 Good afternoon sir, Myself Darshna Shah representing Father Agnal Bandra. Actually 50-60% Bhati Ma'am has already taken. So I will be just, syllabus is same, everything is same. Actually we have four streams, one is computer, IT, electronics and production and according to that for first year we have 210 students and we have evaluation pattern as the same what we Bhati Ma'am has explained. Now only point we want to stress here is for CP1 university has given us the number of lectures to be taken for that topic. So we have to stick to that, like if some topic is like the structured programming using C++ is there. So they are asking for five lectures. So even if you can take six, seven you have to stick like you should not go beyond that. So that is the they have given like that and there is no prerequisite for this topic because because this is the first time students are going through a programming language. The only difficult part here is in the previous year when syllabus was changed in that case Unix and C was there but now it is understood that they know C language and then they are being taught C++ language. So that is the one difficulty what we feel initially. It is not assumed we have to teach C++ with respect to C language because in there we have taught them C language and then next semester we have taught them C++ that is when syllabus was not changed. It is C++ only C++ part is how you take the input and how you do the output. That is the only part which has been included from the C part, rest of the thing is C++. So basically when we think of C++ it is object oriented so we directly start from classes and objects but here we have to take C++ with respect to C language. So that is the main difficulty with the syllabus but everything is given in the syllabus pattern wise. Now this is the syllabus these are the recommended books for C++. Now this is syllabus for CP2, this is second semester Java, CP2 then we call it CP2. Sorry. Let us restrict ourselves to CP1 but I guess that in most of the cases you would have a subsequent force in objects again with programming or Java or something like that. So maybe one more subject portal separately is for object oriented programming. One is completely programming language and another is object oriented. We have one dedicated lab for specially for first year students which has 40 computers. So at one time 40 people that is 2 batch can be accommodated in that lab and that is specially from morning 9 o'clock to 5.30 that lab is open for specially first year no other students are allowed in that lab. So they take their printout they can practice whenever they get time and that lab is dedicated for that. So and we have different types of operating system, we have five servers one different operating system what we have is sun operating system, Linux operating system, Windows and basically we make them use all the operating system so that they get the knowledge of using all the operating system. But for the first year we give them UNIX only because that is the first operating system they get used to. And later on after second when they go to second year they switch to Windows. Then we have for the teaching techniques we have four overhead projectors and one LCD projector. LCD projector is for the department and overhead projector each department one overhead projector is there four we each department is one and we have one department 60 intake is there. So that can be managed. So the classes are real department wise. Yeah, yeah, yeah right. And the teacher can have access to the OHP department in each class. But people from other department can access the OHP of other department there is no that way. So but mostly your teachers prefer that or they prefer back, back, forward and forward. Both actually. Those who are taking more of theory they take slides because theory has to be explained. So then and those who are taking programing and mathematical they do the blackboard one. And in lab we have whiteboard. Second thing is in the practical for first year we have 20 programs to be performed. Now this is the list of experiments for CP1 that you can check. Starting is initially we take we start doing what they know from the mathematics like finding roots of a quadratic equation. So they convert that logic of finding roots of quadratic equation to programming language. So we start. So and in each program something new they have to do from the previous program. So that is a strategy. This list is prepared ahead and it is available to everyone. Yes sir. And one more flexibility here is if I am taking CP1 and another faculty is taking. In this line only they can change the topic like if they want series if Fibonasi series I want Fibonasi series but he wants some other series they can change it. So there is no specific rule like that. That flexibility is there. So and generally instead of 20 we make them do 25 because that is these are very small programs. So 25 they attach for the journal but in the Mumbai University it is specified that they have to do 20 programs. Then they have to submit a lab journal. They have to attach the printouts with a write up and write up is generally algorithm because they first time writing the algorithms and when they switch to classes and objects they do not have to write down the algorithm because algorithm is for the procedural language. So we switch to drawing the class diagrams and object diagrams for that like that. But that is CP2. No sir. Here only. Initial part we do not want any. Yes sir. Yeah. Algorithm for first 5, 6 programs and then we switch to class and object diagrams. We do not need any lab runs from morning till evening. Yeah 9. How many teachers participate in teaching is course 1 for a batch. 4 people. 4 stream 4 people. 4 stream 4 people. Yeah. And how about who conducts the lab? Teacher only. Yeah. That is 20. One batch of 60 is divided into 20-20. So 3 batches are there. So 20. No 21 in a week he will be conducting 3 labs. At different times. 3 labs. Yeah. Yeah. So teaching mode is that those 3 or 4 lectures whatever was actually 3 labs not 1 lab. 3 labs. So 6 that and 3 hours lecture. Then we have 2 tests in one semester and we take average of that. Same. That is same. Same. And this is the. Yeah everything is same. This is list of CP2 programs. The complexity increases from start to end. And second thing is. Second semester. Yeah. Second semester. That is Java. So initial 4-5 programs are related to C++. They have to just convert those first 5 programs from CP1 to CP2 so that they will understand how the conversion can happen. But one thing worries me is that if I look at the list of experiments both yours and what is there. They are different problems that we solve. Yeah. But every time the emphasis comes out is on C or C++. Yeah. So that means the programming language is more important than the problems which are being solved. Yeah. Is that generally true? Yes. Yeah. That is the pedagogical issue that we would like to sort of turn on its head if possible. Thank you. Yeah. Any special thing in the father-in-law that you would like to tell us about? Specific. Anything which is different or generally are all defined to follow the study? Yeah. We have to follow the Mumbai University. No. No. What happened? No. Only we have to consider as 40% as a theory paper and theory and 60% as a practical comes in the paper. 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