important for people. But I'm talking about... Football is owned by its fans, really. It's always has been, and you've got to realise that. But it's also the little industries, the cottage industries outside, the small industries outside. You had the example of Winslow Pope in the break, how are they going to survive without that? Now, Thomas Frost will probably be okay, because it's the weather screens, but it's a big business, but how will smaller, independent people survive? It's going to be very testing. Yeah, it is. We'll have to just wait and see what people... Hopefully everyone gets the result. We'll have to wait and see what people will do. We'll have to wait and see what people will do. Hopefully everyone gets the result that they want. I don't know whether you can, because there'll be people who want different things. Ideally, it'll be on a dam or a cave, and you'll get it back up and running in a few weeks, and you can then just finish the season quickly. We've just discussed this, there's a hell of a lot to be discussed, and there's so many other things that it knocks on to by delaying it by three or four weeks, and everything else that I don't envy of ever making the decisions. Maybe we'll rally it, we always do, Britain always rally it back. Oh, yeah, yeah. No, I just mean I mean that people who are making the decisions, it's so fun, isn't it? Well, there you go. We've had a good chat about it, and there's still none about it, really. Everyone will feel nice with everything they're playing, everyone will feel more happy and jealous. People will just be less stressed. Exactly. I don't tell you the future, but there you go. There's nothing else to be stressed about. No, on that note. It's not adding to it, that's the one thing. It's not getting beat tonight, plus coronavirus. Bad mix that cocktail rolls off. Bad mix, bad mix. Let us know what you think in the comments section below. Let us know what you would do. Is it a case of just null and void, and if it doesn't like we've said it, it does knock on to other things. So I would, what's the best solution? I think you've got to get 99% null and void, because we know what that means. No, but even if null and void might still be that, you just go to live if you want it. If you want to win it, but like you said, what do you do with that? You can get given the title wouldn't you really, because then there's still that small thing you can see. Yeah, we give it, we didn't finish it and win it. They just said she still could have won it. No, what I just mean in general, regardless like you said the rules winning the league. Doesn't matter. What would you do with everything else? It's so difficult to combat, isn't it, to kind of like come up with a way that everyone goes, yeah, that's the right thing to do. Other than play the games, isn't it? Yeah. And I don't know how you're going to play the games. Let us know in the comments section below. But the thing about it, just very quickly, all the people we work for, is it wider? Yeah. They might hope you isolated. And they need them to do their jobs. Well, yeah, the Russian athletics team needs to test them. Doesn't it really plays in Liverpool? Yeah, Russian athletics. They're over there. I'm checking this everyone. They're over there. They haven't stopped in Russia. Now they're right, you can still watch the Russian League. They don't believe in it. Don't want to. It's weakness. No, buton said doesn't exist. It doesn't exist to me. So, man. There you go. This distance will be removed. There you go. Let us, like you said, let us know in the comments below. Make sure you give the video a thumbs up. Subscribe if you haven't already. And if you want more videos, join us on Patreon. Stay safe. See you later.